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FINAL UPDATE: Stop Paying Fiverr Providers for Faked Screen Shots

by tpw
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I ordered some tweets over at fiverr two weeks ago.

I was excited because I anticipated some exposure that might be able to go viral, if only the tweets found a larger audience.

Between the 5 people that I ordered tweets from, it looked like my story would be exposed to 900k potential viewers.

The first 3 people delivered the tweet and the proof.

The fourth sent me a screen shot that could not be verified on twitter itself. I rejected the job order, then the person shot me some excuse and canceled the transaction.

The fifth person sent me the exact same screen shot as #4 sent me, but under a different fiverr and twitter profile name.

Once again, the tweet could not be verified. I asked for a link to the actual tweet as proof of services rendered.

So the person sent a link to a tweet that did not exist. I rejected again.

I was sent another dead url for a profile that did not exist. We went back and forth several times.

Then tonight, I received a message from the seller telling me to accept the screen shot, because it was the only proof he could provide.

Did I mention that both screen shots referenced users that do not exist within Twitter, and the tweets could not be located via Twitter search or Google search?

I rejected the order again, informing this person that I would not pay for work that could not be proven to have been completed, and I would not pay on any job where fraudulent screen shots to prove the completion of the work ordered.

I am waiting on a response again.

How much do you want to bet that most people who buy from this person accept the screen shot at face value, without attempting to verify the information in the screen shot?

I bet that is the reason this person thinks they can bull**** me into hitting the Accept button on the job order...

If someone sends you a screen shot "verifying the work done", verify the accuracy of that screen shot!!!

Otherwise, you are allowing fraudulent sellers to keep selling fake results...
#faked #fiverr #paying #providers #screen #shots #stop
  • Profile picture of the author AdmiralGloom
    Thank you for the good info!

    I gave up on Fiverr a few months ago for something very similar.
    I kind find more professional work elsewhere.

    More expensive, yes.
    But in reality, for good quality, it is worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cicicpa
    I don't trust people on Fiverr promising to drive traffic to your site from FB or twitter for only $5, but Fiverr is good to find someone who can offer article writing, simple design etc...
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    • Profile picture of the author semmyw
      Originally Posted by cicicpa View Post

      I don't trust people on Fiverr promising to drive traffic to your site from FB or twitter for only $5, but Fiverr is good to find someone who can offer article writing, simple design etc...

      I agree with you, I only use fiver for writing article and some design stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
    The first 3 you got were real? Looks like the success rate is 60% (3 out of 5). I think it is still fine. I agree that other two were scammers but the overall benefit you got is still fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Orator
    Fiverr is like any other freelance site, you run the risk of being scammed. So that's why it's important to make sure your using your head when using Fiverr. On the whole I would recommend avoiding the social media section of fiverr, as it tends to be the most scammy.
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    • Profile picture of the author IcedSEO-CEO
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      Originally Posted by Orator View Post

      Fiverr is like any other freelance site, you run the risk of being scammed. So that's why it's important to make sure your using your head when using Fiverr. On the whole I would recommend avoiding the social media section of fiverr, as it tends to be the most scammy.
      I think the backlinks section works well there, I have been using it and for one thing, they will always send the profile links or whatever links created and you can check it out yourself.

      I also got scammed on the fiverr facebook fanpage gigs where I got not even 1 single like and it was like the page never existed, I already had my hopes on getting like 20,000 fans if it converted just about 1% from the amount of gigs I bought.

      I will say stir clear of their twitter and facebook offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author mysterrio
    I think that a lot of people on there do not even know how to do screen shots. However, if they are scam-ers there should be a way to report them. I don't care if it is $1000 or $5 they should do whatever they can to please their customers with in reason. It does not look like your request is unreasonable.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Thanks for sharing this, Bill. It's just common sense to verify the work of freelancers that we order work form, especially on Fiverr and sites similar to it, and your recent experience only validates this. You should never take these services for granted, especially so on sites like Fiverr, where there are probably many scam artists out there who think they can get away with slipshod or fraudulent work just because of the low prices.
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  • Profile picture of the author rroxx
    Please not not everyone are scammers in fiverr, you need to check the feedback before ordering a gig Im also a fiverr user i have worked for more than 300 job from past 4 months.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by rroxx View Post

      Please not not everyone are scammers in fiverr, you need to check the feedback before ordering a gig Im also a fiverr user i have worked for more than 300 job from past 4 months.

