Let Me get this straight (Articles are really a waste of time now)?

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I am new to writing articles so I just got some outsourced through elance. So did I waste my time and money? What is happening with google and articles ....? Can some one explain to me whats going on
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  • Profile picture of the author Owen Smith
    No they are not a waste of time one bit. This information floating around is from newbies who claim they are gurus after reading an article by another guru saying articles are pointless.

    What would the web be without content and articles?

    -Owen
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    • Profile picture of the author czilbersher
      Originally Posted by Owen Smith View Post

      No they are not a waste of time one bit. This information floating around is from newbies who claim they are gurus after reading an article by another guru saying articles are pointless.

      What would the web be without content and articles?

      -Owen
      So true. I am always looking for a good read about the latest colon cleansing products or the new **** diet
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  • Profile picture of the author ELK
    Articles are not a waste of time - far from it. It seems apparent that article syndication is going to make a comeback now.

    Post your articles on your site. Make sure they really offer some value, not just fluff that points to some "real" answer that your readers have to pay for. Submit them to article directories for the purpose of syndication - being picked up and put right in front of your target audience by other webmasters and ezine publishers.

    I am just starting in this area, and I *nearly* made the success-crushing mistake of starting a whole mass-spinning-article-backlinks debacle. With only a couple of articles on my site and those same two out there on directories, the time my visitors have spent on my site is over EIGHT minutes. That's because they felt my articles were worth reading and they hung around on my site. Isn't that the whole idea??

    Obviously, I need to kick myself into gear and continue putting more articles like this on my site and out for syndication. However, this brief bit of evidence confirms that I am on the right path. As one wise article marketer here on the forum has already said today, I just have to "keep on walking".

    If you open your mind to the concept of article syndication marketing, you can surely make those articles and future ones part of an entirely different foundation to your business. Best wishes!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr.Williamstn
      Thanks ELK and Owen smith I just though that I had spent a lot of money for nothing
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  • Profile picture of the author KateD
    Article writing and syndication is a very effective way of creating long-term backlinks that will help your blog/website increase it's position in google's rankings.

    I see it in action everyday. Can you write a couple of articles and expect immediate or overwhelming results? No. Article marketing works best when it is practiced religiously over time.

    Much Success,

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  • Profile picture of the author clkbm
    I know that this is a bit confusing but article marketing is not dead. What has happened from my understanding is that certain article directories have lost some placement due to being so called content farms.

    Read this searchengineland.com/who-lost-in-googles-farmer-algorithm-change-66173

    and ezine articles has put this out.

    blog.ezinearticles.com/2011/02/search-engine-algorithm-changes.html

    I can not post links so you will have to copy and paste these.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    I understand your concern, but you need to look at article marketing from a broader standpoint. Go find the recent post about article marketing by Dr. Mani, read it, don't skim it.

    I do have one question for you. If you could spend all week researching and writing 1 article. Yes, an entire week. Then you could have it published as a featured article on Oprah's website, with a link back to your own site, would it be worth it?

    (No, I have not accomplished that, YET!)
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler Ellison
    Article writing and marketing evolves, it never dies. This is the internet and an article is the most basic form of publishing information - which is what everybody wants.

    If you're going to post articles on the directories and syndication websites, there's so much there that it's much harder to attract good publicity.

    I think if you want to publish really good content, publish it to your own blog and build a following with social media. Those kinds of articles are worth spending an entire day or two on because you'll get bookmarked, tweeted, etc and your OWN site will rank better in the SE's instead of the page on EzineArticles.com, for example.

    Distributing articles for syndication is a good way to build backlinks and get your name out there a little bit, but the returns for that approach have diminished. It can still happen it just takes more work - which is what most article marketers are looking to avoid right?
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    • Profile picture of the author Prady N
      If you provide content, value to your targeted audience...I don't think google has any problem with it...I really don't know why all this "article marketing dead" buzz is there..my articles are still on good position on Google...
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      • Profile picture of the author Race2Millions
        Just like others are saying, article are not a waste. Crap articles are a waste. Google have really crackdown on sites that where ranking high with just crap articles and backlinks.

