Mentor me for a % of future earnings.

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Hi my name is Rob,

I don't know if this would be of interest to anybody. I am looking for somebody to mentor me, I am new to internet marketing. I have one site which I am learning a little about seo and general internet marketing from.

Here is my proposal, I would be willing to give away a percentage of my earnings for an amount of time from the day I make my first penny online. I don't know if anybody has ever done something like this before. Not sure of the percentage or how long I would give away it away for, this would all be fully negotiable with the right person. I would be willing to sign contracts stating what we would agree on.

What I can say is that I will be 100% committed to it, so the more you put into me the more money you could get. If anybody is interested then please could you leave your email, so I can get in touch as I am not allowed to leave my email due to not enough posts, and we can take it from there. Also if anybody out there thinks this would be a bad move on my part could you please advice me, and maybe point me in the right direction.

Thank you, and I look forward to hearing your comments Rob.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Yes, I can help you. Please contact me via PM or on Skype.

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    • Originally Posted by Izaya View Post

      Just a few things

      - No one knows you ( no trust for you)

      - Nothing's going to stop you from breaking your promise of %

      - You might give up and make nothing ( so your mentor loses out )

      - It's a bad deal for you, When your making 1k+ a day do you really want to give % to someone who may have taught you only a little bit or got you started?

      - Why you and not someone else? What do you bring to the table? Are you skilled in programming, marketing? anything at all?

      I wouldn't do this type a deal even with friends offline, let alone online, goodluck.
      I agree with you, but without trust where will we all get then? Sometimes you just have to take chances and if the person has good moral values, then they will withhold their end of the promise. Thus that is what I believe.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
      Originally Posted by Izaya View Post

      Just a few things

      - No one knows you ( no trust for you)

      - Nothing's going to stop you from breaking your promise of %

      - You might give up and make nothing ( so your mentor loses out )

      - It's a bad deal for you, When your making 1k+ a day do you really want to give % to someone who may have taught you only a little bit or got you started?

      - Why you and not someone else? What do you bring to the table? Are you skilled in programming, marketing? anything at all?

      I wouldn't do this type a deal even with friends offline, let alone online, goodluck.
      These are all good points to bring up. I don't think that any mentor would really want to do this. I like to help people out for free answering questions and what not but for full on mentoring I would charge a price other than a commission.
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  • Profile picture of the author werna klue
    Hi Rob

    How long have you been doing IM? There are many great sources to learn internet marketing.

    Being in this forum already is a great step forward. The people here are friendly and you will find a lot of useful information that will not cost you a penny.

    My advise: I am no expert -- save your money and start learning as much as you can right here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ny-takers.html
    Read that similar thread...
    The OP over there got an offer: the mentor will take 100% for 6 months.
    Are you ready for something similar?
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    • Profile picture of the author DudleyDog
      Hi Rob,

      I'm sure I will be able to help. Either Skype me or contact me through my website link.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Seems to me the OP hasn't said anything that should elicit negative responses.

      I glanced at the thread in your link Ivan, which you said is similar, but I see key differences. The glaringly hostile tone of the OP (who deserved the sarcasm he got) in that thread is absent in this one.

      By no means should Rob even consider working for free for 6 months-ridiculous. He can learn what he needs to know to turn a profit in one month, then keep learning by investing part of the profit in his continued education.

      He'll mostly learn by doing anyway, with a small amount of guidance-not by having constant attention, or being overloaded with input.

      Basically, the OP in the "similar" thread was saying "I think you gurus are full of b*llsh*t, so prove me wrong by mentoring me, and in exchange I'll admit I was wrong".

      By contrast the tone of Rob's post is one of humility. He's asking for help, and offering to share profits from his work, following a mentor's advice, rather than issuing a belligerent challenge, and offering nothing in return.

      He is also admitting that he doesn't know if this is the right approach, doesn't know the right percentage, or how long to pay it, etc. In other words, he's very open-minded, and willing to make a deal that works, with terms suggested by the mentor.