      I am not trashing everyone on fiverr. 3 out of 5 did right by me.

      I am only advising people to not trust the screen shots, without first validating the information contained in the screen shots.

      As Ronald Reagan was fond of saying when dealing with Mikhail Gorbachev, "Trust, but verify."
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        I am not trashing everyone on fiverr. 3 out of 5 did right by me.

        I am only advising people to not trust the screen shots, without first validating the information contained in the screen shots.

        As Ronald Reagan was fond of saying when dealing with Mikhail Gorbachev, "Trust, but verify."
        Bill, I think this especially important to do when ordering inexpensive services, because there is the inevitable strong temptation for the freelancer to cut corners with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author garywynder
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    I ordered some tweets over at fiverr two weeks ago.

    I was excited because I anticipated some exposure that might be able to go viral, if only the tweets found a larger audience.

    Between the 5 people that I ordered tweets from, it looked like my story would be exposed to 900k potential viewers.

    The first 3 people delivered the tweet and the proof.

    The fourth sent me a screen shot that could not be verified on twitter itself. I rejected the job order, then the person shot me some excuse and canceled the transaction.

    The fifth person sent me the exact same screen shot as #4 sent me, but under a different fiverr and twitter profile name.

    Once again, the tweet could not be verified. I asked for a link to the actual tweet as proof of services rendered.

    So the person sent a link to a tweet that did not exist. I rejected again.

    I was sent another dead url for a profile that did not exist. We went back and forth several times.

    Then tonight, I received a message from the seller telling me to accept the screen shot, because it was the only proof he could provide.

    Did I mention that both screen shots referenced users that do not exist within Twitter, and the tweets could not be located via Twitter search or Google search?

    I rejected the order again, informing this person that I would not pay for work that could not be proven to have been completed, and I would not pay on any job where fraudulent screen shots to prove the completion of the work ordered.

    I am waiting on a response again.

    How much do you want to bet that most people who buy from this person accept the screen shot at face value, without attempting to verify the information in the screen shot?

    I bet that is the reason this person thinks they can bull**** me into hitting the Accept button on the job order...

    If someone sends you a screen shot "verifying the work done", verify the accuracy of that screen shot!!!

    Otherwise, you are allowing fraudulent sellers to keep selling fake results...
    I think you are absolutely right to be VERY suspicious of these individuals (or should I say Parasites) operating online.

    Screenshots are used far too much on every sales page you read online, and I never take ANY of them seriously! They can be all too easily doctored and probably all too often are!

    Personally, I don't trust any of these 'screenshots' from any product or service being promoted online - because every Tom, Dick and Harry (and his Dog, and his Grandma, and his Mum. . . I'm sure you get my point) is using these screenshots to help them push their 'product' or 'service' that much more convincingly to their 'prospects', (and this includes many of these big-name 'gurus' too)!

    And I don't trust Fiverr myself, anyway. I've checked it out quite closely before, and I find myself reading too many bad user reviews from too many users on there confirming that the traffic they received (when using fiverr) is low quality, and rubbish, and didn't result in any leads or sales for them. . . and so on, and so on.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by garywynder View Post

      I've checked it out quite closely before, and I find myself reading too many bad user reviews from too many users on there confirming that the traffic they received (when using fiverr) is low quality, and rubbish, and didn't result in any leads or sales for them. . . and so on, and so on.

      In this case, both scammers came with good reviews.

      They probably got their great reviews from people who looked at the screen shots and assumed the work was real. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Diane S
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        In this case, both scammers came with good reviews.

        They probably got their great reviews from people who looked at the screen shots and assumed the work was real. :rolleyes:
        Thanks for pointing out that even a provider with good reviews needs to remain suspect until proven trustworthy.... cynical, for sure, but it is the only way to get value for your outsourcing dollars.

        Thanks for the heads up on this!
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by Diane S View Post

          Thanks for pointing out that even a provider with good reviews needs to remain suspect until proven trustworthy.... cynical, for sure, but it is the only way to get value for your outsourcing dollars.

