What Charlie Sheen Can Teach You About Success...

by mr2monster

Posted: 14 years ago 50 replies

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Obviously my point isn't being taken correctly. I'm NOT SAYING that his lifestyle resembles success (even if it is his version). I'm NOT SAYING he's not mentally ILL... NOT SAYING he didn't go off the deep end... I'm NOT SAYING you should be Charlie Sheen, or even be LIKE Charlie Sheen..

I'm saying you can LEARN SOMETHING POSITIVE FROM THE SITUATION.

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Charlie Sheen.... lunatic warlock who's a rockstar from Mars with #tigersblood?? #WINNING!

Absolutely...

Know what else he is? BLOWING THE HELL UP!!!

There's a lot of people that keep trying to bring him down, I'm sure you'd agree... Here's a couple positive things that I think people can learn from this ridiculous "being" though..

1. Haters gonna hate...
Dude doesn't give two ****s about all the negative publicity... Furthermore, he's EATING IT UP.. USING IT to fuel his fire... and most importantly, he's not hiding like a bitch, he's taking it on full force, not afraid to stand up to the haters and not letting the negativity influence his decisions. He's rolling with it. Using its momentum for his own gain.

A popular Youtuber DeStorm often times says: "If you're not pissing people off, you're not doing your best."

2. He knows what he wants/how he feels and he's not afraid to pursue that.
Success favors those willing to take BOLD, DECISIVE ACTION.

For a long time, I've floundered (luckily at a decent success level) and the reason that I haven't been able to bring it up to the next level is simply that I'm too damn scared to make a decision and go with it. Face it head on and be bold about it.

3. He's living in the NOW but thinking for the future.
It's my strong suspicion that this isn't just him losing his rocker (although, it may be a lot of that) but make no mistake that he has a plan. He's positioning himself for something.

He's cultivating a GIGANTIC fan base of rabid supporters because he's doing what other people won't do... That platform will carry him.

4. Tell Yourself Something Enough and You'll Believe It.
"I'm a total freaking rock star from mars.."

"Whether you think you are, or think you're not, you're right" - Henry Ford (if memory serves)

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So, am I saying everyone should go "bang 7 gram rocks" and make weird warlock type decisions? No...

What I am saying is:

Success favors those willing to make bold decisions, take action on them, and OWN them.

It's only life people, you've got one shot at it.. Stop spending it fearing the "what if's" and TAKE the success you want, in no matter what you want.

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I'd like to close with this motivational song.. hahaha. :p

YouTube - Winning - a Song by Charlie Sheen

#charlie #sheen #success #teach

Shannon Spoon 14 years ago

I liked Charlie Sheen before he went off the deep end. Maybe he will get some help before it is too late for him.
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WD Mino

14 years ago

I have to agree with shannon if this is the definition of success I will take a pass.
Charlie has a lot of potential but the way he is going is nowhere but straight down I hope he gets a handle on things and turns it around

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mr2monster

14 years ago

Originally Posted by WD Mino

You guys are missing the point..

It's HIS definition of success.... He's said on multiple occasions that he's happy with his lifestyle, and doesn't care if people don't accept it.

The mentality can be applied to anything.... you don't have to be "bangin' 7 gram rocks"... you can apply it to having your business blow up, you can apply it to your family life, you can apply it to whatever you want..

The point is be BOLD about what you want. Be DECISIVE in what you want... and GO AFTER IT and don't let the haters tell you not to.

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BrianTubbs

14 years ago

I agree that Sheen is an example of over-the-top, no-care boldness, even reckless audacity. To the extent that the OP is simply saying that sober-minded people can learn a LITTLE from Sheen's no-care boldness, then I guess I can appreciate that point. Sheen definitely is a great example of getting attention.

The one thing I do want to caution against, though, is the implication that each person can freely define "success" however he or she wants. I would like to respectfully submit that truth is not relative, meaning that some versions of "success" (no matter how strongly held) cannot be called "success" (not with any credibility anyway). Charlie Sheen is on a self-destructive path. He needs to get help before it's too late.

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WD Mino

14 years ago

I hear ya man good points

Using sheen as an example though may not be the best illustration. he has lost his kids and is ruining his life and success not really what I would consider a success in any book maybe his own book is what needs a new chapter

Good points though don't let anyone stand in your way be bold sure as long as what you are being bold about is worth it and be decisive and take action yup I agree with those points
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ExRat

14 years ago

Hi mr2monster,

What Charlie Sheen Can Teach You About Success...

I think you have it backwards.

