There are bad people out there! Watch out!

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A bit disappointed at this time. Yesterday I cam up with a very nice domain name which was available. I don't know what went through my mind and to check its availablity I used some untrusted whois websites. I usually use domaintools.com but don't know what happened to me yesterday and I used some other websites (I was also looking for some suggestions, so I went for different ones).

I thought to register the domain name in the morning after waking up. Today morning the domain name was registered by some one else.

Moral: Either register the domain name immediately, or use some trusted site like domaintools
#bad #people #watch
  • Profile picture of the author linkbeasts
    That is a rather common thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
      Originally Posted by linkbeasts View Post

      That is a rather common thing.
      Happened to me few years ago too. But I totally ignored it as at that time and in that situation it wasn't really a big deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
    I always use whois.sc to check, never had problems.



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    • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
      Originally Posted by AverageGuy View Post

      I always use whois.sc to check, never had problems.



      david
      It is same as domaintools.com.

      Originally Posted by LastWarrior View Post

      But that's based on an assumption there is some under-handedness going on.

      I managed 300+ domains, buying, selling, trading, etc. I learned if you really want a domain, buy it NOW! Not because I think someone affiliated with the site-WhoIs will get/hold/kite the domain, but because there are literally thousands of domains registered every day and it doesn't seem unreasonable that the domain I'm interested in may/can/will be registered within minutes to a few days of my interest.

      You can also say:

      "They were able to take action based on my in-action."

      If someone did get that domain, you should see the WhoIs info on it within 48 hours. I suggest spending time thinking of alternative domains. You never know, you just may come up with one better.

      Good luck,

      LastWarrior
      I agree. But the people who registered that domain are the ones already identified by other Warrior Members in this thread. The domain name I liked also got registered automatically and hopefully it will drop in few days. I will wait for 2 weeks. If nothing happens, I will go ahead and search for some other good domain.
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      • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
        It happens every time.

        I have experienced such before sometime last year and developed a simple solution.

        I usually write out some of the domain names i may want to register on my desk top so what i usually do is to arm myself with my credit card whenever i want to search for the availability.

        If any is available, i register it that same minute without wasting time or signing out.

        I believe that many people do this as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author AccountCache
          Originally Posted by Devid Farah View Post

          It happens every time.

          I have experienced such before sometime last year and developed a simple solution.

          I usually write out some of the domain names i may want to register on my desk top so what i usually do is to arm myself with my credit card whenever i want to search for the availability.

          If any is available, i register it that same minute without wasting time or signing out.

          I believe that many people do this as well.
          That's exactly the way we do it, too.

          If you want it - get it now.
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  • Profile picture of the author williampaul
    better for you if check and then directly buy the domain.. don't wait too long..
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by williampaul View Post

      better for you if check and then directly buy the domain.. don't wait too long..
      Yep, if I find a domain I want, I get it right then and there.
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      • Profile picture of the author machia
        Also, if you intend to register a business name, be sure to buy the domain name first for ten bucks because afterwards it will likely cost thousands as soon as someone knows you're going to want it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Chances are it is a temporary registration and if you don't check it again for 10 days or so - it will be available then.

          That means you don't keep looking it up day after day - but you wait a while as if a temporary registration was done it will expire in 7-10 days.

          It happens a lot but it's totally preventable. When you find the domain you want register it immediately before leaving that site.

          Edit: Just noticed the title of the thread. It's not "bad people" - it's a bit underhanded but it's a third party business that's been done for a long time. When you look up a domain and it's available, you have first choice to register it. I know it's frustrating but until you register a domain it's up for grabs. If you are patient now you may still get the domain you want for a standard registration fee.

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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        Yep, if I find a domain I want, I get it right then and there.
        This is what you should always strive to do, especially if it's a domain name that you feel is crucial for your business. Many registrars have a quick checkout facility where you do not need to enter your credit card details each time when making a purchase (you place it on file with them), so this makes domain purchases a quick and painless process that can be usually completed in 30 seconds or less - this will expedite the procedure and make you more inclined to take action immediately when a good domain name presents itself!
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  • Profile picture of the author Headfirst
    Wait a week, it will be back. Registrars can pull it for a week and then return it... domain kiting or something like that...

