Can anyone help me to get things finally moving!

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Hello!

I really feel that I am going round in circles. Can somenone recommends a good 1 to 1 mentor? I have been doing IM for about 6 months now.

Basically I need someone to steer me in the right direction and get the wheels in motion. I have a blog, a squeeze page, (I get between 2/4 subscribers a day) but NO sales.

So far to get traffic I have mainly used Ezine articles, but I am currently putting videos on youtube and publishing to tutorials and document shares.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author daddykool
    Hey Beatrice

    Got some slots free, what are you looking to do?

    6 months may feel like an age (especially if you get optins with no sales!) but it is a blink in the IM world :-) if you had said 6 years we might have all got a bit worried for you

    Sounds like you have done the hard bit and just need some 1on1 management, fire us over a PM and an overview of what you would like to master and what you are doing in general
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    • Profile picture of the author Mehak
      [QUOTE=daddykool;3517548]
      6 months may feel like an age (especially if you get optins with no sales!) but it is a blink in the IM world :-) if you had said 6 years we might have all got a bit worried for you

      I agree with the above, good for you to have got this far without a mentor but you may just need some help like you say.

      Maybe the leads you're getting aren't targeted enough or need time. If they aren't targeted enough I'd try changing your keywords which you're marketing for and maybe your marketing technique.

      To convert (this would depend on your product) eg: if it's a health ebook which you promote by writing health related content, costing a few dollars they should be selling fast. But if it's a business or costly product it may take time.

      What is your open rate like on emails? Do you email your list frequently? Sometimes you need to stay in touch and remind them who you are, what you do etc.

      Try the above and good luck. You are on the right track so stick with it and you will get there
      All the best
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgeReed
    Youll get sales by getting involved with and speaking to your list, educating them on what results you anticipate them achieving by using your product, and asking for the sale!
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  • Profile picture of the author Filter
    Hi Beatrice

    I do offer a paid 1 on 1 coaching / mentoring program (currently full anyway) but it sounds to me that you might just need a push in the right direction rather than a "full on" 1 on 1 coach/mentor, at least to get you moving.

    Feel free to PM me or catch me on Skype and I'd be glad to offer any free advice I can give you.

    Cheers
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      Open up your plan to the forum family,. Your helpers are all around you.
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  • Profile picture of the author chilidawg
    Perhaps what you need is a marketing team or network to work with, share ideas, assist each other to help you grown your business.

    1 on 1 may seem great, but it is then hard to capitalize on the assets and collective inertia of the group.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    I don’t like mentors because many of them are merely mentors and not real sellers. The best thing you can do is to keep studying internet marketing, following various posts in the Warrior forum, and in many other similar forums. Making money online depends on many things.

    First of all, you must sell the right products to the right people. You face a fierce competition online, in all fields. There is a LOT that you must learn if you want to be a successful internet marketer. A coach cannot teach you everything. You have to study alone, reading many posts, making questions, applying what you learn in your business, etc.

    Don’t waste your money. Study internet marketing for free, and you’ll understand what you have to do to make money with time and perseverance. A mentor will tell you that ‘you must do this and then you must do that’, etc. You can learn alone what you must do if you pay attention to all the posts at the Warrior forum, without having someone telling you what to do.

    And, even if you’ll follow a mentor’s guidance, you’ll still realize that there are many other things that he/she didn’t help you solve. Perhaps you are doing everything wrong and you have a lot to learn. Perhaps you are very near success but there are a few details you still didn’t understand yet. If you are doing everything wrong, I don’t think you'll find a sincere mentor who will tell you this truth. If you are near success, a mentor will only show you obvious things. You’ll feel that you spent your money for nothing special in the end.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Perhaps you are doing everything wrong and you have a lot to learn. Perhaps you are very near success but there are a few details you still didn't understand yet. If you are doing everything wrong, I don't think you'll find a sincere mentor who will tell you this truth. If you are near success, a mentor will only show you obvious things. You'll feel that you spent your money for nothing special in the end.
      So basically if everything I am currently doing is wrong, a coach won't let me know and will let me carry on in the wrong direction! If this is true, I don't understand how any coach can be in business (with all the refunds and negative feedback this will create)
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      • Profile picture of the author 72K.org
        Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

