I can't do it - it's not working..

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I've been trying to do internet marketing for the last week or, 10 days - and it's just very difficult...

I've tried things, I've researched - I've checked the competition. Spent $100 with eBooks, and just cannot get it!

Can anyone give any advice? :/
Do you think maybe it's just not for me?

OR, do you think I'm not trying hard enough.?
I just can't get the encouragement to do it anymore.

Can someone help me maybe get back up?
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  • Profile picture of the author Meozyn
    your'e in the wrong mindset in my opinion. Just how you said "I can't" proves that. You should be saying I know i can do this but Fu*k its challenging! Stop spending money on ebooks, most of the info you can find it for free. Carry on, carry on, carry on! Bloody hell if it were possible to be a successful internet marketer in 1 week/10 days wouldnt every1 be doing it?? PERSEVERANCE
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    • Profile picture of the author steveo
      Originally Posted by Meozyn View Post

      your'e in the wrong mindset in my opinion. Just how you said "I can't" proves that. You should be saying I know i can do this but Fu*k its challenging! Stop spending money on ebooks, most of the info you can find it for free. Carry on, carry on, carry on! Bloody hell if it were possible to be a successful internet marketer in 1 week/10 days wouldnt every1 be doing it?? PERSEVERANCE
      sometimes understanding and accepting failure and trying a different approach is the best way man yeah? Keep taking risks and keep asking, stay green always keep growing in knowledge
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  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
    Uh, One week or 10 days?

    What was your goal in this short span? What did you hope to have accomplished in the 10 days?
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    • Profile picture of the author rowebil
      Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

      Uh, One week or 10 days?

      What was your goal in this short span? What did you hope to have accomplished in the 10 days?
      My goal was to atleast receive one sale.. I spent $40 PPC and haven't received one sale. Only 20 people on my mailing list, 12 on the other and 8 on the other.

      If I would have received one sale, I'd stick to Internet marketing - then outsource so I'll get 2 sales.

      I can get people to click my ads on Facebook, but I can't get them to submit emails or buy the product.
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      • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
        Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

        My goal was to atleast receive one sale.. I spent $40 PPC and haven't received one sale. Only 20 people on my mailing list, 12 on the other and 8 on the other.

        If I would have received one sale, I'd stick to Internet marketing - then outsource so I'll get 2 sales.
        If you're going to post on a forum that you're giving up, Internet Marketing is not for you... There are many people who spent a year trying EVERYTHING, to finally make there first sale, and to hit it off.

        Just saying.

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        • Profile picture of the author rowebil
          Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

          If you're going to post on a forum that you're giving up, Internet Marketing is not for you... There are many people who spent a year trying EVERYTHING, to finally make there first sale, and to hit it off.

          Just saying.

          Caleb

          PS Stop Buying E-books.. Join the WAR ROOM, and take action on just one thing.. Make it YOUR FOCUS. And then you'll make money
          I wasn't actually serious about giving up, I'd like to keep trying - but I mean, I just don't have the confidence anymore.

          What is the war room?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

        My goal was to atleast receive one sale.. I spent $40 PPC and haven't received one sale. Only 20 people on my mailing list, 12 on the other and 8 on the other.

        If I would have received one sale, I'd stick to Internet marketing - then outsource so I'll get 2 sales.

        I can get people to click my ads on Facebook, but I can't get them to submit emails or buy the product.
        Fair enough.

        Well, something is wrong with your funnel. The $40 for the ppc was used, so it sounds like you are on the right track but would have no idea unless I knew what your ads were exactly. Did you split test on the ppc campaign? Who did you use? Adwords? Yahoo? MSN? Only Facebook? Are you sure you targeted buyers with the ad and not just freebie seekers?

        Why do you have 3 mailing lists? Why not start with one?

        How many products have you tried to promote? Is the product really a good one?

        What other methods did you use to push traffic?
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        • Profile picture of the author rowebil
          Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

          Fair enough.

          Well, something is wrong with your funnel. The $40 for the ppc was used, so it sounds like you are on the right track but would have no idea unless I knew what your ads were exactly. Did you split test on the ppc campaign? Who did you use? Adwords? Yahoo? MSN? Only Facebook? Are you sure you targeted buyers with the ad and not just freebie seekers?

          Why do you have 3 mailing lists? Why not start with one?

          How many products have you tried to promote? Is the product really a good one?

          What other methods did you use to push traffic?
          Hello,

          I was using Facebook, a site that will advertise on to Facebook.
          Cubics.com

          I've heard that site was really good!
          I have NO idea what split testing a campaign is..

          I was targeting people who would be interested in the ad..
          3 mailing lists, because I was using 3 products to promote.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

        My goal was to atleast receive one sale.. I spent $40 PPC and haven't received one sale. Only 20 people on my mailing list, 12 on the other and 8 on the other.

        If I would have received one sale, I'd stick to Internet marketing - then outsource so I'll get 2 sales.

        I can get people to click my ads on Facebook, but I can't get them to submit emails or buy the product.
        Seriously? People spend hundreds and sometimes test things over several weeks before they hit a profitable PPC campaign. You can't be impatient with IM - it takes time to learn and implement a method successfully.

