AUTOBLOGGING! How? Good or Bad? Pros Cons?

13 years ago

I would advise against it. It worked in the past, but since Google's latest algo changes, it has made sites that scrape articles from other sites drop massively in the rankings. I would advise going to elance and having someone right you original articles for $5 a pop. Worth it in the long run. if you did want to check out autoblog software, I would check out WPRobot.

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dotlinkmedia

13 years ago

I still think autoblogging with other people taking the article was a disgrace.

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WillR

13 years ago

Bad.
Pros: None.
Cons: Everything

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iAmNameLess

13 years ago

Originally Posted by empoweredh

I would advise against it. It worked in the past, but since Google's latest algo changes, it has made sites that scrape articles from other sites drop massively in the rankings. I would advise going to elance and having someone right you original articles for $5 a pop. Worth it in the long run. if you did want to check out autoblog software, I would check out WPRobot.

No... it hasn't. All the autoblogs I have, and other people posting on this forum, have noticed a large increase in ranking and traffic

Originally Posted by dotlinkmedia

I still think autoblogging with other people taking the article was a disgrace.

What about news syndication? Is that a disgrace? Maybe it is a matter of ethics here, but ethics don't make mortgage payments, or power bills. People might think it is wrong, but that is okay, I will continue using autoblogs and keep the money from it!

Originally Posted by WillR

Bad.
Pros: None.
Cons: Everything

I used to think autoblogs were horrible because it takes 20 minutes to install a template, and then the site is basically complete. However, it works.
Pros - not having to constantly maintain your website, increased traffic, increased ranking, increased money and efficiency.
Cons - until google actually makes an algo change that effects autoblogs, there are no cons.

Lets get this straight guys, the last algo change, had no effect over duplicate content, quality content, or anything of the sort. The effect it had was about RELEVANT content. Autoblogs are niche related, and have relevant content.

What does google see as relevant content? Content that has links behind it. EZA took a hit because a lot of the articles had no juice pointed to them. I believe the algo change, took away a certain amount of home page PR juice, being trickled down throughout the site. That is it, that is all.

The articles that were ranking before the algo change, were ranking mostly due to the authority of the site. The articles that were ranking after the change, was due to the amount of links behind the article, getting its own juice outside the domain.

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WillR

13 years ago

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

Cons - until google actually makes an algo change that effects autoblogs, there are no cons.

That's the biggest 'CON' of all. It's only a matter of time. I don't want to build my long-term business around tactics that I can 'get away with' at the moment. That is not a way to build a sustainable business.

It's funny. People will continue to build auto-blogs but the day the search engines wipe them out you will all be on the forum complaining about your traffic going to zero. It's happened before and it will happen again.

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iAmNameLess

13 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

That's the biggest 'CON' of all. It's only a matter of time. I don't want to build my long-term business around tactics that I can 'get away with' at the moment. That is not a way to build a sustainable business.

It's funny. People will continue to build auto-blogs but the day the search engines wipe them out you will all be on the forum complaining about your traffic going to zero. It's happened before and it will happen again.

I don't think so Will.... No matter WHAT you do in internet marketing you will have to make changes. If you can't deal with making changes, you aren't a good fit in IM.

Autoblogs, adsense, amazon, clickback, it is all supplemental, it isn't my main source of income.

IF google ever does something about autoblogs, it is going to backfire... autoblogs will take content right away, then it is a race to see who gets indexed first. So what you're suggesting, is that google will make an update, that will probably effect original content too. LOL.

I dunno, do what you want, but I'm going to do whatever makes me money. If all my autoblogs died tomorrow, I would be perfectly okay.

Regardless of your decision, it would be foolish to put all your eggs in one basket.

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WillR

13 years ago

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

IF google ever does something about autoblogs, it is going to backfire... autoblogs will take content right away, then it is a race to see who gets indexed first.

All it would be taking away is content that can already be found elsewhere. An auto-blog in the true sense of the word is a blog that automatically pulls in and publishes information that is already available on the Internet.

Originally Posted by mikesan

But building blogs that use plugins to grab content automatically + adding your own unique content/coments is good imho.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

Well, looks like I am in the minority here... that is okay, you can think autoblogs are bad, I'll continue doing what makes me money, until it stops, then I'll switch it up.

No one said you were not making money. All I said was I would much rather spend a tiny little extra effort and a tiny bit of money and have my own unique content created rather than just using content that is already available elsewhere.

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CDarklock

13 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

People will continue to build auto-blogs but the day the search engines wipe them out you will all be on the forum complaining about your traffic going to zero.

Just a quick note.

I have asked people that I knew ran sites within a particular niche, whether they could answer some questions about that niche.

And they have manually directed me to autoblogs which were full of relevant, well-written content that answered my questions very well.

Autoblogs like that will NEVER have their traffic drop to zero because of an algo change at Google, because - auto or not - they are exactly what Google knows people really want to see in their search results.

Whenever someone says "autoblog," everyone gets this image in their head of a blog that has no real editorial oversight or focused direction, and just scrapes articles at random from a massive list of unrelated sites that don't allow reuse of their content.

The reality, for most people who actually MAKE MONEY with autoblogs, is that every article is manually approved by a human being, the sources are informed and have given consent (sometimes even being compensated), and the subject of the site is carefully selected and retained.

