If a 9 year old can do why can't you?

by AzzamS
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My son is 9 years old and decided that he needs money since he has to pay back £600 in debt he owes to me for downloading movies and apps from itunes on his ipod whilst I was away in Saudi last year for a month.

Fortunately for me I was able to convince the bank that I did not consent to it and although I did not use the term 'fraud' they decided to refund the money, phew.

But I never told him this at all so he thinks he is still in debt and on disciplinary for the rest of his life. A great thing that has come out of it since now I can role the guilt dice to keep him off all the electronics in the house except for specific times, and get him to read more books.

He decided to set up a sandwich business to pay me back.

Here is a round up of his ideas and I extremely proud of his thinking:

1) Curries and Indian food are big in the UK, it generates more revenue then the British Steel industry and Chicken Tikka Massala is the nations favourite food. We go to a Cash & Carry that do these meat slices that are as follows, spicy beef, chicken tikka, lamb tikka, etc.

2) He initial thought about making the sandwiches and going to the shops but then decided not to in case he gets no orders and the food is wasted. Consequently he as decided to go to the shops first and see if they want the sandwiches on one Saturday. If he gets the orders in he will then make the sale.

3) He intends to take a note book and pen to take the order and the details of the shop owner including email address/phone number so he can follow up for future orders. He actually used the term 'collate a database' which I was throw back when he said it.

4) Since he has tasted the sandwiches himself he believes that there is no reason why others will not like them either [simple logic of a 9 year, I felt like do the analytics thing on him but held back]. There was one called 'Pastirami' which is more expensive then the others and I love it but he hates and will not put this on his menu.

5) He intends to take my kodak zi8 HD recorder to record whilst he is making the sale, when I question why? He said he will use it to teach his friends how to also sell!

6) A survey will be handed afterwards to gain feedback

7) Those who are willing to can provide a video testimonial that he wants to put on youtube.

8) He has interviewed 3 people and will select one as his assistant. I think he said he was going to pay £2

9) If all goes well then he will set up a website [he did one using wordpress for a beast quest fan page]

Now I do not doubt that I have influenced him with what I do, but what took me back was that when I thought he was not listening to what I was doing online or discussions with family and friends he was actually taking notice.

I do not have the desire for him to become a business person and would like him to teach in some capacity and he will be going to a private school at the age of 11. However I do not intend to control his destiny as long as he finishes his studies and becomes a scholar I will be happy for him to do as he wishes.

I just thought that there is lessons to be learnt for everyone here especially me.

The simplicity of a child's mind is amazing and they do not wrap tenacity with feeble excuse and over analysing like we do
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    Lying to your kids is never a good thing.

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    • Profile picture of the author Landis
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      Lying to your kids is never a good thing.
      I disagree, there are simply some things you wont understand until it happens to you. Parenting is one of them.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Landis Phan View Post

        Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

        Lying to your kids is never a good thing.

        I disagree, there are simply some things you wont understand until it happens to you. Parenting is one of them.

        Whomever told you that Caleb is not a parent!

        And I agree with Landis 100%.


        p.s. If you had dropped a smiley, no one would have thought you serious.

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      But encouraging entrepreneurialism is
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      • Profile picture of the author Rickmci
        Originally Posted by RyanAndrews View Post

        But encouraging entrepreneurialism is

        Yea. That is what all of us need is a little more entreprenerrialism and a little less 9 to 5.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      Lying to your kids is never a good thing.
      Err...Father Christmas?
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    • Profile picture of the author Talinn
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      Lying to your kids is never a good thing.
      And you know this because you have raised a lot of children and now a proud grandparent? As your avatar suggests?

      Lying can be good, can be bad; it has nothing to do with this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      Lying to your kids is never a good thing.
      Absolutely right, but where is the lie?

      I have no intention of taking his money and this incident happened a few months back and I have not taken any money from him and do not intend to.

      But If I had told him 'it is all sorted' then I know that I had provided and easy option for him to think 'my dad sorted' and there is no consequences for his action.

