What does "WSO Pro Verified" and "Paypal Verified" really mean?

15 years ago

As far as I know these terms have not real value. Somebody thought it would sound nice and used it. PayPal does not verify products and WSO Pro does not either.

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nmh

15 years ago

Thanks! That is the trickery that I don't like about the WSO's. Not that there aren't any good ones but when you start doing things like that (if this is just a sales ploy) it gives them a bad name. Granted, again, there some good ones but weeding them out is only harder. I have to say I am A LOT more cautious and hardly purchase anything via the WSO area unless the people I truly trust endorse or make the product. It's getting insane!!!!

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lotsofsnow

15 years ago

Originally Posted by nmh

Thanks! That is the trickery that I don't like about the WSO's. Not that there aren't any good ones but when you start doing things like that (if this is just a sales ploy) it gives them a bad name. Granted, again, there some good ones but weeding them out is only harder. I have to say I am A LOT more cautious and hardly purchase anything via the WSO area unless the people I truly trust endorse or make the product. It's getting insane!!!!

You are absolutely correct.

If somebody needs to employ tricks like that, you should know that whatever else they say can only be a lie.

And if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

on the other hand: There are some WSOs that are worth way more than the $10 or $20 or whatever the price might be.

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zac2

Banned 15 years ago

My website's in Google, can I say it's Google verified?

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nmh

15 years ago

Originally Posted by zac2

My website's in Google, can I say it's Google verified?

Exactly Zac!!! LOL. Isn't that crazy!!!! You are dubbed a Google Verified website owner.

Where is the trust... Where is the love for your fellow Warrior? LOL. I guess it's just about the quick buck but it's not exactly how you build a long term business I'll have to say!

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WhamSoft

15 years ago

Hi,

It seems that people are using these as extra selling points, to reassure the potential buyer that it's a safe buy.

If a person is paypal verified I assume they are declaring that they have verified paypal account and this means that the person has confirmed the credit card address linked to the paypal account. This provides seller & buyer with a reduce risk of fraud and problem transactions.

I can't comment on the wso verified part.

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lotsofsnow

15 years ago

Originally Posted by WhamSoft

If a person is paypal verified I assume they are declaring that they have verified paypal account and this means that the person has confirmed the credit card address linked to the paypal account. This provides seller & buyer with a reduce risk of fraud and problem transactions.

Yes, PayPal verified means that the person submitted their credit card to PayPal. It says nothing about the product.

But a seller that uses "PayPal verified" tries to imply that PayPal has officially verified them or their product. Technically this is called deceiving. And who ever needs that, well they need that, because their products are not good.

If the product is good, you do not need lies or deception in order to promote it.

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christopher jon

15 years ago

As far as I know these terms have not real value. Somebody thought it would sound nice and used it. PayPal does not verify products and WSO Pro does not either.

Exactly. It's a marketing term that has zero value.

BTW,

I am Warrior Forum verified.

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jonluk

15 years ago

Paypal verified. Means that paypal have verified that you are who you told them you are.
I recently set up a paypal business account for a client and they had to provide quite a bit of business information (bank account statements etc) in order to verify the account.

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Landis

15 years ago

I am Charlie Sheen Verified. #winning

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nmh 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Landis Phan

I am Charlie Sheen Verified. #winning

Now THAT is funny! Bottom line, if a WSO says either, I will be leary of the product! It will seriously have to have a profound endorsement of someone I truly trust. It's just getting really bad with all of these "instant riches" products with no work. REALLY? Where is the magic jeannie lamp? I would have better luck with that. That would be #winning! LOL.

I guess through my rose colored glasses I just thought people would have a bit more integrity #wrong!

I will definitely be checking out the product review section a bit more for honest reviews and weather something works or not and feel we should be able to say if we smell a scam or not. Too many people depend on this info for their livelihood so we should look out for each other right? I know I would give someone a heads up!
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- lotsofsnow 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by nmh
  
  It will seriously have to have a profound endorsement of someone I truly trust.
  
  You should trust yourself first. If you depend on the judgement of others you are easily mislead.
  
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zac2

Banned 15 years ago

I am Charlie Sheen certified

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noble

15 years ago

PayPal verified means that their account is verified by PayPal. I don't think they're trying to mislead you they are just pointing this out. The reason you want to buy from a verified account is:

It offers buyer protection

If you read carefully your buyer protection guarantee does not apply to non verified sellers. This means the dispute process functions differently and if you are ripped off it is possible that you have no recourse.

As for gurus and others I would stay away from anyone making claims of WF verifying their product as that would simply not be true.

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tpw

15 years ago

There was a product that came out a few years ago that I thought was scammy.

