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Warrior Forum: Can I please pay you MORE?

by Mac the Knife
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To the powers that be at Warrior Forum-lately, the Warriors for Hire section is feeling like the community swimming pool in July...at noon...on free ice cream day...IT'S FREAKIN CROWDED!

It used to be that my ad would be within the first two pages for up to a month (this is after bumping by posting was discontinued) Then, it would take about 2-3 weeks to fall off second page...NOW, it seems that everyone and his internet marketing MOTHER is buying the $20 ads and my ad is on page 3 with 6 or 7 days! My suggestion is simple...CHARGE ME MORE!

I have seen NUMEROUS listings hit Warriors for Hire created by folks who just disappear-either no one uses their services, they get bad reviews quickly, or they just post and ad and roll...those of us who have been posting and paying for years get left holding the proverbial Warriors for Hire bucket...I am suggesting the price go up to post there, thereby discouraging some of the lesser serious folks-if the charge were $30 or $40, it might make some think twice, ESPECIALLY those who never will even recoup that amount.

I am a committed Warrior and my services are strong, but I want to be sure the playing field is fair for those that really serve the community well.

Thanks for listening-

Mac the Knife
#forum #pay #warrior
  • Profile picture of the author CurtisN
    I would definitely support raising the price there even though I don't visit that section much. I'd also want to see a little fee for posting in the JV section.

    It seems like at least half the threads there are started by people who are trying to sell solo ads. I don't understand why none of them are being deleted...it's the joint venture section, not the WSOs or Classifieds!
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberSorcerer
    This is one of the reasons I don't use it. I have noticed that myself and I don't really want to pay $20 for a one day, maybe two, viewing of my hire ad.

    Just saying!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    Originally Posted by Macurdy View Post

    I am a committed Warrior and my services are strong, but I want to be sure the playing field is fair for those that really serve the community well.
    Is it unfair to you? No.

    You still have the same exact opportunity that everyone has. You can't really complain about something becoming crowded. Deal with it. Make your product/business SO GOOD that people say, "WOW I just loved Mac the Knife's product". You only need one customer that gets the ball rolling for your business.

    How do you know that someone isn't going to start a million dollar business after posting a $20 classified ad? Maybe that person can't afford the $40 or whatever you are proposing.

    Is it crowded? Possibly.

    Is it unfair? Absolutely Not.


    EDIT: Apparently I am the only one with this opinion
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    • Profile picture of the author Mac the Knife
      Mike,

      Totally appreciate your feedback and I dig it. Perhaps "unfair" doesn't totally due my opinion justice...but in raising the prices, I believe the Warriors for Hire section will provide a much better value for all those interested...those who are LOOKING for services want to deal with quality, reputable people...anytime the entry point is TOO low, it definitely can dirty the playing field with less than quality players...trust me, I make QUITE a bit of money just from this one section alone...no one is a bigger fan of WF than me...:-)
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberSorcerer
      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      Is it crowded? Possibly.

      Is it unfair? Absolutely Not.


      EDIT: Apparently I am the only one with this opinion
      To me, it's not about being fair or not. I want my money to work as hard as I do and if my 'hire ad' is going to be gone from the first page before 24 hours are up then that's fair to me.

      I'm just not going to purchase the service that's all. That's why it's fair to me, because, my $20 can provide much more work for my elsewhere.

      Just being truthful, and only my opinion.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
        Originally Posted by Macurdy View Post

        Totally appreciate your feedback and I dig it. Perhaps "unfair" doesn't totally due my opinion justice...but in raising the prices, I believe the Warriors for Hire section will provide a much better value for all those interested...those who are LOOKING for services want to deal with quality, reputable people...anytime the entry point is TOO low, it definitely can dirty the playing field with less than quality players...trust me, I make QUITE a bit of money just from this one section alone...no one is a bigger fan of WF than me...:-)
        I too enjoy using the Warrior Forum Classified Ads Section. And everyone knows more customers are better (in most cases :p). I can see a case being made for both arguments. However, I hate people that are on the fence, so I have to pick a side. And I say that the prices should remain the same

        Originally Posted by CyberSorcerer View Post

        To me, it's not about being fair or not. I want my money to work as hard as I do and if my 'hire ad' is going to be gone from the first page before 24 hours are up then that's fair to me.
        Originally Posted by CyberSorcerer View Post

        I'm just not going to purchase the service that's all. That's why it's fair to me, because, my $20 can provide much more work for my elsewhere.