      But in hindsight there is no lie in the situation I just have not told him the truth that I sorted out the problem
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by AzzamS View Post

        But in hindsight there is no lie in the situation I just have not told him the truth that I sorted out the problem
        Forget about lieing, the kid nicked £600 worth of downloadable stuff on your card!

        I think he's lucky to have you as a Dad!

        My Dad would have given me a good hiding.
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        • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          Forget about lieing, the kid nicked £600 worth of downloadable stuff on your card!

          I think he's lucky to have you as a Dad!

          My Dad would have given me a good hiding.
          Fortunately for him I came from Saudi from the pilgrimage of Hajj and was in a 'holier' state of mind and when I can back and found out I went into this zen state all relaxed and thinking 'everything happens for the good and for a reason'.

          If it happened I would have gave him a right good hiding lol
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          Forget about lieing, the kid nicked £600 worth of downloadable stuff on your card!

          I think he's lucky to have you as a Dad!

          My Dad would have given me a good hiding.
          Richard, you're absolutely right - that is a pretty dastardly deed for a 9 year old to pull off. I think he's being let off pretty easily here, my dad probably have given me a sound beating as well, lol!
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        • Profile picture of the author llcoolrobb
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          Forget about lieing, the kid nicked £600 worth of downloadable stuff on your card!

          I think he's lucky to have you as a Dad!

          My Dad would have given me a good hiding.
          well, i have to agree with you my dad would have given me a good beating!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
      Well done to your kid Azzam!

      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      Lying to your kids is never a good thing.
      My little boy's hamster died last week (I know, it's a shock to all of us but in time we'll pull through) .. after we burried him he asked "but where's Harry going now?"

      Wonder what the reaction would have been if I said.. "well son, he will slowly decompose over the next few weeks and if he's lucky he'll become a new home for baby maggots"...

      Hmmm.. that sounds like a Youtube Viral just screaming to get out.
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      • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
        Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

        Well done to your kid Azzam!



        My little boy's hamster died last week (I know, it's a shock to all of us but in time we'll pull through) .. after we burried him he asked "but where's Harry going now?"

        Wonder what the reaction would have been if I said.. "well son, he will slowly decompose over the next few weeks and if he's lucky he'll become a new home for baby maggots"...

        Hmmm.. that sounds like a Youtube Viral just screaming to get out.
        Thanks Mike. Totally agree there man!

        Sometimes you got to do what you got to do.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

        Wonder what the reaction would have been if I said.. "well son, he will slowly decompose over the next few weeks and if he's lucky he'll become a new home for baby maggots"...
        Not sure about the reaction but I bet that would have been the last Hamster you had to buy.
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      • Profile picture of the author goindeep
        Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

        Well done to your kid Azzam!



        My little boy's hamster died last week (I know, it's a shock to all of us but in time we'll pull through) .. after we burried him he asked "but where's Harry going now?"

        Wonder what the reaction would have been if I said.. "well son, he will slowly decompose over the next few weeks and if he's lucky he'll become a new home for baby maggots"...

        Hmmm.. that sounds like a Youtube Viral just screaming to get out.
        Lol-O-saurus! Bahahahahha


        Ahahahah silly kid shouldnt of got caught ahehe

        Good on him for the new business. Good on dad too.
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    • Profile picture of the author jessica.n
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      Lying to your kids is never a good thing.
      i agree with you, thats bad for future
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      Lying to your kids is never a good thing.
      I totally agree with you about lying to your children. There are occasions where you need to, for the sake of their feelings, or where the actual truth would hurt them in some way.

