This Is NOT Another "Death Of Article Marketing" Thread

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Okay...I thought of doing this survey.

But I have a question to all the successful article marketers here (this is an example of a knowledge thread):
  1. How many articles have you written on a specific niche?
  2. How many URL clicks have you got?
  3. How many of them converted to sales?
  4. How many times your articles been republished? And is it for 1-2 special articles or distributed uniformly throughout your submission?
  5. How long the article took to generate those number of views?
  6. How long was the title of the article?
  7. What was the length of the articles?
  8. How many article directories do you post to?
  9. Do you link back to your articles (may be linkwheel)?
  10. Do you syndicate same blog content or post unique content?
  11. Do you use any other method of marketing?

I will like the newbies to just learn from the masters and don't ruin the thread. Don't distract the thread.

NOTE: I would prefer if you DON'T argue with each other here. Just share your stats. It would be much more conclusive. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author KeNiQ
    Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

    Okay...I thought of doing this survey.

    But I have a question to all the successful article marketers here (this is an example of a knowledge thread):
    1. How many articles have you written on a specific niche?
    2. How many URL clicks have you got?
    3. How many of them converted to sales?
    4. How long the article took to generate those number of views?
    5. How long was the title of the article?
    6. What was the length of the articles?
    7. How many article directories do you post to?
    8. Do you link back to your articles (may be linkwheel)?
    9. Do you syndicate same blog content or post unique content?
    10. Do you use any other method of marketing?

    I will like the newbies to just learn from the masters and don't ruin the thread. Don't distract the thread. Thanks.
    1. 5
    2. 700+
    3. none (lots of adsense clicks though)
    4. 1 month
    5.4-6 words
    7.1
    8. I ping them and backlink them yes (hubpages and blogs)
    9. unique
    10. No
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    • Profile picture of the author schttrj
      Originally Posted by KeNiQ View Post

      1. 5
      2. 700+
      3. none (lots of adsense clicks though)
      4. 1 month
      5.4-6 words
      7.1
      8. I ping them and backlink them yes (hubpages and blogs)
      9. unique
      10. No
      Excellent! Now, we are talking maths. Which article directory? And you backlink from the blogs and Hubpages to the articles right?
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      • Profile picture of the author KeNiQ
        Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

        Excellent! Now, we are talking maths. Which article directory? And you backlink from the blogs and Hubpages to the articles right?
        Ezine Articles

        and yes that's how I backlink
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        • Profile picture of the author schttrj
          Originally Posted by KeNiQ View Post

          Ezine Articles

          and yes that's how I backlink
          Let's wait for others to contribute to this thread now.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

            But I have a question to all the successful article marketers here

            None
            of us who use the syndication model of article marketing will be able to answer your questions as you've asked them, Ron, and nobody will therefore be able to learn from the most successful article marketers here.

            If you'll excuse the observation, this is because you've asked the wrong questions, that don't really apply to us, and don't cover where our sales typically come from. :rolleyes:

            What you're asking about applies more or less to people using article directories for their traffic and backlinks only. As you can see from almost any of the recent "article marketing" discussions here, in many of which you have yourself taken part, many of us don't think that's much of a model of "article marketing" to follow, at all.
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            • Profile picture of the author schttrj
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              None of us who use the syndication model of article marketing will be able to answer your questions as you've asked them, Ron, and nobody will therefore be able to learn from the most successful article marketers here.

              If you'll excuse the observation, this is because you've asked the wrong questions.

              What you're asking about applies more or less to people using article directories for their traffic and backlinks only. As you can see from almost any of the recent "article marketing" discussions here, in many of which you have yourself taken part, many of us don't think that's much of a model of "article marketing" to follow, at all.
              Then, I would ask for your help in formulating the questions for people who only 'syndicate' with article marketing.
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

                Then, I would ask for your help in formulating the questions for people who only 'syndicate' with article marketing.
                The correct questions depend, inevitably, on what you're trying to learn and why.