          Thanks for the heads up on this!
          This should apply to anything and everything that we outsource, because ultimately what we outsource needs to generate a positive ROI, and if the work is not being done properly then we all know what effect that would have on it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Williams
    Thanks for sharing this! I personally haven`t hired people from there for many different tasks. A few I had for article writing delivered very good quality work.

    I also find Fiverr to be a perfect place to find a virtual assistant for some specific tasks. You usually get a bunch of responses to your inquiry, 1 out of 10-15 gets your attention, and from there, you can get 1 good person out of 3-4 you communicate with. I was a little surprised to find how cheaply English speaking people can work for - and they can do a good job for that!
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ausin
    Good advice.

    I always check if the provider has done his job. Outsourcing a lot has taught me not to trust ANY provider, even if we have a history together.
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  • Profile picture of the author nerrutis
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    I ordered some tweets over at fiverr two weeks ago.

    I was excited because I anticipated some exposure that might be able to go viral, if only the tweets found a larger audience.

    Between the 5 people that I ordered tweets from, it looked like my story would be exposed to 900k potential viewers.

    The first 3 people delivered the tweet and the proof.

    The fourth sent me a screen shot that could not be verified on twitter itself. I rejected the job order, then the person shot me some excuse and canceled the transaction.

    The fifth person sent me the exact same screen shot as #4 sent me, but under a different fiverr and twitter profile name.

    Once again, the tweet could not be verified. I asked for a link to the actual tweet as proof of services rendered.

    So the person sent a link to a tweet that did not exist. I rejected again.

    I was sent another dead url for a profile that did not exist. We went back and forth several times.

    Then tonight, I received a message from the seller telling me to accept the screen shot, because it was the only proof he could provide.

    Did I mention that both screen shots referenced users that do not exist within Twitter, and the tweets could not be located via Twitter search or Google search?

    I rejected the order again, informing this person that I would not pay for work that could not be proven to have been completed, and I would not pay on any job where fraudulent screen shots to prove the completion of the work ordered.

    I am waiting on a response again.

    How much do you want to bet that most people who buy from this person accept the screen shot at face value, without attempting to verify the information in the screen shot?

    I bet that is the reason this person thinks they can bull**** me into hitting the Accept button on the job order...

    If someone sends you a screen shot "verifying the work done", verify the accuracy of that screen shot!!!

    Otherwise, you are allowing fraudulent sellers to keep selling fake results...
    Of course you right!
    Its impossible to deliver quality for such a low price, and even if it were real visitors, that would be scammed ones, as every seller has 200 300 or 400 hundred tweets, so it not worth the price 100% waste of money.
    Only some tangible products will deliver value.
    Thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by nerrutis View Post

      Of course you right!
      Its impossible to deliver quality for such a low price, and even if it were real visitors, that would be scammed ones, as every seller has 200 300 or 400 hundred tweets, so it not worth the price 100% waste of money.
      Only some tangible products will deliver value.
      Thank you

      I wasn't paying for traffic. I was paying for a tweet to an audience.

      If the guy could have delivered on this item that would have taken 30 seconds to do, I would have got the value I expected from it.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        I wasn't paying for traffic. I was paying for a tweet to an audience.

        If the guy could have delivered on this item that would have taken 30 seconds to do, I would have got the value I expected from it.
        Bill, if you don't mind elaborating, what kind of results did you experience with the 3 successful tweets?
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          Bill, if you don't mind elaborating, what kind of results did you experience with the 3 successful tweets?
          I was tweeted on 3 lists that reach 100k total.

          Those three tweets are verified, but I received no retweets which was my goal for this test.

          I was running a SEO test to see if I could use twitter to push a page up in the search results.

          On one variation, I reached #4. On the second variation, I reached #11.

          But both variations only survived for one week towards the top of Google, on a keyword phrase that was extremely competitive.

          I think if I could have gotten some viral legs on retweets, that I could have probably held my ground longer.

          The test performed well, but it lacked stamina.
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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            I was tweeted on 3 lists that reach 100k total.

            Those three tweets are verified, but I received no retweets which was my goal for this test.

            I was running a SEO test to see if I could use twitter to push a page up in the search results.

            On one variation, I reached #4. On the second variation, I reached #11.

            But both variations only survived for one week towards the top of Google, on a keyword phrase that was extremely competitive.