        So basically if everything I am currently doing is wrong, a coach won't let me know and will let me carry on in the wrong direction! If this is true, I don't understand how any coach can be in business (with all the refunds and negative feedback this will create)
        Hey Beatrice, you need to find something that is working, and not something that you would want to work. Check your PM I sent you a message.
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        • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
          Hey Beatrice, you need to find something that is working, and not something that you would want to work. Check your PM I sent you a message.
          Sorry, but I STRONGLY feel that beginners should keep away from the type of claim sent in your PM

          ..."I can probably help address your problems as I have a solution for you to make QUICK money on the internet in such a short amount of time."...
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgeReed
    Beatrice, chill out before discounting something as a scam just because somebody says it can be cheap or easy.

    Cheap depends on how much money you got.

    Easy depends on your knowledge and skillset now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Originally Posted by GeorgeReed View Post

      Beatrice, chill out before discounting something as a scam just because somebody says it can be cheap or easy.

      Cheap depends on how much money you got.

      Easy depends on your knowledge and skillset now.
      ...Have you read the whole pm?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Beatrice I hope you reported him for the PM if it was a load of spam!!!

    I also don't agree that a mentor wouldn't tell you that you are doing it all wrong - a mentor is there to teach you and show you how to be successful, they aren't going to just tell you that you're doing ok and let you keep going with what you're doing if it's wrong - that's ridiculous.

    If you do find a 1 on 1 mentor I do believe they are quite expensive so are you really prepared to go down that track? I know it should pay off and make you successful but it could be a big investment.

    It certainly sounds like you're doing the right things with your promotion but I don't know how much you are doing so it's hard to comment. I don't know what your income source is either, the video course is a free course, do you then go on to promote your own product for sale or affiliate products?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      are you selling your own product or someone else´s?

      are you pre-selling the product?

      if the product belongs to someone else, have you seen it?

      how do you know the people in your list are interested in the products you are selling?

      do they have the money to buy it?

      there could be tons of reasons why you are not selling. There is a delicate balance, you need to give info to them to convince them you know what you are talking about, but you can´t get too close because if you do they will expect you to provide the info for free now that you guys are best buddies

      Sandra
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      • Profile picture of the author Jim Hudson
        Hi Beatrice,

        I wanted to share another thread link that may help along with some social proof. The thread is closed but the info is there for reference.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3401221

        I am not selling anything nor do I coach. I wanted to show you what I have done and where I found the info. I know that Sean Donahoe is one of the best video marketers around. I have seen his work and use other methods of his to make my income. His trial membership is a buck, then the inner circle is $19.95 or something a month. He also has helped me get my blog network to over 11k a month.

        He gives away so much on webinars each friday night it's unreal. This may be a choice to take a look at and see if it will work for you. He also has recently launched a video marketing goldmine course that is making folks money the honest way. Youtube was not effected by the recent algo change, so you are on the right track with video.

        I have no aff links or anything else in the thread or my sig to try to profit, I'm doing fine without it and it degrades a recommendation. You can search for his name here on the forum and make your own judgments on what he offers.

        I hope you like the info,

        Jim
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      • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
        Thanks for your reply.

        are you selling your own product or someone else´s?
        someone else

        are you pre-selling the product?
        No - Don't know how to do this?
        if the product belongs to someone else, have you seen it?
        yes and it is a very good product for beginners in IM. I tried it myself.
        how do you know the people in your list are interested in the products you are selling?
        I presumed (perhaps wrongly) that if they signed up for it on the squeeze page, they would be interested.
        do they have the money to buy it?
        How is it possible to know this?
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      It certainly sounds like you're doing the right things with your promotion but I don't know how much you are doing so it's hard to comment. I don't know what your income source is either, the video course is a free course, do you then go on to promote your own product for sale or affiliate products?
      Basically, people sign up on my squeeze page for a free video course, and the idea is that they will then pay for/subscribe to the membership (an affiliate product).

