How Many of You are Making $100k+ Per Year Really?

16 years ago

I guest that there are only few. So far I have know only three bloggers who are making that much. JOhn Chow of johnchow.com, Jeremy Shoemaker of shoemoney.com and Darren Rowse of problogger.net.

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MarcusXavier

16 years ago

are you talking about 100K/yr from blogging only?

i don't know if i make 100K from blogging alone, but I make 100K/yr
from affiliate marketing as a whole.

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Shafiq Kamal 16 years ago

Originally Posted by MarcusXavier

are you talking about 100K/yr from blogging only?

i don't know if i make 100K from blogging alone, but I make 100K/yr
from affiliate marketing as a whole.

No, I am not talking about blogging only. I am talking about all types Internet income. Tell your success story in details.
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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by MarcusXavier

are you talking about 100K/yr from blogging only?

i don't know if i make 100K from blogging alone, but I make 100K/yr
from affiliate marketing as a whole.

Originally Posted by nicholasb

I will fall a little short of 100k this year, but with my earnings now I am on track to make 120k next year.

the last few months have been really good, I have met new people in my life that have allowed me to, increase my earnings so rapidly.

I am very business minded, and I used my first 10 thousand I made to re invest in many different things.

Everything is going well, I even have a sales team in california.. Im near chicago by the way.

I used the internet to make my money but I do have offline businesses as well,

It was a long journey and I have made many failures along the way.

Actually I am expecting these types of answers. And may be I'll offer "nicholasb" to be my mentor if he likes. Because, his answer saying he is not the type of man to spend his time by debating. He has shown silently in his answer that it is really possible. Not only he achieved it but instead of debating he has shown some hints and path. Thanks

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nicholasb

16 years ago

I will fall a little short of 100k this year, but with my earnings now I am on track to make 120k next year.

the last few months have been really good, I have met new people in my life that have allowed me to, increase my earnings so rapidly.

I am very business minded, and I used my first 10 thousand I made to re invest in many different things.

Everything is going well, I even have a sales team in california.. Im near chicago by the way.

I used the internet to make my money but I do have offline businesses as well,

It was a long journey and I have made many failures along the way.

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Mike McBride

16 years ago

Once again, I can't believe that people ask such questions of others - or that others stumble over themselves to answer (as if anyone can verify the veracity of the answers.)

Must be a cultural thing ...

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike McBride

Once again, I can't believe that people ask such questions of others - or that others stumble over themselves to answer (as if anyone can verify the veracity of the answers.)

Must be a cultural thing ...

What's problem with asking such question? It is the problem of your point of view not cultural. Some people always find the negative side of anything.

We are hearing - we can make lots of $$$$$$ from Internet, and finally they are selling their teachings. We are fed up to hear - so much money can be made. We need some motivation by seeing that there are really some people have, who are making real money online. These will help us to be motivated.

We need to know that people are not only selling teachings, they are also making hard cash.

However, if you feel problem, you may avoid reading or posting in this thread anymore.

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Richard Tunnah

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shafiq Kamal

What's problem with asking such question? It is the problem of your point of view not cultural. Some people always find the negative side of anything.

We are hearing - we can make lots of $$$$$$ from Internet, and finally they are selling their teachings. We are fed up to hear - so much money can be made. We need some motivation by seeing that there are really some people have, who are making real money online. These will help us to be motivated.

We need to know that people are not only selling teachings, they are also making hard cash.

However, if you feel problem, you may avoid reading or posting in this thread anymore.

It's considered extremely rude to ask someone's income from where I live. In fact I'd go as far as to say it's like being asked to a neighbours party only to ask him if you can sleep with his wife!
Anyway what does it matter what anyone earns on here. It's not going to help you. It's what you want to earn that matters whether that be $5k a year extra or a mega $10 million a year income!

Rich

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Mike McBride

16 years ago

Originally Posted by richt1971

It's considered extremely rude to ask someone's income from where I live. In fact I'd go as far as to say it's like being asked to a neighbours party only to ask him if you can sleep with his wife!

Rich,

What does your neighbor's wife look like?

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Shafiq Kamal 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike McBride

Rich,

What does your neighbor's wife look like?

lol....................
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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by richt1971

It's considered extremely rude to ask someone's income from where I live. In fact I'd go as far as to say it's like being asked to a neighbours party only to ask him if you can sleep with his wife!
Anyway what does it matter what anyone earns on here. It's not going to help you. It's what you want to earn that matters whether that be $5k a year extra or a mega $10 million a year income!

Rich

Lol! Its like - Some religion/belief like Tantra/Tao treat Sex as a holy thing and some other religion treat it as a bad thing.

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lazavas

16 years ago

Originally Posted by richt1971

It's considered extremely rude to ask someone's income from where I live. In fact I'd go as far as to say it's like being asked to a neighbours party only to ask him if you can sleep with his wife!
Anyway what does it matter what anyone earns on here. It's not going to help you. It's what you want to earn that matters whether that be $5k a year extra or a mega $10 million a year income!

Rich

well buddy have a guess what im bout to say to u, not everyone lives where u live, amazing isnt it?

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Shafiq Kamal 16 years ago

Originally Posted by lazavas

well buddy have a guess what im bout to say to u, not everyone lives where u live, amazing isnt it?

Yes, I agree with you. We need to realize this truth.
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- madison_avenue 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Shafiq Kamal
  
  Yes, I agree with you. We need to realize this truth.
  
  Shafiq, are you saying it is more difficult to be successful in internet marketing because of your location? This may indeed be the case. I feel there are some advantages to your location i.e cheaper outsourcing and living costs etc, but also some disadvantages like maybe harder to get good contacts. Anyway good luck with your future projects.
  
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Jakehyten

16 years ago

Originally Posted by richt1971

It's considered extremely rude to ask someone's income from where I live. In fact I'd go as far as to say it's like being asked to a neighbours party only to ask him if you can sleep with his wife!
Anyway what does it matter what anyone earns on here. It's not going to help you. It's what you want to earn that matters whether that be $5k a year extra or a mega $10 million a year income!

Rich

thats a little extreme. give the guy a break. if people want to answer then they will answer maybe he will get inspired and make a bunch of money. he wasnt asking to sleep with your wife lol

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Nick Brighton

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shafiq Kamal

What's problem with asking such question? It is the problem of your point of view not cultural. Some people always find the negative side of anything.

We are hearing - we can make lots of $$$$$$ from Internet, and finally they are selling their teachings. We are fed up to hear - so much money can be made. We need some motivation by seeing that there are really some people have, who are making real money online. These will help us to be motivated.

We need to know that people are not only selling teachings, they are also making hard cash.

However, if you feel problem, you may avoid reading or posting in this thread anymore.

The problem is, you're saying that you need to hear the proof before you take the effort to apply any work.

That's a bad sign, as you're in a mindset that says "I am only sniffing around the idea of making money online IF someone can show me it's possible". But in reality, the only person that can show you it's possible is yourself.

If you have to find proof and verification before you've even started, then you are not doing this out of passion and you will forever be condemned to finding justification, evidence and ultimate APPROVAL that what you're doing is right and will work.

The only people who make 100k of more (which there are many), are the people who don't sit around on forums all day asking if it's possible. They don't need superficial motivation that is short lived and they are ultimately too busy just earning it instead.

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Nick Brighton

The problem is, you're saying that you need to hear the proof before you take the effort to apply any work.

That's a bad sign, as you're in a mindset that says "I am only sniffing around the idea of making money online IF someone can show me it's possible". But in reality, the only person that can show you it's possible is yourself.

If you have to find proof and verification before you've even started, then you are not doing this out of passion and you will forever be condemned to finding justification, evidence and ultimate APPROVAL that what you're doing is right and will work.

The only people who make 100k of more (which there are many), are the people who don't sit around on forums all day asking if it's possible. They don't need superficial motivation that is short lived and they are ultimately too busy just earning it instead.

Looking for a mentor who really achieved it, nothing else.

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JayXtreme

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shafiq Kamal

We are hearing - we can make lots of $$$$$$ from Internet, and finally they are selling their teachings. We are fed up to hear - so much money can be made. We need some motivation by seeing that there are really some people have, who are making real money online. These will help us to be motivated.

We need to know that people are not only selling teachings, they are also making hard cash.

Who is this "WE" that you speak of... are there are a group of you sat around your computer reading this forum?.. if so say HI...

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Jay

p.s. Your question is rude, ignorant, intrusive and laughable all rolled into one, asking such a question is wrong on so many levels..

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kumar

16 years ago

Etiquette #101:

Never ask a man his income and a woman her age (or is it the other way round

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Shafiq bhai,

Two things you could have done before posting:

1. Used the Search function to find several such threads.
2. Open your mind to what you can do rather than going by what others say/claim. If everyone replied that you cannot make money on the net, would you just quit or try to test it yourself?

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by kumar

Etiquette #101:

Never ask a man his income and a woman her age (or is it the other way round

)

Shafiq bhai,

Two things you could have done before posting:

1. Used the Search function to find several such threads.
2. Open your mind to what you can do rather than going by what others say/claim. If everyone replied that you cannot make money on the net, would you just quit or try to test it yourself?

All the best!