                You've already explained so many times, recently, that you have no interest in the syndication of articles, and don't believe in it, that that's going to be far from easy for anyone else to predict or to imagine for you. I certainly can't.

                But with respect, what you're doing here, while expressing the desire to learn from "all the successful article marketers here" is actually specifically excluding most of us from your survey!

                Ask the others, by all means, but please let's not pretend that the results, this way, are going to be in any way representative of many of those of us who are making a good living and building substantial businesses with real residual income. :p
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  • I'll focus on one niche that has been successful lately.

    1. 48 articles
    2. 1,264 clicks (of 68,000 hits)
    3. 248 sales (impossible to tell if others later purchased through auto responder, affiliates or other marketing methods)
    4. 1 Month
    5. Atleast 5 words each, some are 10+
    6. Atleast 500-750 words, some 900+
    7. 5 but only ezinearticles consistently
    8. Rarely, but through twitter/facebook when I do
    9. Some were slightly altered posts from my blogs, rest were unique
    10. Yes, TONS. This is but one way to get traffic to a site.
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    • Profile picture of the author schttrj
      Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

      I'll focus on one niche that has been successful lately.

      1. 48 articles
      2. 1,264 clicks (of 68,000 hits)
      3. 248 sales (impossible to tell if others later purchased through auto responder, affiliates or other marketing methods)
      4. 1 Month
      5. Atleast 5 words each, some are 10+
      6. Atleast 500-750 words, some 900+
      7. 5 but only ezinearticles consistently
      8. Rarely, but through twitter/facebook when I do
      9. Some were slightly altered posts from my blogs, rest were unique
      10. Yes, TONS. This is but one way to get traffic to a site.
      By the way, do you include Hubpages and Squidoo into your content marketing strategy?
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  • Profile picture of the author ELK
    With the recent changes from Google, I would think this is an especially precarious time to try building a business with the usual "article back-linking strategy" at the core. Would it not?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by ELK View Post

      With the recent changes from Google, I would think this is an especially precarious time to try building a business with the usual "article back-linking strategy" at the core. Would it not?
      It would indeed.

      Though, to be fair, the overall success-rate from that "model" of article marketing seems to be pretty low, even at the best of times.
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  • Profile picture of the author ELK
    Right - that's what I've been thinking the last several weeks. Tons of work for a rather iffy return, at best. All "the latest" just seems to confirm that more than ever.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      The syndication model has been shown again and again to be far more effective than the one-legged stool of mass article submissions. You really do not need very many quality articles at all to break into even the hottest and most competitive niches. The simple elegance of syndication can indeed be quantified, but not within these consrictions of a misdirected survey.
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      • Profile picture of the author schttrj
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        The correct questions depend, inevitably, on what you're trying to learn and why.

        You've already explained so many times, recently, that you have no interest in the syndication of articles, and don't believe in it, that that's going to be far from easy for anyone else to predict or to imagine for you. I certainly can't.

        But with respect, what you're doing here, while expressing the desire to learn from "all the successful article marketers here" is actually specifically excluding most of us from your survey!

        Ask the others, by all means, but please let's not pretend that the results, this way, are going to be in any way representative of many of those of us who are making a good living and building substantial businesses with real residual income. :p
        Learning keeps going on forever...I am always in the habit of proving myself wrong!

        Unfortunately, I beckoned all the successful article marketers to share their secrets for the newbies. Unfortunately, nobody is willing or maybe doesn't have the proof to take part in this. If you ask me, I will paste mine.

        As you see, "whatever" model of article marketing you are doing, you SHOULD have the stats, don't you think so? Saying that you CAN'T show the stats because you are doing a 'syndication' model of article marketing is just not that credulous.

        If you submit to article directories, you SHOULD have that stats. That's what the above questions ask. If you read carefully, they also ask about the quality of your article and if you maneuver them in any way.