      I am beginning to realise that I am not pushing the affiliate product enough (as frankly I don't know how to do that)? Once they have signed up for the free course, how do I push the affiliate product?
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

        Basically, people sign up on my squeeze page for a free video course, and the idea is that they will then pay for/subscribe to the membership (an affiliate product).

        I am beginning to realise that I am not pushing the affiliate product enough (as frankly I don't know how to do that)? Once they have signed up for the free course, how do I push the affiliate product?
        Beatrice, the first thing I'd do is rethink your squeeze page. It is too busy and there is too much information and multiple posts on there - remember that a true squeeze page has only one specific purpose in mind, and that is to collect your subscriber information. Furthermore, the opt-in form is off to the side and below the fold (for most computer screens), which isn't ideal.

        Pushing the affiliate product has to be accomplished via follow-up emails, especially in your case, where you're just directing them to the free course and there is no clear call to action to buy anything on that page.

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        • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
          Beatrice, the first thing I'd do is rethink your squeeze page. It is too busy and there is too much information and multiple posts on there -
          Can you give me an example of a simple squeeze page?
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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

            Can you give me an example of a simple squeeze page?
            Here's a decent example I picked which isn't in the MMO niche and is being advertised on Google Adwords:

            Special Offer - Save Your Relationship

            Notice how simple it is, and how you only have two actions you could take - either opt in or click out of the webpage.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
              Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

              My heart is not set on selling a specific product, but on generating some income.

              The confusion comes from:

              1. Do I need to start all over again and set up a new site/squeeze page about setting up an ebay business.
              2. Write articles about setting up an ebay business and enclose a report about setting up an ebay business.
              3. Set up a new aweber list, etc.
              This is what I need to be clarified.
              You can keep the site you have and put it "on the back burner."


              [*]Do I need to start all over again and set up a new site/squeeze page about setting up an ebay business.
              This is one option.

              [*]Write articles about setting up an ebay business and enclose a report about setting up an ebay business.
              This would be the logical next step - what ever the niche, yes!

              [*]Set up a new aweber list, etc.
              Yes, yes, yes!

              Find a product that will compliment what you have a firm knowledge of. Focus on doing everything you can to sell that product, and in the end you will find you have much more confidence about that MMO product you are pushing and many new things to share with others who it might help.

              The content you will be creating should come much easier.

              Your list will be focused and you will know exactly what those people need. You will be able to quickly spot products that can help them.
              They will trust you. Why? Because you have sold on ebay. Because you know what you are talking about. Because you can show them specific examples of things and it will be your challenge to truly help them and teach them how to get the results that you got. And if you are able to help just one of them it will go a long long way.

              In your profiles - like the one on ezine - you can actually elaborate on it and say "I have been selling on ebay for x amount of years and attained top seller status. I can show you how to make your first money online using ebay"

              So you give them some tips, and you let them know if they really want a full blown course they can get "this book" which you highly recommend as it has great details.


              If we went out to a girls lunch, tell me - If I wanted to talk about ebay or if I wanted to talk about make money online in general - which of these 2 topics would you feel better directing me about? Which one would I decide you are more expert on just from talking to you?
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    How much traffic do you get from ezine marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author chasnsx
    Beatrice: BE PATIENT! Impatience, more than anything else, is what lines the pockets of the gurus with gold. People don't want to spend a few years building a business. They would rather throw away fifty or a hundred dollars, or more, on the hope of instant success.

    It took me a year to see my first paycheck from IM. It took another six months for the pay to become steady, and for me to develop a second source of web income. I just learned today that a third website is now producing. I set it up around the first of the year. Now I need to go back and hit it with some serious SEO.

    I am still not making enough to quit my day job, but I look back and see a steady increase in income, and I am rapidly approaching the "rinse and repeat" point.

    This takes time, just like building any other business.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlondieWrites
    Hi Beatrice,

    I don't have any advice on who would be a good mentor, but I just wanted to say hang in there in your efforts to succeed. Sometimes it takes a little while to get moving.

    Good luck, and don't give up!

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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Hi Beatrice

    The product you are promoting is good for IM newbies but does it relate to what you are giving away for them to sign up to your list?