Thanks Kumar Bhai

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

Who is this "WE" that you speak of... are there are a group of you sat around your computer reading this forum?.. if so say HI...

Peace

Jay

p.s. Your question is rude, ignorant, intrusive and laughable all rolled into one, asking such a question is wrong on so many levels..

It's nothing but point of view like - Some religions/beliefs like Tantra/Tao treat Sex as a holy thing and some other religions treat it as a bad or restricted thing. It's a misunderstanding, nothing else. We are not to quarrel here. All we warriors are of the same league. That's our identity. So I am encouraging folks to publish their success story to motivate those of us who want to be successful.

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Mike McBride

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shafiq Kamal

So I am encouraging folks to publish their success story to motivate those of us who want to be successful.

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There is a BIG difference between asking someone to "publish their success story" and asking "how much money do you make."

Look, what difference does it make, really?

What does success mean to you?

Why not define the life you want to lead, and then go after it? IM can help you accomplish that.

Hey, I respect the success that someone like J-Mo has achieved, and admire the fun he seems to have with it. Does that mean I want to be like J-Mo, do what he does, have what he has? Hell NO!

I could say the same about Mike Filsaime or John Reese or <insert favorite guru here.>

More power to them - but I'll live my life, thank you.

Use this forum to build the useful knowledge and valuable connections that will help you create the life you desire - not as a place to ask questions that are ephemeral at best.

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike McBride

There is a BIG difference between asking someone to "publish their success story" and asking "how much money do you make."

Look, what difference does it make, really?

What does success mean to you?

Why not define the life you want to lead, and then go after it? IM can help you accomplish that.

Hey, I respect the success that someone like J-Mo has achieved, and admire the fun he seems to have with it. Does that mean I want to be like J-Mo, do what he does, have what he has? Hell NO!

I could say the same about Mike Filsaime or John Reese or <insert favorite guru here.>

More power to them - but I'll live my life, thank you.

Use this forum to build the useful knowledge and valuable connections that will help you create the life you desire - not as a place to ask questions that are ephemeral at best.

If you have any success story and want to share it, then share it with us. Those who we like this topic will welcome you to do that.

If you don't like, then I am politely asking you to avoid it and not to disturb us those we like it. Remember, here all members are not from your country. Same topic can be come again and again. Every day we are seeing lots of "make money" topic. Those like, they see that. Those don't like, avoid that. There is no need to debate or argue.

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Kevin Riley

16 years ago

Actually, I'm having a very good year. I was finally able to move out of the cardboard box and am now paying rent on a dumpster that barely leaks. Some days I even make enough money for a cup of coffee, and last week I had enough to have a donut with it.

This Internet lifestyle is pretty swank. Would include photos of the bicycle I dragged back from the dump, but I haven't been able to scrounge up a camera yet. I'll just sketch it and send you the picture. Maybe one day, you too can have this.

BTW, if you could be so kind as to buy my e-book on making millions. I really could use a cup of coffee tomorrow.

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kumar

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

Actually, I'm having a very good year. I was finally able to move out of the cardboard box and am now paying rent on a dumpster that barely leaks. Some days I even make enough money for a cup of coffee, and last week I had enough to have a donut with it.

This Internet lifestyle is pretty swank. Would include photos of the bicycle I dragged back from the dump, but I haven't been able to scrounge up a camera yet. I'll just sketch it and send you the picture. Maybe one day, you too can have this.

BTW, if you could be so kind as to buy my e-book on making millions. I really could use a cup of coffee tomorrow.

LOL! Kevin, that was subtle! I hope everyone gets the message.

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

Actually, I'm having a very good year. I was finally able to move out of the cardboard box and am now paying rent on a dumpster that barely leaks. Some days I even make enough money for a cup of coffee, and last week I had enough to have a donut with it.

This Internet lifestyle is pretty swank. Would include photos of the bicycle I dragged back from the dump, but I haven't been able to scrounge up a camera yet. I'll just sketch it and send you the picture. Maybe one day, you too can have this.

BTW, if you could be so kind as to buy my e-book on making millions. I really could use a cup of coffee tomorrow.

Lol! Kevin you really humorous. Thanks for posting. I like your post.

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Willie Crawford

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

Actually, I'm having a very good year. I was finally able to move out of the cardboard box and am now paying rent on a dumpster that barely leaks. Some days I even make enough money for a cup of coffee, and last week I had enough to have a donut with it.

This Internet lifestyle is pretty swank. Would include photos of the bicycle I dragged back from the dump, but I haven't been able to scrounge up a camera yet. I'll just sketch it and send you the picture. Maybe one day, you too can have this.

BTW, if you could be so kind as to buy my e-book on making millions. I really could use a cup of coffee tomorrow.

When you moved into the dumpster next door you drove up the prices
of real estate and now I can't afford my dumpster any more.

Guess I'll move back to my abandon car that I use to live in. I
only moved because it leaked really, really bad. It doesn't
rain that hard here anyway.

Can I get a copy of your book... and after it makes me 1000
times the price, I'll pay you. That's only fair.

Willie

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John S. Rhodes

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

Actually, I'm having a very good year. I was finally able to move out of the cardboard box and am now paying rent on a dumpster that barely leaks. Some days I even make enough money for a cup of coffee, and last week I had enough to have a donut with it.

Hold on...

You get COFFEE on the job?

I'm in the wrong business.

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David McGimpsey 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

last week I had enough to have a donut

In Homer Simpson voice: "Donuts... mmmmm."
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joblythe

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shafiq Kamal

If you have any success story and want to share it, then share it with us. Those who we like this topic will welcome you to do that.

If you don't like, then I am politely asking you to avoid it and not to disturb us those we like it. Remember, here all members are not from your country. Same topic can be come again and again. Every day we are seeing lots of "make money" topic. Those like, they see that. Those don't like, avoid that.

You still don't get it do you, Shafiq?

Have you had a real response yet?

Can't you see why?

And my response to your title would have been - "It's none of your damn business, really!!"

Oh - and by the way - I share my hints, tips and experiences as well as getting advice from other's within the Forum. Maybe you should try that first before asking such forthright questions.

All the best to you - and I will take your hint and avoid this post from now!

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Shafiq Kamal 16 years ago

Originally Posted by joblythe

All the best to you - and I will take your hint and avoid this post from now!

Thanks.

Thanks also to you. We will be glad.
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Lance K 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shafiq Kamal

So I am encouraging folks to publish their success story to motivate those of us who want to be successful.

That's your problem. You want to be successful. You have to become successful.

Once you straighten that out, you won't need to ask such questions anymore.

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globalpro 16 years ago

Originally Posted by davebo

Oh please. I've seen you talk about your income before so don't act like you're that offended.

Touche.

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JayXtreme

16 years ago

Originally Posted by davebo

Oh please. I've seen you talk about your income before so don't act like you're that offended.

You've seen me talk about my income before.. you've seen me discuss that I make good money online, but you have NEVER seen me discuss figures.. or answer a question from a complete stranger about my figures.. it's nobody's business..

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Shafiq Kamal 16 years ago

Please..Please stop debating. Neither I have started this thread to debate nor to know about any certain culture of a certain part of the world. Here we all are warrior. Please post inspiring success story so we can follow that.
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drmani

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shafiq Kamal

How Many of You are Making $100k+ Per Year Really?
Tell us your success story, how you have done this. Let us be inspired.

Originally Posted by britboynovice

Anyone, who comes claiming to make a month is, at a guess, making /3 a month. The best dont brag.

Shafiq,

Quite a few people here are making $100k per year - and many
who do won't reply to your question, and many who do may not
be making that much, and you won't be able to tell who is who...
and in the end, it doesn't really matter.

For many years, I did not believe it was POSSIBLE to make as
much as so many claimed - and it didn't happen to me. Call
it a 'self-fulfilling prophecy', if you will.

What changed (suddenly, I might add) is that I did BELIEVE it
was possible - and later, that it was possible FOR ME - and
what happened was almost magical... it HAPPENED. For me.

No, I don't have any 'tricks' to make that repeatable or
teachable. It's a process, and evolves quite naturally.

For some, it happens quickly. For others, it takes long.
For a few, it never does.

My advice/suggestion: Get involved in the Warrior forum,
be open-minded, observe, learn, imbibe, practice and then
enjoy SUCCESS.

It's all around you - right here!

All success
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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by drmani

Shafiq,

Quite a few people here are making $100k per year - and many
who do won't reply to your question, and many who do may not
be making that much, and you won't be able to tell who is who...
and in the end, it doesn't really matter.

For many years, I did not believe it was POSSIBLE to make as
much as so many claimed - and it didn't happen to me. Call
it a 'self-fulfilling prophecy', if you will.

What changed (suddenly, I might add) is that I did BELIEVE it
was possible - and later, that it was possible FOR ME - and
what happened was almost magical... it HAPPENED. For me.

No, I don't have any 'tricks' to make that repeatable or
teachable. It's a process, and evolves quite naturally.

For some, it happens quickly. For others, it takes long.
For a few, it never does.

My advice/suggestion: Get involved in the Warrior forum,
be open-minded, observe, learn, imbibe, practice and then
enjoy SUCCESS.

It's all around you - right here!