      To the OP: In my house, my word is law. If I didn't want my children to do something, they didn't do it (for the most part, all children test boundaries). I don't need to use guilt, just my position as their father. End of. Of course you can't wind the clock back to prevent the original downloads, but you can control what happens now and in the future. Hope you don't hold the truth back in your sales pages

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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      Lying to your kids is never a good thing.
      Yup. Just ask Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
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      • Profile picture of the author BenoitT
        White lies are right if you don't do it to protect yourself but help someone. That's it
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    • Profile picture of the author TedMarlett
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      Lying to your kids is never a good thing.
      Stealing from your parents, at any age, is not a good thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by TedMarlett View Post

        Stealing from your parents, at any age, is not a good thing.
        The kids are getting more audacious these days, I have a good friend who just went through the experience of his 12 year old son apparently ordering over $600 worth of cable tv programming via the phone, over the course of just ONE month - I was totally flabbergasted, I'm not even sure if I'd even know how to order that much programming in just 30 days!
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        • Profile picture of the author TedMarlett
          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          The kids are getting more audacious these days, I have a good friend who went through the experience of his 12 year old son apparently ordering over $600 worth of cable tv programming via the phone, over the course of just ONE month - I was totally flabbergasted, I'm not even sure if I'd even know how to order that much programming in just 30 days!
          Hi Paulie,

          I can remember kids doing that with the 900 numbers years ago. It is always great to learn a lesson from this and I'm sure some do. The OP's son did a great job and I think the OP was correct in what he did.

          After everything is said and done he can go back and explain the situation to his son--> when his son has the age and ability to really understand what he did and what his father did.
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by TedMarlett View Post

            Hi Paulie,

            I can remember kids doing that with the 900 numbers years ago. It is always great to learn a lesson from this and I'm sure some do. The OP's son did a great job and I think the OP was correct in what he did.

            After everything is said and done he can go back and explain the situation to his son--> when his son has the age and ability to really understand what he did and what his father did.

            I agree.

            When my kids are old enough to appreciate it, I will let them know when I had let them believe what they wanted to believe, in order to teach them a valuable life lesson.

            But if I do it too soon, the lesson will be lost.
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            • Profile picture of the author TedMarlett
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              I agree.

              When my kids are old enough to appreciate it, I will let them know when I had let them believe what they wanted to believe, in order to teach them a valuable life lesson.

              But if I do it too soon, the lesson will be lost.
              Hi Bill,

              It's not only the age of the child, but it is also the ability to understand (ie. evaluate and learn from) what happened and how they can do things differently. All this does come from aging somewhat, but most importantly from good parenting.
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              • Profile picture of the author acedring
                i don't know why all the replys are so off subject!!

                I think it's great that your kid has this type of mindset from just the age of nine and i also think it is a fantastic idea. He is doing what a lot of IM don't and that's taking action. I wish him the best of luck
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            • Profile picture of the author paulie888
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              I agree.

              When my kids are old enough to appreciate it, I will let them know when I had let them believe what they wanted to believe, in order to teach them a valuable life lesson.

              But if I do it too soon, the lesson will be lost.
              Most definitely, they'd have to be at the proper age and level of maturity to actually comprehend why you did this to them.
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              • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
                Ok - So here's a mass reply.

                Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                Whomever told you that Caleb is not a parent!

                And I agree with Landis 100%.


                p.s. If you had dropped a smiley, no one would have thought you serious.


                Get an avatar of a hot chick, and make em wonder...

                You might get some of the marriage proposals that others do who have avatars of hot women -- those who are really women AND those who are really men...
                Well TPW, since you were the one who had the thread, on skimming, I would assume that you understand, most people barely read anything. As you can see I clearly corrected myself later.

                http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3486149


                Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

                Yup. Just ask Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
                Mr. Troll,

                Did you forget to read the thread? http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3486149

                Originally Posted by TedMarlett View Post

                Stealing from your parents, at any age, is not a good thing.
                Did I ever say that it was?

                Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                The kids are getting more audacious these days, I have a good friend who just went through the experience of his 12 year old son apparently ordering over $600 worth of cable tv programming via the phone, over the course of just ONE month - I was totally flabbergasted, I'm not even sure if I'd even know how to order that much programming in just 30 days!
                Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                Most definitely, they'd have to be at the proper age and level of maturity to actually comprehend why you did this to them.
                Paul,

                Your posts are always so insightful

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                Guys, Seriously tho.. Please read my second post in this thread, before you tell me I'm wrong

                Talk Soon

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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by TedMarlett View Post

            Hi Paulie,

            I can remember kids doing that with the 900 numbers years ago. It is always great to learn a lesson from this and I'm sure some do. The OP's son did a great job and I think the OP was correct in what he did.

