A Challenge for an IM 'Guru' - Any Takers?

Wow! Some guru is going to be one lucky person to be able to teach you for free. I would recommend interviewing them first to pick the right guru. I am sure you will get a lot of gurus just wanting to be the "one."

You wouldn't want to waste your time working with the wrong guru.

Good luck on this. You have absolutely no risk and the guru type (your words) has all the liability.

Besides what Thomas pointed out... here is what I see as a "problem":
You are still looking for the "magic" method! However, it is not the method that makes you money. Offer something (product or service) that people want to buy = that's the magic.

Instead of looking for the magic formula (there isn't one that works for everyone) spend your time and money on obtaining the tools you need to put a successful business together.

This can be software for creating products and doing research or getting a domain and hosting. Stuff like that.

Then find a niche that has a need and create or market a product that fills the need.

That's what I did when I started out and it has treated me very well over the years.

Full time IM since April 2005.

Hi.

Unfortunately what you're offering wont be accepted.

A guru is already getting paid for what they are doing. You are offering to take their time for the tiny bit of exposure your blog would provide.

Don't take this too personally but this sort of request by you has been made many times before on this forum. You simply have no skin in the game (as others have been pointing out).

-Simon

Why don't you have a look in the Members Challenges and Contests section of this forum? There's an active thread about "sponsoring a warrior" that could be helpful for you.

What is it that you want to do? Sell info products? Have niche sites that make money from adsense? or niche products like Amazon? Do you have a particular niche you want to be in?

Different coaches will specialize in different areas so you probably need to narrow this down first. Of course, I doubt any real coach is going to come in here and volunteer to coach you for free as they are probably quite busy with their paid students but if you can narrow down what you want to do then you can maybe find some courses that set you in the right direction.

I can hear the frustration in your voice. You might find someone to take the challenge, but there is a quicker way to get a "guru's" mentoring without spending money. Not that it won't cost you something mind you.

If you would be willing to write articles, place ads, man a help desk, be a virtual assistant, or do any and all grunt work that a guru needs done for the experience... you might be able to work with someone that is awesome. It has to be real effort and you must be sincere. You must be willing to go the extra mile.

Even then no one is going to turn over everything to you until you've proven to be hard working and worthy.

If you have cycles (hours) that you can dedicate to helping someone else with their business it would be as valuable or more so than what you propose.

I think there is a 30 Days challenge some where online...Google it and get started with it....It's free...

Don't waste time looking for the magic pill...it doesn't exist....

Chris, I sense - and quite understand - your frustration with the route
you've followed in the past.

Many years ago (and from time to time since then), I too have
felt that way - as I'm sure have thousands of Warriors.

The trouble is, EVEN IF a 'guru' gave you a proven system and
step by step guidance, it would still be up to YOU to carry
out the things s/he teaches you - and the results you get
will be a function of that action.

If you'd like to follow a system, try the one I outlined in
a recent post here

It's a system I based my OWN early growth upon - and so I
know it works.

So... Will YOU try it?

All success
Dr.Mani

Gurus love working for free and being openly challenged at the same time. You should have them lined up fighting one another to accept your offer.

Do you really think successful marketers have to prove themselves to you or anybody else for that matter?

hey I agree with Tim Carer, being honest you don't need to spend money to learn. The warrior forum and internet is full of content explaining how IM works for free. Yes you probably will find someone willing to take your money and may build you a nice site or set up some marketing...whatever but a real mentor is someone who can guide you through your journey.
It will probably take you time to make some real money because you need to understand how the whole industry works unless you join a great programme or launch a fab product which will make you rich very quickly.

I would advise that you carry out some research and implement whatever you know. I mean you mention videos/blogs etc so why not give it a try and invest in some education rather than a mentor.

Spend your money on tools and resources that will last and benefit you and your business in the long term. Unfortunately there is no secret 'get rich quick scheme'.

You can find some recommended tools which I use on my blog, either google me or pm me for more info.
All the best

I wonder if this type of proposal would work on a college admin office.