        And do feel free to add any question you like. If you are doing the "syndication" model of article marketing, show how you wrote one article in a week and that converted into 1000 backlinks in a month, from syndication on sites.

        You MUST be having that stats, don't you?

        By the way, if you want mine, here is it.



        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        It would indeed.

        Though, to be fair, the overall success-rate from that "model" of article marketing seems to be pretty low, even at the best of times.
        And very strangely, most of the SUCCESSFUL article marketers there, talk about getting mainly traffic (Josh Spaulding, ethicalim.com) and backlink (Steve Shaw, submityourarticle.com).

        As you already know, I am hard to be convinced...

        Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

        I'll focus on one niche that has been successful lately.

        1. 48 articles
        2. 1,264 clicks (of 68,000 hits)
        3. 248 sales (impossible to tell if others later purchased through auto responder, affiliates or other marketing methods)
        4. 1 Month
        5. Atleast 5 words each, some are 10+
        6. Atleast 500-750 words, some 900+
        7. 5 but only ezinearticles consistently
        8. Rarely, but through twitter/facebook when I do
        9. Some were slightly altered posts from my blogs, rest were unique
        10. Yes, TONS. This is but one way to get traffic to a site.
        Great info, man! I appreciate it.

        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        The syndication model has been shown again and again to be far more effective than the one-legged stool of mass article submissions. You really do not need very many quality articles at all to break into even the hottest and most competitive niches. The simple elegance of syndication can indeed be quantified, but not within these consrictions of a misdirected survey.
        As I already said, just saying ONE article will get on top of the SERPs doesn't prove anything. You are just talking like any other fake sales guru here.

        I guess we are here to contribute and create something better out of what is already existent there.

        And if the MAGIC of syndication can indeed be quantified, can you please share your results with us? Something that's believable and thought-provoking?!
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        • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
          Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

          If you are doing the "syndication" model of article marketing, show how you wrote one article in a week and that converted into 1000 backlinks in a month, from syndication on sites.
          The number of links doesn't matter if the handful of sites (or even that one special one) gives you a rush of traffic from an already established audience. You don't need to rely on organic traffic if you are getting on the right types of sites.

          Find the handful of great sites that syndicate other peoples content over time and you will eventually have a regular third party audience you can approach directly.

          The Article Directories are just the first step in finding that audience...or perhaps I have missed the point completely?
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          • Profile picture of the author schttrj
            Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

            The number of links doesn't matter if the handful of sites (or even that one special one) gives you a rush of traffic from an already established audience. You don't need to rely on organic traffic if you are getting on the right types of sites.

            Find the handful of great sites that syndicate other peoples content over time and you will eventually have a regular third party audience you can approach directly.

            The Article Directories are just the first step in finding that audience...or perhaps I have missed the point completely?
            Nopes, you are right. I will modify the questionnaire a bit. Check the new one.
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        • Profile picture of the author Doug Wakefield
          As you see, "whatever" model of article marketing you are doing, you SHOULD have the stats, don't you think so? Saying that you CAN'T show the stats because you are doing a 'syndication' model of article marketing is just not that credulous.

          If you submit to article directories, you should have that stats. That's the above questions ask. If you read carefully, they also ask about the quality of your article and if you maneuver them in any way.
          She can't give you the stats because the primary return on her model of article marketing comes from other websites that do not have the answers to these questions. Many of the top article marketers use a similar model, making her points valid.

          She has made it a point to mention that her model relies little on EZA beyond a means to help publishers find her content (and possibly find other people to contact directly avoiding EZA.)

          She does plenty of syndication that will never see an article directory, further skewing the stats.

          She has mentioned, countless times, that her CTR is low by some people's standards, but her conversion rate more than makes up for it.

          Her whole plan of action uses the article directories as a means to an end, and not as the whole plan. That is what these stats fail to see. When you aim to primarily use syndication as your article marketing method the directory stats are not important.