            After everything is said and done he can go back and explain the situation to his son--> when his son has the age and ability to really understand what he did and what his father did.
            Very true, Ted. Kids tend to lose sight of the value of money especially when they don't see tangible cash changing hands, i.e. with credit card transactions, electronic ones over the computer/phone, and of course dialing 900 numbers as well. As a result, they tend not to realize the magnitude of the offense that they're committing, but that can be easily remedied by having them work for their own money, just as the OP has done with his son.

            Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
    Very good pointers from other posters.

    I believe that parents should tell the truth when it is appropriate and shun the truth when it is appropriate.

    For example when a loved ones has died that is close to a little child. Do you tell the child that she is dead never to be seen again or iyou will say 'she has gone somewhere else and you will see her soon enough'? I know which I would say
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  • Profile picture of the author spope91
    I can't beleive this has turned into a debate about lying to your children lol

    Congrats to your son, may he be successful. You should be very proud
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  • Profile picture of the author jsnfou
    If I was that kid and you were my dad I probably wouldn't be on this Earth.
    Looks like you've got yourself a smart one!
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    • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
      Originally Posted by jsnfou View Post

      If I was that kid and you were my dad I probably wouldn't be on this Earth.
      Looks like you've got yourself a smart one!
      Yes he is smart but irritating as well since he thinks in logic and uses it to his advantage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    I was actually making a joke, but it seems like it was taken the wrong way??

    I think it's great that your actually making him see the value of hard work, and entrepeneurialship. Thank you to those who said I'm not a father yet, so I obviously have no sense in life.

    Guys, I made a joke ... Nice to know you all are that attentive... My parents made me work hard for money, and thats why Im doing so well today.

    I should get an avatar of an old man now

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    • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      I was actually making a joke, but it seems like it was taken the wrong way??

      I think it's great that your actually making him see the value of hard work, and entrepeneurialship. Thank you to those who said I'm not a father yet, so I obviously have no sense in life.

      Guys, I made a joke ... Nice to know you all are that attentive... My parents made me work hard for money, and thats why Im doing so well today.

      I should get an avatar of an old man now

      Caleb
      Nah, just the universal problem of expressing yourself on a forum brilliant book called 'how to deal with the people you hate' which has a section on corresponding on emails, forums, etc to ensure you get to express yourself properly. Great book.
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      • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
        Originally Posted by AzzamS View Post

        Nah, just the universal problem of expressing yourself on a forum brilliant book called 'how to deal with the people you hate' which has a section on corresponding on emails, forums, etc to ensure you get to express yourself properly. Great book.
        Nahh, then I don't get people making funny pics of me:

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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

          Nahh, then I don't get people making funny pics of me:

          Caleb, you're really not going to let this one go, are you?
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          • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
            Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

            Caleb, you're really not going to let this one go, are you?
            Paul,

            I am Caleb Bieber too.

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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      I was actually making a joke, but it seems like it was taken the wrong way??

      I think it's great that your actually making him see the value of hard work, and entrepeneurialship. Thank you to those who said I'm not a father yet, so I obviously have no sense in life.

      Guys, I made a joke ... Nice to know you all are that attentive... My parents made me work hard for money, and thats why Im doing so well today.

      I should get an avatar of an old man now

      Caleb
      Come on Caleb, everyone knows you're 94 really. I don't know why you have that photo from 1915 as an avater.
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      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      I should get an avatar of an old man now

      Caleb
      And maybe change your username to "Benjamin Button".
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      • Profile picture of the author Gail Ogden
        Lying not lying, joking not joking is not what this is about. I agree (being a grandmother to 12) that you can't always tell a child the absolute truth and what you did was the best thing because you forced your nine year old boy not only to see the error of his action, but to find a solution. Even if it is a solution that can't be used, it a great and well thought out solution and you should be really proud of him. He will not think that he can easily get out of any problem he creates so he will think of that the next time he is tempted. Congratulation you did the right thing and so did your son.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahesh2010
    Originally Posted by AzzamS View Post

    My son is 9 years old and decided that he needs money since he has to pay back £600 in debt he owes to me for downloading movies and apps from itunes on his ipod whilst I was away in Saudi last year for a month.