      Izaya raised valid concerns, but the way they were framed assumes dishonesty and a bad outcome.

      It's true that he's not known so the trust factor isn't in his favor. There are ways to mitigate that concern. One of the easiest that comes to mind is simply to have the mentor retain ownership of part or all of the business/es. That way it's Rob that would have to do his due diligence, not the other way around.

      Depending on the business model, there are ways it could work.

      For example maybe Rob finds a mentor that builds numerous quick-to-create profit-making niche blogs, and could simply teach Rob by example-and have Rob create and promote blogs in the same manner.

      In exchange for a weekly email assignment with brief daily action reports from Rob, and perhaps a mid-week "attaboy", or "pick up the pace" from the mentor, the domains of half the blogs Rob creates and promotes could stay in the mentor's possession, and registration could even be paid by Rob, and the other half, Rob could keep.

      To make it easy, with no contract enforcement needed, the first blog Rob creates could be the mentor's, the next one Rob's, etc. That way Rob pays for the brief guidance he gets on each project by first doing one for the mentor.

      The OP is simply asking to do a win/win JV with an experienced partner, and demonstrating openness to suggestions on how to structure it. With a little creativity, such an arrangement, while not guaranteed, could work. If done right, the mentor would still profit from his efforts even if the OP drops the ball at some point, and almost no effort would be put in before the mentor gets a payoff-the first blog-so there would really be no downside.

      In my opinion, to just shoot him down because you assume the partner would get burned, or to compare him to a hostile, frustrated newbie that's trying to get something for nothing is excessively negative.

      It's always easier to think of why something can't work, but if you give yourself the opposite challenge, I think there are ways such a partnership might work well, be rewarding for both sides, and possibly even yield a long term friendship, and/or multiple future successful JVs.

      Personally, I think the best course of action for you, Rob, is to either follow werna's advice and implement some of the great advice to be found on this forum, or join an already existing coaching/mentoring program after doing your due diligence on the person/s behind it.

      There are some great values available for very little investment-just pick carefully, and avoid the hype-if it sounds too good to be true...you know.

      Then, as it's been said many times on this forum, the trick is to stick with one plan that isn't too complicated, without getting distracted by new "shiny objects"-the latest WSO showing you how to "make $500 by this time tomorrow"-rarely does anyone make those work.

      There are so many ways to make money online that the overwhelm factor can just kill your chances, so focus is the key (coming from a classic "entrepreneur's ADD" sufferer). Walk before you run, and don't fall for the "easy button"-it's fake, and will kill your chances of success.
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    I can help you for free. I give you a free consultation where I explain you exactly what you need to do. That way, you see it does work and you can outsource a lot of time consuming job to my services once you have the money . Just send me a PM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Gray
    Here we go again.

    An outburst of these types of threads. Just cause one person did, now there is going to be a burst of people whom want coaching for free. Hey, Let's set a social standard for this!
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  • Profile picture of the author rob1985
    Hi everyone,

    Thank you all for your advice. First I do only have a couple on months experience. I do have one site which I have been working on you can see it by clicking on the links below. I am in the middle of creating some better content for the homepage. If you want to have a look at some of the links I have built to this site then please do so. The site I have is just a trial and error site really while I learn a bit about driving traffic to a site.

    I am aware that in order to succeed as an internet marketer, it will take a lot of hard work and time, I don't expect it to happen overnight and I am aware I will not get the help I am after for free.

    To everyone that are offering to help I will be in touch soon. At the moment I am weighing up my options.

    Thank you all very much Rob.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    ^^^Maybe Greg will mentor you.

    I personally, will offer help and answer questions here in this forum, but I would never mentor, teach, train, people for free. It is my time it takes up and it is stuff you could learn on your own anyway.

    I suggest just reading up and doing it yourself.
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