Hi, I'm New - Where Do I Start?!

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Hey guys and girls,

I'm Tom Church and I'm new here (and to internet marketing). Essentially, I'd like to ask you, where do I begin?

By this I mean both within this forum (it's so quickly updated!) and for my website.

How I became interested in Marketing
I work in a pub, and just over 2 weeks ago, a regular customer told me he was a marketer. I began questioning him, and became quite interested. Going home that evening, I searched online around the concept of marketing, and was surprised to find a whole lot of jargon and boring text that didn't make the 'subject' interesting nor exciting at all.

And then it hit me (the idea that is): Make a website that makes marketing fun, free and easy for people like me. The next day I bought my domain, made a wordpress website and began developing content.

Nearly 3 weeks later...
With over 40 posts, and a decent looking website, I finally came across Warrior Forums, about 2 days ago now and really don't know where to begin. There's so much here, but I can't make sense of some of it as a beginner. Please could you help me?

I'm not that much of an amateur now...
SEO, affiliate, backlinks, page ranks, bookmarking, directories, pings, RSS feeds, twitter...I know what all this stuff is, and I use them. But what next? It seems I've just skimmed the surface, do you guys have any tools that you use?

Skeptical about buying products...
I'm a bit scared to buy marketing products. There's so many annoying webpages that are really long trying to blag something to me that it just screams, "This is a scam!!" Well, is it?

Thank you so much in advance for helping me out, I'm not sure whether I'm allowed to create a link to my site (forum rules?) but it's "flabble.net"

Hope this post finds you in good spirits,
Your 18 year old English marketer,
Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    Originally Posted by Tom Church View Post

    Hey guys and girls,


    I'm not that much of an amateur now...
    SEO, affiliate, backlinks, page ranks, bookmarking, directories, pings, RSS feeds, twitter...I know what all this stuff is, and I use them. But what next? It seems I've just skimmed the surface, do you guys have any tools that you use?

    Tom
    Ok...

    First thing is to understand that YES you are new and that NO you dont know what all this 'stuff' is. Im not trying to be rude or sound like im a pro. But coming from a teacher/student background i understand that the biggest mistake any newbie in any field aross the planet can make is to say he/she understands...

    If you knew all this 'stuff' you wouldnt be here now. Saying you is like pulling a veil across your eyes, your subconciosly saying you dont need to learn any more because you know everything.

    Trust me there are some people here that make hundreds and thousands of dollars just from some of the things you described.

    So that would be my first suggestion.

    Second would be to hang around this part of the woods and soak up as much information as you can.

    Third would be, not to jump in head first into the first biz-op you find. Trust me there is no rush. Hang around buy as many ebooks as you can afford, sign up to free newsletters, read as much as you can, look into the lives of the mega filthy rich internet marketers and never stop learning.

    Then when you come to the point where you can clearly explain to a newbie what internet mareking is. Then i would say its time to look for your nich and build your markeing strategy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hesaidblissfully
      Originally Posted by GoinDeep View Post

      Third would be, not to jump in head first into the first biz-op you find. Trust me there is no rush. Hang around buy as many ebooks as you can afford, sign up to free newsletters, read as much as you can, look into the lives of the mega filthy rich internet marketers and never stop learning.
      I started to say I disagree with this, since a lot of times buying lots of info products just gives people information overload. But then I reread that he wants to teach people about marketing on the internet.

      Even so, rather than buying lots of books, I'd say to start with what your audience would want to know, and then researching the answers and answering their questions in a tutorial format. You can start by looking around forums like this and looking at some of the basic questions that come up, such as "how do I get traffic to my website". Then you could do a series on different ways to get traffic to a website, such as Pay Per Click, SEO, article marketing, etc. Once you have a steady readership, you could also survey them to find out what specific questions they have.

      So basically start by asking what questions do people want to know about marketing online, then just educate yourself about those topics and answer them on your site.

      Hope that helps!
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      • Profile picture of the author tiger325
        well you found the right place to get help..I would advise to find the group that buys and give them the product that they need..thats the first start
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Church
    GoinDeep, thank you for telling me the truth. I appreciate it, I guess I was being quite naive to suggest I understood those things. Hmm indeed this will be a long journey. Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Hoffman
    The best advice I can give you is to become friends with your fellow marketers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Easy Cash
    How are you monetizing your site? Through adds?

    You have chosen a difficult area - IM.

    There is so much competition.

    To make it work - figure out what your main source of income is going to be and then get lots of relevant traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author WasabiHound
    Hi Tom
    Im a newbie too. Totally agree with GoinDeep. Hang round this forum and read and ask. Check out the threads in the discussion group on this Forum on mind and success (sorry forget the exact name but it's easy to spot). Being mentally ready is as critical as being technically ready. There will be hiccups and bumps on the cyber highway

    Check out the Google help desk and blogs too. This will probably be your main business environment and there are some good ideas and current tips on there including stuff about Adsense and Adwords if you decide to use them.

    Ask. Read online or offline (books I am reading The Search by John Battelle at the moment all about Google, I have also read Seth Godin's Meatball Sundae - not everyone's cup of tea but an interesting perspective) If you have the resources consider doing a course or a program.

    Only other thought is no matter what business model you follow make sure your record and measure.

    Great question and all the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Church
    Hi guys, thank you so much for taking the time to reply.

