IM Affiliate Refund Not fair

13 years ago

Never going to happen. As an affiliate you take on the risk knowing that your transaction could get scrubbed. If you don't like that then its time to open up the internet marketing book and find another method of making money online. I assure you there is going to be someone right behind you coming in to fill the spot your leaving when you bail on the program.

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Cool Hand Luke

13 years ago

No. If the company doesn't make money, why should an affiliate?

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ShaneRQR

13 years ago

You have to think about this from the vendor's point of view. And not in terms of the product quality, but in terms of fraud-protection.

If affiliates can get commissions, even for refunded purchases, that makes the vendor vulnerable to all sorts of fraudulent schemes.

Especially if affiliates can buy through their own link and get a commission, then this would basically mean free money! Buy, get commission, ask for refund, repeat.

So, with such a setup, the vendor would have a lot of extra work in making sure that all commissions are fair and no one is cheating them.

Better to just pick good vendors and good products as an affiliate and not worry about the few refunds.

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Kom

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

You have to think about this from the vendor's point of view. And not in terms of the product quality, but in terms of fraud-protection.

If affiliates can get commissions, even for refunded purchases, that makes the vendor vulnerable to all sorts of fraudulent schemes.

Especially if affiliates can buy through their own link and get a commission, then this would basically mean free money! Buy, get commission, ask for refund, repeat.

So, with such a setup, the vendor would have a lot of extra work in making sure that all commissions are fair and no one is cheating them.

Better to just pick good vendors and good products as an affiliate and not worry about the few refunds.

I get very good point from your answer

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tonio79

13 years ago

You have to remember that it is a 2 way street.
Without the product creator then you wouldn't have anything to sell.

You mention that the creators would soon start making better products if affiliates still got the commision if a refund took place....well wouldn't they do that if no one signed up to sell their products in the first place.

As an affiliate you can pretty much make money from anything on the internet these days....so don't stick with something that you don't like.....life is too short.

Hope that helps

Tonio

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Tina Golden 13 years ago

Choose the products you want to promote more wisely and you won't be dealing with many refunds. You have thousands of products that you could promote. You make the choice.
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E. Brian Rose

13 years ago

As an affiliate, you are essentially a salesperson for a company, marketing their product. You get paid when you sell their product. If the product is returned and the money goes back to the customer, whose money is it that you want? The company that you are working for? Do you really think that they should pay you for a sale that was negated?

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tpw

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

As an affiliate, you are essentially a salesperson for a company, marketing their product. You get paid when you sell their product. If the product is returned and the money goes back to the customer, whose money is it that you want? The company that you are working for? Do you really think that they should pay you for a sale that was negated?

Exactly.

And if you don't like it, would it be preferable for the seller to take greater care selecting affiliates that generate fewer refunds?

I bet you would be just as happy not to sell my products at all, right?

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Evan-M

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kom

For sure Vendor will dont like this Idea , I am sure That

All the guys with lists full of serial refunders would love this......never will happen, and really shouldn't

for all we know the person with the list could send out 2 emails...one that says...im going to send out a offer in my next email if you don't like it after you buy, your money back! just do a charge back lol....

as tina said, you choose the product you promote, so your just as much to blame for the refund.

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cashcow

13 years ago

Unfortunately, people don't always refund because the product is not of good quality, so you can't just assume that a good quality product would have 0 refunds.

Think of it this way .... let's say you create your own product and an affiliate makes a sale. Say the product is $50 and you pay the affiliate 50% so you give him $25.

Now, lets say the persons gets a refund - if affiliate comissions were not refunded then you would have to give the buyer $50 PLUS you would still be out the $25 you paid the affiliate.

Doies it seem fair when you think of it that way?

Lee

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Kom

13 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

Unfortunately, people don't always refund because the product is not of good quality, so you can't just assume that a good quality product would have 0 refunds.

Think of it this way .... let's say you create your own product and an affiliate makes a sale. Say the product is $50 and you pay the affiliate 50% so you give him $25.

Now, lets say the persons gets a refund - if affiliate comissions were not refunded then you would have to give the buyer $50 PLUS you would still be out the $25 you paid the affiliate.

Doies it seem fair when you think of it that way?

Lee

you give me best answer , I am clear now

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tush

13 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

Unfortunately, people don't always refund because the product is not of good quality, so you can't just assume that a good quality product would have 0 refunds.

Lee

Good point.... affiliate marketing is not a job where you are paid whether there are sales or not. Its business. I would be like a pyramid scheme if money was paid to affilates and yet there is no money being made. The venture would be bankrupt

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Joe Mobley

13 years ago

Kom,

Good for you for asking.

Part of your affiliate development will be to learn which are better products to promote.

Keep going and good luck.

Joe Mobley

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Greg McKenzie 13 years ago

Sounds like a surefire way for the vendor to go bust!

You are a commission only salesperson and if the vendor
doesn't keep the money from the sale - where is the
money coming from to pay you?

To my knowledge there hasn't been a product or service that
offers an unconditional money back guarantee that hasn't or
doesn't get refunds!
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Kom

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

Kom,

Good for you for asking.

Part of your affiliate development will be to learn which are better products to promote.

Keep going and good luck.

Joe Mobley

The think is I Asking this,

Cause I did promote products using google Adword , I spent my money to promote, I get sale and commision $ 500 I was happy Within a week.Then 2 days after minus $300 well i know ,google will never give me money back for this refund that why i come up with this idea.

Is ok.. Experience is allways my best guru

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Kom

13 years ago

I love All of you guys answer

Now I am more clear about, I guess I promote wrong Products, that why My commision Up for 2 week and Disepear after that,

You guys a brilliant and thank for that answer,
Please Forgive me if this question sound mint

Thank you for idea behind the answer.

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terrapurus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kom

What do you think with this idea ?

Please oh please oh please create a product and an affiliate program for it.

I could turn your hard earned cash into mine quite easily.

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BenSalez

13 years ago

How about you promote a high value product instead of picking some random product with a decent gravity?

Your logic is so flawed its amazing.

Give a **** about your customer... promote an offer you believe in and your refunds will be low.

Don't hammer your list or build a website around a terrible product and expect your retention to be high.

Its not rocket science broseph

Originally Posted by Kom

Hi... Need some opinion from you guys

Many of us IM ( affiliate ) get some sale and get some commision for it.

The question is :
As IM affiliate we did work for company to promote and bring sale, as soon as they buy we get commision, right..

Now We did our work for that, Then the costumer dont like it the products, then ask for refund, and then also our commision is gone when they ask refund.

My opinion,
we should still get the commision, no matter what after payment, because we bring the business,

I guess this is good for affiliate. Now If this is happen all of the seller (Vendor) will more carefully to create a products, because they can lose money to pay commision for us ( affiliate )

" As Affiliate we should still get commision what ever the products is "
We did work for that not for free,( Vendor ) so if you dont want your product get refund make best products then.

What do you think with this idea ?

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kianhowe

13 years ago

Shouldn't happen and will never happen. Ultimately sites like CB want more vendors joining them and if more risks are laid onto vendors, well people will just choose some other affiliate sites.

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