2 Months on the Warrior Forum, 3 WSO's launched and 5 bumps... Lessons Learned

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I'm relatively new to the Warrior Forum, but not new to doing business online. Last year I did a lot of ghostwriting and for the past 10 years I've been e-tailing online. But since joining the Warrior Forum, I've officially completed my maiden voyage into publishing my own information products.

In less than a month I created 3 information products.

I went in to this whole experience hoping I'd be one of those marketers who generated $20K in 10 days... because hey, I'm not modest... I love money.

Buuuut, that's not quite how it turned out. I actually earned a little over 10% of my desired goal -- $2,153 -- with NO refunds. That equals out to more than 190 sales in less than a month.

I've learned a lot though. And I wanted to write this post for the other newbie WSOer's who may be struggling and wondering why the heck they're not also generating $20K in 10 days.

* Tuesday afternoon is supposedly the busiest time in WSO-ville. But the night time was the right time for me.

I tried the Tuesday afternoon bump on 2 products. The floodgates didn't open and my listing got pushed off the first page in probably 5-6 hours.

But when I launched on a Saturday evening (EST), I generated a decent amount of sales.

Now that's NOT to say you should jump on the Saturday bandwagon. I think it's important to have a few dollars saved up so you can experiment with 2-3 different time slots. And by 'experimenting' I mean don't be afraid to do a late night bump, a mid-day bump, and an evening bump.

* Reviews are ESSENTIAL. Especially if you're a newbie.

I launched my guest blogging e-book without offering review copies until I'd already started getting traffic to the WSO. I later felt like that was a mistake.

With my BIG LIST of Amazon Products, I offered 3 review copies in the sales letter. I gave out 5 and the reviews were great. Woo-hoo! Now I understand the whole social proof thing. As more reviews were added, the sales just got better and better.

Even though I should have my own web page for the BIG LIST of Amazon Products, I still choose to send people to the Warrior Forum to order it. It's not just the testimonials... it's the testimonials from people in this community.

These aren't cut-and-paste testimonials. These are real members here on the forum. Even if you're not a Warrior, you can see these are real people who used my product. I'm convinced that social proof contributes to sales.

* Hype is a part of the business.

Last month there was a discussion about the use of 'hype' in the WSO section.

I tried non-hyped copy here because my products don't really lend themselves to hype. I don't sell with 'blind copy.' I tell you exactly what you're gonna get.

So initially I went in without the exclamation points. But you know what? I needed a certain degree of hype to sell my WSO - especially because I don't sell get rich quick information.

You get a lot of people who come here for shortcuts and riches... riches and shortcuts. It's just the nature of the audience. They want cash making and merriment in 48 hours... not 48 days. I can't change that.

So if I want to sell here, I know I have to go with the flow and hype up my copy... especially the subject line.

* Build products around the topics Warriors are REALLY passionate about.

I'm very passionate about guest blogging because I've helped several clients achieve stellar results as guest writers. And even though people talk about guest blogging here... article directories are a MUCH bigger deal on the Warrior Forum. I'm inclined to think that that's part of the reason why my guest blogging e-book didn't do so well here.

On the other hand, Amazon affiliate sites ARE a big deal here. So in hindsight it doesn't surprise me that I was able to get so many sales with my BIG LIST of Amazon Products. I rode the wave of an already established hot topic and I gave Warriors something that hadn't been sold here before.


Now don't take what I'm saying as the WSO gospel. I'm only telling you what has/hasn't worked for me. What has worked for me isn't the same stuff I read in the WSO launch e-books.

So take what I'm saying, put it in your back pocket, and experiment with your own products.

My goal is to launch another 3-4 WSO's this month to see if my own theories are correct. No e-book, videos or long-winded posts can substitute for trying it all on your own.

Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author marketermatt
    Thanks man thats inspiring

    Im planing on releasing a WSO tommorow any tips?

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      • Profile picture of the author Dahlia Valentine
        Originally Posted by AverageGuy View Post

        I argee most of your points, but the Tuesday afternoon thing, I do not know. WSO is so busy now, you really do not have much control over the timing.

        david
        I've read maybe 3-4 different WSO launch e-books, and the consensus seems to be that Tuesday afternoons are extra busy. There's another Warrior on here with a free app that shows WSO visitor stats. I've seen the Tuesday phenomena a few times.

        The WSO forum is always busy. But I prefer EST evening/night listings. So far. Talk to me in a month and I may be singing another tune.


        Originally Posted by oneplusone View Post

        I made an interesting post on how I thought another Warrior should run their WSO (if she ever decided to do one).

        You can check it out here...

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3464408

        Some of the stuff won't apply to you, on some of it I've agreed with you ... and the rest you can probably learn a lot from.

        Pay most attention to what I've written about USPs.

        I chat with many of the most successful WSO sellers quite often (because I'm a regular buyer of WSOs), and I've got a good idea of how they do things in the WSO forest
        Thanks oneplusone... I'm off to check it out.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dahlia Valentine
      Originally Posted by marketermatt View Post

      Thanks man thats inspiring

      Im planing on releasing a WSO tommorow any tips?

      Nothing extra. Just be there to answer questions in the hours after you launch. Once you lose that initial momentum, it's hard to gain it back.

      Good luck!

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    • Profile picture of the author Peter May
      Originally Posted by marketermatt View Post

      Thanks man thats inspiring

      Im planing on releasing a WSO tommorow any tips?

      Best tip would be to join the War Room because of your low post count you will not be able to launch tomorrow. (if the rules are the same as they were)

      Peter
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    I argee most of your points, but the Tuesday afternoon thing, I do not know. WSO is so busy now, you really do not have much control over the timing.

    david
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  • Profile picture of the author PabloVTB
    Good information. It's nice to have your own opinion of this subject. I've been releasing some free WSO's as well, so I'll take some of your advice about bumping the threads on different days and times
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulMark
    Hey D!