    I think if you give away a report or something that relates to the product you are selling then you are more likely to have more people buying the product.

    As far as selling the product to them once they have signed up - if you give away a report then you can include a mention of the product with your affiliate link. Then I would suggest sending out emails giving your subscribers some tips for Internet Marketing and then perhaps in the 3rd or 4th email you send talk about the product and include your link to it.

    You could also start a blog and blog about Internet Marketing in general. If the product is a 'system' to follow then you could follow it yourself and blog about your progress and in every post have a link to the product at the end.

    Just a few suggestions - hope you can pick things up and start making some sales
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Thanks for your sugggestions.

      I am realising that I am doing the wrong thing, but so far I don't know how to correct/change it.

      I am selling an Internet Marketing membership/subscription and as a free gift, I am offering a step-by-step video guide to help them build their first website. Is that not related to the product:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Yes I guess it is related to Internet Marketing but if it isn't making you any sales you may want to try something different. What about if you give a free report also, just a short report perhaps giving a brief outline of Internet Marketing that relates more specifically to what you are promoting. A report that you can include the affiliate link in.

    Are you doing many follow up emails?
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Thank you very much for taking so much time to advise me.

      I basically need to re-think everything I have been doing so far. Starting by:

      1. The Ezine articles.
      The content should be pointing towards the affiliate product ie: How To Start Online.

      The resource box:
      It should be giving a FREE report which will help to start online.

      2. Squeeze page
      Free report on How to Start Online. At this stage I can start mentioning the advantages of the membership and include my affiliate links.
      (do I mention the price of the membership at this stage?)

      3. Once they have signed up
      Send them the free report (complete with hyperlinks to the membership site)

      4. Follow up emails

      Unfortunately, I am at a loss at this stage. The affiliate is providing monthly newsletters? (which are obviously not working).
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      • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
        1. The Ezine articles.
        The content should be pointing towards the affiliate product ie: How To Start Online.

        The resource box:
        It should be giving a FREE report which will help to start online.
        Try it if you want, but you lose the lead for yourself. So your LTV is very low.

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        U]2. Squeeze page[/U]
        Free report on How to Start Online. At this stage I can start mentioning the advantages of the membership and include my affiliate links.
        (do I mention the price of the membership at this stage?)
        this can target your market better. Also, you can create a video with a walk through in the membership, don´t show any important information, just how to move around. It will give the affiliate and you more credibility.

        3. Once they have signed up
        Send them the free report (complete with hyperlinks to the membership site)
        Yes.

        4. Follow up emails

        Unfortunately, I am at a loss at this stage. The affiliate is providing monthly newsletters? (which are obviously not working).
        why don´t you make tests in other niches as well, using the information in the course. And show your subscribers the results?

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        There is a very basic issue when you are selling a product in IM if you didn´t do it online yet. You really don´t know if what you are selling works or not, and that shows up in the communication one way or another.

        When poeple start out, you will find 3 groups:

        -salespeople type of mindset
        -crafter type of mindset
        -work from home type of mindset

        for each mindset you have distinctively different fast lines to success.

        I hope I didn´t cause even more confusion...

        Sandra
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        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
          Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

          There is a very basic issue when you are selling a product in IM if you didn´t do it online yet. You really don´t know if what you are selling works or not, and that shows up in the communication one way or another.
          Yes - and it can even come through in the canned email followups strangely enough.
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        • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
          Thanks for your reply

          Try it if you want, but you lose the lead for yourself. So your LTV is very low.
          I don't understand this?:confused:
          this can target your market better. Also, you can create a video with a walk through in the membership, don´t show any important information, just how to move around. It will give the affiliate and you more credibility.
          This sounds like a good idea. I previously asked the affiliate if I could embed his video on my website.
          why don´t you make tests in other niches as well, using the information in the course. And show your subscribers the results?
          I wouldn't know where to start:confused:
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          • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
            RE: LTV
            Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

            Thanks for your reply

            I don't understand this?:confused:
            If you write your articles and send directly to the affiliate page, two things happen:

            -you might get into trouble with the article directory sooner or later as things are getting tougher with this. You can bridge this with a redirect

            -you don´t have the client´s information

            lets suppose that the conversions for the product you are selling are 2%, and that the conversions of the article are 20%

            500 people read your article
            100 people click on your link
            2 people buy

            the LTV (Long term value) of your customer is the commission over 2 sales

            now, what happens if you send to the squeeze?

            typical conversions of squeeze pages are 20%

            500 people read your article
            100 people click on your link
            20 people register to your newsletter

            they might not be interested in this product you are promoting now, but if you build a relationship, you will sooner or later know what they are interested in and what you can offer to make them go ahead.