          It will become evident in the next few weeks and months as the effects of the Google slap settle in. When your views go down, her views will remain steady.

          I think that is the part you are missing.

          She will put it better than I did, but that is the basic idea.
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          • Profile picture of the author Doug Wakefield
            Troy put it pretty well too.
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          • Profile picture of the author schttrj
            Originally Posted by Doug Wakefield View Post

            She can't give you the stats because the primary return on her model of article marketing comes from other websites that do not have the answers to these questions. Many of the top article marketers use a similar model, making her points valid.

            She has made it a point to mention that her model relies little on EZA beyond a means to help publishers find her content (and possibly find other people to contact directly avoiding EZA.)

            She does plenty of syndication that will never see an article directory, further skewing the stats.

            She has mentioned, countless times, that her CTR is low by some people's standards, but her conversion rate more than makes up for it.

            Her whole plan of action uses the article directories as a means to an end, and not as the whole plan. That is what these stats fail to see. When you aim to primarily use syndication as your article marketing method the directory stats are not important.

            It will become evident in the next few weeks and months as the effects of the Google slap settle in. When your views go down, her views will remain steady.

            I think that is the part you are missing.

            She will put it better than I did, but that is the basic idea.
            I was NOT looking for another thread with "argument" on Article Marketing here. Anyway...

            What do you consider as article marketing BTW? If you ask me, the simple process of writing articles and submitting them to article directories for traffic and backlinks, is called article marketing.

            Let me expound a bit.

            How do you get traffic from article marketing?

            Your articles rank high in the SERPs, your articles are viewed as related articles, your articles are republished on another site and you get traffic from there.

            How do you build backlinks from article marketing?

            Your articles have a resource box link. Firstly, you get a link from the article directory. Secondly, as the article is "legally" republished, you get backlinks from the sites where it is republished.

            Right till here?!

            Till now, there is ONE THING common in my whole lecture above. That's Article Directories.

            Now, you may be using Hubpages and Squidoo, for traffic. That's also a form of marketing your articles.

            Or, may be you are posting your articles on others' sites, as Guest Posts. That's also a form of marketing your articles.

            But we have different terms for them. Article Marketing includes Article Directories! So, for article marketing, it can be said that you have to submit to article directories for re-syndication.

            As for every other singer, you have to go and apply to the audition (that's average). I am NOT talking about Britney Spears, who is contacted by music companies herself.

            And if you are submitting to article directories, you SHOULD have the stats. And if someone's conversion rate is good, I have a question on the conversion rate also.

            And I would request people to just rethink what they are saying twice. It just doesn't make any point when you say that. If you DON'T have the stats, just come and say 'THANK YOU' to the people who are sharing it.

            At least, they have taken action, and not being keyboard jockeys! (pardon if I am being a little harsh here).
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            • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
              Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

              And I would request people to just rethink what they are saying twice. It just doesn't make any point when you say that. If you DON'T have the stats, just come and say 'THANK YOU' to the people who are sharing it.
              You can't call the 'masters' out and then expect them to bite their tongue when you are trying to create a resource for newbies that the masters don't believe is the best advice. That's counter-productive. You asked for the masters advice and they are turning up and sharing it with you.

              There are a lot of guys on this forum who have been pointed in the wrong direction with article marketing when all they need is a gentle shift in direction to have a whole new perspective of how they should approach it.

              Stats are great and should be measured, but you have to be tracking the right metrics to actually improve your results.
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              • Profile picture of the author schttrj
                Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

                You can't call the 'masters' out and then expect them to bite their tongue when you are trying to create a resource for newbies that the masters don't believe is the best advice. That's counter-productive. You asked for the masters advice and they are turning up and sharing it with you.

                There are a lot of guys on this forum who have been pointed in the wrong direction with article marketing when all they need is a gentle shift in direction to have a whole new perspective of how they should approach it.

                Stats are great and should be measured, but you have to be tracking the right metrics to actually improve your results.
                Hey Fraggler,

                If you were to learn something, say golf or anything else, how would you actually want to learn it?