He's had success for quite some time. What he's teaching us now is about failure.

He's said on multiple occasions that he's happy with his lifestyle, and doesn't care if people don't accept it.

If he's saying it now, he's lying. Ever heard of 'a cry for help?'

The absolute best lesson you can take from his current situation is the difference between and also the relationship between wealth, success and money.

Our Western societies condition us in many surreptitious ways that it is purely the posession of money that holds all of the keys to wealth, happiness, contentedness, satisfaction, success - all of the things that make a life worthwhile.

There are many reasons for this deception, but the key one is that it enables those right at the top to surreptitously enslave those below to commit their lives (and 'souls') to making those at the top even more richer (and powerful) for a tiny slice of the pie in return.

The proof that this is a lie is all around us, yet the majority continue to ignore it and perpetuate the lie - to their own detriment.

Of course money enables certain benefits - but only to a point. Once you go past that point it becomes your downfall - RE - Charlie Sheen.

His life is totally empty and unfulfilling, that is why he is so clearly unhappy.

He has everything that is claimed to be so precious and desirable - he can earn $2m per episode. He already has more money than he could ever reasonably need. So why is he so messed up and incoherent? Why is he losing his kids and living with parasites? Because he has everything and he also has nothing. He achieved the 'Holy Grail' and found it to be empty. He was conned. He's trying to tell you that, but you need to read between the lines to get the message.

The main irony in the OP is this -

Tell Yourself Something Enough and You'll Believe It.

You've used confirmation bias to twist things around to make a point - a valid one in general - but where it falls down is that Charlie Sheen is the worst possible example to use to make the points you are making.

He is trying (desperately) to justify his existence and his choices and once he realises that he is not fooling anyone that uses rational logic and reason in their thought processes, including himself, that's when his life will be in peril.

In the meantime, the confused herd jump on his words and take the tiniest bits of logic contained within them in order to try and position him as some sort of wise messiah.

Example -

3. He's living in the NOW but thinking for the future.
It's my strong suspicion that this isn't just him losing his rocker (although, it may be a lot of that) but make no mistake that he has a plan. He's positioning himself for something.

He's cultivating a GIGANTIC fan base of rabid supporters because he's doing what other people won't do... That platform will carry him.

The supporters are rabid - that's precisely the problem. They're losing sight of logic and reason. They are so confused by the world that they will take the words of a 'madman' and look for any nugget of wisdom within them in order to elevate this guy as some kind of messiah.

Charlie is clearly charlied off his face. So are a large group of the population. Of course they will identify with him and his logic, because they are desperate for some excuse, any excuse, for being charlied off their face. If only they would realise that it's all to do with escapism from this topsy-turvy world, they would have the key to solving their problems.

But if you look at the other underlying reasons for people to follow and agree with and attempt to rationalise Sheen's words you will see that it's not complicated - the reason is that the people in positions of authority in this world are emperors without clothes - they have been utterly discredited yet they have not been removed from power. They have been steering us on a course towards oblivion yet no one seems able to stop them.

Therefore the masses are looking for anyone (no matter how deluded) to stand up and defy authority (and therefore be their voice, their mouthpiece), regardless of the fact that people like Sheen have been deliberately pushed into fame precisely by those people in power - because they know that he is a false idol and they know that he will simply confuse the masses even more.

The masses identify with him and will attack people with opinions like mine precisely because they are now as confused and deluded as Sheen.

This is precisely what they wanted.

Statements like this -

Haters gonna hate...

...don't exist for no apparent reason. They are a core part of the plan. Don't fall for it. Don't promote the talk of those who aim to enslave you. That's a perverse form of Stockholm syndrome aimed at spreading the syndrome to others.

Another one -

"If you're not pissing people off, you're not doing your best."

Why would the people who piss us off continually with their enslavement of us, their lies, and their manufactured, artificial, vacuous world of increasingly interruptive indoctrination want us to believe this mantra and adopt it as our own? Because they want us to accept them pissing us off perhaps?

He's cultivating a GIGANTIC fan base of rabid supporters

Just how difficult is it to differentiate between 'supporters', 'followers' and those who want to rubber-neck at a train wreck to satisfy their 'wealth' envy, or even those who want to feel better about their own wrecked train by looking at the 'other guy' (Sheen) and saying to themselves, 'he had much more to lose than I and he still went off the rails, so why shouldn't I?' It's not that complicated, is it?

I just noticed your tagline, too -

Less Think More Do

Sheesh. The irony.

'To see the farm is to leave the farm.' Stefan Molyneux.