            So, it is a matter of choices. Are you in this niche passing by or to stay? if you are passing by, add a redirect so you don´t link to the product directly but send the customer over the merchant. If you are there to stay, grab the information and start talking

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            • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
              why don´t you make tests in other niches as well, using the information in the course. And show your subscribers the results?
              I wouldn't know where to start
              Now I am the one confused... doesn´t the product teach how to make money in the internet? cannot it be applied to niches?
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              • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

                Now I am the one confused... doesn´t the product teach how to make money in the internet? cannot it be applied to niches?
                Ha, and it does all go round and round.


                Beatrice, I think what Sandra is suggesting - as I suggested - is that you will be better able to sell this product once you have sold a different product.


                Selling something else (within a niche you are more familiar with) can be an easy way to see what works and what does not.

                I think I detected a French accent? If that was you talking, I do have to say your English is superb as a second language.

                And let me throw another train on the tracks while I'm at it, lol - you could probably do well to promote one of those "learn a new language" programs too.
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                • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
                  Beatrice, I think what Sandra is suggesting - as I suggested - is that you will be better able to sell this product once you have sold a different product.

                  Selling something else (within a niche you are more familiar with) can be an easy way to see what works and what does not.

                  I think I detected a French accent? If that was you talking, I do have to say your English is superb as a second language.

                  And let me throw another train on the tracks while I'm at it, lol - you could probably do well to promote one of those "learn a new language" programs too.
                  OK. I think I finally get the message.

                  • I should Start a brand new project on something I am familiar with like ebay or promoting French (setting up new website,squeeze page, list, etc.)
                  • Regarding my existing website, focus on selling products that will help people build a website (like web hosting, graphics, etc.)
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                  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                    Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

                    OK. I think I finally get the message.

                    • I should Start a brand new project on something I am familiar with like ebay or promoting French (setting up new website,squeeze page, list, etc.)
                    • Regarding my existing website, focus on selling products that will help people build a website (like web hosting, graphics, etc.)
                    It looks like you're starting to get on the right track now.

                    I think starting a brand new project where you have the passion and knowledge to contribute something meaningful would result in faster and more tangible progress, as opposed to trying to feel your way around in the MMO niche, which is a tough nut to crack especially if you don't have real-world experience with it.

                    With your existing website, I'd start with a simple squeeze page which then redirects to your blog. Also, focus more on the technical aspects of website building instead of MMO, because they aren't necessarily the same thing.

                    Paul
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                    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
                      With your existing website, I'd start with a simple squeeze page which then redirects to your blog. Also, focus more on the technical aspects of website building instead of MMO, because they aren't necessarily the same thing.
                      Thanks Paul.

                      I think I am going to put this website on the back-burner for now. But in the meantime: How do I do a redirect from my squeeze page to my blog?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

      Hello!

      I really feel that I am going round in circles. Can somenone recommends a good 1 to 1 mentor? I have been doing IM for about 6 months now.

      Basically I need someone to steer me in the right direction and get the wheels in motion. I have a blog, a squeeze page, (I get between 2/4 subscribers a day) but NO sales.

      So far to get traffic I have mainly used Ezine articles, but I am currently putting videos on youtube and publishing to tutorials and document shares.

      Any help will be greatly appreciated.
      Just wondering - why did you decide to go into the MMO niche for your first try when you are not MMO? How many follow up emails do you have on your autoresponder? What personalized advice can you possibly be giving out when you don't really know how to get results yourself?



      Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

      Thanks for your sugggestions.

      I am realising that I am doing the wrong thing, but so far I don't know how to correct/change it.