    This scam has been around for ages.
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  • Profile picture of the author roley
    Snooze you lose
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
    Looks like I have to be patient now and see if they drop the domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Originally Posted by jugroo View Post

    A bit disappointed at this time. Yesterday I cam up with a very nice domain name which was available. I don't know what went through my mind and to check its availablity I used some untrusted whois websites. I usually use domaintools.com but don't know what happened to me yesterday and I used some other websites (I was also looking for some suggestions, so I went for different ones).

    I thought to register the domain name in the morning after waking up. Today morning the domain name was registered by some one else.

    Moral: Either register the domain name immediately, or use some trusted site like domaintools
    Let me see if I understand this logic...

    Someone else is a bad person because they were able
    to make a decision and take action... is that it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Let me see if I understand this logic...

      Someone else is a bad person because they were able
      to make a decision and take action... is that it?
      Nah. They were able to take action based on my action.
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      • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
        Originally Posted by jugroo View Post

        Nah. They were able to take action based on my action.
        But that's based on an assumption there is some under-handedness going on.

        I managed 300+ domains, buying, selling, trading, etc. I learned if you really want a domain, buy it NOW! Not because I think someone affiliated with the site-WhoIs will get/hold/kite the domain, but because there are literally thousands of domains registered every day and it doesn't seem unreasonable that the domain I'm interested in may/can/will be registered within minutes to a few days of my interest.

        You can also say:

        "They were able to take action based on my in-action."

        If someone did get that domain, you should see the WhoIs info on it within 48 hours. I suggest spending time thinking of alternative domains. You never know, you just may come up with one better.

        Good luck,

        LastWarrior
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Marketing Cheetah View Post

        Nah. They were able to take action based on my action.
        Actually, they were able to take action based on your inaction. Registering available domains does not make people bad.
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        • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Actually, they were able to take action based on your inaction. Registering available domains does not make people bad.
          I lost this thread and traced it using Google by searching for "based on your inaction" warriorforum as the keyphrase .

          I got a very similar domain which expired today. It is actually better than the one I lost in March.

          Thanks everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    You might have luck and can register the domain in a week or two. Often these domains are registered automatically. If they do not get type-in traffic within 5 days they are dumped and you can register again.
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  • Profile picture of the author steveo
    This is the worst and happened to me when I was looking to register a starcraft 2 domain site.
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  • Profile picture of the author AD25
    I never wait to register a domain that I like. Do it immediately.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjd6599
      I Have had that happen a couple of times at godaddy. I don't check them there anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I regularly check domains on GoDaddy and NameCheap and will often come back weeks or even a month later to purchase them. I've never had a problem like this. They have always still been available.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    I agree with Will, I always search on GoDaddy and have never had this happen.

    It sucks a bit but I guess you either dwell on it or move on and look for another - or as suggested wait a couple of weeks and see if it becomes available again. If that's the name you really want then I hope it does become available for you - good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
    Yeah I am also planning to move on and search for some other good domain. I will register this one too if it drops in weeks or months.

    Going to use namecheap search from now on.
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  • Profile picture of the author O0o0O
    Usually, I use trusted sites like Yahoo Domain Search, Moniker or GoDaddy. They're pretty much right on the money when it comes to finding a domain that is available. Try your hand at those services. They just may work for you too.
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  • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
    it is a normal thing, i think somebody out there was also doing the same research like you did. so it nothing serious.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christina Jo
    I use godaddy , they are also trusted ..
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  • Profile picture of the author webjedi
    I have always been afraid of someone 'looking over my shoulder' when I do searches and find great domain names.

    It may just be coincidence in your case, but you learn the lesson on this one. Search - Find- Buy

    Sorry that happened to you.