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Gail_Curran 14 years ago

He's MENTALLY ILL. It could not be more obvious. Have you never seen or listened to a manic person? All his ravings and delusions and threats are the product of a disordered mind. He's a danger to himself and to others. People are blinded by his fame and wealth. If he was some average joe nobody would be cheering him on, they'd be calling the police about the guy screaming about aliens and threatening to cut his ex-wife's head off.
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Robert Puddy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ExRat

Our Western societies condition us in many surreptitious ways that it is purely the posession of money that holds all of the keys to wealth, happiness, contentedness, satisfaction, success - all of the things that make a life worthwhile.

There are many reasons for this deception, but the key one is that it enables those right at the top to surreptitously enslave those below to commit their lives (and 'souls') to making those at the top even more richer (and powerful) for a tiny slice of the pie in return.

Hmmm

As most of that was about charlie and his nonsense I left it out of the quote. BUT roger
really you see things through a distorted window man.

Without rich and successful peole the poor and working class would starve to death.

Without entrepeuners creating wealth for themselves there would be no jobs for the downtrodden (its a typical working class myth that rich people enslave those below them)

All the working class do is shoot themselves in the foot when they bitch about the top earners, and moan about big bonus payments, and expenses payments (Brits will know what i mean here)

The more pragmatic (and truthful) view is that rich successful people create wealth that everyone gets to share in. The fact they take the lions share is fine because there the one who created the wealth in the first place.

equality in wealth is neither attainable or desriable

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 14 years ago

Good to hear another perspective Robert. :-)

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ExRat

14 years ago

Hi Robert,

BUT roger really you see things through a distorted window man.

Without rich and successful peole the poor and working class would starve to death.

How on earth do you arrive at that point based upon what I posted?

There's a simple explanation.

You have somehow come to the conclusion that I am against, or attacking anyone with financial success.

its a typical working class myth that rich people enslave those below them

Instead, just seperate those with financial success/wealth into two categories -

1) the elite

2) everyone else with financial wealth EG entrepreneurs

When I talk about enslavement I am only referring to those in category 1.

For absolute clarity, I am NOT referring to entrepreneurs and 'self-made' men/women in general.

I totally agree with you about entrepreneurs (does that surprise you?) I personally think that they are the most important part of a free market economy and society - they hold the whole thing together.

As for the elite, the landed gentry and the parasitic class that act as the elite's puppets and enforcers, most of whom have never done a decent, honest days work in their lives (unlike entrepreneurs), it's a totally different kettle of fish.

If you choose to lump those two groups together as one, then I agree with you that it's idiotic to be 'against' them because of wealth envy.

But it's just as idiotic not to recognise that there are (at least) two groups and one of those groups are financial terrorists who are currently involved in a transfer of wealth from the masses, via nefarious methods - for example, using the 'financial crisis' in order to asset-strip our country and privatise things which have been paid for (and therefore belong) to the nation.

Does that explain?

To elaborate on the point I was making in the part you quoted (because it was so misunderstood), I'm referring to the typical teen warrior running around chanting 'greed is good' and scoffing at anyone who even considers the plight of others or the state of society - while they try to make nickels and dimes from WSOs.

They act as if they are enlightened entrepreneurs, the next 'Gordon Gecko', when in fact they are simply another brainwashed member of the masses who is simply revelling in their own newly discovered selfishness and ignorance (thinking that it makes them cool) who will end up paying the same extortionate taxes as the rest and buying the same consumer junk as the rest which simply props up and perpetuates the system and the elites who design it.

Hint - the elites own Hollywood. They are aware of the influence it exerts on the masses. 'Greed is good.'

Actually, it's not. And that applies to 99% of the people who use this forum.

THAT was my point Robert.

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The Niche Man 14 years ago

I agree with your success points when they apply to the average well balanced person. But I believe in Charlie Sheen's case your title should be ... "What Charlie Sheen Can Teach You About Short-Term Success!"
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- blue_sky 14 years ago
  
  he is in the show business for what...at least 20 years...
  
  I wouldnt exactly call this short term...
  
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Robert Puddy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi Robert,

How on earth do you arrive at that point based upon what I posted?

There's a simple explanation.

You have somehow come to the conclusion that I am against, or attacking anyone with financial success.

I totally agree with you about entrepreneurs (does that surprise you?) I personally think that they are the most important part of a free market economy and society - they hold the whole thing together.

THAT was my point Robert.

That clarifys a lot... big difference to what i saw originally

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Jun Balona 14 years ago

The guy's is as interesting as it gets.