                When you answer to this, I will let you know what I think.
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            • Profile picture of the author TheAnnoyingOrange
              Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

              How do YOU get traffic from article marketing?


              How do YOU build backlinks from article marketing?
              That's not the way that I do it.

              Syndication has, and always will be my main objective when crafting articles for directories such as EZA.

              Backlinks for me are a bonus - although they don't seem to carry much weight since my articles are on PR0 pages and are not relevant to my website at all.

              All EZA do for me is allow my content to be read by other fellow bloggers in the same (or similar) niche as me and hopefully republish my article on their site with my resource box still intact. <--- This will give me a stronger backlink as the link will be on a niche-relevant website.

              They save me the trouble of going out to find blogs which I use for guest posting.
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              • Profile picture of the author schttrj
                Originally Posted by TheAnnoyingOrange View Post

                That's not the way that I do it.

                Syndication has, and always will be my main objective when crafting articles for directories such as EZA.

                Backlinks for me are a bonus - although they don't seem to carry much weight since my articles are on PR0 pages and are not relevant to my website at all.

                All EZA do for me is allow my content to be read by other fellow bloggers in the same (or similar) niche as me and hopefully republish my article on their site with my resource box still intact. <--- This will give me a stronger backlink as the link will be on a niche-relevant website.

                They save me the trouble of going out to find blogs which I use for guest posting.
                Can you just share the stats?!
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              • Profile picture of the author bensonenterprise
                Originally Posted by TheAnnoyingOrange View Post

                That's not the way that I do it.

                Syndication has, and always will be my main objective when crafting articles for directories such as EZA.

                Backlinks for me are a bonus - although they don't seem to carry much weight since my articles are on PR0 pages and are not relevant to my website at all.

                All EZA do for me is allow my content to be read by other fellow bloggers in the same (or similar) niche as me and hopefully republish my article on their site with my resource box still intact. <--- This will give me a stronger backlink as the link will be on a niche-relevant website.

                They save me the trouble of going out to find blogs which I use for guest posting.
                I have to agree with you here as well. I have written roughly just over 50 articles and my main objective is to have that added to re-published. When that happens my opt-in list tends to grow faster.

                Most of the time I don't directly promote a product but I do sometimes, it just depends on the topic I am talking about.

                To me, syndication, is important because it is building my brand and that is going to help me in the long-run so my article marketing is focused on just that.

                Really appreciate the way you put it. Could not have said it better myself.
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            • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
              Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

              What do you consider as article marketing BTW? If you ask me, the simple process of writing articles and submitting them to article directories for traffic and backlinks, is called article marketing.
              And therein lies the problem....

              Your definition of article marketing varies greatly from many of ours.

              My stats are useless to you, since your definition eliminates the largest portion of my business.

              By your definition, my own blog, which is setup to be an article repository for my own works does not qualify.

              By your definition, if I have created a relationship with an Ezine/Newsletter distributor, my work does not qualify.

              oh well....I always preferred the phrase Content Marketing anyway.
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

                If you ask me, the simple process of writing articles and submitting them to article directories for traffic and backlinks, is called article marketing.
                In that case, I hope you'll excuse this observation (made directly or indirectly by many of us, it seems): "Boy, am I ever glad I didn't ask you when I was starting off, then".

                But joking apart, Ron, if that's your conception of "article marketing" then you can more or less take the word "NOT" out of the thread's title, I think ...
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                Originally Posted by myob View Post

                The syndication model has been shown again and again to be far more effective than the one-legged stool of mass article submissions. You really do not need very many quality articles at all to break into even the hottest and most competitive niches. The simple elegance of syndication can indeed be quantified, but not within these consrictions of a misdirected survey.

                Originally Posted by schttrj View Post


                ....As I already said, just saying ONE article will get on top of the SERPs doesn't prove anything. You are just talking like any other fake sales guru here.