            I think if I could have gotten some viral legs on retweets, that I could have probably held my ground longer.

            The test performed well, but it lacked stamina.
            Thanks Bill, so it provided some short-term results, but could have resulted in some further longevity if retweets had occurred.

            Still, being on page one for a very competitive keyword with a nominal investment of $5 isn't bad at all, and the next time you try this, you could very well receive retweets.
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            • Profile picture of the author tpw
              Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

              Thanks Bill, so it provided some short-term results, but could have resulted in some further longevity if retweets had occurred.

              Still, being on page one for a very competitive keyword with a nominal investment of $5 isn't bad at all, and the next time you try this, you could very well receive retweets.

              Yeah. Next time I will make my viral tweet much more attractive to regular people.
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              • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                Yeah. Next time I will make my viral tweet much more attractive to regular people.
                Yes, you'd basically be writing a long headline that's 140 characters long, and I'm sure you'll do well in creating one that's catchy and maybe even controversial. Is this niche an evergreen and mainstream one?
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                  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                    Originally Posted by johngibb123 View Post

                    Not all people in Fiverr are bad,.. There are some people who really do their job well.. Whereever U go, U definitely find some gud guys and some worst fellows.. Its common!

                    John
                    Exactly, you just need to do your due diligence and verify all the work that you order. As long as you do this, you should not really get 'taken' on sites like Fiverr.
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    wow, I guess most people are more gullible than we think!
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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    I have had the same exact issue! It's like half the people there provide honest service, and the other half are total liars and fakers!! So sad...


    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    I ordered some tweets over at fiverr two weeks ago.

    I was excited because I anticipated some exposure that might be able to go viral, if only the tweets found a larger audience.

    Between the 5 people that I ordered tweets from, it looked like my story would be exposed to 900k potential viewers.

    The first 3 people delivered the tweet and the proof.

    The fourth sent me a screen shot that could not be verified on twitter itself. I rejected the job order, then the person shot me some excuse and canceled the transaction.

    The fifth person sent me the exact same screen shot as #4 sent me, but under a different fiverr and twitter profile name.

    Once again, the tweet could not be verified. I asked for a link to the actual tweet as proof of services rendered.

    So the person sent a link to a tweet that did not exist. I rejected again.

    I was sent another dead url for a profile that did not exist. We went back and forth several times.

    Then tonight, I received a message from the seller telling me to accept the screen shot, because it was the only proof he could provide.

    Did I mention that both screen shots referenced users that do not exist within Twitter, and the tweets could not be located via Twitter search or Google search?

    I rejected the order again, informing this person that I would not pay for work that could not be proven to have been completed, and I would not pay on any job where fraudulent screen shots to prove the completion of the work ordered.

    I am waiting on a response again.

    How much do you want to bet that most people who buy from this person accept the screen shot at face value, without attempting to verify the information in the screen shot?

    I bet that is the reason this person thinks they can bull**** me into hitting the Accept button on the job order...

    If someone sends you a screen shot "verifying the work done", verify the accuracy of that screen shot!!!

    Otherwise, you are allowing fraudulent sellers to keep selling fake results...
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  • Profile picture of the author GoGetta
    I haven't had this issue but can see how easy this can happen.

    I have ordered off of Fiverr and been disapointed with anything social marketing based. Backlinks, however, there is a mini goldmine on here if you dig enough! ; )

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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Saw the title of this thread and laughed because it is so true. Let's face it, if half the things being offered on fiverr were actually of the quality or substance they claim to be, then they wouldn't need to be sitting their on fiverr selling the services.

    I mistakenly used fiverr about half a year ago for some Facebook marketing and the screenshots I got back had definitely been altered - it was so obvious. I ended up rejecting most of the gigs and got all my money back.

    A few of the ones I questioned the gig holders just responded things like... "Fine, if you don't believe me I'll refund your money...". Hmm, says something doesn't it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Orator
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Saw the title of this thread and laughed because it is so true. Let's face it, if half the things being offered on fiverr were actually of the quality or substance they claim to be, then they wouldn't need to be sitting their on fiverr selling the services.

      I mistakenly used fiverr about half a year ago for some Facebook marketing and the screenshots I got back had definitely been altered - it was so obvious. I ended up rejecting most of the gigs and got all my money back.