All success
Dr.Mani

Oh, You really inspired me. You have noticed a nice self development point "belief" once I have heard it in my ex self development Guru's mouth many times. I still feel for him.

Anyway, really feeling very motivated that I need to start giantly. Thanks Dr. Mani

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Nathan Hangen 16 years ago

Just 100k a year? That's easy. The hard part is adding a few zeros.
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Steve Daley 16 years ago

Give the guy a break, sheesh. There are a lot of uptight people on this forum. You don't want to respond, then don't. The guy wasn't "demanding " anything.
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telesale1606 16 years ago

Not making that much just started 2 months ago made 1k so far 99 to go
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naruq 16 years ago

I will not state my earnings in this forum. However, I will add that how much a person earns in Internet Marketing or any other Offline Business Depends on that particular person.
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Tom B

Banned 16 years ago

This is a cultural thing and people show be more aware that there are people from all cultures here. My wife comes from Ukraine and that is one of the first thing people ask there. It is no big deal asking about a person's income there and I would assume other cultures would be the same.

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dustinlemos

16 years ago

He wasn't asking any of you this question specifically. He was only asking those who wish to contribute to the thread by answering it. Hijacking his thread to start an argument on whether or not his question is acceptable is not contributing.

Think the thread is dumb? Then why are you here? Think the OP is being rude? Then why are you here? If anything bothers you about the OP or his thread, then why don't you just leave? If it helps him to know that his goal has been reached by others, then who are you to tell him what he should or shouldn't be asking? Just stay out of it, and let those who are comfortable answering the question give their responses and contribute to the thread.

My response: I don't make 100k per year, but I'm getting closer. The tough part for me is eliminating all the "busy work" that yields little or no profit.

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by dustinlemos

He wasn't asking any of you this question specifically. He was only asking those who wish to contribute to the thread by answering it. Hijacking his thread to start an argument on whether or not his question is acceptable is not contributing.

Think the thread is dumb? Then why are you here? Think the OP is being rude? Then why are you here? If anything bothers you about the OP or his thread, then why don't you just leave? If it helps him to know that his goal has been reached by others, then who are you to tell him what he should or shouldn't be asking? Just stay out of it, and let those who are comfortable answering the question give their responses and contribute to the thread.

My response: I don't make 100k per year, but I'm getting closer. The tough part for me is eliminating all the "busy work" that yields little or no profit.

Thank you for understanding the real purpose of this thread.

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Shafiq Kamal 16 years ago

Asking to know about income may be wrong or rude in a certain part of the world but I have no intention to discuss about this rudeness, culture or geographical location. Suppose in my mother language Bangla, addressing older person "you" is rudeness. There are 3 different words in Bangla for the meaning of "YOU" to address older/not closed, same age and younger person. But discussing it here is useless.

I always believe we are human being and it should be our identity. We should have sympathy and have the ability to accept others. We should not judge others only with our own behavior. We need to learn how to respect other people's way of thinking. We need to understand wording and the meaning behind the words what the person want to express may vary. So we'll concentrate on the meaning and purpose, not wording. Screaming about rudeness will not make anyone polite. The real polite person is he who knows how to accept others. And they show it in their behavior.

And I hope everyone knows here - I haven't started this post to behave rude, because I never know it before posting this thread that asking about income is rude in a certain part of the world. And those who took it easy, I honor them because they know to accept people from any part of the world, from any culture. This is their greatness. These types of people are smart and fit for any situation, any place. And it will help them in marketing, because they know how to think from other person's shoes.

However, I wish we'll focus on the purpose of this Thread. If you think you have something to share or contribute that may help, post it please.
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ildarius

16 years ago

Warriorforum is great, but sometimes...

What's with all the aggression here? Don't like the question, don't answer. Jeez... and the Thank Yous that these replies get, like "Yeah, you go man! Word up! Tell him a thing or two!"

Take a deep breath and move on to the next thread, your condescending replies show the type of a person you are. You can see the size of the person by the things that make him/her mad and I can see that it's not much.

To answer your question, no I'm not there yet, but hopefully by the end of 2009

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Warrior Markets

16 years ago

Originally Posted by dustinlemos

He wasn't asking any of you this question specifically. He was only asking those who wish to contribute to the thread by answering it. Hijacking his thread to start an argument on whether or not his question is acceptable is not contributing.

Think the thread is dumb? Then why are you here? Think the OP is being rude? Then why are you here? If anything bothers you about the OP or his thread, then why don't you just leave? If it helps him to know that his goal has been reached by others, then who are you to tell him what he should or shouldn't be asking? Just stay out of it, and let those who are comfortable answering the question give their responses and contribute to the thread.

My response: I don't make 100k per year, but I'm getting closer. The tough part for me is eliminating all the "busy work" that yields little or no profit.

Perfect answer.

Originally Posted by ildarius

Warriorforum is great, but sometimes...

What's with all the aggression here? Don't like the question, don't answer. Jeez... and the Thank Yous that these replies get, like "Yeah, you go man! Word up! Tell him a thing or two!"

Noticed that, too.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

You've seen me talk about my income before.. you've seen me discuss that I make good money online, but you have NEVER seen me discuss figures.. or answer a question from a complete stranger about my figures.. it's nobody's business..

Jay, I agree with you!

It's not just about making 6 figures! It's pretty damn easy to make 6 figures online because of the power of the Internet.

Sometimes my business partners and I get to talking and there are just too many ways to make money and that's when we came up with these 2 qualifiers of an idea...

1. Is it BIG enough to make $1 Million per Month
2. Can it be implemented Fast?

Not next year, not next month, can we start this project today and start making money tomorrow??? That's the mindset we take when we brainstorm a new idea.

That's the mindset of Billionaires alike. I have studied under a few and have read every book on this planet What makes Billionaires Successful and how do they do it.

Therefore, what VALUE are you providing?

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Chris Lockwood

16 years ago

Originally Posted by davebo

Oh please. I've seen you talk about your income before so don't act like you're that offended.

So there's no difference between voluntarily disclosing something personal and being asked to do so?

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THK

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood

So there's no difference between voluntarily disclosing something personal and being asked to do so?

I am sure the OP didn't mean to force anyone to answer. Posting in the thread is voluntary, we could just let it slide. But I think we call ourselves "warrior" for a reason

Plus, the way everyone post photos of their bank and paypal statement, check and tax statement (yes I have seen that too) and make videos of these personal information, it seems more like a norm than offensive in a marketing forum.

I personally don't like talking about my income, so I won't answer the original question. See, it really is that simple.

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MarcusXavier 16 years ago

I just answered this thread in an honest way. I was in no way,
shape, or form bragging.
In fact, I want to be making a lot more.[]

But this is for the OP -

If you are posting this type of thread just so you can try to
get people to mentor you, than that's not cool.

You'd be better off to just read through his forum, find a method
that you want to try, and then test it out. You'll find out much
faster what works for you and what doesn't.

You talk about blind faith, but you have to actually act on what
you're reading. If you just read every method and then question
it's worth forever, you're gonna get nowhere fast.

You need to start doing something productive for your business.
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- Jonathan 2.0 Banned 16 years ago
  
  If I were making $100k/year I'd tell everyone! Well OK not everyone but I wouldn't be offended by the question and would definitely answer it. Or perhaps I wouldn't say how much I make yet still answer it.
  
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  So funny reading this thread with all the oldies and prudes going ape sh*t.
  
  Kamal, mate, this is the internet, and no one has the right to remain "not offended" here, if you understand what I'm trying to say.
  
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MaskedMarketer

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

don't go demanding people tell you how much

demanding? no one is demanding anything.

Are we reading the same OP?

Originally Posted by kierenm

Dudes: Some smart psychologists call it 'unresolved issues'. If you're posting crappy stuff to a question like this guys then you've definitely got 'em going on.
Sort it out boys..
There's no need for hard feelings, this is only a forum on the intranet..

haha...

Its funny how so many Warriors get so emotional over such a harmless question

It's funny how we are in an industry that builds so much of its income off pure hype, deceptive sales letters, and wild claims, like "I MAKE 100K A DAY" and this young fellow comes here for INSPIRATION, help, guidance and everyone shoots him down?

People bash this kid, because he is CONFUSED? He's confused because of the BS this industry puts out.

He is the product of the industry, might as well help him out instead of bash him.

The "IM" Industry is filled with HYPE and BS, so his question is valid.

And if the question makes you feel unconformable, why even be in the thread?

If you're OPINION is "This question is rude", then report it. No reason to bash someone who's only looking for inspiration and help.

The OP has concerns and his intentions were well meaning..

And he did nothing wrong. And if he offended you, GOOD.

Now, stop being so Emotional

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Steadyon 16 years ago

With all the doom and gloom around at the moment I think it is definitely in everyone's interest to keep trying to make income online.

There is no such thing as "job security" anymore.

Even people in seemingly great jobs can lose them, often through no fault of their own.

If you need to have a job to pay the bills then do so. Work part time on your internet ideas until the income gets to a point where you can swop over.

Find you niche, find out what is needed and wanted, offer enough people a quality product or quality information and you can make money.

I make my living online and despite a few dips in the last few months I haven't really noticed any downturn.

In fact since the new year we have had one of our best ever weeks.

Don't give up, keep at it. If things don't work you have to decide when it is time to work on another idea.