      I am selling an Internet Marketing membership/subscription and as a free gift, I am offering a step-by-step video guide to help them build their first website. Is that not related to the product:confused:
      Well, it is - but you could have targeted even better. You are too broad and general IMO. Not everyone looking to make a website is doing it to make money online. Sure, it's a nice giveaway - but I'd be using it differently.

      If someone needs to make a website, then they might need hosting, domains, graphics, paid plugins. I would have stuck closer to the website creation thing. Can you see how that might be an even closer fit?

      I'm not saying you can't sell MMO - but here is the issue I see.

      There is so much MMO out there that it is one of the toughest cookies to crack. Those who seem to do the best have something very unique or special in their communication with their list. I think it requires either having a name for yourself or having a really strong ability to connect with your audience. Having some kind of insider information that you can effectively pass to your list and they feel a special bond with you.

      I just went looking for your ezine articles as I wanted to see what you were writing - only saw 2 listed in the backlink checker and the pages have been moved or removed?

      Are you sure the sign up traffic you did get came from Ezine?

      Also, found this line with one of your videos:
      I have run successful businesses on the internet for the last 10 years.
      Which businesses are these? What was your capacity?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2787866


        Ok, if I take this post at face value it tells me quite a bit.

        I also ran into one where you mention experience with Amazon.

        I think the transition you want to make is possible, but I also think you could build on your knowledge of amazon and ebay and use that as an even more specific direction - which could lead you to more general mmo products.

        For example - your report could be how you got your top seller status on ebay so quickly, and you can easily sell with that a book about ebay - which just looking at clickbank there are several.

        Not only that - but if you are really motivated you can take time to get to know your list and create your own product on the topic.


        If you are talking about things you really have a firm grasp on in your articles, it will most certain show.

        This is just one idea to ponder - but from the brief information I saw I think going this route would more quickly translate into sales sooner for you.

        And once you get one solid campaign under your belt the other MMO stuff will be very easy to pursue.
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        • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
          For example - your report could be how you got your top seller status on ebay so quickly, and you can easily sell with that a book about ebay - which just looking at clickbank there are several
          This is now taking a whole new direction. The content of my Ezine articles are about creating a website and so is the squeeze page. I don't really understand how the ebay book fits in?
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          • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
            Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

            This is now taking a whole new direction. The content of my Ezine articles are about creating a website and so is the squeeze page. I don't really understand how the ebay book fits in?
            Yes, I apologize - as I was suggesting you jump off the train you are on and consider taking a different one.

            It would be a different direction - but one that I deduced would possibly lead you to seeing conversions (meaning money) much sooner.

            But if your heart is set on the product you are already doing, I won't stop you.

            I guess it is a matter of what your goals are and how quickly you want to reach them.

            Personally for me, I do really well when promoting and selling things I am extremely familiar with. Things I have personal experience with.

            You have experience with ebay and amazon. You have knowledge on those topics already, and would likely be able to convey to an audience some genuine information that can help them to sell things on ebay for example.

            You could easily set yourself as an authority on the topic. Someone to trust. And as that person if I was looking to start an ebay business I would want to get information from someone who has done it and I would be more inclined to buy products they recommended that might speed me along.

            I hope that clarifies it for you.
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            • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
              It would be a different direction - but one that I deduced would possibly lead you to seeing conversions (meaning money) much sooner.

              But if your heart is set on the product you are already doing, I won't stop you.
              My heart is not set on selling a specific product, but on generating some income.

              The confusion comes from:

              1. Do I need to start all over again and set up a new site/squeeze page about setting up an ebay business.
              2. Write articles about setting up an ebay business and enclose a report about setting up an ebay business.
              3. Set up a new aweber list, etc.
              This is what I need to be clarified.
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              • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

                My heart is not set on selling a specific product, but on generating some income.