    Thank you for sharing!

    Mark and I had a great first month of WSO releases and we'll be reporting soon. Thanks for your leadership!
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      Originally Posted by PaulMark View Post

      Hey D!

      Thank you for sharing!

      Mark and I had a great first month of WSO releases and we'll be reporting soon. Thanks for your leadership!
      Hey PaulMark... Do share. It's always good to have alternative viewpoints - especially when you can share what went wrong.

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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    It's a common mistake to think of a WSO solely as a way to make immediate income from selling whatever.

    Savvy marketers know that the real power of running a WSO is adding repeat buyers to your list. Honestly, I don't even really care how much money a new WSO I launch makes. It's about lifetime value, not "how much can I make today?"

    I want to commend the OP for taking action in a big way and getting her stuff out there! Funny how success almost always follows.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    Originally Posted by Dahlia Valentine View Post

    I'm relatively new to the Warrior Forum, but not new to doing business online. Last year I did a lot of ghostwriting and for the past 10 years I've been e-tailing online. But since joining the Warrior Forum, I've officially completed my maiden voyage into publishing my own information products.

    In less than a month I created 3 information products.

    I went in to this whole experience hoping I'd be one of those marketers who generated $20K in 10 days... because hey, I'm not modest... I love money.

    Buuuut, that's not quite how it turned out. I actually earned a little over 10% of my desired goal -- $2,153 -- with NO refunds. That equals out to more than 190 sales in less than a month.

    I've learned a lot though. And I wanted to write this post for the other newbie WSOer's who may be struggling and wondering why the heck they're not also generating $20K in 10 days.

    * Tuesday afternoon is supposedly the busiest time in WSO-ville. But the night time was the right time for me.

    I tried the Tuesday afternoon bump on 2 products. The floodgates didn't open and my listing got pushed off the first page in probably 5-6 hours.

    But when I launched on a Saturday evening (EST), I generated a decent amount of sales.

    Now that's NOT to say you should jump on the Saturday bandwagon. I think it's important to have a few dollars saved up so you can experiment with 2-3 different time slots. And by 'experimenting' I mean don't be afraid to do a late night bump, a mid-day bump, and an evening bump.

    * Reviews are ESSENTIAL. Especially if you're a newbie.

    I launched my guest blogging e-book without offering review copies until I'd already started getting traffic to the WSO. I later felt like that was a mistake.

    With my BIG LIST of Amazon Products, I offered 3 review copies in the sales letter. I gave out 5 and the reviews were great. Woo-hoo! Now I understand the whole social proof thing. As more reviews were added, the sales just got better and better.

    Even though I should have my own web page for the BIG LIST of Amazon Products, I still choose to send people to the Warrior Forum to order it. It's not just the testimonials... it's the testimonials from people in this community.

    These aren't cut-and-paste testimonials. These are real members here on the forum. Even if you're not a Warrior, you can see these are real people who used my product. I'm convinced that social proof contributes to sales.

    * Hype is a part of the business.

    Last month there was a discussion about the use of 'hype' in the WSO section.

    I tried non-hyped copy here because my products don't really lend themselves to hype. I don't sell with 'blind copy.' I tell you exactly what you're gonna get.

    So initially I went in without the exclamation points. But you know what? I needed a certain degree of hype to sell my WSO - especially because I don't sell get rich quick information.

    You get a lot of people who come here for shortcuts and riches... riches and shortcuts. It's just the nature of the audience. They want cash making and merriment in 48 hours... not 48 days. I can't change that.

    So if I want to sell here, I know I have to go with the flow and hype up my copy... especially the subject line.

    * Build products around the topics Warriors are REALLY passionate about.

    I'm very passionate about guest blogging because I've helped several clients achieve stellar results as guest writers. And even though people talk about guest blogging here... article directories are a MUCH bigger deal on the Warrior Forum. I'm inclined to think that that's part of the reason why my guest blogging e-book didn't do so well here.

    On the other hand, Amazon affiliate sites ARE a big deal here. So in hindsight it doesn't surprise me that I was able to get so many sales with my BIG LIST of Amazon Products. I rode the wave of an already established hot topic and I gave Warriors something that hadn't been sold here before.


    Now don't take what I'm saying as the WSO gospel. I'm only telling you what has/hasn't worked for me. What has worked for me isn't the same stuff I read in the WSO launch e-books.

    So take what I'm saying, put it in your back pocket, and experiment with your own products.

    My goal is to launch another 3-4 WSO's this month to see if my own theories are correct. No e-book, videos or long-winded posts can substitute for trying it all on your own.

    Good luck!
    Thanks for the tips as I plan to launch a WSO soon myself. I think that the social proof is very important just like you pointed out. Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dahlia Valentine
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      It's a common mistake to think of a WSO solely as a way to make immediate income from selling whatever.

      Savvy marketers know that the real power of running a WSO is adding repeat buyers to your list. Honestly, I don't even really care how much money a new WSO I launch makes. It's about lifetime value, not "how much can I make today?"

      I want to commend the OP for taking action in a big way and getting her stuff out there! Funny how success almost always follows.

      John
      Thank you for reminding me of this John. I totally understand lifetime value, and I'm actually creating new products for those customers who've already purchased from me.

      I, like many others in this forum, am hypnotized by the lure of the big payday. But if that doesn't happen right away, I'll take a list of 190+ happy customers and continue selling to those people.


      Originally Posted by FreshDomains View Post

      Thanks for the tips as I plan to launch a WSO soon myself. I think that the social proof is very important just like you pointed out. Thanks.
      You're welcome FreshDomains.
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