      A few of the ones I questioned the gig holders just responded things like... "Fine, if you don't believe me I'll refund your money...". Hmm, says something doesn't it.
      I think you're generalizing a bit, and I think that's a mistake. I do a lot of work on Fiverr, and all of my work is of quality and substance. There are plenty of people who do work on fiverr who do great work.

      The issue is people not using their brains when it comes to ordering gigs, and doing their due diligence.
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      • Profile picture of the author Vogin
        From my experience, I am VERY skeptical when someone promises to deliver large number of fans or followers or whatever. Been there, build Twitter account with thousands of followers... with exactly useless response rate.

        I don't really see what use would I have for large, yet apathetic crowd - didn't work out well last time. To be honest, I'm glad to see the current amount of 9 FB fans, because I know they clicked by themselves and they care.

        I am however a human and humans can easily be mistaken, so I'm planning to set up a small website and try to "buy" some FB fans - my expectations are so low that I can be only positively surprised and let's face it, $5 is really not important amount of money.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Orator View Post

        I think you're generalizing a bit, and I think that's a mistake. I do a lot of work on Fiverr, and all of my work is of quality and substance. There are plenty of people who do work on fiverr who do great work.

        The issue is people not using their brains when it comes to ordering gigs, and doing their due diligence.
        It'd be a mistake to make sweeping generalizations about any website or marketplace, as the OP's experiences have borne out. Instead, it'd be more prudent to evaluate each provider on an individual basis, because otherwise you'd be cheating yourself out of some really good deals to be had in the Fiverr marketplace.
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    Do you mind sharing the 3 that were honest and did as promised? Also, what were your results? Myself and I'm sure some other Warriors would like to know.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author kjblitz
    I think those tweets are useless even if they were real. I once had one of those guys in fiverr do it for me. Lots of clicks but zero conversion...
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    The only time I would ever use the Facebook or Twitter services like that would be to get some initial fans and create some social proof on a new fan page, so those arriving at the page don't see 0 fans.

    For that I would just use a service like Subvert and Profit. I have used them in the past and they delivered the number of fans as promised in only a day or 2. As I say, I'm not dumb. I didn't expect any interaction from these fans, they were only there for cosmetic reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Harper
    The lower the pay rate, the more likely it is that providers will cut corners, turn in shoddy work, or cheat.
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    • Profile picture of the author King Louie
      I thought that some people pay Fiverr providers to create fake screenshots.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Content Winner View Post

        I thought that some people pay Fiverr providers to create fake screenshots.

        LOL

        I am out of Thanks buttons, until later this evening.
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    Thank you for the great advice..
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  • Profile picture of the author Daws0n
    I would say that its the responsibility of the buyer to verify work before ordering
    whether its fiverr or any other freelance site (chances are always to get scammed, but
    we can work out to minimize those chances)

    Another thing to note is: i don't think you should expect quality work in as cheap as $5
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  • Profile picture of the author greeneyeddame
    Wow, thanks for the heads up. I was thinking about trying out a twitter or facebook blast, but I never considered anybody would fake the results. I'm pretty sure that I'm still going to try it out but I'll definitely be checking the work.
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    For backlinks they are a bargain. I agree with the whole social networking thing there is a lot of scammers hoping to make an easy buck. Just be aware of scammers like anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    UPDATE:

    My Fiverr provider has responded again with the following:

    I have given you the link twice with the proof of the screenshot. I have already done what i paid for.
    I have responded again:

    Dead links and fake screen shots do not count for proof of work completed.
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    • Profile picture of the author William Prawira
      Hi there, sorry for being curious,

      If I'm buying others services to tweet my message, how can I know that they did? is it by seing the report of my short URLs ? or is there any other way to see that it's real, and not just a fake one as you mentioned before?
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by wp0102 View Post

        Hi there, sorry for being curious,

        If I'm buying others services to tweet my message, how can I know that they did? is it by seing the report of my short URLs ? or is there any other way to see that it's real, and not just a fake one as you mentioned before?

        In my case, it was too easy to discover.

        The screen shot showed the tweet coming from profile ***, which does not exist in the Twitter system.

        The seller compounded it by sending me links for the profile, which also do not exist.