There is a balance you have to find for yourself between flogging a dead horse and not having enough persistence.

Experience and knowledge will eventually make your failures fall away quickly and your successes to continue to increase.
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  I wonder how many of the critics on this thread are still reading it just to make sure they don't miss out on something valuable.
  
  No one - it's an old thread from a month ago that was more controversial than active in the first place.
  
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BJ Johnson

16 years ago

Originally Posted by MaskedMarketer

demanding? no one is demanding anything.

Are we reading the same OP?

haha...

Its funny how so many Warriors get so emotional over such a harmless question

It's funny how we are in an industry that builds so much of its income off pure hype, deceptive sales letters, and wild claims, like "I MAKE 100K A DAY" and this young fellow comes here for INSPIRATION, help, guidance and everyone shoots him down?

People bash this kid, because he is CONFUSED? He's confused because of the BS this industry puts out.

He is the product of the industry, might as well help him out instead of bash him.

The "IM" Industry is filled with HYPE and BS, so his question is valid.

And if the question makes you feel unconformable, why even be in the thread?

If you're OPINION is "This question is rude", then report it. No reason to bash someone who's only looking for inspiration and help.

The OP has concerns and his intentions were well meaning..

And he did nothing wrong. And if he offended you, GOOD.

Now, stop being so Emotional

I agree 100%. Please start a political party.

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magentawave

16 years ago

Originally Posted by BJ Johnson

I agree 100%. Please start a political party.

There already is one. Its called the Libertarian party. Live and let live.

Change the channel if you don't like the music! I swear, political correctness is destroying this country and is the foundation of fascism. We are all just soooo sensitive and so easily offended, aren't we?

It is NOT a rude question because he is NOT forcing you to answer and he is NOT asking you to your face (which would be rude). He is asking on THE most appropriate place to ask because this is an INTERNET MARKETING FORUM.

And as someone who works daily to make that (and a lot more)...and am getting "there"...thanks to all the kind and generous souls that contribute to this forum, we don't need you to tell us you make that much, however, IF you CHOOSE to tell us, then great, because we do find it inspiring as we struggle to achieve our dream of living the internet lifestyle. Get it? Good.

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garyv 16 years ago

Ouch... this forum is starting to get a bit harsh. It's quite obvious that the guy wasn't trying to be rude. He's looking for inspiration.

I've seen plenty of posts on this forum where the op gives out exact figures. I've received motivation myself from some of these posts.

Don't be deterred by some of the reactions on here. Many of these marketers guard their small niche like a dog on a ham hock. Not realizing that they're right next to a mountain of ham hocks.

There's plenty of money on here to be made. It's good to be inspired, but even better to just get to work. Good luck.
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oneempowered

16 years ago

Originally Posted by magentawave

...thanks to all the kind and generous souls that contribute to this forum, we don't need you to tell us you make that much, however, IF you CHOOSE to tell us, then great, because we do find it inspiring as we struggle to achieve our dream of living the internet lifestyle.

Well said.

What successful person hasn't been inspired by the stories of those who came before them?

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Chris Lockwood

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike McBride

Once again, I can't believe that people ask such questions of others - or that others stumble over themselves to answer (as if anyone can verify the veracity of the answers.)

Asking in person would be rude, but not in general on a forum not addressed to a specific person.

Expecting honest answers to this is a little crazy.

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Brad Spencer

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike McBride

Once again, I can't believe that people ask such questions of others - or that others stumble over themselves to answer (as if anyone can verify the veracity of the answers.)

Must be a cultural thing ...

Mike,

Amen to that man. Even if a 100k (or whatever arbitrary number you want to put out) would be reading, why would they tell you?

Not to mention, everyone has different skills, desires, and monetary goals. It's very difficult for someone new to get their hands around 10k a month, or 100k+ a year, or whatever. Focusing small while continuously learning and raising your goals is a sure-fire way to get anything you want out of life. Big dreams mixed with a bit of realism will take you to the top!

Cheers,

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Mike McBride

16 years ago

However, if you feel problem, you may avoid reading or posting in this thread anymore.

Thank you for allowing me to do as I feel.

Do you have any idea how many times this same question comes up here? Seeing as you just joined recently, I guess not. Believe me, I could set my watch by threads like this being started.

It always comes down to the same thing - the b.s.'ers who throw numbers around like confetti, and those who believe that it's nobody's freakin' business how much they earn (except for the tax man, of course.)

We need to know that people are not only selling teachings, they are also making hard cash.

Wait, let me run outside and take a picture of my Jaguar sitting in the driveway of my Victorian Mansion. Oh heck, it's cold outside - I'll get the butler to do it.

"Jeeves, come hither. When you go out to the stable to feed the horses, do stop and take a few pictures of the Jag. Make sure you don't get the helicopter in the photo, though - I'd hate to appear to be bragging."

Dude, if you're into this because someone told you that you can make an easy boatload of money, you're setting yourself up for failure."

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James Schramko

16 years ago

Shafiq if you need someone else to motivate you you are perhaps missing the one ingredient that will cause success for you.

If you work on the probability there must be somebody out there doing pretty good.... then the answer is clear.

If you choose to be that person no matter what, and you are motivated from within you will be on the right track.

This will mean you will learn and gather experience and achieve a result that you can develop and hone into a great result.

There are plenty of people making 100k a year. There are a lot of people who will never make that...

YOU choose.

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by James Schramko

Shafiq if you need someone else to motivate you you are perhaps missing the one ingredient that will cause success for you.

If you work on the probability there must be somebody out there doing pretty good.... then the answer is clear.

If you choose to be that person no matter what, and you are motivated from within you will be on the right track.

This will mean you will learn and gather experience and achieve a result that you can develop and hone into a great result.

There are plenty of people making 100k a year. There are a lot of people who will never make that...

YOU choose.

Thanks for your post James. I am actually looking for someone who really made lots of cash from Internet. I'll learn the real lesson from him because he did it. You know many IMer's claim they made lot but actually they didn't. Many are failing by following them. That is the need of this thread.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shafiq Kamal

Thanks for your post James. I am actually looking for someone who really made lots of cash from Internet. I'll learn the real lesson from him because he did it. You know many IMer's claim they made lot but actually they didn't. Many are failing by following them. That is the need of this thread.

So you are looking for a mentor who has achieved the result already that you wish to model from. That makes a lot of sense.

Does it matter then how many are making 100K or are you just looking for one?

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dantealigre

16 years ago

If anyone feels offended with the question, why bother to answer it? Replying or not replying to the question won't make one anyone poorer or richer than he was before stumbling upon this thread.

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samcarson

16 years ago

Hey Shafiq,

My best recommendation for newbies, spend some time reading some old posts in the forum. You will automagically be able to recognize the successful ones. And please remember that even after short listing your possible mentors, some of them may be too busy to help you. Keep following the wso section, they frequently have coaching offers.

Hope that helped

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Razorblade

16 years ago

Originally Posted by MarcusXavier

are you talking about 100K/yr from blogging only?

i don't know if i make 100K from blogging alone, but I make 100K/yr
from affiliate marketing as a whole.

Originally Posted by nicholasb

I will fall a little short of 100k this year, but with my earnings now I am on track to make 120k next year.

the last few months have been really good, I have met new people in my life that have allowed me to, increase my earnings so rapidly.

I am very business minded, and I used my first 10 thousand I made to re invest in many different things.

Everything is going well, I even have a sales team in california.. Im near chicago by the way.

I used the internet to make my money but I do have offline businesses as well,

It was a long journey and I have made many failures along the way.

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Hey Shafiq,

My best recommendation for newbies, spend some time reading some old posts in the forum. You will automagically be able to recognize the successful ones. And please remember that even after short listing your possible mentors, some of them may be too busy to help you. Keep following the wso section, they frequently have coaching offers.

Hope that helped

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Why can't people just answer just like those above?

What's wrong with the question? If you think it's not worth answering, then why bother posting a response?

What's the point of bashing people who ask questions like what the OP just asked? To tell people that you're smart, that you have manners?

People in your place don't ask that kind of question? And you want your kind of question asked here? Wow! This is the internet, this is nobody's backyard. This is home to everybody. You got to learn how to respect other people's way of thinking.

Is it so much an effort to express your opinion in some nice way?

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Jakehyten

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Razorblade

Why can't people just answer just like those above?

What's wrong with the question? If you think it's not worth answering, then why bother posting a response?

What's the point of bashing people who ask questions like what the OP just asked? To tell people that you're smart, that you have manners?

People in your place don't ask that kind of question? And you want your kind of question asked here? Wow! This is the internet, this is nobody's backyard. This is home to everybody. You got to learn how to respect other people's way of thinking.

Is it so much an effort to express your opinion in some nice way?

What a great response.

I'm constantly amazed at how many politically correct, sensitive whiney babies there are.

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Mike McBride 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jakehyten

What a great response.

I'm constantly amazed at how many politically correct, sensitive whiney babies there are.

Yeah, and I'm increasingly amazed at the number of clueless "warriors" asking pointless questions and making uninformed, half-assed replies. :rolleyes:
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  Me too mike. Although without those clueless questions we wouldn't have anyone to market to because everyone would know everything. Not sure if you knew that or not. And i think you just put yourself in the uninformed half-assed replies category.
  