"I have flunked out of several schools, after they all claimed that I would get an education. I challenge you to let me go to school here for free to see if this 'education' thing actually works. Oh and I also need you to buy my books. What do you say, Harvard, are you in or is this education claim a bunch of BS?"

I'm willing to bet 90% of those products weren't BS and it comes down to this again

Funny thing... there's plenty of free information on this, and other forums to build yourself a nice business.

So why do you expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter?

Discipline yourself to a regular process and effort around a specific technique that you learn here.

That's "the secret".

No guru will get you to get off your arse and work if you're already expecting them to hand the entire program to you. Sounds like doom from day 1.

This is now approximately the 2,348th time someone has issued
this "challenge" on the forum since I've been a member.

For me, the amusement value never seems to wane...

Tsnyder

I'll put you to work for the next 6 months,
showing you how to do everything.

You'll build websites, traffic, products, offers,
services, and your industry network.

We'll be in touch every work day for at least
one 20 minute heartbeat call.

Only one catch - all the $ goes to me.

You get your irrefutable proof for yourself and
others as well as your education.

I get initial financial rewards of your efforts.

When do we start?

Best,

Brian McLeod

If you like, you can visit my website for the details of how I make my first buck online

Firstly guys thank you all for your input, especially the one's who genuinely do want to help people who are stuck deep in the Analysis Paralysis stage of Internet Marketing, which I think I probably fall into the category of, I understand I have also irritated the hell out of some of you, which I apologise for and hope it didn't put you in too much of a bad mood for the day. I honestly never expected a Guru to come forward and accept the challenge, I knew it would be scoffed at by some, but I also know there are some people out there who do genuinely want to help others - and in the majority of the books I have read such as napoleon hill etc on becoming wealthy this is a biggie in becoming truly wealthy in mind and spirit as well as the bank, giving a little back..so once again to those who did give me the useful advice that will steer me on my path, thank you very much, I will take on board everything said to me, and will try and put it together to formulate a path through the minefield, enjoy the rest of your day, and thanks again,
Chris

No doubt there is a lot of that going on. But...how did you "conclude it" in general? What were your logical steps and actions you took to reach this conclusion.

If anybody even did consider taking you up on this challenge I would hope they would require you to document all the products you bought, what steps you implemented from the product in detail. Where you got stuck. What you did to get unstuck when you hit a block.

Plus whether you were to pay for this or not, it should be YOU that is seeking out the mentor that YOU want to study with - not just their techniques, but their outlook on marketing and ways of running their business and marketing.

Why not just challenge yourself to create the successful internet business you want?

There are lots of WSOs out there for cheap that go over business models that work. Buy one and follow it relentlessly.

How about this?...I have a WSO launching Thursday on my method of creating one form of successful internet business. Send me a PM and I will let you have it for free once I release it. I promise if you follow the steps inside, you will create wealth from your web business.

Travis

You should probably post this in the Challenges section of the forum.

LOL.

Chris has just contacted me.

Give him his first props, peeps.

Takes balls to call that raise.

And thank you to everybody who said nice things
about taking me up on the offer.

Maybe I need to run an Indentured Servitude WSO?

I don't get the impression that Chris is your typical
whiner - I think he's just genuinely frustrated and
stuck in a pattern.

We'll see what happens, but I give him kudos for
stepping up to a reciprocal challenge himself.

Brian

I am not a marketing guru. Actually, I bought an Amazon Affiliate course a couple of months ago for $37. It didn't have any "SECRET" for making money. Everything mentioned in there was already in the public domain and I had fairly good idea about it. All that the marketing guru did was create compelling pitch.

You need to start working! Best advice is always free. Try niche websites or something like that. All the best.

PS: You will have to offer something ($$$$) for the IM guru in your challenge if you want someone to actually accept it.

I noticed you didn't reply to Jill, or at least not in public.

Therein lies your answer.

Figure out why you failed to achieve what you want to achieve, make corrections. Ask intelligent questions about the particular problems that you had on your way to following a course/strategy/product/button.

You'll gain invaluable advice when you are stuck actually 'trying' to make something work, from this very forum.