        Ask the seller to send you the URL for the individual tweet. Then verify the number of followers to be as advertised, looking at the statistics for the tweeting account.

        All other sellers that I bought from who proved they had done the work did send me the actual URL of the individual tweet.
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        • Profile picture of the author William Prawira
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          In my case, it was too easy to discover.

          The screen shot showed the tweet coming from profile ***, which does not exist in the Twitter system.

          The seller compounded it by sending me links for the profile, which also do not exist.

          Ask the seller to send you the URL for the individual tweet. Then verify the number of followers to be as advertised, looking at the statistics for the tweeting account.

          All other sellers that I bought from who proved they had done the work did send me the actual URL of the individual tweet.
          Thanks for the info. I'm really picking up something here and there in the forum. All I need is to sum it up and I might be on my way to the right path
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          In my case, it was too easy to discover.

          The screen shot showed the tweet coming from profile ***, which does not exist in the Twitter system.

          The seller compounded it by sending me links for the profile, which also do not exist.

          Ask the seller to send you the URL for the individual tweet. Then verify the number of followers to be as advertised, looking at the statistics for the tweeting account.

          All other sellers that I bought from who proved they had done the work did send me the actual URL of the individual tweet.
          Bill, from what we've seen so far it has become obvious that we should only order gigs/services where the results are independently verifiable, otherwise it'd be nothing more than a crapshoot when dealing with freelancers on Fiverr, or anywhere else for that matter.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Hayes
    Another thing to watch in fiverr is that you can your site get banned by akismet for scrapebox gigs.
    These people offer low cost services and it sounds appealing but there can be problems attached to it too.
    Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
    Some of the completed works are non traceable.

    I had invites for a facebook page job done on fiverr, the guy had an excellent sales pitch, went through some logic and statistics and then when it came to he delivered only a few out of the promised 1000s. His argument is that the page was not optimized for the audience blah blah blah, but I use another guy who consistently gets me 1000 followers no matter what the page is about.

    With some of these services and not just on fiverr you can only expect the deliverables and not the results but in this case that Bill is talking about is a blatant rip-off for these guys 'off with their heads'
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    • Profile picture of the author kasimarie
      Originally Posted by AzzamS View Post

      Some of the completed works are non traceable.

      ...but I use another guy who consistently gets me 1000 followers no matter what the page is about.
      Care to share your fiverr connection? I've ordered a few gigs for facebook likes but the results were lackluster. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    My Fiverr supplier is still insisting that I should pay him for work faked...

    His last communication says, "Who says its fake screenshot?"

    I responded:

    I do. Your screen shot demonstrates accounts that do not exist in Twitter and tweets that do not exist in Twitter's database.

    It is time for you to bring Fiverr management in to moderate this transaction, because I am not going to pay you, unless Fiverr management tells me that I must do so in order to remain in good standing with them.

    Somehow, I don't think they will side with you on this matter.
    :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Kecia
    You have to give him an A+ for persistence. I can't believe he's still trying to receive a payment when it's so obvious he didn't complete the work requested.
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    Fiverr should ban all this cheaters!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author briancassingena
    I didn't think the problem was as bad as I had been hearing but I found a very obviously faked screenshot on a CB sales letter, it's on my blog (the link is in my sig)

    How can you trust any of those CB earnings "screenshots" after that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Duquette
    like I've said in the other thread, faking everything is just easy this day.
    thanks for sharing your experience Bill, I never use Fiverr, but yes, not just fiverr, in internet, when we got scammed, it's not someones fault, it's just us. moral of the story "be smart".

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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Hi Bill,

      Can't you just contact fiverr and tell them about this person and show them he's a scammer?

      As Kecia said, I also admire his persistence, he's chasing an amount of money that's not enough to buy me a nice pint of beer.:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        Hi Bill,

        Can't you just contact fiverr and tell them about this person and show them he's a scammer?

        As Kecia said, I also admire his persistence, he's chasing an amount of money that's not enough to buy me a nice pint of beer.:rolleyes:

        I am sure I could, but where is the fun in that.

        Think about it. The more time he wastes on me chasing his $4, the less time he is spending defrauding others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I've been thoroughly unimpressed by Fiverr vendors.