        Now it seems google wants lengthy high quality articles. Sites like EZA have changed there rules and now only allow 400 words minimum for submission.

        Just like post above me mentioned article marketing is just evolving. Evolving away from the crap article into high quality informational articles that really HELPS the reader.

        Google always said from day 1 that they want to only deliver the highest relevant and quality sites/results. For once it looks like they are KINDA serious.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Unique articles will never die. If you spin all the garbage that google hates, then yeah that way is over, (thank god). If you build a quality site with unique content, google will love you.
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  • Profile picture of the author FredJones
    Why in the world would article marketing not work? It still works. Just that, with a lot of people jumping on the board the obvious mainstreams have become more competitve than earlier on an average.

    But nothing's changed otherwise. Write a good article, that will still get accepted/syndicated. Write an actionable article of high quality and send visitors, and it will still convert like always. Write a good article with acceptance/syndication, and it will still pull you backlinks.

    Every other day I keep reading, something or the other is dead. Yes, things do die, but the basics never die. Article marketing as an art is a basic foundation of marketing. It's alive and kicking.
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  • Profile picture of the author glycodoc
    I agree, articles are still a good idea, just be sure to provide valuable content in your articles. If you provide good content people will want to read more articles from you, this will help build your reputation online.
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  • Profile picture of the author masterjani
    There are two type you can use articles one is just for information passing or write a killer article to get traffic,Web is rolling with articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      If your article directory's page rank were the only factor in the success of article marketing, this could be a big thing.

      But that's not the only (or even the most important) aspect of page rank. We have backlinks, syndication, link wheels, article swapping - all the other ways we add authority to our content. If you're only relying on your article directory's PR to rank high in the serps, you probably don't spend much time on page 1.

      Keep doin' articles! Submit 'em to your favorite article directories. If they're lagging a little in the serps, fix 'em! "We have the technology".

      Like Tyler said - evolving, not dying

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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    Right now the only thing that has truly happened is a purging of low quality content which is great news.

    If you focus on creating high quality articles offering exceptional value you will find that your ROI will be much better.

    Also, don't view article marketing as simply writing and submitting articles to just directories. Morph your content into various other mediums (as a Yahoo Answer, as a YouTube Video, as a PDF on Scribe, as a posting on your Facebook fanpage...etc).

    The synergy created from those mediums will also dramatically increase your ROI.

    Respectfully,
    Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    Article marketing is not a waste of your time... cutting corners, spinning, and scraping and calling it "article marketing" is a waste of your time (and was before Big G changed up its algorithm, but even more so now)

    If you're publishing quality content with quality information, article marketing is a very good way to drive traffic to your site and establish yourself as an expert in your niche. Like anything else, when it comes to article marketing, you have to keep up with the times and evolve with it. Otherwise, you'll get left behind.

    I just published an article on my own site about this very topic that may help you out:
    "Google’s Big Algorithm Change – How It’s Changing Your Article Marketing Strategy"
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Munch
    No the bar has just been raised in terms of quality.

    Detectable spun articles, dupe content, shorter articles and generally poorly written articles will produce much worse results than previously, and are a lot less likely to be accepted.

    The rewards will still be there if you can put out higher quality articles, and higher quality article producers should be more rewarded from here on out.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Before 2005, article marketing was about writing articles that helped people answer questions and solve problems, then submitting them to publishers who had an audience for consideration of publication.

    In 2005, someone proclaimed article marketing works and the quality of content does not matter. He said that so long as you get a link back to your website, in order to make your website better ranked in Google, then that was all that mattered.

    Last week, the 2005 version of article marketing was crippled, hopefully condemning it to enter the dust bin of history for ever more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    I love that people think article marketing is dead
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by AlexBarboza View Post

      I love that people think article marketing is dead

      Yes. We don't have to worry about how to defeat the competition, when the competition is more than willing to defeat itself...
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    Originally Posted by Mr.Williamstn View Post

    I am new to writing articles so I just got some outsourced through elance. So did I waste my time and money? What is happening with google and articles ....? Can some one explain to me whats going on
    Articles are not a waste of time and the web will always be content driven. This is just another one of the changes that internet marketers will have to adjust to. My traffic is still about the same from my articles, so it cannot be that big of a deal. The biggest thing is that if you are putting out crap, then it will affect you. However, if you are writing quality articles you will be just fine.