On a different note, if you end up not taking Brian's offer (if he was serious about it), if you plain and simple don't like his face. I make you the same offer.

Although Brian makes more money than I do, he is probably cooler too. I seriously offer you a similar deal. A place in my private group coaching program (re-open april), on the same terms. All the $$ go to me for the next 3 months.

Jim Rohn once said, 'You can help a thousand, but you can't carry 3 on your back'. Food for thought.

Maddi Murtaza

I have to admit, some products do fall short when they teach a 'method' in that they don't show the whole 'system' of what makes the method work. Once you can 'see' the 'system' the methods just fall into place as a piece that powers the machine.

When you see the whole 'system' what you see is a series of channels that produce 'multiple streams of income' which is where the huge numbers come from.

You know more than you think you know. What you don't know is how to 'process it' it all together as the system yet.

You know what your skills are. These are 'resources' which can be income producing assets. You may not realize that yet, but you at least know what you can do, which is a far site more than a lot of other people know.

Those skills, assets and resources, can be leveraged to create the income, and the platforms need to accomplish and leverage even more...

And that is the 'system.'

I am not the 'guru' you seek, and God help the person who ever calls me one, but I'm pretty successful, have created and sold many products, built lists, have a very limited amount of success with affiliate email marketing, but I'm learning, and have put together a joint venture mastermind group that has been beneficial to all the members in more ways than I can list here. If you want some guidance, use the info I gave you in that PM. I don't want anything in return, just 'paying it forward' as my own mentor requested when she gave me the same advice.

-Dani

Chris, I understand what you are saying and your willingness to learn, but I don't see anyone at the level you are alluding to helping you out.

There are tons of people here, and in the big world out there who have spent many years honing their skills in the schools of hard knocks to get to where they are today. What you are asking is to sidestep the kinds of work they have done and go right to the top and it just doesn't work that way.

I understand when you say the guru types sell a lot of crap through overly-hyped sales pages, but some of them actually do have some very good products. They, just like you, have families to support and bills to pay just as you do.

Sure, there are many scammers on CB, CJ, and even here on the WF. There is just as much phony hype here in the WSO section as there is on CB or anywhere else. I don't condone it, but it's the nature of the business. Smart buyers can spot that stuff a mile away though.

If you're serious about developing your skills you can do that without really spending a cent. You say you want a guru-type to train you? Make a list of the top five people you would like to learn from. Think big. Think very big. You can actually reverse engineer what these guys do if you just study them. Anyone can.

Google up their names. Find their sales pages. Opt in to their lists. Maybe even buy some of their products. Then study their emails. How often do they send them? What are they like? What kinds of products do they promote? What auto-responders are they using? How are they opting in names to their lists?

If you buy one of their products, carefully examine their traffic flows. Do they have up-sells and OTOs built into their sales funnels? Take screen shots of everything they do in their sales funnel.

What are they doing on their download pages? Are they promoting their own products there? Are they offering free bonus download products there? Why do you think they do that and whose products are they? How do you think they get their affiliates? Sign up to promote some upcoming product launches. Watch the leader boards and see who the top super-affiliates really are! On their affiliate pages they will often mention the top copywriter they used by name to write their sales copy.

Look on their sales pages. At the bottom you can often see who designed their sales pages. Check them out. Go to article directories and video hosting sites and search out their names. Often, a lot of the guru types posted some of their best ideas there before they made the big time. Read and watch their stuff.

Some of the people here on the WF have made more money through this forum than any of the hot-air buffoons and have never run one single WSO selling a product ever. Figure that one out!

I have done this with a number of guys and found the free stuff they have posted on such platforms discloses as much if not more than you get with their expensive products.

Chris, I'm not trying to be critical, I'm just suggesting to you and anyone else struggling to get started that you can often reverse engineer the techniques almost any guru-type uses if you are willing to do your homework, put in the time, and study what you learn.

Like many have said before--don't do what the gurus tell you; Do what they actually do! And what they do can be learned and applied as needed. So finally, the gurus you are looking for to help you are out there. If you're willing to work and study you can actually get exactly what you want from them--and much more just by studying their actions and techniques from afar.

