The Illiterati Conspiracy

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Sometimes I'm amazed. Others, just amused.

So, Clickbank was doing maintenance, and people couldn't log in. We had not 1, not 2, not even 3, but 4 separate threads about it on the front page, all at the same time. And then someone else started a thread telling everyone that it was working again.

We've had at least 5 threads in the past few days on the JC Penny/Google article from the NYT. All posted in main discussion, where they don't belong.

Folks, when something big is happening, the odds are good you're not the only one to notice. Yes, tell us about it. But look to see if someone else hasn't already done so, please?

And if your post is deleted when you're delivering big news, check to see if it wasn't a duplicate before you post a complaint?

Thank you for your time. We now return you to your regularly scheduled mayhem.


Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled mayhem.
    Thank you :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Hey Paul, I can't log into Clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Thomas,

    How's your log-in for here working?

    Chris,

    Adding them to a sticky probably won't make much difference. If people don't care enough about getting the right answers to post where people hang out who can actually help them, why would they mind being the 5th person to post the same thing?

    Not even 1% of the members will ever see this. It doesn't take a lot of people reminding folks for it to spread, though.


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    • Maybe throw a banner into the paid banner rotator with something like "yeah we know today happened XYZ. Use the search function because at least one other person started a thread about it". Though I guess the ROI wouldn't be great
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

    And if your post is deleted when you're delivering big news, check to see if it wasn't a duplicate before you post a complaint?

    Paul
    Ummm, I thought that we weren't to post complaints about threads getting deleted?

    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Michael,
      Ummm, I thought that we weren't to post complaints about threads getting deleted?
      We're not. I'm sort of hoping this will help keep a few people from repeating easily avoided mistakes.

      What can I say? I'm an optimist...


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  • Profile picture of the author Monta
    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

    Sometimes I'm amazed. Others, just amused.

    So, Clickbank was doing maintenance, and people couldn't log in. We had not 1, not 2, not even 3, but 4 separate threads about it on the front page, all at the same time. And then someone else started a thread telling everyone that it was working again.

    We've had at least 5 threads in the past few days on the JC Penny/Google article from the NYT. All posted in main discussion, where they don't belong.

    Folks, when something big is happening, the odds are good you're not the only one to notice. Yes, tell us about it. But look to see if someone else hasn't already done so, please?

    And if your post is deleted when you're delivering big news, check to see if it wasn't a duplicate before you post a complaint?

    Thank you for your time. We now return you to your regularly scheduled mayhem.


    Paul
    Thanks Paul.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Here's a tip that might be helpful. It works in at least Firefox and Internet Explorer.

      If you want to find a specific string of text on a web page, hold down the Control key and tap the letter F. A search gadget will open. Type in the text you're looking for and hit return. It will take you to the first appearance of that text in the page. You can click on "Next" to find the second and succeeding places it's used.

      Makes things easier than scrolling and trying to read every thread title.


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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Bill,

        More than 8 years, dude. Closer to 13.

        The presence of some things may not change, but the frequency can. New members will always make "new guy" mistakes. If we get enough of the more experienced members politely reminding them of why some things aren't optimal, the overall incidence of such things will drop, at least as a percentage of posts.

        Yes, that does happen. You just have to have a little patience and keep reminding folks until it sticks.


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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          If we get enough of the more experienced members politely reminding them of why some things aren't optimal, the overall incidence of such things will drop, at least as a percentage of posts.

          Yes, that does happen. You just have to have a little patience and keep reminding folks until it sticks.


          Paul

          But that makes us big meanies, who are playing favorites in the community!!

          It is after all a grand conspiracy where you and I are pulling the puppet strings!!

          And paying our minions to hassle these poor folks...

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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Doesn't this belong in the off the wall forum?
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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              Paul,
              Doesn't this belong in the off the wall forum?
              Not until you showed up...


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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Here's a tip that might be helpful. It works in at least Firefox and Internet Explorer.

        If you want to find a specific string of text on a web page, hold down the Control key and tap the letter F. A search gadget will open. Type in the text you're looking for and hit return. It will take you to the first appearance of that text in the page. You can click on "Next" to find the second and succeeding places it's used.

        Makes things easier than scrolling and trying to read every thread title.


        Paul
        I have been using Google Chrome a lot more recently, and I can confirm that the search function also works the exact same way with it.