    Sandy - I've downloaded the eBook and reading it now. Seems good so far.
    WasabiHound - I'll probably be PM'ing you soon, as it'd be good to become acquainted with some fellow newbies if you wouldn't mind?
    EasyCash - I'm not looking to make money yet. All I want to do is learn about marketing (both online and offline) and share it with others through a high value, content rich website. Currently, I'm looking to market my website so that when people need it, they can find it.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Henderson
    Tom, go to Tony Shepherd's website -- Tony Shepherd’s Blog -- click on the tab marked "Free" and download Tony's "Blog Your Wage" eBook.

    I learned so much from it, I still can't believe that Tony is giving such great information away for nothing. Get a hold of a copy, it is well worth your time....
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  • Profile picture of the author Graham Maddison
    Hi Tom,

    I am a member of the PPG - a group of mentors that offer step by step tuition ..there is a review on my blog if you would care to read it. What's interesting though and this might benefit you, one of the mentors is about to take us step by step setting up a wordpress blog and monetizing with an expected minimum return of $1000 per month ....this is due to start on the release of wordpress 2.7 which is iminent.

    I hope this helps.

    Graham
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Welcome, Tom.

    Why can't more beginners be like you? Well done on your introductory post.

    Here's what I would do...
    • Familiarize yourself with the forum rules
    • Search the archives for any questions you may have
    • If you're still unclear, ask for clarity
    • Pay attention, interact, and get to know some folks
    • Never be afraid to ask questions
    • Find a mentor if that interests you
    • Don't feel pressured to buy things (other than the thing I'm about to mention)
    • PAY FOR ACCESS TO THE PRIVATE "WAR ROOM" FORUM!!! (<---not an affiliate link)
    Again, welcome.


    Originally Posted by Tom Church View Post

    Hey guys and girls,

    I'm Tom Church and I'm new here (and to internet marketing). Essentially, I'd like to ask you, where do I begin?

    By this I mean both within this forum (it's so quickly updated!) and for my website.

    How I became interested in Marketing
    I work in a pub, and just over 2 weeks ago, a regular customer told me he was a marketer. I began questioning him, and became quite interested. Going home that evening, I searched online around the concept of marketing, and was surprised to find a whole lot of jargon and boring text that didn't make the 'subject' interesting nor exciting at all.

    And then it hit me (the idea that is): Make a website that makes marketing fun, free and easy for people like me. The next day I bought my domain, made a wordpress website and began developing content.

    Nearly 3 weeks later...
    With over 40 posts, and a decent looking website, I finally came across Warrior Forums, about 2 days ago now and really don't know where to begin. There's so much here, but I can't make sense of some of it as a beginner. Please could you help me?

    I'm not that much of an amateur now...
    SEO, affiliate, backlinks, page ranks, bookmarking, directories, pings, RSS feeds, twitter...I know what all this stuff is, and I use them. But what next? It seems I've just skimmed the surface, do you guys have any tools that you use?

    Skeptical about buying products...
    I'm a bit scared to buy marketing products. There's so many annoying webpages that are really long trying to blag something to me that it just screams, "This is a scam!!" Well, is it?

    Thank you so much in advance for helping me out, I'm not sure whether I'm allowed to create a link to my site (forum rules?) but it's "flabble.net"

    Hope this post finds you in good spirits,
    Your 18 year old English marketer,
    Tom
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    "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want."
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  • Profile picture of the author napoleonfirst
    Pay $40 to Amy Bass for coaching at Thenicheblogger.com.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Church
    Thank you so much for all your advice! I'm taking it all on board, reading a lot (isn't there so much!) and just trying things out.

    Just to give you all an update...
    • I'm currently receiving on average 20 readers a day. Not great, but I'm very happy as it's better than 19 or less! I am trying to focus on making these readers that I do have, as satisfied as possible with the website.
    • By this I mean interacting with them by comments, emailing them personally, adding them on Facebook and Twitter. I'm constantly (but not too much!) asking them how I could improve Flabble.net, what they liked, what they didn't like...
    • Most say it's very professional looking, but quite rigid. My posts sometimes are too long, and could be shortened into several, smaller posts.
    • I'm building backlinks by personally asking people. It's a slow but steady process.
    • Combined with this, I'm teaming up with Photographers, designers, models and other marketers to try and help give more quality advice (all of which is free).
    • There is still no financial aspect involved within my website, and there won't be for quite some time. I just want to give as much value as possible.
    The Future
    Once (/if) I start earning from Flabble.net, I'll reinvest every cent. I intend to buy products, review them and possibly 'hire' them out for others to try. Obviously I won't make copies, rather I'll just get readers to give me the details they want me to put into the software (for a small price) and I'll do it...This way they can see if it works or not.

    I also want to start interviewing marketing 'gurus', incorporating more videos (especially with the up and coming video search engine blinkx)

    Anyway, thank you once again
    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author Dave Ward
      Hi Tom,

      I am new to this forum, but not to the Internet, it has been my living for over 10 years.

      There is some great advice on here, but here is my 2p .

      I would start with the same thing that has been constant for me through my time online, I did it from day one, and I still do it today. Build a list. Everything you do, everything you post, focus on building you list.
      For example, I went to your blog, it looks great, looks like a template from solostream if I am not mistaken. But you don't have an option for me to join your list. Put the option everywhere, the end of your post about using facebook for example , put an optin option for me at the end of that post. In my opinion list building should be the no1 focus of any Internet Marketer.
      Go and check out aweber.com, read their blog, tutorials etc, and learn about list building. The information is free , but so valuable.
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