It isn't rocket science. Don't beg people to share their secrets--just steal them by observing what they do. The education is free. The tuition is just a matter of time.

Now, I'm not bragging--many people here know a lot more about things than do I, but if you study what I said, let it soak in, and cogitate on it a bit it's worth more than a few thousand dollars worth of those ebooks you've bought that are jamming up your hard drive.

Final tip: It's not always the people here on the WF or in the big, real world out there who are jack-hammering their jaws about how much money they make who are the most successful. There are a lot of "quite folks" making a killing too. Search them out, shadow them, learn from them and profit.

There are people here, and some of them have posted above, whom I follow religiously--and I've learned more about making money doing that than from any guru-type Clickbank product being sold.

Good Luck! --Mike

Let me make it real easy for you, based on your skills. Go watch this video and do it:

Want $1 Million Per Month? | Internet Marketing Advice, Internet Business Blog, Work From Home Blog

Hi Guys,
I would just like to say thanks again to all of you who have put encouraging and helpful comments on this thread, and I would especially like to thank Brian, Dani and Travis who actually contacted me personally to offer their help. If nothing else this thread will show that there are good people out there who recognise that someone does need help, and are also willing to give that help, a lot more of you than those with the 'screw you and sod off scrounger' attitude. So thank you all for your comments, I will keep re-reading the thread and take note and listen to all the advice given, the info from from Mike is brill, and as 'IM Walkthrough' said the advice given will be invaluable to many newcomers, it has worked for me and I look forward to my journey ahead, watch this space
Cheers Guys
Chris

Thanks, thats my little boy Jonah , it would be counter-productive to pick parts and debate them, on the whole this has been a very positive experience, I am looking forward to increasing my knowledge and thank everyone for their input. I'll stop now before I need to create another paragraph

The METHODS to succeed are NOT secret. They're very well documented here. Your biggest problem is your belief system. You think it's impossible and need someone to prove you wrong.

Whether you believe it's possible to earn a living doing IM or not, you're right.

You need to fix your belief before you ask for help.

I get this all the time. So many people want something for nothing. I have already done it. I have a comfortable 6 figure a month biz. Why should I waste time on something like this? Givers get. Show me why you are worthy and then maybe you'll get some tips.

I made over $112K my first 7 mos in IM and sell a course that teaches STEP BY STEP how to to it. Think anyone does it? It's sad. But not surprising.

Stop chasing gurus, pick a method & start taking action... There, I revealed the Million dollar secret to making lots of $$$ online...

Would you buy me a beer?

I think you should refer to the War Room.!

Many "gurus" have shared their methods there!

Karan

Ok let me place a real challenge out to all those Gurus.

Prove to me that you are making all those thousands of dollars you claim by sending me all your daily earnings into my bank account. Those that deposit thousands into my account I will thank on this forum.

OK so the OP has not done bad since the thread came out. A lot of stick, sure, but he kept going.

That is a sign of determination. He also got a few offers from his challenge, not bad.

Offered a freebie once he is qualified, nice!

Not bad collaborative work from the warriors.

The OP and others should understand that this is how it rolls here on the warrior forum. Plenty of voice and opinion and one single thread could be the changing point of your life

I think most of the criticism although may seem harsh from the one angle was constructive. All the BS that flies on around in the IM world that can take you into a spiral of wasted money, time and energy can be saved if you come over here and chat to a few genuine people who do not mind indirectly coaching you through replies on posts and PMs.

You my friend landing a great deal from this thread, I think God termed it 'wisdom', i'll go with 'sound enough advice to get you going'

Brian, Sid and all the others that stepped up to the plate for Chris, thanks.

I had that happen to me more than 5 years ago and I know, I knew less than Chris did. But a fella by the name of Big Mike got hold of me and set me on the right path.

The truly amazing part of this is he and I still have an outstanding relationship, both personal and business. We are in almost daily contact and sometime spend an hour or more just shooting the bull. But we almost always discuss our business every time.

Once in awhile we will even BBQ a Warrior or 2.

Take heed folks, if you haven't read every post in this thread, and I can tell quite a few haven't because of their responses, I strongly recommend you do so. There is Gold In This Here Thread.