                I guess we are here to contribute and create something better out of what is already existent there.

                And if the MAGIC of syndication can indeed be quantified, can you please share your results with us? Something that's believable and thought-provoking?!
                So I'm now a fake sales guru? LOL! You are now in darkness, but the magic of syndication will bring light and lessen your burden from the weight of massive article submissions. Free yourself from the chains of key words that blind. Taste the spirit of originality, and you will feel the dew of inspiration imparting transcendental knowledge to your innermost being.

                Prostrate yourself before the altar of syndication, and ask not for proof for which you cannot understand, but accept the gift with gratitude in your heart. You should be in awe of the masters of syndication, and bow to those who would show you the way.

                Syndication is a very ancient tradition, and in words of the book of Stercus Tauri must not be taken lightly. Go now my son, and syndicate to the world, and your reward will be great. Take no thought of key words nor of SERPs nor of vain numbers, for these will all be added to you in great measure.

                For I have spoken it, the great guru of Stercus Tauri, and no one can beat me in the hot niches. I write my words, and many will read them. One article is seen by a million eyes; this is the magic and power of syndication.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

          Can you just share the stats?!
          No, because it would be misleading and meaningless nonsense to do that, the way you've asked the questions.

          Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

          As you already know, I am hard to be convinced...
          Nobody's even trying to "convince" you of anything, Ron. When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
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          • Profile picture of the author Talinn
            My EZA stats:

            2,017 live articles - 740,704 views - 212,046 clicks - approx. money made from EZA: $55000 over 19 months.

            I am freely sharing my statistics because I have come to at last realize that what I have been doing the last 19 months, while it brought me money, is the DUMBEST thing I have ever done in my life. Just think, 2017 live articles... if I had published them on my site instead I'd have a HUGE site, built of relevant and high quality content, etc...

            Not to mention that if I had written only 100 articles but devoted the remaining time spent for writing the 1917 articles to SEO, keyword research, etc... I would easily be making 100k a year now.

            Effective immediately, I have decided to stop mass article marketing and sell all my websites connected to it.

            Mass article submissions is an incredibly stupid business plan that leaves your fate in the hands of the article directories. While the money was "sweet" and because it didn't need a lot of thinking I had been delaying this decision for a long time, but recent changes in EZA (which is not the only source of my income, but is the biggest part of it) have made me to come to this decision.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashonly
    I wonder if the stats from the past mean anything in relation to what google has now done with it's new algorithm:
    Technolog - Google winning battle vs. lousy sites

    If this is true, it seems a huge percent of the ezine marketing efforts that gave benefits in the past will only have a fraction of the impact going forward.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ronak Shah
    I am not an authority on article marketing but yes, I would appreciate if other people would share their stats!

    It tells us new article marketers how article marketing turns out for most fellow warriors and gives us an inspiring lesson of how to go about doing article marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author LegionNate
    The whole syndication idea kind of boggles my mind right now. Are we referring to adding articles to ezinearticles.com and hoping people pick them up and add them to their sites, or are we referring to actually manually getting our articles on these other sites some how?
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    • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
      Originally Posted by LegionNate View Post

      The whole syndication idea kind of boggles my mind right now. Are we referring to adding articles to ezinearticles.com and hoping people pick them up and add them to their sites, or are we referring to actually manually getting our articles on these other sites some how?
      Yes!

      If someone wishes to pick up one of my articles from EZA that is excellent, but I'm not going to wait if I know the article is top-notch.

      Start developing your own list of blog owners, ezine publishers, and newsletter publishers who use syndicated content, and inform them when you have good content available. You can even offer to write a unique piece for people with large followings. With a little initial work you can develop a very responsive group of publishers in your niche.

      Yes, it takes time. Yes, a high percentage of the time when you make initial contact you get no response. (No, I have never kept stats on it, I'd guess about 65% to 75% do not respond on a first attempt.) As you start developing relationships you will discover word spreads, or they notice your content being used on competitors materials and they start contacting you, too.