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Dan Ambrose

16 years ago

$100,000 per year is just over $8k per month.

This is very achievable if you have the right product.

I have been making over $10,000 per month for the last 3 months now, simply through having just under 400 members paying me $27 per month through my membership site which teaches newbies how to make money online.

Like I said - it IS achievable.. but you gotta take ACTION!

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Bev Clement

16 years ago

If you are looking for a mentor then say so, don't go demanding people tell you how much they make.

You have completely the wrong mindset to make a lot of money online. Do you think all lecturers in economics and business make huge incomes? They know the systems, they know how to do they work, they chose not to.

It is rude to ask someone their income, but not from where you live, that would be the first question to ask. So why not share your success story and tell us how much you have earned, it shouldn't be a problem because you tell your friends and neighbours because that is done in your part of the world.

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kumar

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

It is rude to ask someone their income, but not from where you live, that would be the first question to ask. So why not share your success story and tell us how much you have earned, it shouldn't be a problem because you tell your friends and neighbours because that is done in your part of the world.

Bev,

I don't agree with the OP. Even then, you probably could have done better than trying to drag the "place where he lives" into the picture. Surely, you don't bring everyone's geographical region/surroundings or whatever you meant (ah, the joys of Forum Communication!) into discussions with anyone you don't agree.

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Bev Clement

16 years ago

Originally Posted by kumar

Bev,

I don't agree with the OP. Even then, you probably could have done better than trying to drag the "place where he lives" into the picture. Surely, you don't bring everyone's geographical region/surroundings or whatever you meant (ah, the joys of Forum Communication!) into discussions with anyone you don't agree.

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You read far more into it than was implied. I stated a fact, if you live in Asia then it is part of the culture. When we went to India we were asked all the time how much we earned. It had nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing, where the OP lives, this is a standard question, plain and simple.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

You read far more into it than was implied. I stated a fact, if you live in Asia then it is part of the culture. When we went to India we were asked all the time how much we earned. It had nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing, where the OP lives, this is a standard question, plain and simple.

Not in my part of Asia. We never talk about income.

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kumar

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

You read far more into it than was implied. I stated a fact, if you live in Asia then it is part of the culture. When we went to India we were asked all the time how much we earned. It had nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing, where the OP lives, this is a standard question, plain and simple.

I can tell you that I take offense when someone asks about my income, so do most of the educated people I know in my land.

Your post just seemed to be too generic and stereotypical. If you think it is part of Asia's culture (which I don't agree), accept it as a fact and let the OP ask what he wants to know. Your limited experience of a part of the world doesn't make it a universal fact.

By the way, I can remember many posts by warriors from across the world (and including your part of the world) mentioning their incomes in various threads.

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Barry Davis

16 years ago

Shafiq,
There are any number of legitimate reasons why your question might not be answered. And if someone says, "Yes, I make $$$$$ per year" -- how do you know if they are telling the truth?

Have you noticed how many people on here sell e-books and courses teaching how to make large amounts of money, and then a week later put up a WSO stating that they need fast cash to pay their rent?

You can take this or leave it, but I have no doubt that some are making not only 100K a year, but much more than that. I also have no doubt that there are a lot who are faking it. I guess it is up to you to figure out who is for real and who isn't.

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16 years ago

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cesarsan

16 years ago

It WAS an interesting question about inspirational stories of people that succedeed on IM. But some turned it into a train wreck.

Why should I care about (general) you consider or not polite?

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Mike McBride

16 years ago

One nice thing about threads like this - they separate those who have been in real businesses in the real (brick-and-mortar) world, from the poseurs who are online "playing" at business and pretending they have a clue.

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Julian Lockhart

16 years ago

I think OP's question could have made quite a nice post if people that made out good this year posted something USEFUL.

I.E.
Someone who has exceeded 6 figures posted "hey, I did that take a look at my post or sig." Or even said "the one thing that changed it all for me was "I stopped jumping from one project to another." or " I got LASER Focused" etc.

Taking a dump on OP has no value to me.

I hear a lot of people say this place is where people give back, support one another, etc.

Well let's put that into practice.

BTW as a recruiter in a past life I asked many people how much do they make, Most of the time it was not an issue. Other times people said I'm not comfortable sharing that. That's OK too.

This notion that it is rude to ask how much someone makes is "made up"(culturally). Given that this is a public forum on "make money online" it should be OK to ask people to share how much they are making AND if someone does not want to share that because they are uncomfortable then they should be allowed to keep it private. SIMPLE

To each his own & enough of the tough love. OK?

PS the best way to take care of a useless post, a post that offends you, is rude or was asked before, is to not post to it and let it slip away to oblivion. We all know this.

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Chris Lockwood

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Julian Lockhart

BTW as a recruiter in a past life I asked many people how much do they make, Most of the time it was not an issue. Other times people said I'm not comfortable sharing that. That's OK too.

This notion that it is rude to ask how much someone makes is "made up"(culturally).

Well, obviously as a recruiter you would have a valid reason for asking someone about income. That's different from walking up to someone you don't know and asking what they make.

A gynecologist can get away with asking women to do things that would be considered rude on the street.

And isn't everything that is considered rude that way because of cultural reasons? How else would something get into that category?

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keyaziz

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood

Well, obviously as a recruiter you would have a valid reason for asking someone about income. That's different from walking up to someone you don't know and asking what they make.

A gynecologist can get away with asking women to do things that would be considered rude on the street.

And isn't everything that is considered rude that way because of cultural reasons? How else would something get into that category?

If it was a cultural thing wouldnt everyone in that culture agree to it being rude?

I dont think its a rude question and I am from the UK but many others on here from the UK think it is rude.

I went to Iowa for 9 months before I went to Uni and I asked my host family how much their house was..they considered it rude, so I apologised. I dont think its rude at all and I didnt even realise until I asked my host family it was considered rude to ask anything to do with money, assets etc.

Maybe its different regions...I dont know. I guess I dont view money that way. :|

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jan roos

16 years ago

Originally Posted by keyaziz

If it was a cultural thing wouldnt everyone in that culture agree to it being rude?

I dont think its a rude question and I am from the UK but many others on here from the UK think it is rude.

I went to Iowa for 9 months before I went to Uni and I asked my host family how much their house was..they considered it rude, so I apologised. I dont think its rude at all and I didnt even realise until I asked my host family it was considered rude to ask anything to do with money, assets etc.

Maybe its different regions...I dont know. I guess I dont view money that way. :|

Exactly the same way I feel.

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Chris Lockwood 16 years ago

Originally Posted by keyaziz

If it was a cultural thing wouldnt everyone in that culture agree to it being rude?

If that's the standard, then nothing is cultural. Is there anything that every single person in a culture agrees on?
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- Aaron Bennett 16 years ago
  
  I understand the resoning behind your question, and can appreciate it. I certainly don't think it is an offhanded curiosity with the number of people so eager to talk about the massive amount of income they generate online.
  
  Be weary of the answers, as you have seen...Remember, there is a "cost of sale", this means that some may post how much they "made", and others will say they made 100k, however, spent 70k to get there, which can be fairly normal. Hey, I wouldn't complain about an extra 30k yr...
  
  To answer your question, yes, I make about that...But NOT online. Most of my money is made from flat out brick & mortar sales/marketing training, and I am working to capitalize on online opportunity. I have sold over 1.9mil. in gross product in the last 7months, but it would be a complete lie to say I "made" that money, as I most certainly didn't - would've been great though
  
  I will tell you this. Online advertising is pennies on the dollar what it is in outside markets. I can spend $100 in bulk mailers to get what $3.00 in PPC clicks would get in terms of qualified prospects. Not to mention, the number of buyers going online far outweighs the number of advertisers heading this direction at this time (as hard as that may be to believe)
  
  Keep focused, keep passionate, develop a game plan, and work hard. A good place to start would be to identify exactly how much product you need to sell to get to YOUR 100K, and start hitting it...
  
  Learn by doing and researching. Accept mistakes as it is a general part of business, and most certainly...good luck...
  
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- eshera 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood
  
  If that's the standard, then nothing is cultural. Is there anything that every single person in a culture agrees on?
  
  There is so much truth here....you have to listen before you can learn...you have 2 ears on one mouth...as said before on this forum...
  
  Use them in proportion....
  
  And, yes, there is one universal...SMILES!!!
  
  (Don't jump on me...it is true and getting darn late!)
  
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- keyaziz 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood
  
  If that's the standard, then nothing is cultural. Is there anything that every single person in a culture agrees on?
  
  No but surely the majority would agree. In my experience with this particular sort of question I always seem to come across a more 50/50 split regardless of where anyone is in the world..so I wouldnt classify it cultural.
  
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Mike McBride

16 years ago

PS the best way to take care of a useless post, a post that offends you, is rude or was asked before, is to not post to it and let it slip away to oblivion. We all know this.

It's an interesting dynamic, how almost all of those who propose to tell us how to do things here are newcomers to IM and this forum - some with as few as four posts.

I'm NOT saying you're not entitled to an opinion or expressing it. I am saying that perhaps it's wiser to listen and learn to those whom you are supposedly here to listen to and learn from. You may want to do business with them someday.

