List Building Test From PTC Traffic Source....Results!

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Well, i have been an idiot.

But, you learn from mistakes. Thats what i would put it as.

I went to Neobux, ordered 5000 clicks = $80.

Setup a squeeze page, and the works.

Over 24hr period, 5000 views, 66 subscriptions onto my list, 0 sales.

So, if you ever think about it, don't!
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  • But those people are looking for ways to make money online. That's why they have joined for such "get paid to click" sites. Why not lead them to other ways of making money online.

    CPA, clickbank make money online products, other survey sites are just examples. Just my opinion!
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    • I did lead them to other ways, but didn't convert
  • Thanks for sharing your results with us Clubland.

    Few years ago I tried advertising on one of those PTC sites (I'm not sure if it was Neobux or some other), and sent them to a squeeze page. I remember I got few optins, 0 sales, so it wasn't worth it for me.

    John
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  • Think about it. If they knew how to get 5000 targeted names, they would send
    their own offer. At 2 or 3 % they would get 125 or so takers - with only a $10
    each profit they would make $1250, not $80 from you.

    Hugh
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  • Hi Clubland,
    PTC traffic is one of the worst kind of traffic you can get online.Sure these people are looking to make some money online but they are freebie seekers.

    One more thing,not all the hits you get from these sites are real hits.In most of the cases,The PTC owners mix bot hits with real traffic.

    There is virtually no use of this crap traffic except may be when you go for selling your site and want to appear your traffic stats look more attractive.
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    • Yeah thanks for sharing this I know now to stay away from those kind of sites and work on improving my organic traffic methods. PPC works the same way sometimes you get a ton of clicks and no conversions and with the cost of ppc on some keywords it is just not worth it. Anyways I wish you luck on finding a way to drive more traffic to your site.
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  • Sorry to hear your story, thanks for sharing it for the benefit of those who don't understand why they should avoid paid traffic.

    There's a WSO up right now about this specific traffic source, and it's being peddled to the sheep as if it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. :rolleyes:

    Neobux, or any PTC-based advertising, is usually a waste of money and time. These pitches prey on our laziness as a core sales point..."just set it and forget it!"

    Real PPC takes testing, research, tremendous analysis, and a bullet-proof funnel to even begin to see profits. Never be tempted by shortcuts that seem to be too good to be true.
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  • Thanks for updating that my friend...I was going to do that in future...but you helped me not to go for it..

    Alam
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  • I suspect that you are thinking of this in the wrong way...

    Consider this:

    66 subscribers from 5000 visitors is a conversion rate of 1.32%.

    Your cost per new subscriber was $1.21.

    They say the average mailing list if effectively marketed will earn $1 per subscriber per month.

    So your promotion should pay for itself in 5 weeks.

    But it looks like you are only looking at today to determine the value of your subscriber.

    Since these people just met you, your chances of a quick sale are diminished. But if you give people time to get to know you, you may find that those same people who are not spending money today may spend a ton of money tomorrow.

    Additionally, according to Yanik Silver, something like 89% of people will convert somewhere between the 2nd and 8th contact.

    Yet, you are judging the value earned based on your first contact only?

    People make a ton of money doing exactly what you have suggested here to be a waste of your money...

    But the ball is in your court... If you don't take advantage of the opportunity you have been given, you will never see profits from the money you invested for your test...

    If you fail to take advantage of this opportunity, it was not Neobux that failed you, but it will be you that failed you...
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    • Yeah but it's very poor quality traffic. You won't make sales as the people using that site clicking links for 1 cent have no money to buy any products.
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  • I played with Neobux for about a month just on my off time (takes 2 mins or so) and I could reinforce the fact that people are less likely to buy simply on the premise that when you're doing this kind of program you basically click the ad and then jump over to another tab in your browser, wait a minute and then close the ad.

    In all, most people NEVER look at your ad.

    I'd say avoid it at all costs; much better ways out there to create opt-in's.

    Thanks for sharing your experience Clubland.
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  • Sorry to hear that. $80 is alot of money consider how much more targeted it would be if you only do PPC with it. I guess most people who just started out will want to see the subscriber's list grow...regardless of where it comes from...

