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is model-name.com ok?

by thedog
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Hey guys, just want to get your feedback on this before I go buying domain and building a site.

I know it's bad news to register a domain with a company name, ipod, fuji etc..

What about the model number, or name?

Like if there was a running shoe called reebok pump 450

Is registering the name pump450.com or 450pump.com ok?

I don't want to get into trouble with amazon. Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author donkey007
    not a bad idea , you can do it for sure but make sure your that keyword have some global or local monthly searches, so that you can get some traffic just because of your domain name .

    i dont think there will be any problem with any cpa network.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Originally Posted by donkey007 View Post

      not a bad idea , you can do it for sure but make sure your that keyword have some global or local monthly searches, so that you can get some traffic just because of your domain name .

      i dont think there will be any problem with any cpa network.
      Ye the exact monthlys are good, 3000.

      And it's $180.

      I'm looking at the competition in market samurai, all pr 0's, which is good.

      One thing though, one of the pr 0's is amazon.com

      I was under the impression that it was the site that held authority, not the page...

      hmmm
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      • Profile picture of the author Ben Holmes
        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        I'm looking at the competition in market samurai, all pr 0's, which is good.

        One thing though, one of the pr 0's is amazon.com

        I was under the impression that it was the site that held authority, not the page...

        hmmm
        <Satire>Surprisingly, "Page Rank" refers to a page, ie; a single website page</Satire>

        If you're looking at all PR0's, I'd say that was a great place to be, as long as there's traffic.

        But I'll stay out of the debate about using model numbers or whatever... I use a broad topic as the website name, then my specific website pages are titled and <h1> tagged with specific model. Then put 5-6 products on a site.
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        • Profile picture of the author thedog
          Originally Posted by Khadaji View Post

          <Satire>Surprisingly, "Page Rank" refers to a page, ie; a single website page</Satire>

          If you're looking at all PR0's, I'd say that was a great place to be, as long as there's traffic.

          But I'll stay out of the debate about using model numbers or whatever... I use a broad topic as the website name, then my specific website pages are titled and <h1> tagged with specific model. Then put 5-6 products on a site.


          Well that's cleared that up at least
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          • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
            You get highly targeted visitors, but depending on the niche it may not last long. I used to do it with HDTVs but on the smaller models the "shelf life" tends to be short, as the newer models come out the following year the search count drops, and you need to be aware of where in the cycle you're at. So if you're building backlinks it might feel like running on a treadmill after a while. JMO
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            • Profile picture of the author thedog
              Originally Posted by thecableguy View Post

              You get highly targeted visitors, but depending on the niche it may not last long. I used to do it with HDTVs but on the smaller models the "shelf life" tends to be short, as the newer models come out the following year the search count drops, and you need to be aware of where in the cycle you're at. So if you're building backlinks it might feel like running on a treadmill after a while. JMO
              Well it's only 6 months old, and is in the top of it's category, it also has all 5 stars, and only 1 4 star.

              It's a pretty solid product. I hear what you're saying about shelf life, but I don't expect to be doing too much work on it once it's ranked.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by thedog View Post

      Is registering the name pump450.com or 450pump.com ok?
      Registering it for purposes of financial gain, if any part of the domain you're registering is also registered as a trademark, is clearly not something that should be done without legal advice.

      Originally Posted by donkey007 View Post

      i dont think there will be any problem with any cpa network.
      That's why these are inappropriate questions for a forum of this nature: people will not unreasonably answer mentioning what "they think" and/or "they don't think", and if they're not qualified lawyers, it's terribly easy to become misinformed. The potential problem here may relate not to the CPA network(s) but to the legal rights of the trademark owner. :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author PetterHedman
    I think its safe to go with modelnumbers.
    I never had any problems.

    I nowdays stay away from companynames...

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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Originally Posted by PetterHedman View Post

      I think its safe to go with modelnumbers.
      I never had any problems.

      I nowdays stay away from companynames...

      Petter
      I agree, I mean, I'm also staying away from company names, the interent is rife with them...

      Alexa, I take your point... but it's bloody hard out there for a noob to find an exact anything .com with decent numbers

      hmm.. I'll wait for a few more views
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        but it's bloody hard out there for a noob to find an exact anything .com with decent numbers
        So the argument is that it is OK to use the model/number because it's hard to find something else to use? Does that sound logical?

        No one here can give you permission - it's your own decision to make. If you have a problem, "they said it was OK" won't save you. You might get by with it - you might not.

        Check the trademarks - make your decision - live with it.

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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Just keep in mind that many model names are listed with the "style line" name - and that style may be trademarked. I don't care if people try to use trademarked names or model names or not - it's their risk. I think it's wrong to tell people it's "ok" unless you are a lawyer. I'm not.

          The OP gave reebok pump450 as an example. "pump450" isn't trademarked but that model is in the line called "omni lite" - and that term IS trademarked.

          You CAN do it if the domain is available - but you will spend time on a site you might lose at any time if you are challenged. That's why no one else can decide for you or give you permission.

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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            I don't mean any offense to anyone else here but the only advice I'd listen to in this thread was by Alexa and Kay.
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          • Profile picture of the author thedog
            Thanks for the feedback Kay, I'm not saying I can use it because because it's hard to find something else to use?

            I just know it's a gray area, I'm just trying to gage how gray.

            I have a template already done, and I only expect to spend 2 days tops on this site, so, I think it's worth the risk.

            How did you find out that reebok pump was in a line called "omni lite"?
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              You can search trademark database online easily. The only trick is to know WHAT you are looking for.

              In your example you might look for the model and it isn't found in the basic search (at least I didn't see it) - but then you notice when it's used by Reebok it's always prefaced with the name of the "line" - and that is trademarked.

              Trademarks Home

              That's how I would do it - but once you have that info, the decision is yours to make.

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  • Profile picture of the author LauraJames
    I agree with the idea to use model names. Definitely stay away from company names. Good idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author dezchamps
    Always check with the trademark office. You may go for a long time with nothing, and then one day Reebok wants your website and an inflated idea of what you earned from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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    Using a trademarked name in your domain name is a Very Bad Idea. You should consult a real lawyer, not a bunch of IM'ers, when you go into legal stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author affiliatepro15
    It is not really a *grey* area...

    Any time you use a trademarked term in a domain name, you have to calculate the risk for yourself. Potentially, you could spend a huge amount of time building your site and all the SEO and traffic building, only to have the company's lawyers send you a letter asking you to give them the domain name. Also, depending on the product, that term may dry up in a few months when the next model comes out.

    Personally, it is not worth the risk for me. I would rather put time into a safe domain that I don't have to worry about.

    If you are just looking to get in, make a few $$ and get out quick, then go for it. Otherwise just pick a different term that has a exact match domain name available.
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  • Profile picture of the author joymarino
    I agree...you should be fine with model number as long as you keep the "reebok" (based on example) out of it. I'd love to hear back about your results. I've never done that because there are far too many models for me, and not the cash to buy a domain for each..LOL

    Alternatively, you can buy a more generic name like runningshoes.xxx and then "/reebok-pump-450" your landing page and that will also keep you out of trouble because it is not the main domain.
    *Just my opinion, I am not a lawyer, nor am I making 6 figures a month with A.M."

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author reg45
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    Model numbers are ok as long as you don't include any trademarks anywhere.
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