    Fortunately for me I was able to convince the bank that I did not consent to it and although I did not use the term 'fraud' they decided to refund the money, phew.

    But I never told him this at all so he thinks he is still in debt and on disciplinary for the rest of his life. A great thing that has come out of it since now I can role the guilt dice to keep him off all the electronics in the house except for specific times, and get him to read more books.

    He decided to set up a sandwich business to pay me back.

    Here is a round up of his ideas and I extremely proud of his thinking:

    1) Curries and Indian food are big in the UK, it generates more revenue then the British Steel industry and Chicken Tikka Massala is the nations favourite food. We go to a Cash & Carry that do these meat slices that are as follows, spicy beef, chicken tikka, lamb tikka, etc.

    2) He initial thought about making the sandwiches and going to the shops but then decided not to in case he gets no orders and the food is wasted. Consequently he as decided to go to the shops first and see if they want the sandwiches on one Saturday. If he gets the orders in he will then make the sale.

    3) He intends to take a note book and pen to take the order and the details of the shop owner including email address/phone number so he can follow up for future orders. He actually used the term 'collate a database' which I was throw back when he said it.

    4) Since he has tasted the sandwiches himself he believes that there is no reason why others will not like them either [simple logic of a 9 year, I felt like do the analytics thing on him but held back]. There was one called 'Pastirami' which is more expensive then the others and I love it but he hates and will not put this on his menu.

    5) He intends to take my kodak zi8 HD recorder to record whilst he is making the sale, when I question why? He said he will use it to teach his friends how to also sell!

    6) A survey will be handed afterwards to gain feedback

    7) Those who are willing to can provide a video testimonial that he wants to put on youtube.

    8) He has interviewed 3 people and will select one as his assistant. I think he said he was going to pay £2

    9) If all goes well then he will set up a website [he did one using wordpress for a beast quest fan page]

    Now I do not doubt that I have influenced him with what I do, but what took me back was that when I thought he was not listening to what I was doing online or discussions with family and friends he was actually taking notice.

    I do not have the desire for him to become a business person and would like him to teach in some capacity and he will be going to a private school at the age of 11. However I do not intend to control his destiny as long as he finishes his studies and becomes a scholar I will be happy for him to do as he wishes.

    I just thought that there is lessons to be learnt for everyone here especially me.

    The simplicity of a child's mind is amazing and they do not wrap tenacity with feeble excuse and over analysing like we do
    Hi,
    It is really interesting really great points
    thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    i dont think you can just start up a sandwich business without haveing health and safety inspections from the food safety people
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by Frank Ayres View Post

      i dont think you can just start up a sandwich business without haveing health and safety inspections from the food safety people
      Good point, I was thinking that as I read the original
      post. Perhaps he should JV with an established
      sandwich business.
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      • Profile picture of the author mindmarketing
        Nice..

        I'm going to take notes since my 4 year old is just starting to figure out how to use technology. His biggest accomplishment to date was figuring out how to watch "Spongebob Squarepants" on the Wii while I was taking a phone call.

        I kind of like the idea of sending him out into the world to make some money though.
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        • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
          Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

          I totally agree with you about lying to your children. There are occasions where you need to, for the sake of their feelings, or where the actual truth would hurt them in some way.

          To the OP: In my house, my word is law. If I didn't want my children to do something, they didn't do it (for the most part, all children test boundaries). I don't need to use guilt, just my position as their father. End of. Of course you can't wind the clock back to prevent the original downloads, but you can control what happens now and in the future. Hope you don't hold the truth back in your sales pages

          Glenn
          Definitely not going to hold back the truth in my sales pages just not ethical

          Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

          Good point, I was thinking that as I read the original
          post. Perhaps he should JV with an established
          sandwich business.
          I thought about that but let him try it on his own and see his own successes or even failures.