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Julian Lockhart 16 years ago

... - some with as few as four posts.

I better get to work!

4 posts + 1

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Topgunb

16 years ago

Hi, True great question, wrong platform.

Just imagine, the security risk far out weigh the pat on the back.
Not everyone has great motives when they read how much you make. You may come home and find your family held for ransom for some of it. The warrior way is based on mutual respect.

Like I said the platform is wrong. If someone where to send me an email with 15 questions explaining that it was to be used as research for a book on how to make $$$$$$ per year, I would answer the question.

Most Internet marketers are very private individuals who would answer a question when asked in the right environment like ... on Oprah ... Everything is marketing... marketing is everything.

Like I say great question ....

On this platform I would please the 5th.

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Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Topgunb

Like I said the platform is wrong.

Brian

Actually, the platform is more right than most others. This is a forum about internet marketing, making money, how to make money, and selling things to make money. That's what makes the question more appropriate here than just asking a random neighbor at a party how much he makes. Perspective and timing, people. The guy didn't ask for a tax return, and he didn't "demand" anything, as one poster put it.

Frankly, I can relate to the question. No one wants to invest a lot of time and money in something that doesn't work, and he's afraid of doing just that. That's why he asked the question....to try and find out what does work. Wasting time on something that cannot work will not make you money, no matter how hard you work, or how much you believe.

Why can't people just answer just like those above?

What's wrong with the question? If you think it's not worth answering, then why bother posting a response?

Maybe they can't help themselves because it's a painful reminder that they aren't making quite as much as they want others to believe they are. Just a guess though.

I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again: folks, it isn't necessary to keep that stick up your butt 24/7. You can take it out every now and then.

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Steven Wagenheim 16 years ago

I didn't know how to respond to this thread until I read my dear friend
Dr. Mani's reply. He said it so much more beautifully than I ever could...with
all the articles I've written.

Shafiq, would it be fair to say that Donald Trump has made and will continue
making a lot of money? I think that's a fair assumption.

Now, having said that, the fact that he does make a lot money (much more
than $100,000 a year) does it make any bit of difference to me? Am I going
to make that kind of money just because he does? Even if I were to follow
his exact path (provided I could even figure out what it was) I may not
have his success. Why? I probably won't meet the same people that he met.
I probably don't have the same advantages that he had. I may not have
the same drive and ambition that he had.

As Dr. Mani said, there is no "hand me down recipe" for success. Each
person is going to find their success in their own time. And whether I make
100K or 1K doesn't mean anything to your success.

As for the rest of the issues in this thread, I'm not going to comment on
them.

I wish you the very best of success with whatever you do.
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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by blackhatcat

Frankly, I can relate to the question. No one wants to invest a lot of time and money in something that doesn't work, and he's afraid of doing just that. That's why he asked the question....to try and find out what does work. Wasting time on something that cannot work will not make you money, no matter how hard you work, or how much you believe.

Yes, I agree with you. Although belief can produce result, but blind faith and following wrong path can't produce positive result. Hard labor is a nice thing. But only hard labor can't make a man successful if he follow wrong path. We need to follow right path what was followed by the successful men and should take action with smart works.

Many self development guru telling us how to be rich. But often we see they haven't made lots of wealth/money in their life except teaching sells. Following their advice, either we'll have to be another guru like him which is cheating or we'll have to be failure. Theory and practical knowledge is not same. I am an action oriented guy. There is no problem with me to take action. So now I need a right path from a successful man who really achieved it. This is the reason of posting this topic.

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John Willer

16 years ago

I don't think there is anything wrong asking that question on a business forum...

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jan roos

16 years ago

All the guy asked was if there are really people on this forum that makes 100K or more per year.

Now in my opinion that question is very legitimate. You see threads in this forum all day long about :how I made $388 in 20 minutes" etc etc.

Whats so wrong about saying " hey dude I make over 100K a year and it took me 4 years and here is how I did it and etc etc."?

This is not supposed to be some debate over who lives where etc. It's a simple staright forward question do you make 100K or more or not? whether you want to post or not is up to you.

I completely understands that the Op wants some straight talk here from warriors who is doing it for real after reading info product after info product with pictures of people standing next to their ferrari's etc.

I will start by saying thta I know it is possible to make well over 100K per year if you put your mind to it and if you don't give up and take massive action.

I don't make even close to that right now but it won't be long before I get there I'm sure of it.

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kindsvater

16 years ago

Typical Warrior thread, someone asks a very straightforward question and lots of offbeat responses, and comments about how it could be done or speculation that others may have done it. Let me tell you, its extremely frustrating to make a post seeking specific information and to quickly receive responses like that.

So let me start being direct.

Yes. Well over $100k from Internet marketing. (No cheating here, I'm not including the law office.) That is net, after all expenses, including ppc.

How I did it.

Selling own products. Here I have a hard to enter niche due to my legal expertise. But I also have PLR / Open Source products I have added to and converted into my own unique products.

Affiliate marketing. Creating small websites targeted to long-tail keywords that are easy to get first page seo rankings in Google. And testing ppc on every merchant program I can find to evaluate what sells and what does not, what is profitable and what is not.

Heck of a lot of work to be sure.

Best advice. Ignore most of what you read on the forum. (Ironic, I know.) Ignore every guru, especially if they only have products they "pump and dump" to the Internet marketing crowd every so often.

Find every post by Allen Says, including those archived (and those archives that have been archived). Search on the net for everything he has written. Buy it, read it, and apply it.

Other good information, even though getting old, still very informative - anything written by Terry Dean.

Finally, create projects / websites that are not a replacement for your current job. Do something that is done once it is done, perhaps with periodic updating, and that is it. I have walked away from websites generating hundreds per month because they required a regular time commitment. That allows you time to build your empire.

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Steven Wagenheim

16 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

Typical Warrior thread, someone asks a very straightforward question and lots of offbeat responses, and comments about how it could be done or speculation that others may have done it. Let me tell you, its extremely frustrating to make a post seeking specific information and to quickly receive responses like that.

So let me start being direct.

Yes. Well over $100k from Internet marketing. (No cheating here, I'm not including the law office.) That is net, after all expenses, including ppc.

How I did it.

Selling own products. Here I have a hard to enter niche due to my legal expertise. But I also have PLR / Open Source products I have added to and converted into my own unique products.

Affiliate marketing. Creating small websites targeted to long-tail keywords that are easy to get first page seo rankings in Google. And testing ppc on every merchant program I can find to evaluate what sells and what does not, what is profitable and what is not.

Heck of a lot of work to be sure.

Best advice. Ignore most of what you read on the forum. (Ironic, I know.) Ignore every guru, especially if they only have products they "pump and dump" to the Internet marketing crowd every so often.

Find every post by Allen Says, including those archived (and those archives that have been archived). Search on the net for everything he has written. Buy it, read it, and apply it.

Other good information, even though getting old, still very informative - anything written by Terry Dean.

Finally, create projects / websites that are not a replacement for your current job. Do something that is done once it is done, perhaps with periodic updating, and that is it. I have walked away from websites generating hundreds per month because they required a regular time commitment. That allows you time to build your empire.

Brian, the reason I didn't get into the long drawn out "here's how much I
make" thing is because my "how much I make posts" are all over this
forum. Everybody knows how much I make and they also know how hard
I work to make it. My business model is not for the lazy and I didn't want
to lead this guy down a path that would be very difficult to duplicate at
this level. Sure, for a modest monthly income, it's great. But to take it
to 6 figures, you have to bust your butt, which is why next year I am
severely changing my business model. I simply can't keep up this pace
anymore.

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

Typical Warrior thread, someone asks a very straightforward question and lots of offbeat responses, and comments about how it could be done or speculation that others may have done it. Let me tell you, its extremely frustrating to make a post seeking specific information and to quickly receive responses like that.

So let me start being direct.

Yes. Well over $100k from Internet marketing. (No cheating here, I'm not including the law office.) That is net, after all expenses, including ppc.

How I did it.

Selling own products. Here I have a hard to enter niche due to my legal expertise. But I also have PLR / Open Source products I have added to and converted into my own unique products.

Affiliate marketing. Creating small websites targeted to long-tail keywords that are easy to get first page seo rankings in Google. And testing ppc on every merchant program I can find to evaluate what sells and what does not, what is profitable and what is not.

Heck of a lot of work to be sure.

Best advice. Ignore most of what you read on the forum. (Ironic, I know.) Ignore every guru, especially if they only have products they "pump and dump" to the Internet marketing crowd every so often.

Find every post by Allen Says, including those archived (and those archives that have been archived). Search on the net for everything he has written. Buy it, read it, and apply it.

Other good information, even though getting old, still very informative - anything written by Terry Dean.

Finally, create projects / websites that are not a replacement for your current job. Do something that is done once it is done, perhaps with periodic updating, and that is it. I have walked away from websites generating hundreds per month because they required a regular time commitment. That allows you time to build your empire.

Your post is really informative and helpful. Thanks for your greatness.

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by jan roos

All the guy asked was if there are really people on this forum that makes 100K or more per year.

Now in my opinion that question is very legitimate. You see threads in this forum all day long about :how I made $388 in 20 minutes" etc etc.

