Clickbank allows cheating??

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I noticed several merchants have a separate landing for CB links and the home page has a paypal or 1shopping cart payment link. No.. the visitor is not redirected to the CB page if he lands on the home page. How is CB allowing this???
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  • Profile picture of the author NinjaReports
    There are scripts that have a clickbank payment link if the visitor arrives via a clickbank affiliate link, but use paypal or some other payment processor if the visitor has not been sent through an affiliate link or has no CB cookie. This way the product seller can take payments through clickbank and paypal but affiliates still get credited like they normally would.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
    Originally Posted by woracal View Post

    I noticed several merchants have a separate landing for CB links and the home page has a paypal or 1shopping cart payment link. No.. the visitor is not redirected to the CB page if he lands on the home page. How is CB allowing this???
    I'm not quite sure what you're saying - where does the CB affiliate link take you? To a page with a CB payment link? If so, then I don't see the problem as long as the affiliate is getting credit.

    I'm not sure what the home page has to do with this. The important thing is where the affiliate link takes you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Prashaant
    No... on the merchants i checked out.. theres no such script. The page goes to the home page which has NO cb payment link.

    Chris: To answer your question - The clickbank link takes you to a page with the CB payment processor. That's ok. But what about returning visitors who may not buy in the first visit? We all know that very few sales happen in the first visit. If the visitor returns to the website to buy, they buy through the 1shoppingcart link, not the CB link - there is no CB link on the home page! So no commissions for the affiliate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
      Originally Posted by woracal View Post

      Chris: To answer your question - The clickbank link takes you to a page with the CB payment processor. That's ok. But what about returning visitors who may not buy in the first visit? We all know that very few sales happen in the first visit. If the visitor returns to the website to buy, they buy through the 1shoppingcart link, not the CB link - there is no CB link on the home page! So no commissions for the affiliate.
      How are they getting back to the site? By following the affiliate link again? From a bookmark?

      What if they come back through someone else's affiliate link or delete cookies? You don't get credit then, either.

      I think the vast majority who don't buy on the first visit don't come back to the site, because they lose interest or buy something else or forget what site it was, unless there is an opt-in form on the site to remind them. The number of sales you are actually losing (rather than theoretically) is probably minimal if any.

      I had thought maybe you were talking about sites where the CB aff link actually goes to a page with just a Paypal or 1sc link, which IS a big problem that I've actually seen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
    If it's clearly doing something that is wrong report it to Clickbank
    and let them take care of it!

    Do this. Click on a cb affiliate for this site and then close the window
    after the page has been loaded. Now type in the url and if your
    taken to a page where your option is paypal then report it because
    that's breaking the CB rules.

    Ebbi
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  • Profile picture of the author Prashaant
    I just did.... it goes straight to the home page - no CB link there. Sad to say... a couple of them are warriors on this forum..
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  • Profile picture of the author Prashaant
    I get sales even 3 weeks after the first visit, and it has happened several times. I've tested this. But in this case when the visitor returns (obviously to the home page), it's paypal or some other payment processor. This is abuse of the system.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean Kelly
      All my sites only offer the Clickbank payment option if somebody arrived via a hoplink.
      This info is stored in the user's cookie for a year so that no matter how they come back (eg: url without hoplink or aff id) then the clickbank payment option is still their only way to pay.

      If somebody arrives without an affiliate id in the url then all the payment options are displayed.

      This is important to make sure that affiliates receive their commissions for their hard work.

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      • Profile picture of the author Jim M
        Hi,

        There appears to be a flaw in the Clickbank system.

        I put my xSitePro 2 Made Easy course on to clickbank a few months ago - the first product I put there - I wasn't particularly happy when after a short time links to my product were turning up on all sorts of cr*p scraper type sites, which personally when I land on I just click the back button.

        On 2nd October I asked Clickbank what I needed to do to stop promoting it for a while whilst I decided what to do with it, this is the email I received bank:-

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        Hello Jim,

        Thank you for your inquiry. If you would like to suspend the sale of your product, you may simply place the product in "Test Mode" until you are ready to begin selling again.

        Please let me know if there is anything else that I may do to assist you.

        Thank you.

        Kylee G.
        ClickBank Client Service
        ksg@clickbank.com
        www.clickbank.com

        __________________________________________________ __

        Prompted by the content of your post I decided to check it out. My product is still in test mode at clickbank, and doesn't show up in the marketplace, but when I do a search in Google I find it is still being promoted via several sites.

        However the webpage being used to promote it was ammended when I put the product back into test mode. This page actually no longer exists within my site on the site I clicked through on it's obvious that my original page has been copied into this persons site:

        Home - XsitePro2 Made Easy - if you look in the address bar you'll see it's not my site your on.

        So it would appear that when a product is changed into test mode, whilst it is removed from the marketplace area, affiliates are not made aware by Clickbank that the product is currently not available for promotion.

        Having uncovered this, I can see how sellers could innocently fall foul of a change in the way they choose to promote a product, due to two things:

        1: Clickbank not updating affiliates automatically to stop promoting.

        2: Affiliates failing to update their promotion pages frequently

        Either way, it may well be that a number of members within this forum are unknowingly in a similar position.

        This is the first product I have promoted via clickbank - and it will be most certainly be my last.

        Calling Sam Stephens - get a move on with your affiliate management addon for DLGuard!
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        • Profile picture of the author scraggz
          I'm a little puzzled by your question. I wasn't aware that Clickbank had an exclusivity clause in their agreement and I'm not sure that legally they'd be allowed to.
          If a customer arrives at a site other than through a clickbank affiliate or the marketplace why should they get the commission?
          Can you point out where in Clickbank's policies this laid out?
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