Ken Leatherman

The Old Geezer

I feel your pain and while others may be inclined to publicly shame you, I for one can sympathize and recommend checking out www.bradgosse.com and www.internetmarketingcrunch.com for FREE valuable, effective IM info from 2 of the biggest ANTI-Gurus I know. And remember...

Actions Produce Results!

Hey Chris,
That's a great challenge. I think it would work better if you had something to lose too. If you were to agree to go through the I.M. training, follow each step or method exactly and also do a 60/40 split until you paid the guru 1k, 3k or 5k - then it would be a fair challenge.
When the guru's account reached the agreed upon sum, he would then completely transfer all the accounts into your name or give u 100 percent commission on everything.
What do you think? Fair or not?

update - I'm glad u were able to start getting the type of help u were looking for. When I initially read you OP - I thought u just wanted to make some type of big challenge and write it up - not just seeking help and free info.

Hi Steven,

Thanks for your comment, I understand where you're coming from, I myself don't have a lot of tolerance for people who won't help themselves and I know firsthand how frustrating this can be, as for me personally I am a firm believer in the old chinese proverb 'give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life', I don't want a fish, I want to learn how to fish, and I am sure Brian will be a fantastic mentor for me.

I am pretty thick skinned and honestly can take criticism, only a fool would discard negatives and only look at positives, all opinions can be valuable and as I said previously in this case they only increased my determination, so no worries there,

I know that you are very successful in your chosen area, and I am sure I could learn a lot of valuable stuff from you also, at the same time I would like you to accept that in my case I am very serious about become successful and hopefully my actions in the coming months will go a little way to proving this to you
Well its now 11pm here in the UK, I have loaded my Ipod up with Brians webinars and I am off to the Gym for some focused training and thinking!

Thanks again Steven

Chris

Howdy there young fellar! You went and called out for a guru and lo and behold... HERE I BE!

Now then, I can shore understand yore frustration but there is one problem with yore question and it is...

See, I knowed this fellar what is one of them accounting gurus. He's all edumucated up and he's a rite smart fellar! Now what if I was to walk into his office and tell him, "Lookie here now Mr. Accountant Guru, I want you to be provin to me that there accountin really works! Iffin you can prove it to me, I will believe you but if you DON'T prove it to me, I shore ain't gonna believe you!" Do you see the problem there? See, he KNOWS accountin works! Why should he be provin it to anyone?

I'd be willin to bet a swaller a shine that yore problem lies more with INACTIVITY than CREATIVITY! If you were to take one a them there ebooks you bought, put it all into action and then stick to it like Jedidiah Urkey's drawers stick to the wall, I shore reckon you will have all the success was wantin'!

Lot's a folks cain't believe that they will actually make money on the interneet so they have lost fore they even begin. They just don't put forth the effort cause they figger there's just no use! Yore interneet success is determined a LONG time fore you ever get on the interneet. It's determined by the filter of yore past raisin an how you let it determine your present prospects!

I have a friend who owns a super large business an his name is Phil Knight. Ole Phil has this here logo what says, "Just DOO It!" See he owns a fertilizer company an he is up to his elbows in doo all the dadburn day long!

So, young fellar, just let me be sayin to you, "JUST DOO IT!"

Ok...buy me a $100 lunch somewhere and I'll tell you everything you need to know to make 5 figures a month. Then you would be set for life right? The chasm that lies between knowing how to do something and actually doing it is a billion light years wide. I suspect that's where you find yourself at the moment. But writing a post like this is not going to get you across man. There is only one thing that will and that is through hard work, by not whining about your setbacks, and by becoming the most persistent sonbitch around. You accomplish those three things you'll be absolutely amazed at the difference it will make in your bank account.