Whats so wrong about saying " hey dude I make over 100K a year and it took me 4 years and here is how I did it and etc etc."?

This is not supposed to be some debate over who lives where etc. It's a simple staright forward question do you make 100K or more or not? whether you want to post or not is up to you.

I completely understands that the Op wants some straight talk here from warriors who is doing it for real after reading info product after info product with pictures of people standing next to their ferrari's etc.

I will start by saying thta I know it is possible to make well over 100K per year if you put your mind to it and if you don't give up and take massive action.

I don't make even close to that right now but it won't be long before I get there I'm sure of it.

Cheers.

Thank you for understanding the real purpose of this thread.

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David Cavanagh

16 years ago

Shafiq,

Most people in forums like the Warrior Forum will *NEVER* answer questions (like the one you asked) because of their belief system and upbringing.

A lot of westerners are brought up being told it's rude to ask how much a person earns, how old a lady is, what presents are going to be given out at Xmas time etc.

You mightn't find it offensive, so of course you feel bewildered when people fire these kind of comments back at you - but just remember, that some people do find it out of order and are offended, so it's perfectly fine for them to air their belief (or disbelief) back at you. Get my point Shafiq?

I tour the World teaching Internet Marketing... I've got the largest 'newbies' coaching program in the World with over 700 students from 9 countries... they've ALL paid me quite a few dollars to coach and mentor them... but I never disclose how much I've earned to any of them (nor have any of them ever asked me). It's not how much *I've* earned that they're really focused on.

One question I feel you need to ask yourself is this:

Do you really want to know what people earn? Or did you mean to ask something like "How many people in here have earned a very good income from internet marketing, do it exclusively without having to work 9 to 5 for a boss, and can show others how to duplicate the same system quickly and easily with proven documented results?"

Is that the kind of wording that you might have been thinking when you first posted your question? I think it probably was... let me know!

Good luck with whatever you do online,

David Cavanagh

PS... A few things for you to consider:

Results don't come from information... they come from the correct implementation of the information you've received from your coach, mentor or whoever.

Knowledge isn't power... it's the correct knowledge and implementation of it.

My words and thoughts today are being written to help you... not to put rubbish on you... they're being written to suggest you might like to ask better questions in order to ascertain better answers. I know you'd agree with me here right?

Last thing - I've earned a LOT more online than most internet marketers you've ever spoken to (verbally or written)... it's very easy to make 6 or 7 figures... that's not the hard part... what do you really feel the hard part is Shafiq?

Last last thing - (so it must be the last thing) - I've just started a group in the Warrior Forum called 'Getting Started On The Internet with David Cavanagh'. Maybe you'd like to join, participate and gain insights into discussions that could literally change your life? You'd be one of the first members because I've only *JUST* put in online (and it's for free).

( http://www.warriorforum.com/groups/g...-internet.html )

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rondo

16 years ago

I wouldn't be suprised if there were a few hundred members making 6 figures, and perhaps a few dozen making 7 figures.

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John Rowe

16 years ago

Shafiq,

When I was a boy, I asked my father what a Fireman earned.
My Dad looked at me and said, "I don't know. I once asked one,
but he told me I was rude, so I left him alone."

Then I asked him what a Plumber made. He said, "I don't know.
I once asked one of them too, but he told me I was rude, so I
left him alone"

"How about a Doctor?" I asked.

"Don't know that either son. Sorry. Years ago I asked a few of
them what they made, but they also told me I was rude, so I left
them alone."

Then I asked him about Lawyers, Airline Pilots,
Anesthesiologists, Surgeons, Orthodontists, Pediatricians,
Nurses, Chief Executives, Flight Engineers, Psychiatrists,
Dentists, Engineering Managers, Marketing Managers, Air
Traffic Controllers, Financial Managers, and Bank Tellers.

"Sorry again son. I stopped asking people about what they
earned, years ago, because it was rude."

I said, "Geez Dad, didn't anyone ever tell you how much they
were making?"

"Of course..." he said. "... but you'll have to give me a
minute before I tell you who. The buzzer you just heard
means the fries are done - and the boss gets angry when
I don't salt them right away."

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jdmitchell 16 years ago

Simple solution to all the madness:

Broke Warriors = "I'll believe it when I see it"

Rich Warriors = "I'll see it when I believe it"

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kierenm

16 years ago

Dudes: Some smart psychologists call it 'unresolved issues'. If you're posting crappy stuff to a question like this guys then you've definitely got 'em going on.
Sort it out boys..
There's no need for hard feelings, this is only a forum on the intranet..

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lakshaybehl

16 years ago

I AM FROM INDIA... So hear me out.

Every now and then comes along a person asking me my income... Most of these are my relatives, and to be honest none of them have cleared high school.

Look, well-mannered people here in India never talk about incomes, its considered downgrading.

I am an Indian, and I hate when people say that in India we openly ask about other peoples' incomes.

We never do... Just to OLD AUNTI-JI's do when a "KAL KA BACHCHA" (Kid yesterday, today earning) starts earning or gets a job which happens to be the most popular source of income for a majority of Indians.

But no one else does this kind of a thing.

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lexilexi

16 years ago

There's an old philosophy I like to follow.

"Only take advice from those who have successfully done what you are seeking to do."

So, based on that wise philosophy, I think Shafiq's question is smart and to the point. Why beat around the bush? This is a forum about making money, isn't it?

We're here to network and form alliances which are stronger than the sum of the parts, aren't we?

I would love to network with a mastermind group of people who are making $100k+ in my field. The formation of such a mastermind group seems to me to be a brilliant objective.

I am not yet making $100k per year, but am working with warrior-like determination and persistent study to be able to do so.

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by lexilexi

There's an old philosophy I like to follow.

"Only take advice from those who have successfully done what you are seeking to do."

So, based on that wise philosophy, I think Shafiq's question is smart and to the point. Why beat around the bush? This is a forum about making money, isn't it?

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borilbogoev

16 years ago

I am not their personal accountant, of course, but rumors say that:

Brian Clark, Yaro Starak, Darren Rose, Steve Pavlina, Amit Mehta and many others earn far more than $100K per year.

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Shafiq Kamal

16 years ago

Originally Posted by borilbogoev

I am not their personal accountant, of course, but rumors say that:

Brian Clark, Yaro Starak, Darren Rose, Steve Pavlina, Amit Mehta and many others earn far more than $100K per year.

Personally, I have talked with Steve Pavlina via email. He is very polite, helpful and friendly. I like him. Perhaps, that is the reason people like him. Once I have read one of his post where he have said how much he was earning. Why he did it? For bragging? No! Just to inspire us. Inspiring is one kind of helping others. And helping others is a good virtue.

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David Cavanagh

16 years ago

Shafiq,

I'm glad to see your thread has now 'changed' whereby people are giving you some advice and assistance, rather than jumping on you and seeing who's post can look sexier than the previous.

I sincerely hope you make a lot of money online... I trust you'll meet a lot of well meaning Warriors in here who can help and motivate you to move to the next level.

Internet marketing is great - you can make a LOT of money - you will make a LOT of great online and offline friends all around the World as well.

One small tip that might help you:

When I stopped focusing on how much money I could make, how many sales at an event I was going to generate, who I thought could afford my program, what other marketers were making.... you know what happened?

I did my first ever 7 figure year online - and I've now got several well named 'gurus' who turn to me for help every time they're about to launch something online (or offline).

Interesting don't you feel?

Good luck my friend,

David Cavanagh

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Louis Raven

16 years ago

I love the way most here crying over the OP's question will happily take pictures of their income cheques and post on the WWW as proof?

I read the OP and thought "yeah right I'm not giving away my info" but the question in hand does not offend me in the slightest of ways. I'm sure (judging by responses) the OP has offended some of you.

Just curious as to why? it's a question on a marketing discussion board, what kind of questions are you expecting?

I respect all that have been hurt/offended by the OP's question and my statements above are only my opinion. Maybe I've missed something?

Louis

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David Cavanagh

16 years ago

Warriors,

This thread is now turning into a bunch of people all saying what's right, wrong or indifferent... this is absolutely stupid... what's the need for any of this, now that it's all been said over and over again? Sometimes enough is enough don't you agree?

I don't normally talk figures (as I mentioned before) but here I go for the people going on and on in this thread:

Today, I made $39,783 USD online.

May I suggest it might be better if we all focused on helping others, putting the spark back into old customers who need to be 'brought back to life', and start generating new opt-ins from new suspects who hit our websites (in order to convert them into prospects, then customers, then affiliates), then we'd all be making a LOT more money online?

It really amazes me to see people making stacks of posts, and yet I guarantee most of the 'post makers' are struggling to make money online!

This isn't to boast... this isn't to say 'I'm better than you'... I'm just me... but focus on what is important... (have your say by all means)... but if you dislike what anyone says, why don't you just move onto a thread that you DO like?

It's so easy to slag someone off... so easy to yell and scream... simple to say it's 'my way or the highway'... but is what you're saying said to help someone, or is it just to inflate your ego?

One thing: Your ego ain't your amigo... just get onto what helps and not hinders!

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My biggest inspiration is john reese when he made $1000000 in a day selling 1000 copies for $1000, a internet marketing video course.