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  • Profile picture of the author kayo1234
    Same thing happen to me. We learn some lessons the hard way but as long as we keep on moving and take this lessons with us, I guess it's ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Gray
    I personally use the registrars domain checker. My registrar is Name.com, I have worked with them before and I am more than pleased.
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  • Profile picture of the author erichammer
    The worst was when I registered two domains with Network Solutions and then three days after I'd registered them and started building my new site, I got an Email from them saying that they had decided they didn't want to work with (something from their fraud prevention service, though for the life of me, I've got no idea what the problem was) and they summarily released my domain names for anyone to grab without any explanation.

    I raced to re-register them with Go Daddy but boy was I furious. It was lucky that the site wasn't fully up and hadn't been fully publicized yet or I'm sure someone would have stolen them out from under me. Moral of the story: I'll never touch Network Solutions again with a ten foot pole and I've got my domains registered for 10 years with Go Daddy so I don't have to worry about it for a while.

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  • Profile picture of the author ben1ewis
    Sucks big time. Sometimes unlucky with timing it's like someone knows you really want that domain!

    Check again in bit you maybe OK
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  • Profile picture of the author HigherPrThanGod
    Originally Posted by Marketing Cheetah View Post

    A bit disappointed at this time. Yesterday I cam up with a very nice domain name which was available. I don't know what went through my mind and to check its availablity I used some untrusted whois websites. I usually use domaintools.com but don't know what happened to me yesterday and I used some other websites (I was also looking for some suggestions, so I went for different ones).

    I thought to register the domain name in the morning after waking up. Today morning the domain name was registered by some one else.

    Moral: Either register the domain name immediately, or use some trusted site like domaintools
    It was me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    Wouldn't fret too much about it, just a lesson, snag a good domain as soon as you spot one... You have a whole year to get to work on it, even if you aren't planning on doing anything immediately.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
      That's happened to me a couple of times. Moral of the story is - if you find a golden nugget, don't let someone else steal it from under your nose. Get em registered.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
    Hey boys and girls-thought I'd chime in since I recently found out about a cool tool that's much faster than the other name checkers we've all been using, that a few people mentioned. To give credit where it's due, I learned of it from an E.Brian Rose interview of Mike Cowles talking about monetizing PLR.

    Mike told Brian about the tool; Brian thanked him and said he'll be using it from now on-as will I. Here it is: Ajax Whois 2.0 - fast domain name search and whois

    There is no benefit for me in sharing; I just think it's a nice time saver-and I don't think it will clue anyone in to what you're looking for-no buttons to push (unless you want to "favorite" a name)-it works kind of like Google instant-checks availability as you type.

    It's faster than you'd believe, and you can have it check for multiple extensions simultaneously. I love how you can start with a short name, and just continue typing-checking multiple names times all desired extensions without starting over, almost instantly. To set the extensions you're interested in, you can check them off on the right side of the page under "my preferred extensions".
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  • Profile picture of the author Fahu
    you should be thankful for the fact that you learned your lesson at the cost of such a small loss, you'll be careful from now on and thats what matters.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
      Originally Posted by Fahu View Post

      you should be thankful for the fact that you learned your lesson at the cost of such a small loss, you'll be careful from now on and thats what matters.
      Happened to me once back in 2009 but at that time I really didn't care about the domain. This time it was pretty serious. Yup, now I search for the domain and register it immediately.
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  • Profile picture of the author NetworkCorridor
    You still may have some additional time to check back in on your domain name shortly.

    Why wait until tomorrow for what you could do toady. But you already know that by now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Barefoot Warrior
      I've seen 2 or 3 people saying they use GoDaddy to avoid this sort of thing, which brings a wry smile to my face, because this is the reason I won't go anywhere near GD. Over a year ago I found a couple of domains and when I returned a liitle later to register them they were no longer available. Sure it could just have been coincidence, but I didn't feel so.

      A lot of domain checking tools work by checking with GoDaddy, I never use them now and prefer using NameCheap if checking.
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