The product loudly proclaimed on its home page, "As seen on CBS, NBC, ABC and Oprah"...

I looked for reference to the news stories. There was none.

I figured that I could be looking all day for the news network references, so I went and looked for the Oprah reference.

The product was only mentioned on the Oprah site in one place.

It was in a story done by one of the staff writers.

And the story only had one sentence about the product that in essence said, "A lot of people are making claims as to the value of *****, yet there is no evidence that suggests the product works as advertised."

"As seen on Oprah" amounted to a seller suggesting an endorsement, when there was no endorsement available.

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TimG

15 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

There was a product that came out a few years ago that I thought was scammy.

The product loudly proclaimed on its home page, "As seen on CBS, NBC, ABC and Oprah"...

I looked for reference to the news stories. There was none.

I figured that I could be looking all day for the news network references, so I went and looked for the Oprah reference.

The product was only mentioned on the Oprah site in one place.

It was in a story done by one of the staff writers.

And the story only had one sentence about the product that in essence said, "A lot of people are making claims as to the value of *****, yet there is no evidence that suggests the product works as advertised."

"As seen on Oprah" amounted to a seller suggesting an endorsement, when there was no endorsement available.

Bill,
That reminds me about some strategy I read were you buy a small ad in specific magazines and once the ad has been printed you are able to say "as seen in such and such magazines".

Pure rubbish and used only to sway a buyer into doing something they probably shouldn't be doing, which is parting with their money.

Respectfully,
Tim

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Jeff Henshaw

15 years ago

I am Charlie Sheen certified

Remind me to avoid you then :p

That reminds me about some strategy I read were you buy a small ad in specific magazines and once the ad has been printed you are able to say "as seen in such and such magazines"

It's the exact same situation with television. There are now so many channels in a multitude of countries all over the world, that you are certain to find some of them selling very cheap ad space at certain times. It will probably be when the majority of their viewers are asleep.

Nevertheless, when your ad has been shown, you can legitimately claim "as seen on TV" or "as shown on TV"

So purchase a .tv extension as well as your .com and you'll probably get a whole lot of extra business.

And there is nothing illegal about it.

Just my thoughts,

Jeff.

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nmh

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Henshaw

Remind me to avoid you then :p

It's the exact same situation with television. There are now so many channels in a multitude of countries all over the world, that you are certain to find some of them selling very cheap ad space at certain times. It will probably be when the majority of their viewers are asleep.

Nevertheless, when your ad has been shown, you can legitimately claim "as seen on TV" or "as shown on TV"

So purchase a .tv extension as well as your .com and you'll probably get a whole lot of extra business.

And there is nothing illegal about it.

Just my thoughts,

Jeff.

You bring up a GREAT point! From now on, I want to see PROOF of where on TV, magazines etc. I am going to demand it. A simple mention doesn't get it for me in these other mediums. A true "as seen on" would involve a full story on a product!!!

These loopholes are crazy but if we fall and stand for it, shame on us. We should definitely call them out on it though to spare others. It's almost like you see someone about to drive over a cliff and you don't warn them (I know that's a bit more extreme). We should care a bit more about others to spare them wasting their money. I know I would appreciate that.

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Alan Petersen

15 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

There was a product that came out a few years ago that I thought was scammy.

The product loudly proclaimed on its home page, "As seen on CBS, NBC, ABC and Oprah"...

I looked for reference to the news stories. There was none.

I figured that I could be looking all day for the news network references, so I went and looked for the Oprah reference.

The product was only mentioned on the Oprah site in one place.

It was in a story done by one of the staff writers.

And the story only had one sentence about the product that in essence said, "A lot of people are making claims as to the value of *****, yet there is no evidence that suggests the product works as advertised."

"As seen on Oprah" amounted to a seller suggesting an endorsement, when there was no endorsement available.

I've seen sites that had the "As Seen" roll call but where was it seen? Google, Bing, Yahoo, AOL.. etc. So basically the website was proudly announcing "As Seen on the Internet".

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Kay King 15 years ago

It offers buyer protection

But - buyer protection does not apply to digital products at all. Verfied or not makes no difference for non-physical products.
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Istvan Horvath

15 years ago

As it was already pointed out the "verified WSO" and the "Paypal verified" are not equal!

One can put anything in a sales page - and the "special offer" what you read... is, basically, a sales page, nothing else.

While PP will verify your credit card, bank account, home phone number - meaning they really verified my identity.

On the other hand, nobody will ever verify a product for you. Common sense applies.
In my very first month here I bought 10 crappy articles as a "special offer" (now I know they were just spun garbage) - I considered it my "tuition fee"

After that if I ever bought something it always was high quality... I learned what to watch in sellers: credibility, integrity, knowledge + WF history.

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