          Originally Posted by mindmarketing View Post

          Nice..

          I'm going to take notes since my 4 year old is just starting to figure out how to use technology. His biggest accomplishment to date was figuring out how to watch "Spongebob Squarepants" on the Wii while I was taking a phone call.

          I kind of like the idea of sending him out into the world to make some money though.
          Good call. At the least it makes them more self reliant and disciplined to work on own initiative
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    I am glad that he is working at it like this but make sure that he realizes what the overall economic effect is of his making sandwiches. Make sure that the food is safe to eat. It is a good idea and go with it if you think it will make cash.
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    Wow. Inspiring

    Thanks

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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
      You said in your post that you are proud of him. Make sure you tell him that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dwight Anthony
    It's so funny that young ones have all the ingenuity to come up with unique ideas and as people get older they start to look for that magic bullet that will make them rich. The ones that have done well have the same tenacity and unique creativity as your son does to come up with something of value to be offered.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    Some kids will do a lot some will do zippo and be lazy just playing video games and what not but if you start young, you will get richer sooner.
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  • Profile picture of the author Audrey Harvey
    If he makes some money from his venture, are you then going to give it to itunes to pay for the downloads he probably still has, and is still enjoying?
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  • Profile picture of the author MissLizzie
    Hey - good luck to your son and I really hope that everything goes well with his sandwich venture! Chicken tikka masala sandwiches would definitely get my vote.

    I really don't want to put a downer on anything, but just be careful about how much work he actually does, when he does it and stuff like that. I'm from the UK and I've come across a couple of cases where the council has stopped kids having a paper round or a saturday job because they were working too many hours/had to start work too early.
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    • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
      Originally Posted by MissLizzie View Post

      Hey - good luck to your son and I really hope that everything goes well with his sandwich venture! Chicken tikka masala sandwiches would definitely get my vote.

      I really don't want to put a downer on anything, but just be careful about how much work he actually does, when he does it and stuff like that. I'm from the UK and I've come across a couple of cases where the council has stopped kids having a paper round or a saturday job because they were working too many hours/had to start work too early.
      With Tameside council receiving 900 volunteer redundancy requests with only 600 possible approvals I do not think they their will be any one from the council to stop him . In fact they will probably ask for a job lol
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      • Profile picture of the author MissLizzie
        Originally Posted by AzzamS View Post

        With Tameside council receiving 900 volunteer redundancy requests with only 600 possible approvals I do not think they their will be any one from the council to stop him . In fact they will probably ask for a job lol
        Lol!

        Starting your own business is definitely the best thing to do at the moment in the UK, with all the public sector job cuts that are going on. I'm sure that he'll find that it's a great experience and all his friends will be jealous about the money that he's making!

        If nothing else, he can use the story in his autobiography when he's rich and famous, a la Alan Sugar or Richard Branson!
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  • Profile picture of the author nerrutis
    Doesn`t matter if ou are 9 years of 55 - if you are eager to make money - it in your blood already!
    I used to sell carrots since a year 8 - gaining some $ to my family, everyone happy!

    And if business blood is in a veins, you cant stop it.
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  • oh boy, reminds me when I stole my mums cc card and ordered several new phones. I was smart tho, I intercepted the statements.... or so I thought. Eventually when she noticed they weren't coming in, she went to the bank. Then ww3 broke loose.

    My kids only 10 months now, but when she gets up to grab something she looks back, waits for me to say no and then does it lol.

    And she cries to the point that my gf gets her out of her cot, and lets her sleep in the middle of us.

    One night we all fall asleep, next thing you know we hear crying from under the bed as she'd jumped down and must have been exploring until she got bored.

    Scared the living sh*t out of us ;<!
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  • Profile picture of the author VGreg
    What an inspiration.
    Kids do not have certain disbeliefs that adults do so sometimes is is easier for them to progress and achieve their goals.
    I think that this thinking is amazing and everybody should learn form it.
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