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ExRat 16 years ago

Hi David,

Your ego ain't your amigo

That's class, thank you. (swiped).
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Warrior Markets 16 years ago

The responses here have been, quite frankly, laughable. The overriding belief here seems to be 'refrain from doing certain things (asking about others' incomes) due to cultural reasons, because we don't do that here - here being where we live, because we own the Internet, after all.

People keep saying we don't do that here, ie, talk about incomes. Right.. so, does that mean that, although you don't talk about actual numbers (because that'd obviously be rude) in your society, you do go round telling people the fact that you 'make good money', as is the norm on this forum.

Do you also, in your society, go round telling people who are not as well off as you "to get off their asses and TAKE ACTION"?

How about telling people at your local bar/pub how you 'just made $2,000 with 15 minutes of work'? No? Then why do you do it here?

See the point? This is a .. wait for it... a... money-making forum! Internet Marketing, yes, but essentially it is about making money. So, please, let's refrain from making out that the rules that govern our lives ordinarily when it comes to money also apply here. They don't.

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- Magic Johnson 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Warrior Markets
  
  So, please, let's refrain from making out that the rules that govern our lives ordinarily when it comes to money also apply here. They don't.
  
  -WM
  
  Indeed it's a big difference between swimming in a pond and in open sea. It's something we could have in the back off your mind when we get in to discuss something.
  
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ildarius 16 years ago

Nice story, had me glued to the screen, get better!
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Todd Hallstrom

16 years ago

That is a great question, I have seen so many click bank views of people's account whether it is true or not I can tell you that I have and one thing I suggest is that you have your own product and then have other ways to create additional income depending on what niche is hot. Check out the video and see one way to do it.

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eholmlund

16 years ago

I make plenty more than that. I hate talking about my income, but I think it's acceptable for me to do so, since people rely on me to teach them how to make money online.

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bannerdemers

16 years ago

shafiq- I read this whole thread because it was a question I wondered about also.

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Shafiq Kamal 16 years ago

Originally Posted by bannerdemers

shafiq- I read this whole thread because it was a question I wondered about also.

Your Realization and feelings after reading?
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bannerdemers

16 years ago

no realizations.. but I think some were a little harsh on you.

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Shafiq Kamal 16 years ago

Originally Posted by bannerdemers

no realizations.. but I think some were a little harsh on you.

That should be avoid if we really wanna be great.
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- oneempowered 16 years ago
  
  I wonder how many of the critics on this thread are still reading it just to make sure they don't miss out on something valuable.
  
  It amazes me that some people can have over 1700 posts, of which, over 1650 add no value at all.
  
  Anyone who has participated in a forum as valuable as this one for that long should be making way more than 6 figures. We need only look at the quality of their posts to see why they are not.
  
  Shafiq,
  
  Believe only some of what you read, but all of what you test.
  
  The specifics of how I make money won't help you because my specific niches will be different from your niches.
  
  So, my advice is very general and simple.
  
  1) Stop buying IM products (until you know for sure you need it and how you'll use it).
  2) Find a problem or need that is shared by a lot of people.
  3) Find or create a solution to that problem.
  4) Use a variety of IM techniques to market the solution to those who need it.
  
  But wait ... There's more!
  
  Bonus advice 1) You will reap far more rewards if the niche you choose is something you are passionate about.
  Bonus advice 2) The more value you give, the more you'll get back.
  
  There is no "best way" to make a lot of money. There are many, many paths. A wise person will not choose the path that will make them rich the quickest, but will choose the path that is the most enriching for them personally.
  
  Ask yourself: What are you really good at doing? Passionate about? Able to teach others? What are you willing to become an expert at doing?
  
  It usually takes years to become an over-night success ... and failure is part of the process. As is learning from our failures.
  
  The wonderful thing about the internet is that we can fail for such a small investment.
  
  We can't reap anything worthwhile without first sowing (planting the seeds), then watering. Then, only in due time, comes the harvest.
  
  Quick Start Advice for those who act now:
  Identify problems, provide valuable solutions, repeat.
  
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kennethtang

16 years ago

Sorry, man. I'm saving that for my own tea bag. If I get a pretty good second-hand one, it could last for a few cuppas. Just have to squeeze-dry it after each use.

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

BTW, if you could be so kind as to buy my e-book on making millions. I really could use a cup of coffee tomorrow.

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myob 16 years ago

Mind Your Own Business

This is not meant to be rude; it is a sign I have on my car and in most of my advertising. Thanks to many of the warriors here (including Kevin Riley teachings from the dumpster) and countless others, I have achieved an income that few enjoy, and part of my business is to help others achieve success by literally minding their own business.

If you're asking this to know if it is possible, the answer is yes it IS possible to make that much and a whole lot more. I refuse to disclose my income, because you wouldn't believe it anyway, and it has nothing to do with your own success. My income is diversified in affiliate marketing, offline marketing seminars, Forex and stock trading, consulting, advertising services, writing, real estate investing, and niche marketing.

It is an achieveable and worthwhile goal, but requires planning, focus, and a whole lot of hard work. No one who has really achieved that level of success will ever tell you it was easy.
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Jagged

16 years ago

Hi Shafig,
Thank you for this thread. I'm not sure you got the answers you were looking for, but if you take just one thing from all this, let it be.....that you found out who you would ask advice from...and who NOT to ask.
I know I have...

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Jason Zalesky

16 years ago

Well I honestly dont know how much money I made this last year. Thats one of my goals this year to keep better books for myself instead of letting someone else do it.

But when someone asks this it shouldnt be something that looked at as a bad question. I know I had this same quesiton when I first started off in Internet Marketing. The truth is that everyone has this question in their minds when they first start off. Its this just another scam or are people really making a living?

I would have to say there are a lot more people making 50k a year than 100k. This is not saying that 100k is not achievable but it takes time. Unless you are a programer or something that wrote a program everyone wants its going to take time and constant action.

Whats more of a reality if you have not skills at all but just learning what internet marketing is all about you could easily make 3 to 5 thousand a month after your first few months just by article marketing and promoting affiliate products. But the probelm with all of this is that most people give up to quickly and never still with a schedule and in return never make good money.

I once was in this same boat until I made a schedule and a goal for each day and before I knew it I was making around 3k a month just writing articles promoting products. Now I have reinvested that money and built a business. when you can start outsoucing you can start making the big bucks because then you can take on more.

Anyway more people who actually take action everyday I would say make between 50 to 100k and then the guys that have been doing it for several years now would be above the 100k mark.

My 2 cents,
Jason

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Jason Fenty

16 years ago

End of the day if the 6 figures is not going into your pocket...does it really matter?. Do I really care that someone half way around the world I dont even know just by a online screen name is making 6 figures a year? Not really because im more concerned about my own income and how I can better it.

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CPAmethods

16 years ago

I wouldn't think that many people make this amount but im finding out that alot of people actually are. Wish i was :/

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Matias1021

16 years ago

Thanks for this thread Shafiq Kamal, i now know to stay away from some of the people in the 1st page. Recognizing if people are REALLY making loads of money is a great 1st step. I "believed in myself", i "took action". I researched for hours, weeks on ways to make money online only for it to be a waste of time. Truth is theres scammers out there and theres outdated information.

From my experience the best thing i did was find out who the REAL money makers and follow their step by step courses and then implement it in your own way of course. I bought some teaching programs from Tristan Bull, hes legitimate and it's been a good starting point for me....

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Stuart Turnbull

16 years ago

Hi

A large part of business success (online or offline) is down to luck.

I find the harder I work the luckier I get!

Good luck

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Eric Lorence 16 years ago

I'm offended at the offense...

Oh sorry...

I do pretty well.

How did I do it?

Well not by wasting time on threads like these...

(Though it's fun once in a while)
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blayis

16 years ago

Me lol hardly working man

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JECKELLL 16 years ago

A lot of people out there who are showing you "Proof of earnings" are actually fake.
It has Actually been proven.
They can offline edit the files and change the figures on the page at will.
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WinsonYeung

16 years ago

sad to say, not for me currently

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oyruhere

16 years ago

Blimey ! as a terrible newbie I feel like I've stumbled into a right punch up. I can understand why Shafiq asked the question.

If your starting out along the road to freedom (as I like to imagine it when I'm reenacting it with my action men) then you soon realise that there's more to this internet marketing malarky than just trying to sell lumps of cheese over the internet (unless your a dairy producer of course). I guess Shafiq figures what's the point in putting in all this work if all the claims about income (and income is what we all seek let's be honest) are worthless.

Similarly, as an English man, I understand that a persons income is entirely their own business and no one elses. . . . .usually.

However in an industry where ClickBankk accounts and wild income claims are common place can any of us really be offended when somebody wants more 'proof'.

My advice for you Shafiq is to believe half of that which you see and nothing of that which you hear and make your own decisions based upon your own beliefs.

Now that's freedom. . . . . (ooh look I've gone all mystical)

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TLTheLiberator

16 years ago

I hear there are people faking pictures of their clickbank and paypal accounts in order to get sales.

What I love about doing business on the net is...

- If you can earn $100 per month you can earn $1,000 per month

- If you can $1,000 per month you can earn $10,000 per month

An internet based business is the Magna Carta opportunity of the 21st century.

Get busy and create another source of income for you and yours!

Hope This Helps!!

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