Wow, you opened up a can of worms on this thread.
I think you just want to find a system that works. But I don't think anyone is going to take your challenge.
I'm very new to IM so I don't expect you to listen to me. But I believe that if you pick just one thing and never give up on it, it will work for you.
It will take hard work, money (more than $200) and time (maybe months or years) but HARD WORK ALWAYS PAYS OFF.
You don't need a guru to fulfill your dreams of working at home & spending more time with your kids. You can do it yourself if you educate yourself thoroughly and never give up. Plus, The Warrior Forum is literally packed with lots of info and free resources to help you. Especially the War Room.
I wish you the best of luck I hope you achieve your dream because it is the same as mine - I want to always be there for my son.

[EDIT]: Just saw the OP's response above, after I posted this but decided to leave it up as it may be a useful dose of reality for other newbies that may be struggling to find a beginning.

Okay it's been exactly a week since you posted this "Challenge". What have you done for the past week? There were a few ideas on here that pointed you in the right direction so my "Challenge" to you is answering to everyone who took the time to post in this thread what exactly have you done over the course of the week?

a) Sat idly by because you didn't like anything you read so far
b) Still waiting for answers
c) Too busy to start until I have someone kicking my ass
d) All of the above

Dude, I feel for you but sooner or later you're going to have to jump off the fence and start something... anything. Just do one little thing and stick to it until it works. Tweak it, adjust it, change it until it works for you and then build upon that.

Start with a clean slate and just begin. The mistakes you'll make, well no one can teach those lessons and those are the ones that are invaluable that will certainly help you get over obstacles in the future. It's called growth so you may as well start now and get the mistakes out of the way before you reach success.

So my advice to you is "Start screwing up and do it big time" start with the free to-do stuff and once you get a handle on that keep moving forward.

PS. The more times you screw up the better your success story will be in the end

Hi chris

hope all is well. I'd very happy to help you even I just started Internet Marketing last month but I feel that I choose the right guru so I can see decent penny grow from my website. Not so much but I know if I keep doing I can multiple my profit.

I will share what I've got for free.

Just prepare your hosting and I will help you out.
Don't worry every penny you got from website its yours.

Just add my skype and I'll try tell you what works for me.

Hey Chris, you made it!

Your like Keanu Reeves in the Matrix movies where he suddenly realises that what he believed to be the real world was all a fake! Your right, a lot of Guru's make a lot of money by making BIG promises to newbies. Plus, unfortunatley and (with the greatest respect to this fantastic forum and its heroic members) if you take a look around you will see a number of claims just as bold here too.

The truth is a little more reassuring though: There is money to be made online and offline using your internet marketing skills. What it takes is originality, creativity and some sound business acumen. Identify a target market and create a product or service around fulfilling a need. Its not going to happen overnight though, it takes time, planning and great execution.

The GURU's have identified a niave market of people (We have all been there right!) and appeal to their human instincts. We all want things right now with the least amount of effort expelled!

So the Guru's tell us "Earn 10k a week within a month with zero experience..."

Dude, its clear even from the way you're writing that you're overcomplicating this stuff way too much.

Stop all this talk about methods.. Its just selling. Different ways of selling. That's how money is made.

You put a page that sells something compelling, then send traffic to that page.

Yes there are different methods of sending traffic.

And there are different methods of selling on the page.

But asking whether the methods work is like asking whether sales occur over the phone.

Or face to face sales really work

Or people buy things from websites.

Yes, they do.

Stop being a chump, and just sell something.

Wow, it takes all kinds to make the world go around.

True audacity!

I've been at it for almost 4 months and started with a completely different mindset.

Guess what?

Because I took responsibility and didn't expect a hand out and actually started GIVING to other newbies that were less experienced than me, ...I was blessed by a guru taking interest in me, giving me personal tips and help on a certain facet of this business JUST BECAUSE!

I was shocked but so very thankful I took responsibility and started giving FIRST....then the help came to me.

Sow/Reap

period

^^
Nice reminder Carol, thanks

Chris, There is no real secret to making money online. You must create a product that people are willing to buy, and sell it to them. Here's my formula: find a niche that is competitive (that means there are lots of buyers) and create a squeeze page so you can build a list. Then drive traffic to the squeeze page, building a list. Build a relationship with those subscribers. Ask them what they need help with. Then create a product that helps them with that need. Then sell it to them. I've done this with multiple products, that is what I see most other gurus doing, try it -

If I were you take the 30 day challenge. This teaches you the basics of internet marketing and gives you all the basic tools to make your first $$$ online in just 30 days.
I followed it when I was first getting started and it gave me a really good ground work. Once I discovered other things I was able to put my basic knowledege to use and develop my own stratagies and make money doing things I really enjoyed.