      Yes, this does work in the odd small niches.

      There are services available which can help you with syndication, also. I do not use any at the moment. I may consider one in the future. I keep re-reading TPW's free article marketing guide, and have been considering throwing a few articles into his talented hands to see what happens. As in all things, you never know until you try.
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  • Profile picture of the author LegionNate
    Thanks Barry, that's some great info. I don't really know where to even start on finding these type of websites you are referring to, but I'll jump in head first and see what I can come up with.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      @LegionNate

      Checkout the Directory of Ezines (directoryofezines.com) which lists ezine publishers by niche, number of subscribers, demographics, ad rates, and whether or not they will accept articles (many do). Ezine publishers are hungry for relevant content.

      Also I use writers market (writersmarket.com). Most of the major magazines have online editions. It's more difficult to get published (quality is essential), but you'll get the double whammy of online and offline readers. One well-written article can result in a million or more targeted eyeballs, and may also get picked by republishers for reprints and so on to nearly effortless syndication.

      One article I wrote years ago is still being circulated, promoting several Amazon books on mesothelioma at upwards of $300 each. The stats and income from this article and several others in similarly competitive niches are unbelievable.
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        Ugh, I probably shouldn't but, here it goes anyway.

        To Gurus and Experts alike I have enjoyed all your answers.
        However the way you answered them is a tad discouraging, simply because the more I read on the forum the more I see threads that descend into utter madness. For one main reason knowitallism i.e. EGO. There are things that one will take no rebuttals on because you truly have mastered that aspect and others you become the student.
        Let's all begin to at least respect all OP threads and make our comments with a little less piss but, you are allowed all the vinegar you like, It seems everyone will learn from that.

        To newbies, neophytes and alsorans.
        I akin business to combat or a locked door which ever suits your conceptual needs.
        All the respondents COULD have answered your question and in fact gave you very solid indicators as to what you should be doing and the questions you should be asking. OP when you ask the right question you WILL get the right answer. You may have had specific intentions when you posted then saw your thread become like many others on this forum.It all could have been placed back on track with a little INSIGHT on your part and change the question.

        I'd write more but my hate mail box is already full I have to go empty it now for whats coming. Later.


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  • Profile picture of the author LegionNate
    Myob, I've seen you mention directory of ezines before. I'll have to take a better look at the page. I quickly glanced over it and couldn't really tell what was going on. Thanks.

    I'll check out the other resource as well.

    This whole idea is just so foreign to me as someone who was originally taught the whole 'pump out 250 word articles over and over and submit to Ezinearticles.com'. I'm not always into products but does anyone know of an awesome 'product' filled with fantastic resources and explanations based on this entire idea? I feel like that might be better for me than just going bit by bit.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by LegionNate View Post

      ...This whole idea is just so foreign to me as someone who was originally taught the whole 'pump out 250 word articles over and over and submit to Ezinearticles.com'. ...
      Well, just as for me it is difficult to fathom how so many people are convinced that what is termed "article marketing" here is anything more than throwing sh*t into a fan. Some of it may stick, and it does get distributed, but most people are disgusted in having it splatterd in their face. Being a simple kind of guy, (not a guru, LOL!) it seems to me this type of marketing logic makes reason stare back in disbelief.

      Syndication is really not new. It has been in the offline world for decades, and is the lifeblood of freelance writers who have regular columns in hundreds or even thousands of newspapers and magazines. I guess it will take a while longer for online marketers to catch up with what has been working successfully offline for all these many years.

      The recent algorithm changes from Google has reinforced the values of quality and syndication as being highly favored. And you have seen dramatic proof right before your eyes. What more can be said? Search for the topics in this forum under syndication. There is a wealth of discussions.

      The concept of "Article Marketing", as you were taught, may not be dead yet but it is gasping at last breaths.
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