    Benjamin Ehinger
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  • Profile picture of the author ThelemaqueTip
    Written an Article is not a waste of time at all, because that's how you get a lot visitor to come to your website..whoever told you that Article marketing is dead tell them that "BS"
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    • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
      Originally Posted by Joe.Mc View Post

      I posted this in a thread earlier but I feel the comment answers your question just as well.
      You are absolutely right and I hope this is exactly what happens. I write very high quality content and only charge $1 per 100 words right now, but I get paid extra by many clients on a regular basis. I would love it if these changes would create a larger income for us writers that know what we are doing.

      Benjamin Ehinger
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      • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
        Article writing is not a waste of time.

        It depends on how effective your article marketing strategy is.

        I think Google is merely trying to protect the industry by comming up with the new guidelines.

        One thing you need to look at now if you are relatively new to articles writing is forum posting.

        The same articles you would have posted to EZA can now be used on forums that relate to your niche.

        The quality should be exceptional for you to build the level of trust that will make readers look for you.

        Also, try to get quality articles at cheap rates.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoguru13
    I can explain the importance of article writing with an example. I wrote an article for a client of mine and published it on EZA, after the changes in google algorithm, and to my surprise the article is ranked first in google! For the past 4 days it has been saying a 40%+ click rate. Which means that an article written well and posted in the right directory, is one of the best sources of traffic for your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOsolo
    Originally Posted by Mr.Williamstn View Post

    I am new to writing articles so I just got some outsourced through elance. So did I waste my time and money? What is happening with google and articles ....? Can some one explain to me whats going on
    Articles are better than ever - just as long as they are unique and aren't duplicated from anywhere/to anywhere else on the web. When I'm building links I write one article a day and put it either on the site or externally and link back - that's 30 articles per month... this would cost you a lot to outsource so spend 10 mins a day doing it yourself and save loads!
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyberdetective
    Hi

    Article writing as has already been stated is by no means a waste of time, and will always be effective especially for the purposes of backlinks. The argument revolves around quality and value. Those articles considered low quality and not providing any real value have undoubtedly dropped in the rankings. As have so called "Content Farms". Look at the top 25 biggest losers, what does that tell you?

    # Domain Change SISTRIX (before) SISTRIX (after) # KWs (before) # KWs (after)
    1 wisegeek.com -77% 121,58 28,22 74.024 21.940
    2 ezinearticles.com -90% 65,08 6,65 184.508 54.277
    3 suite101.com -94% 54,04 3,28 178.373 36.904
    4 hubpages.com -87% 55,16 7,40 152.998 50.178
    5 buzzle.com -85% 43,25 6,55 86.472 24.423
    6 associatedcontent.com -93% 38,29 2,57 216.429 53.512
    7 freedownloadscenter.com -90% 30,26 3,01 42.486 7.992
    8 essortment.com -91% 25,73 2,32 27.501 7.459
    9 fixya.com -80% 28,78 5,83 62.034 36.167
    10 americantowns.com -91% 24,88 2,18 26.000 9.799
    11 lovetoknow.com -83% 25,75 4,28 49.544 17.833
    12 articlesbase.com -94% 19,96 1,16 82.274 31.365
    13 howtodothings.com -84% 21,20 3,39 33.222 7.601
    14 mahalo.com -84% 20,49 3,23 33.875 9.740
    15 business.com -93% 17,24 1,13 21.556 4.813
    16 doityourself.com -77% 20,89 4,90 23.256 6.870
    17 merchantcircle.com -85% 18,43 2,67 93.347 34.681
    18 thefind.com -83% 18,95 3,27 74.506 45.495
    19 findarticles.com -90% 16,98 1,74 64.810 20.189
    20 faqs.org -91% 16,52 1,46 33.648 11.142
    21 tradekey.com -89% 16,83 1,79 37.364 16.268
    22 answerbag.com -91% 12,93 1,11 67.314 26.054
    23 trails.com -87% 12,05 1,62 38.346 8.511
    24 examiner.com -79% 10,54 2,19 70.781 31.272
    25 allbusiness.com -88% 8,86 1,08 16.457 6.034

    Write quality unique content and you will not have a problem. If you can't outsource it the cost is minimal, don't bother with copied content. Whilst there is no penalty for copied content as such, the originator will be given priority in search results.