                The confusion comes from:

                1. Do I need to start all over again and set up a new site/squeeze page about setting up an ebay business.
                2. Write articles about setting up an ebay business and enclose a report about setting up an ebay business.
                3. Set up a new aweber list, etc.
                This is what I need to be clarified.
                Ok,

                you see... Jill and I are sissie marketers, you might want to seek advice from jackal marketers too... just leave your wallet somewhere else while you do it

                here is my take:

                if you already did some campaigns but you don´t have experience you can share, then to build a list will play against you.

                to build a list only works when you have something to share.

                so, for what I have seen o far... i would tell you: complete this campaign sending traffic to the merchant to gain some experience in terms of conversions and hopefully some money

                and build a list around the subjects where you can make a difference and become an authority

                to that list sell products related with your area of expertise and offer bonus you create completing the info on the products you are selling

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                • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
                  you see... Jill and I are sissie marketers, you might want to seek advice from jackal marketers too... just leave your wallet somewhere else while you do it

                  Jill Carpenter and Sandra Martinez! A big thank you for your precious and valuable help. It is much better to hear it now (after 6 months in IM) than after 6 years

                  I knew I was doing something wrong but could not pinpoint what it was. I will now start things again in a much better direction (actually dealing with something I know about).

                  Merci beaucoup et a bientot!!!
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                  • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                    Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

                    Jill Carpenter and Sandra Martinez! A big thank you for your precious and valuable help. It is much better to hear it now (after 6 months in IM) than after 6 years

                    I knew I was doing something wrong but could not pinpoint what it was. I will now start things again in a much better direction (actually dealing with something I know about).

                    Merci beaucoup et a bientot!!!
                    De rien, bonne chance!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
        why did you decide to go into the MMO niche for your first try when you are not MMO?
        Hello!

        A brief history...

        I have been selling on Ebay and Amazon for the last 10 years (not related to IM).

        I decided 6 months ago to try IM. Like many newbies my first step was to go on an IM course. (in my case it was an excellent IM course) and I subsequently became an affiliate for this IM course.. and that's where I am coming unstuck!

        This is my first stab at IM and this product just happened to be a natural choice.
        How many follow up emails do you have on your autoresponder?
        Everything is provided by the affiliate. The free gift, the followup emails (newsletters), etc.
        Well, it is - but you could have targeted even better. You are too broad and general IMO. Not everyone looking to make a website is doing it to make money online. Sure, it's a nice giveaway - but I'd be using it differently.
        What you are saying makes a lot of sense, but in that case I shouldn't be promoting this affiliate product (which talks about IM and making money online)

        I am sending you a pm regarding the other questions
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    I clicked on your sig and viewed the site, You say how to create a website at the top of page. Than at the sign in at the bottom, it asks for name, email followed by "Website"? If I want to learn how to create a website, than why ask me about my website. That might create a credablity issue IMHO
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I should stop what I am currently doing for the time being - as it is not working and I have no experience of IM. (shame about all these Ezine articles, but that's life)
    Yes, but once you have experienced success with the other niches you can come back to this and you will really be an expert!
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    If you're getting opt ins right now, I'd say you're doing something right.

    The problem is that they opt ins, who ARE interested aren't being sold.

    This could be for a couple of reasons...

    Maybe you're not attracting buyers, maybe the free product wasn't very good quality, maybe the sales pitch is too heavy from the jump(spammy spam is spammy), or maybe the auto responder series isn't set up right.

    Attracting buyers? Are all your ezine articles and youtube videos about getting something for free? If so, you may have a list of freebie seekers. Focus your articles around the idea that making online is like building a business and some investments like creating a website are some of the most important things they can do...then SELL them the report for cheap...5, 7 or 10 bucks. You'll get a list of buyers who are more likely to buy from you...since they already did once.

    Crappy Free Report? Did it help you and answer all your questions about setting up a website in an easy to follow manner without over hype selling you on something else? Then it's probably not the product.

    Spammy Spam Can? If it's all about upselling to the next stage....you should redo the report on your own. You can use CamStudio (free software) to make the video. Don't promote ANYTHING during the video....just help by providing the info they wanted.

    After the video tell them about the emails you're sending them to help them even more and give a few examples of the titles they'll recieve.... they'll like the titles and look forward to your emails... that's great because that's when you're selling!

    Next provide some more content (again without selling) to help build a relationship with them that you're there to provide quality info. Give 75% of the time, sell 25% of the time.
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