You can do the challenge and register for free here:

The Challenge

I go about this IM thing the old fashion way. IM = Internet Marketing, right? Ask your yourself this question: What am I marketing? Is it something real or made up by someone? Is it what I would want to spend my money on?

I have the same advice for anyone in your situation. Here it is. Find something you are good at. Make it the theme of your website. Build quality content around it. Promote your website. Want proof? Proof it yourself. This formula works 100% of the time. It may take some time for you to achieve success but you will be successful. Period!

It is unfortunate that some people are making a bucket load of money online selling garage and doing nothing of substance. But, that's the way it is. It is so because there are a lot of people who have latched on to this idea that they can make money online overnight literally, so they are willing to do anything including spending money on ideas that don't worth a minute of attention. By the time they realize their mistakes, they have spent all their resources on "snake oil" with nothing to show for it.

So, you know enough about how the Internet works to be successful. Just find a theme to build real website around and then promote it any way you can. Give yourself time; it takes time to achieve success. It REALLY does!

I'm still laughing. SEO Guru, for free. Who ever you find, askem if they're not too busy if they could pop their head in on me.

I just started out, I paid for a little help, then i've learnt the bit(s) I'm now using.

As has been said, the answer is in here. Lots of different answers in fact, they all work, you just have to actually follow through all the way.

I am proof. Well ,I think I am.

Amazon - I've setup 3 sites using wordpress, all have made at least 1 sale, 1 has made many more than 1.

I have clickbank products on some pages, and have made 1 sale. (Yipee 1st Sale)

I have adsense on all pages, I have made some from that too.
I've built a referral site, and advertised it.

Not loads, but it's just 1 month, and I can see it going up already.

I am also about to start a web directory.

I've spent at most $150 dollars, 50/50 on Domains and paid links.
I will keep on pushing.

I've taken almost as much in the above sites.

If I can do it, YOU can do it.

Hi Chris,
I have now read through 3 pages.Whew what a lot of responses.
You have made a very wise decision Brian is one heck of a guy he won't bs you he won't pussyfoot around and he will teach exactly what you need to do. You better not waste his time at all. Dude is super busy and has a big heart so I am saying it be serious and do what he says and you will get more than you could imagine out of it.
Some of you I know yes it becomes a little monotonous hearing things but you know what sometimes people are so darn frustrated they need some encouragement that they can do this.

Brian, This is exactly why I like you and am very proud to call you friend.
I would be willing to contribute as well when he is done 50.00 cash and a copy of every product I have out at that time. I also would be willing to help you in any way I could.
You made my day seeing this Mac.thank you!
-Will

So - what happened with this? Full of hot air or did he take the bull by the horns?

Hi Guys,

I have had a few messages recently regarding the offer from Brian etc..I'll start by saying my wife gave birth to a beautiful little boy this morning, we have named him Noah, which means I am a bit busy today

I will however say that the last four months have been a HUGE learning curve, and a bit of a rollercoaster ride, regarding my work with Brian he is an extremely busy guy so we haven't actually took the bull by the horns and sunk our teeth in at the minute, but we do have plans to work on a fantastic project together which will be happening soon, and to be honest I reckon it will blow your socks off! the idea is that good!

I'll add that Brian has given me some amazing advice to get going with my own stuff, he's an extremely cool guy who definitely knows his stuff..

I'll put in a more detailed report at some point this week on some of the different things I have been trying and the successes I have had, plus of course in the spirit of the warrior forum I have an awesome free report that I will be giving away to my fellow warriors...watch this space

Best
Chris

You mean I get to coach you for free and I don't have to charge you my usual $500-$1000 monthly rate, AND I will spend the whole time convincing you of the right thing to do because of your skepticism? Wow awesome deal! Where do I sign up?