    Regards
    CD
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  • Profile picture of the author a04cmccl
    Writing articles is incredibly time consuming, there is no doubt about it. Writing articles alone, you'll be hardpressed to see any show stopping results. However, if you spin your articles into other forms of media, such as blog posts, YouTube videos, podcasts, etc., your marketing efforts will be quite a bit more potent.
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    • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
      Originally Posted by a04cmccl View Post

      Writing articles is incredibly time consuming, there is no doubt about it. Writing articles alone, you'll be hardpressed to see any show stopping results. However, if you spin your articles into other forms of media, such as blog posts, YouTube videos, podcasts, etc., your marketing efforts will be quite a bit more potent.
      Really? Are you sure?

      Ask Bill (TPW) how much he earned from a single article. I'm not sure what you call show stopping...but I'll bet the figure will stop your show.

      I have not even come close to matching the result from a single article he has, but I know without a doubt a single well written and properly placed article can outperform 20, 50, or even 100 articles stuck in article directories.

      It is the equivalent of running a television ad on your local public access cable channel at 3AM, or running one on Superbowl Sunday with 2 minutes left in a tied game. It is all a matter of impact, timing, and placement.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Barry Unruh View Post

        Originally Posted by a04cmccl View Post

        Writing articles is incredibly time consuming, there is no doubt about it. Writing articles alone, you'll be hardpressed to see any show stopping results. However, if you spin your articles into other forms of media, such as blog posts, YouTube videos, podcasts, etc., your marketing efforts will be quite a bit more potent.

        Really? Are you sure?

        Ask Bill (TPW) how much he earned from a single article. I'm not sure what you call show stopping...but I'll bet the figure will stop your show.

        I have not even come close to matching the result from a single article he has, but I know without a doubt a single well written and properly placed article can outperform 20, 50, or even 100 articles stuck in article directories.

        It is the equivalent of running a television ad on your local public access cable channel at 3AM, or running one on Superbowl Sunday with 2 minutes left in a tied game. It is all a matter of impact, timing, and placement.

        My articles regularly generate sales in the 4- to 5-figure range.

        As Barry suggests, "It is all a matter of impact, timing, and placement."

        My best-performing article of all-time generated $38,000 in sales, effectively pre-selling services that cost $12 to $40 each.

        Now you may be right when you said, "Writing articles alone, you'll be hardpressed to see any show stopping results."

        You may be right, but only because you have no idea how to produce show stopping results with your articles.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          My articles regularly generate sales in the 4- to 5-figure range.

          As Barry suggests, "It is all a matter of impact, timing, and placement."

          My best-performing article of all-time generated $38,000 in sales, effectively pre-selling services that cost $12 to $40 each.

          Now you may be right when you said, "Writing articles alone, you'll be hardpressed to see any show stopping results."

          You may be right, but only because you have no idea how to produce show stopping results with your articles.
          Bill, we absolutely need to have you here on every thread that proclaims article marketing is dead, as you do such an excellent job of debunking this myth each and every single time!
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  • Profile picture of the author offlinemarketer
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    Articles = content. How can writing content be a waste of time?

    Make it good, stick it on YOUR site (why build someone else's business?) and you'll do fine.

    Oh and there's more to the internet than Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    people come in here ever 2 days and say article market is dead.

    LOL

    one day you will be right, but that will be in the year 2145 or something... so good luck to you on that one
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    I don't think it is a waste of time but it is if you don't know how the heck to do it!
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