        I agree that it's getting more than a little tiresome to see duplicate threads trumpeting the same headlines/news repeatedly. Let's hope people become more conscientious when deciding to post the latest news, and spare us the incessant redundancy.
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        • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Here's a tip that might be helpful. It works in at least Firefox and Internet Explorer.

          If you want to find a specific string of text on a web page, hold down the Control key and tap the letter F. A search gadget will open.
          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          I have been using Google Chrome a lot more recently, and I can confirm that the search function also works the exact same way with it.
          Add Opera, too. It also knows the trick.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Yeah, yeah.... Whatever...

    I did see the 5 other threads on that topic, but this news is IMPORTANT...

    And that other guy shared the news in a way that forgot an important detail I wanted to include...

    And besides... I am not posting for the betterment of the community, but for the betterment of me!!



    jk



    And Paul... You have been here for almost 8 years...

    This type of thing has been happening since the beginning of time...

    I can go for the optimistic outlook, but some things will never change....

    Haven't you realized that yet?
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  • Profile picture of the author markbyrne
    Just to let you know, I found this post so useful, I've copied and pasted it in all the main forum areas, to make sure everyone gets the message.

    Including the paid ones.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Mark,
      Including the paid ones.
      Ya know, I was mildly concerned that you might be serious, right up until that line.


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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    That reminds me...

    Is the Warrior Forum loading slowly for anybody else, I'm having problems with PayPal, how do you convert a Word docment to PDF and are you sick of the "gurus" actually trying to sell you stuff?

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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      That reminds me...

      Is the Warrior Forum loading slowly for anybody else,
      As a matter of fact, yes.

      I'm having problems with PayPal,
      No problems here.

      how do you convert a Word docment to PDF
      Why are you still using Word?

      and are you sick of the "gurus" actually trying to sell you stuff?
      Real gurus live in caves and don't try to sell me anything except peace of mind, which doesn't cost a cent.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        As a matter of fact, yes.
        Me too.


        No problems here.
        Same here.


        Why are you still using Word?
        I never have, I use Open Office, but wanted to be prepared should the urge ever strike.


        Real gurus live in caves and don't try to sell me anything except peace of mind, which doesn't cost a cent.
        True, but the climb is brutal.

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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          ... and what ever happened to Little Nell?
          Sorry but... SPOILER ALERT!... She died. Her grandfather wouldn't accept it, though. But then he died and was buried next to her. Tragic.

          Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

          True, but the climb is brutal.
          One word: helicopter.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Is the Warrior Forum loading slowly for anybody else, I'm having problems with PayPal, how do you convert a Word docment to PDF and are you sick of the "gurus" actually trying to sell you stuff?
      ... and what ever happened to Little Nell?
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    It will never stop Paul, it will never stop!
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Adam,

    I don't expect it to stop. I just hope it won't be the same people doing it next month, along with all the new folks who don't know any better yet.


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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Well, this might help with literacy - amazon now sells more e-books than books. Hope they lower prices. I mean think of all the money they save on paper.

    That said, I post stories and they get buried to the bottom of the sea. However, then the same exact story is posted by a power user. Well, guess what the same story gets a lot of comments from viewers.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by seobro View Post

      That said, I post stories and they get buried to the bottom of the sea. However, then the same exact story is posted by a power user. Well, guess what the same story gets a lot of comments from viewers.

      That is not always the case.

      If you construct your stories the way you are supposed to construct them, they are buried quickly.

      But if you utilize "creative story telling" techniques, then you can stay on top for days.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    As the thread has started to slide anyway, can everybody see the irony of the little button that points out Thomas is invisible. That is hilarious!

    I wondered why the little light that is normally green was red, so hovered my cursor over it. It says "Thomas Belknap is invisible". That is about as useful as a paper bag with "Umbrella" written on it! LOL

    Cheers,
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      Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey View Post

      As the thread has started to slide anyway, can everybody see the irony of the little button that points out Thomas is invisible. That is hilarious!

      I wondered why the little light that is normally green was red, so hovered my cursor over it. It says "Thomas Belknap is invisible". That is about as useful as a paper bag with "Umbrella" written on it! LOL

      Cheers,
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      Damn... I have been walking all over town thinking no one can see me. I better hold off on the bank job I had planned.
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    Problem could be, partly, solved with a plugin.