But I think you're right. He may have some characteristics that are seem too weird but he is not afraid to show it to anybody, haters or otherwise.

Now if Charlie was only a Warrior Forum Member and made a WSO about how he got a million followers in Twitter for one day.. hmm..
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Maruk 14 years ago

I agree. The philosophy of CS is great but the way he carries it out maybe too much for some people. He's right most of the time if you are able to put this whole thing into perspective.
The fact that he is thick helps a lot btw.
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celente 14 years ago

sheen is either the smartest man in the world or the dumbest.

Think about it for a sec, he lost his job....and hate his producers. The last thing in the world the producers want to hear is the name charlie sheen.

So i think that is his fuel for his rants. And you gotta remember he is an actor. Right now he is getting more attention doing what he loves than on his show.

It is one and a half men in real life .....LOL ha ha ha. NO matter if you think he is mentally retarded, he is using this to his advantage...and doing what he loves.

Maybe he is alot smarter than the media are making out, I just know he is making a crap load of money from carrying on. Could be just a stunt.
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PaulMark 14 years ago

Could be just a stunt.

If so, he should host next year's Oscars AND win one!
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EndGame 14 years ago

Given that many people (on this website and others) are labeling Charlie Sheen as an online marketing genius, has he now reached the status of "Internet Marketing Guru?"

And if he has, is this thread technically considered "guru bashing" and against the rules of the forum?

If you think about it, maybe these webinar events he is holding, and videos he is creating, is all part of one really big pre-launch?

Maybe he is releasing his own version of "Niche Marketing on Crack?"
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- Hortensia 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by EndGame
  
  Maybe he is releasing his own version of "Niche Marketing on Crack?"
  
  That I find funny...
  
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mel guard 14 years ago

we need people like Charlie they liven the place up he speaks his mind and gets well paid for it , I dont have a problem with that as long as he leaves me alone
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MichaelHiles 14 years ago

I wouldn't quite go this far.

I posted a topic about his show and converting his Twitter following to a broadcast stream - successfully leveraging his Twitter audience in an attempt to find a new channel and venue.

But I'm not going to turn him into the next Jim Rhon.
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- NyNyDanDan 14 years ago
  
  I just think it's so sad that in this day and age when so many people are struggling to just put bread on the table that Sheen would f**k up a $2M per episode gig. How many hurting moms and dads around the country would kill (not literally) for just a small fraction of that sum so that they might be in a better position to take care of their families?
  
  Money's a weird thing - it flows and goes to some strange places.....
  
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marketermatt 14 years ago

I think he is awsome! haha
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- Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago
  
  Let's see...the guy was the star of a hit show making $2 million per episode
  and now he's out of work.
  
  Am I missing something here? :confused:
  
  Sure, you need to be bold and take chances to really have HUGE success.
  I'm just not sure that the way Charlie has gone about it, if indeed that's
  what he's doing, is the most efficient or best way.
  
  How will this all end? Nobody really knows.
  
  But...and I am only speaking from my personal opinion...if I were Charlie
  Sheen, I would certainly take the life I had BEFORE I got fired over the life
  I have now.
  
  But that's just me.
  
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  mlcmartin 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  Let's see...the guy was the star of a hit show making $2 million per episode
  and now he's out of work.
  
  Or let's see here.. the guy was a whore owned by a broadcasting company and now he is free.. Are we missing something here? Winning.. winning..
  
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AnnaHamer 14 years ago

I am all for your message as well , but this song has replaced the Christian Bale rant remix as the song to listen to when I am feeling a bit down. I saw this trending on twitter, but had no idea what they were talking about thanks for sharing...winning!
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mello87 14 years ago

I see what you mean, however i think your digging pretty deep to drag out what he can teach us about success haha! Isnt Sean Penn helping him out now, i remember him going off the rails in his younger days. Anyways, i still quite like Sheen. Hes been successful ill give you that
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14 years ago

What you can learn from Charlie Sheen...

1. Never buy into your own Press.
2. Don't do drugs.
3. Being rich doesn't stop you from being an idiot.
4. A living, breathing train wreck is always fun to watch.
5. Seek mental help when you need it.
6. Tiger's Blood, Adonis DNA, and 3 Goddess' don't guarantee you can keep your kids.
7. Winning isn't just a 7 letter word anymore.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by TelZilla

LOL....nice.

I've been looking for "Tiger's Blood" domain names all morning.

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affenpinscher 14 years ago

Steve above said it well.