        Just being truthful, and only my opinion.
        I could always pull out the "it's not a right, it's a privilege" argument. Oh wait, I just did
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    • Profile picture of the author TBInternetMarketing
      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      Is it unfair to you? No.

      You still have the same exact opportunity that everyone has. You can't really complain about something becoming crowded. Deal with it. Make your product/business SO GOOD that people say, "WOW I just loved Mac the Knife's product". You only need one customer that gets the ball rolling for your business.

      How do you know that someone isn't going to start a million dollar business after posting a $20 classified ad? Maybe that person can't afford the $40 or whatever you are proposing.

      Is it crowded? Possibly.

      Is it unfair? Absolutely Not.


      EDIT: Apparently I am the only one with this opinion
      Kinda agree with Mike here.
      Have you thought about posting a new ad maybe a few days later? I.e 2 x$20 ads for the price of $40. This will allow you to change up your copy as well.

      I know it's not quite the same, but if you're willing to spend $40, you could still do that and get another ad out of it.

      Just a thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremiah Walsh
    This is simply the nature of competition. New people want to get thier name out there and are willing to offer discounted rates just to get known with the intention of charging more on the backend.

    The best way is not to raise the price... it is to raise the value of that you are offering and always ask for refferals. I have won many deals in sales with the higher price because I was offering more value.

    The more value you offer... the more invaluable you become.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Originally Posted by Macurdy View Post


    I am a committed Warrior and my services are strong, but I want to be sure the playing field is fair for those that really serve the community well.
    I hear what you are saying in your post and raising prices can certainly weed out some of the competition, but to say that you want it to be fair for those that serve the community well is no different than saying you want it to be unfair to those that don't. Jus sayin
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    I must admit that I am in favor of the for hire sections staying below the cost of the WSO section.

    WSO's are downloadable files; do it once, and watch the money come in.

    The for hire section is for services, so you may get paid soon, but that work needs to be done.

    OP you said yourself, you are still making money from a $20 ad placement. The number of days that your ad is taking to move down also should mean more traffic, thus more eyes on the offer in a quicker time.

    Not being argumentative I just am very happy with the results in the WFH section, and I believe upping the price will only dissuade people for a short while. Then it will be back to what it is now.
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  • Profile picture of the author wanna-succeed
    I don't think it would be wise to raise the price.
    It is a work section, and some people don't have a lot of money but try to get recognition through writing or some other skill. Charing more will make things harder for a lot of people.
    One thing that could make sense would be to raise the price, but allow 1 free thread bump whenever the author chooses.
    Just my 2 cents...

    P.S Doesn't this thread belong in the test forum? Or suggestions?
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    Macurdy,

    I can't say I have noticed a difference, myself. I ran an advert in there not long ago and got more work than I could do, and even had to turn people away.

    Did you change your advert in any way? Maybe that is the problem?

    As to raising the prices, it wouldn't help in any case.

    For a very short time after the WSO prices went up, the quality of the average WSO went up to an equal degree. Unfortunately, it also fell again after only a week or two.

    Would it be worth repeating this experiment? Yes for a week, but then all that would be different is that we would be paying more for each bump.

    The community is growing and that always causes a shift in the marketplace. You will either have to grow with it, or go under. If you have been around for awhile then you aught to have built up a client base, and if not then I recommend shifting your tactics.

    One of the main keys to client retention is being human. Honestly, the little personal things that you mention to your clients; they are the things that humanize you, and break down that invisible shield of indifference we call the computer screen.

    Cheers,
    Colin Palfrey
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