It is, in short, an authority site constructed with permission from the best content of other authority sites.

And it makes the average manually-maintained authority site look like dog meat.

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WillR

13 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Whenever someone says "autoblog," everyone gets this image in their head of a blog that has no real editorial oversight or focused direction, and just scrapes articles at random from a massive list of unrelated sites that don't allow reuse of their content.

Actually, that's exactly what I was thinking. When I hear the word auto-blog I am talking about those set and forget scripts people load on to their server. Isn't that what an auto-blog is in the true sense of the word?

Originally Posted by CDarklock

The reality, for most people who actually MAKE MONEY with autoblogs, is that every article is manually approved by a human being, the sources are informed and have given consent (sometimes even being compensated), and the subject of the site is carefully selected and retained.

The blogs you are talking about I would not refer to as an auto-blog. However EZA was a site that manually approves each article and they certainly took a hit?

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iAmNameLess 13 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

The blogs you are talking about I would not refer to as an auto-blog. However EZA was a site that manually approves each article and they certainly took a hit?

They did, and it wasn't due to duplicate content or lack of unique content, it was due to lack of RELEVANT content. Google sees relevant content as, something of use, something that gets backlinks to. The 25% of articles still ranking on EZA, are ranking because of the juice being pointed to it, outside of the EZA domain.
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CDarklock

13 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

Isn't that what an auto-blog is in the true sense of the word?

That depends on whom you ask.

If you ask people who hate autoblogs, never build them, and think they should be banned from the internet... yeah, that's what they call the true sense of the word.

But if I wanted to know the true definition of "autoblog," I'd go ask someone who makes his living on autoblogs.

So when people in the former group come in here ranting and raving and trying to argue with the latter group, I sort of have to scratch my head and wonder WTF they are thinking.

I swear, it is like a high school student arguing with a doctor about what "true" medical practice is. I'm sure that high school student is very smart and cares very much about the subject, but when you come right down to it, he's just not qualified to have an opinion on it. He doesn't have the training. He doesn't have the experience. And he sure as hell doesn't use his opinions to make a living.

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MarketingVet09

13 years ago

To Cdarklock, not to disagree that autoblogs can be profitable or anything like that, but just to let you know the perspective I personally had with what I was saying:

Would you agree that shortcuts could be detrimental to an Internet Marketers long term knowledge set and success?

Basically what I'm saying is, I feel it teaches the wrong habits.

Like, someone could come right now and ask can they make money on Craigslist... Sure they can.. But it's not something I would suggest because them going straight to the shortcut is going to hurt there overall skill set in the long run.

Just as an example to the original poster: People preach about Your Email List, building a great relationship, giving quality etc, and things like that...

Creating an autoblog (a lazy short cut) does not promote these types of habits... An autoblog to me is like taking some HCG diet drops or getting Gastric bypass surgery because you're too lazy to work at it on your own.. Sure you can get a quick fix, but in the long run, doing it naturally would have taught some principles that you'll NEVER get back once you go the shortcut route...

Unless of course you hit the reset button 5 years later like I did...

Writing articles with proper keywords (seo), learning to provide genuine and quality content (building a list / relationships), hiring someone to write the articles for you (dabbling in outsourcing), just simply hard work (learning patience) ... I could go on...

Taking a short cut, in the long run, is going to hurt you, IMO...

Again, this is just coming from someone who has been there and done that.

I wish to god I could rewind 5 years, never made that 45k the lazy way, actually paid attention when people said "the money is in the list", and used some patience and learned things from the ground up...

So, to each its own. But this is my perspective on it. If you want to Master Internet marketing and learn the ins and outs from all angles, it's going to take making some mistakes and time to get there...

Last thing I'll say, as it's 4am and I'm rambling because I'm bored...

If you wanted to be a doctor, would you take your most important tests with a cheat sheet? I mean sure you'll make some money for a little while, but how long before it catches up with you? Where as if you had just studied, aced the tests the right way, your foundation will be rock solid and you'll never have anything to worry about, and actually make way more money in the long run because you can continue to expand and improve on the core fundamentals that you learned in the beginning?

All that being said, even if you just want to make some quick money and then really learn things and get your hands dirty later on, I'd go with CPA over Autoblogs any day...

So either way autoblogs is a waste of time IMO.

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MarketingVet09 13 years ago

Oh, and Clark I'm actually just now reading your last message. Did you scale up on autoblogs after you already knew how everything works as far as IM?

It seems the thread starter doesn't know too much, as he's asking this question. Of course if you exploded your autoblog empire after knowing what you're doing, that's different, and I'd never try to discount anything you're saying as you have more experience than me.

Every situation is different.
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- para10 13 years ago
  
  I've tried auto blogging software (ABS) and to be honest, the benefits weren't all there.
  
  One thing to understand about them, is you need to create a lot of sites to actually see money come in (think 50 websites). Although money will start coming in, you won't learn!
  
  In order to start making decent money in affiliate marketing, you need to fully understand the process. With ABS you skip a lot of the work and losing the opportunity to learn.
  
  My advice, don't do it, and do it yourself. You'll create much more unique sites, and over time you'll learn how the system works.
  
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Rsberg

13 years ago

I know you didn't address me with your post but I'm going to chime in anyway...