    -G
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    • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
      Good post. I agree. In the end though it all comes down to how heavily the moderators swing the club and set the standard.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi,

      Do you people prefer Aweber or GetResponse? I've just bought a list of 5000000 red hot buyers for $5 and I'm really excited about early retirement. Is this the right section? Any of you dudes want to JV?
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi,

        Do you people prefer Aweber or GetResponse? I've just bought a list of 5000000 red hot buyers for $5 and I'm really excited about early retirement. Is this the right section? Any of you dudes want to JV?
        Yeah man, I'm in but I've a question.

        I just made a blog, when will it start earning money and how much will I make?
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        • Profile picture of the author ExRat
          Hi RV,

          when will it start earning money and how much will I make?
          A piece of string is sixteen and three-quarter inches long.

          {ethical bump}
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

            Hi RV,

            A piece of string is sixteen and three-quarter inches long.

            {ethical bump}
            But Clickbank is down and my shoelace is slightly longer than that.

            Ok, I'm going to bed.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Do you people prefer Aweber or GetResponse? I've just bought a list of 5000000 red hot buyers for $5 and I'm really excited about early retirement. Is this the right section? Any of you dudes want to JV?

        Roger,

        You need to go here...5000000 red hot buyers for $5

        It the only place I've ever heard about it...

        ~Bill

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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

      Problem could be, partly, solved with a plugin.

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      But first make sure there is some meat in the burrito.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        But first make sure there is some meat in the burrito.
        Gotcha covered.


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        Want fries with that?
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    This is yet another off topic thread polluting the forum. Why hasn't anyone banned this Paul Myers character yet?


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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      And paying our minions to hassle these poor folks...

      Guys, I hate to be a pest (most of the time, anyway), but the 'hassle the poor folks' check is late - again...:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Guys, I hate to be a pest (most of the time, anyway), but the 'hassle the poor folks' check is late - again...:rolleyes:
        John,

        They must have mailed your check to me.

        Here, sorry about your wait.



        Have a Great Day!
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  • Profile picture of the author WikiWarrior
    How about a duplicate content popup for recent thread titles. Doesn't Squidoo have something like this where you try to make a new lense and the popup says "Whoa there cowboy! Looks like someone might have beaten you to the punch." Then you could add "Are you sure there isn't a recent thread created on this already?"
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      How about a duplicate content popup for recent thread titles.
      Is there such a thing for vBulletin?

      Might slow things down more than the act of cleaning up the excess copies. That's always something to consider in a site that gets this many visitors. But it'd be an interesting thing to check out.


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      • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Is there such a thing for vBulletin?

        Might slow things down more than the act of cleaning up the excess copies. That's always something to consider in a site that gets this many visitors. But it'd be an interesting thing to check out.


        Paul
        Yes. It works by checking topics before a new topic is allowed.

        I keep suggesting it. Maybe one day... :p

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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Here's a tip that might also be helpful. It works in at least Firefox and Internet Explorer.

            If you want to find a specific string of text on a web page, hold down the Control key and tap the letter F. A search gadget will open. Type in the text you're looking for and hit return. It will take you to the first appearance of that text in the page. You can click on "Next" to find the second and succeeding places it's used.

            Makes things easier than scrolling and trying to read every thread title.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Why would ANYONE be concerned about clickbank going down!?!?!? They're BIG! The KNOW better! They're PERFECT! They CAN'T GO DOWN, etc....

    OBVIOUSLY, it's a CONSPIRACY to make more money!

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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      We didn't mean to wake you up, Steve.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        We didn't mean to wake you up, Steve.
        What do you mean, "wake me up"?
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          What do you mean, "wake me up"?
          Michael Rings the Bell and runs furiously through the WF........

          Have a Great Day!
          Michael


          PS. Yes, I know I did Wrong... Sorry! two, too many i guess?
          It's been a great night other than that!
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertHands
    I agree making it a sticky probably won't help. If you give people the benefit of the doubt, we could assume they are just *so* tremendously excited about some piece of news they've just read/heard they can't possibly resist posting it up... neglecting to check or search first.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    I have an idea... I've heard that certain browsers... IE, Firefox, Chrome
    have some little thingy where you press a couple of keys and some kind
    of search widget pops up that lets you find stuff...

    Anyone know how that works?

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