As a mother, I can imagine how heartbreaking this is for his parents to watch
and not be able to stop the train(wreck).
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AnnaHamer 14 years ago

Also we can learn a lot from this example as well. If the maker of that remix was selling something in his link on you tube aimed at young adults he could be raking it in. That's the power of going viral. Using the media and popular culture to promote is "winning"
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Anonymous Affiliate 14 years ago

I guess Aristotle was right after all: virtue lies in a sensible middle point.
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Michael Franklin 14 years ago

Actually, his "winning" mantra sticks in my head....So it can't be that bad! I mean, I am all for empowering mantras!
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bertyounger 14 years ago

Sorry, the only lesson here is don't go off your meds. The man is seriously bi-polar and his behavior is fueled by his drug use. Other than scoring some serious ass I'm not quite sure what he has accomplished with his life.
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James Campbell 14 years ago

Just for fun I applied to be his intern yesterday with this (Because he only allowed 75 characters to apply):
Though not pure tiger blood, mine is part lion, awesome and tiger. Hire me.
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Dave_007 14 years ago

I can see the point you are trying to make. If you are going to do something, do it well.
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Mike McAleer 14 years ago

I don't think it is good to say that he is a success because down deep he is a failure playing off of our senses to be entertained by people's mess ups and weirdness.
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- corycrabb 14 years ago
  
  aah the life of a movie star
  
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  Aussie_Al 14 years ago
  
  IN all honesty it looks like he is about to drop dead at any moment from too much cocaine
  
  I just read yesterday that some medical marijuana places are selling a brand of weed called "Charlie Sheen"
  
  I have seen at least 4 fake Charlie Sheen twitter profiles , how many people are following them w/o being aware its not the real Charlie
  
  I have seen many t-shirt places cashing in on his "sayings" with novelty shirts
  
  Lets hope he lives to see out the year
  
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  blue_sky 14 years ago
  
  Where is Paul Myers when we need him -
  
  I can already see the headline:
  Warriorforum encourage members to party with pornstars, take drugs and have lots of fun ROFL
  
  I just read this article on spiegel about the fact that a lot of people made a lot of money out of Charlie and his behaviour...
  Charlie Sheens falsche Freunde: Kasse machen mit dem Selbstzerstörer - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Panorama
  
  If you ask me - live fast and die young is much better than getting eaten alive by cancer when you grow older...
  
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CDarklock 14 years ago

I think Michael Ian Black said it best on Twitter.

@michaelianblack: "In three days, my interest in Charlie Sheen went from 0 to 60 to 0."
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Great video, that made my day.
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sbucciarel Banned 14 years ago

I think this video says it all about who's winning and who is #notwinning

Episode 2: Torpedoes of Truth, Sheen's Korner Episode 2: Torpedoes of Truth 3/6/11 wytv on USTREAM. Comedy

Sorry ... but I don't see this as a model for anything except self-destruction. This is the most public, most documented meltdown I've ever seen.
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BloggingPro 14 years ago

Oh boy... Mr. Sheen has made headlines here too. This guy is creating a brand of chaos...

I will say that it seems many want to dog on Charlie for his antics and actions, yet none of those same organizations would want to talk about how much money he's currently making them... (I'm looking at you TMZ!)
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- Jason Moffatt 14 years ago
  
  I allow myself 3 Sheen-esque days a year.
  
  When I hit 40 I may have to reconsider.
  
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Blogger B 14 years ago

Well mr2monster ... you do know how to get an active thread started. Which kind of illustrates your point. You have people rallying to both sides of the discussion ... which is great since the plan was just to have an active discussion. Great thread and very interesting points.

P.S. Oh by the way, the man is a classic crackhead who has fried his brain. He was a very talented actor who probably had mental issues. Now he's a crackhead who lives in a permanent brain-cloud. I've never seen anybody come all the way back from where he is now. Hard to feel sorry for the millionaire with the two hot women waiting for him to come home from his weekend binges with porn stars. But he does need some help.
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InternetWriter 14 years ago

I still think Charlie is bitchin'.
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Jonathan 2.0 Banned 14 years ago

Love him or hate him you've got to admit he's a good character. And at least he isn't boring.

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  Love him or hate him you've got to admit he's a good character. And at least he isn't boring.
  
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  OK - I think I made the "wrong" assessment. Until now I just saw the "fun" stuff that's being passed around the Internet. However after doing some research and watching YouTube videos, Charlie has gone completely off the rails.
  
  And I sincerely hope he finds his way out of that mess. :-(
  
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aldzmodelo 14 years ago

I thinks he's going crazy. he needs his goddesses.
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