    I paid someone to do some images for me (rework existing ones) and even paid him a bonus upfront because he promised speedy delivery (a couple of days) - 2 weeks later still nothing provided and really bad communication.

    I guess it's the old adage of you get what you pay for - and we've seen it here sometimes when you get people who feel that if they don't charge much - you don't deserve to get much. So whatever they've promised is just to get the money and they can't deliver sometimes even if they want to - they just see it as easy money and then realise people get pissed when you don't actually deliver.

    Unfortunately a lot of newbies just pay and assume it was delivered.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I sent a customer support to Fiverr, explaining that this person was providing a fake screen shot as proof, on accounts that did not exist in Twitter, pointing to tweets that did not exist in Twitter.

    I also explained that the exact same scam had been run by another account, showing the same screen shot template as evidence of providing the work.

    Fiverr has refunded my money and deleted both scammer accounts from their system.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      I sent a customer support to Fiverr, explaining that this person was providing a fake screen shot as proof, on accounts that did not exist in Twitter, pointing to tweets that did not exist in Twitter.

      I also explained that the exact same scam had been run by another account, showing the same screen shot template as evidence of providing the work.

      Fiverr has refunded my money and deleted both scammer accounts from their system.
      Hahaa! Well done Bill.

      Mind you they've probably opened another account now .

      It's funny really, if the scammer had just given up, he could carry on scamming, but all for $5, the accounts been obliterated. Five whole dollars!

      That's greed for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    damn I had no idea that this was going on.

    I did not like the fact that people were sending in fake video testimonies for people for 5 dollars.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nisip
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    I tried several fiverr gigs with good feedbacks who promised traffic twitter/facebook, but they gave in the end on average 8 clicks for $5 which was pathetic.

    what were your experiences? How much traffic did you get for your 5$?
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  • Profile picture of the author Casper C
    If something is extremely beneficial yet so cheap to gain, a lot of people will buy it, and it becomes ineffective. It's often hard to take Fiverr seriously for outsourcing things. I've found a few hidden gems, but most of them have been taken down, probably because people with great talents and/or useful resources can go and make more money elsewhere. I can imagine it being very difficult to start upselling people who are only looking to pay $5 for something.

    It doesn't surprise me that Fiverr is full of scammers. Steer clear!
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    • Profile picture of the author Elion Makkink
      Originally Posted by Casper C View Post

      If something is extremely beneficial yet so cheap to gain, a lot of people will buy it, and it becomes ineffective. It's often hard to take Fiverr seriously for outsourcing things. I've found a few hidden gems, but most of them have been taken down, probably because people with great talents and/or useful resources can go and make more money elsewhere. I can imagine it being very difficult to start upselling people who are only looking to pay $5 for something.

      It doesn't surprise me that Fiverr is full of scammers. Steer clear!
      I agree. I did purchase a service of someone that answered yahoo questions for me with my url in it though. And it was delivered pretty good for $5
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    Tpw,

    You are one Warrior poster I respect, but I have to flip your argument on it's head:

    While it is wrong for them to fake screenshots, you have to ask yourself what you expect if you outsource on fiverr? Seriously!

    If you want quality tweets why not contact the owners of respected twitter accounts in your niche, offer them some decent money or a JV and get some real results.

    "Between the 5 people that I ordered tweets from, it looked like my story would be exposed to 900k potential viewers."

    $25 for 900k viewers. As they say on "The Real Hussle", (an English TV series about scams):

    If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

      While it is wrong for them to fake screenshots, you have to ask yourself what you expect if you outsource on fiverr? Seriously!

      If you want quality tweets why not contact the owners of respected twitter accounts in your niche, offer them some decent money or a JV and get some real results.

      "Between the 5 people that I ordered tweets from, it looked like my story would be exposed to 900k potential viewers."

      $25 for 900k viewers. As they say on "The Real Hussle", (an English TV series about scams):

      If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!

      Honestly, I only expected 5 tweets, rather than 3 tweets.

      Like I said previously, it was part of an SEO test, so I was not looking for traffic from those tweets at all. I just wanted my five tweets.
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      • Profile picture of the author theemperor
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        Honestly, I only expected 5 tweets, rather than 3 tweets.

        Like I said previously, it was part of an SEO test, so I was not looking for traffic from those tweets at all. I just wanted my five tweets.
        I know, but you mentioned a 900k audience. Or have I misunderstood?
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

          I know, but you mentioned a 900k audience. Or have I misunderstood?