    I suggest the next time you do a campaign, focus on channels that brings in targeted traffic. The list you own will be more valuable...Cheers!
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  • You should split your poor traffic sources and high quality traffic sources into different lists.

    Anytime I pay for traffic, be it a PPC, solo ad, banner, etc, that traffic will go to a list of paid traffic sources. This list gets promoted to a little more often and includes a one time offer right after they confirm. I want to transfer as many of these paid subscribers into buyers as soon as possible. It may convert less, but if you had a OTO for those 60 subscribers, you might of seen your investment back right away.

    For my high quality traffic from places like forums, article marketing, joint ventures, etc, they go to a list with other high quality subscribers. There is no OTO after subscription and I slow sell my products.

    The content is mostly the same quality in both lists though...the paid traffic sources is expected to be more freebie seekers/etc.

    This also helps when you set up joint ventures. You don't want to email blast a crappy list you've built from only paid sources. You will get a horrible click thru rate for your venture partner. If you sent the venture email to the high quality traffic, the response is always better. This makes you look better to your partner and will open more venture opportunities easier. If everyone was on the same list, your conversions would be hurting do to the poor traffic sources.
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    • I have been email marketing for years, so i know the score. I was just doing the numbers on first contact, also the fact i had a OTO. I am a firm beliver of OTO's and giving something away that is worth a lot. But, i do see where you are coming from. I do still have this list, and still sending messages to them. So, like you explained, only time will tell.

      Please correct me if i am wrong. But, you are assuming i am new to email marketing, aren't you?

      Basically, there is hype going around that this form of paid traffic is the bees knees. I just wanted to show my initial results from this kind of traffic.

      Would love to see your results, if you kept a record. How long did you keep emailing to them, before you scrapped the list?

      You note very good points here. Especially about JV's, but i did put up a OTO, and no one brought a $3 product. Because i have been testing the $7, $17, $27, basically pricing with 7's at the end, and i see 3's working better. However, this isn't so with PTC traffic.
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  • Yea, if you had no buyers then that traffic source is crap. I wouldn't waste time or money for any subscribers from them.

    That's another big reason I put OTOs up for paid traffic sources...you instantly know if you are getting any buyers even from a crappy traffic source.
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  • Colin,

    Good to know you have long enough experience with this.

    I just wanted to know for myself, what kind of results i get. Because there just seems like there is more hype over this traffic converting and getting hundreds on your list.

    Well, we all learn the hard way, also i have the opportunity to show my results i got from this, and my recommendations for it.

    Which is, don't do it!
  • You could have got 4-10 times targetted traffic if you invested the same amount of money in warrior forum!
  • I just purchased 2500 clicks for $5 as per someone's suggestion, claiming that you can get 100 subs or more. Thought I'd just try it out for s & g. Maybe I'll just keep sending them to Adsense pages or something.
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    • don't do that, adwords will ban your account...

      PTC sites have their places - 66 subs for $80 is not a total loss - but could have been better results had you spent that on a 250 click solo ad - probably could of got 100 plus subs...

      But you never know until you test, and you have so now you won't have to wonder 'what if'...

      Cheers
  • i think incentivized traffic wouldn't just cut it, the motivation would not be there.
  • Seems like my you acted upon my FREE WSO. Anyway I am explaining what you have to there. Unlike the OP I got some great success. Just find the correct monetize and free offer to get them to sign up.

    Just play around with this technique and you will get some really nice profit out of this technique.
  • Thank you for sharing this info. There are alot of factors that can come into play when doing this though. I'm sure some people have had great success. I think everyone wants to piggy back off of what works for another . but everyone's biz is not setup the same way and does not offer the same info. How can you compare your success to anothers unless you are aselling the exact same thing. Can't compare apples to oranges here.

    Peace and Love,

    Anthony Spencer
  • Let me give you another idea, try the warriorforum instead!

    Use the banner feature, you can get a gaurenteed number of 300 optins minimum.

    Or post a WSO..this is where the money is when it comes to IM!

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  • Hi, I'm new to all this what is a squeeze page? Sorry to about spending money on something that didn't work.

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