          Yes and no.

          I was testing a principle that Matt Cutts laid out in connection to how they measure social media.

          A few months ago, Cutts said that they looked at accounts with more people following than being followed as accounts that had more value to Google's algorithm.

          I wanted to only tweet on accounts that had more people following, than the account owner was following him or herself.

          I figured those tweet offers met that criteria.

          Doing it manually would certainly be more effective, but also more time-consuming.
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          • Profile picture of the author theemperor
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            Yes and no.

            I was testing a principle that Matt Cutts laid out in connection to how they measure social media.

            A few months ago, Cutts said that they looked at accounts with more people following than being followed as accounts that had more value to Google's algorithm.

            I wanted to only tweet on accounts that had more people following, than the account owner was following him or herself.

            I figured those tweet offers met that criteria.

            Doing it manually would certainly be more effective, but also more time-consuming.
            That is very interesting.

            Could lead to a lot of automated twitter account creation, where these accounts are used to boost the followers of other accounts to give them more authority.

            Unless the algo looks at the 'followers followers', and their followers etc. Gulp!
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          • Profile picture of the author Jason Perez O'Connor
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            Yes and no.

            I was testing a principle that Matt Cutts laid out in connection to how they measure social media.

            A few months ago, Cutts said that they looked at accounts with more people following than being followed as accounts that had more value to Google's algorithm.

            I wanted to only tweet on accounts that had more people following, than the account owner was following him or herself.

            I figured those tweet offers met that criteria.

            Doing it manually would certainly be more effective, but also more time-consuming.
            Interesting. I'd completely forgotten about the whole payed tweets thing since my days as a Network Markerter.

            I'm surprised at the lack of clicks though. Of a potential crowed of 100k, only 5 clicked?

            Obviously you have to account for the times at which they are tweeted, time-zones and so forth.

            But I remember back when I had a huge following of 8 k followers. One tweet would give me clicks in the 100's at the very least.
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            • Profile picture of the author tpw
              Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor View Post

              Interesting. I'd completely forgotten about the whole payed tweets thing since my days as a Network Markerter.

              I'm surprised at the lack of clicks though. Of a potential crowed of 100k, only 5 clicked?

              Obviously you have to account for the times at which they are tweeted, time-zones and so forth.

              But I remember back when I had a huge following of 8 k followers. One tweet would give me clicks in the 100's at the very least.

              Time of day is definitely important in the Twitter game.

              Before the work day and at lunch time is definitely the best time to tweet, keeping in mind that volume is high during those periods, as evidenced by the fact that most often that is when their servers crash.

              The next best times are mornings and afternoons until 5pm EST.

              During business hours, excluding lunch time, volume is consistently high, just not so high to bring down the Twitter servers.

              When I did a lot of tweeting, I could generate 100 CTR's with nearly 5k followers, but that was circa 2009.
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              • Profile picture of the author Jason Perez O'Connor
                Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                Time of day is definitely important in the Twitter game.

                Before the work day and at lunch time is definitely the best time to tweet, keeping in mind that volume is high during those periods, as evidenced by the fact that most often that is when their servers crash.

                The next best times are mornings and afternoons until 5pm EST.

                During business hours, excluding lunch time, volume is consistently high, just not so high to bring down the Twitter servers.

                When I did a lot of tweeting, I could generate 100 CTR's with nearly 5k followers, but that was circa 2009.
                Yeah it was in July 2009 when I really started to use tweeting.

                Would you say there's still some potential to be had regarding payed tweets?
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                • Profile picture of the author tpw
                  Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor View Post

                  Yeah it was in July 2009 when I really started to use tweeting.

                  Would you say there's still some potential to be had regarding payed tweets?

                  If the Twitter account is targeted and active, there may yet be potential in paid tweets.

                  I am going to have to do some research and find out about official promoted tweets from Twitter itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielsteven
    It's def worth paying a few extra bucks from a "real" outsourcing site...in my opinion, i'll use fiverr for simple tasks like Ebook Cover creation
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    Thanks for this. I just had someone distribute flyers for me and they sent some great photos but I found it weird that I got only one conversion from 50 flyers!
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