        With that said, PPC is one of the fastest ways to generate sales in IM. There are many moving parts to PPC, so test, tweak and improve things until they become profitable - 10 days is far too little time to get all this done, especially as a newbie. PPC has several components to it - the landing/squeeze pages, ad copy and keywords, among other things. Give yourself time to learn and get good at this, and you'll also need to budget at least several hundred to test and tweak all these parameters - you've barely even scratched the surface!

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        • Profile picture of the author jiminic2
          It's a very difficult type of business to get into. It takes a lot of work and time. I have limited time and funds, so I have to use both very carefully. I'm not rolling in the dough and probably won't for a while, but I just need some extra cash to pay bills.
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          • Profile picture of the author davidjames42973
            I think it took me 3 months until I made my first sale. If you're getting into internet marketing to make money fast, then I suggest you get a second job while you learn internet marketing. It took me over a year before I started to bring in extra money to keep me from being broke and it took me 3 years before I was able to work from home full time.

            Don't give up the dream. What I've always found is whenever I was desperate for money, then making money was more difficult. It really is about having the right frame of mind.
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      • Profile picture of the author danielsteven
        Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

        My goal was to atleast receive one sale.. I spent $40 PPC and haven't received one sale. Only 20 people on my mailing list, 12 on the other and 8 on the other.

        If I would have received one sale, I'd stick to Internet marketing - then outsource so I'll get 2 sales.

        I can get people to click my ads on Facebook, but I can't get them to submit emails or buy the product.
        That's the wrong mindset! First of all you have to realize that marketing is a numbers game. Most average sales copy converts at 2-3% so if you only have 20 people on your list (people interested in the free offer, if there was one) the numbers arent in your favor. You need to focus more on driving traffic, and you have to track what you do....especially if your new to PPC...most campaigns need tweaking before they are converting.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I just don't have the confidence anymore.
          It sounds like you had a common affliction of many new marketers - over-confidence and the belief that IM is easy to master and IM is fast money. It's especially common for those who have little work or business experience as they haven't witnessed the detail and work that is a daily part of any profitable business.

          You can't bargain with success by saying "if I get one sale, I'll keep going". It's your job to get to where success is and claim it. Success doesn't care if you show up or not. You have to define what level of success you want and then make a plan to get there.

          Learn all you can, follow your plan of what you need to do - and it gets easier as you go along. If you take a month off every time something doesn't work the way you want it to - you'll have a lot of time off in IM.

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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

        My goal was to atleast receive one sale.. I spent $40 PPC and haven't received one sale. Only 20 people on my mailing list, 12 on the other and 8 on the other.

        If I would have received one sale, I'd stick to Internet marketing - then outsource so I'll get 2 sales.

        I can get people to click my ads on Facebook, but I can't get them to submit emails or buy the product.
        On the contrary, I'd say what you have is working, as people are signing up, but at the rate you are going, it's definitely not profitable.

        Instead of paying for facebook ads, you need to learn to drive free traffic.

        The best way I can think of doing this right now, is to build your own content site. You need to be original, and build broad, deep, relevant content people will want to read. From there, you can do some pinging and social bookmarking to start driving traffic.

        You won't get much at first, so the goal is to collect info on the people who visit to build a list. Every time you put up new content (this is the real key..you gotta keep putting up new content or you won't get anywhere), in addition to the pinging and social bookmarking, you can notify the list of this content. Eventually, it becomes an unstoppable snowball, and you should start ruling the search engines like a king.

        Now from there, you can direct the list you built off your content site to other sites....like the one where you are trying to sell products from and start getting the sales you crave.

        I will tell you this is not easy or quick....it requires consistency and persistency on your part....but eventually it does work. I've seen guys do half of what I'm telling you and are raking in dough quietly and consistently. And the kicker is they have been doing it for over a decade, so this isn't a new fad or some gimick...it's the way things are supposed to be!

        You're on the right track for sure....but right now, you are stuck on the 50 yard line....keep going and learning, and you can drive this into the end zone....just don't quit!
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  • Profile picture of the author cweber
    LOL...keep working, it will take longer than 10 days. Heck I've been at it for over a year so far and am finally just starting to make sales consistently. Stick with one thing until it works and duplicate it. You seem to be doing facebook, PPC, list building all at the same time. Just stick with 1 method to start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonas B
    stick to 1 thing, as you say by yourself you got 3 lists.. while you should only have 1 of 29 people.. also I TAKES TIME.. here is a little story:

    i joined too and was motivated.. but as my sites didn't rank well i was like **** off its nothing for me.. i forgot about the sites.. some days ago i checked and they were ranking in the top 100, my first was was averaged position 20-30 in a competition with 21,100 results with allintitle, only by doing anything then SEO.

    I am someone who wants to see results by my OWN so i can really see it works and it's not bull****.. it didn't happen fast.. it took a good 2 months and now i see it IS really possible.. now i just need to focus on creating linkwheels and backlinks for it as this will boost it up to page 1 (i believe although) or at least get me some daily visitors! and then i will be able to have conversions..

    now 2-3 months is a lot of time if u expect it to happen tomorrow but it was my own fault also because i started with a competitive niche (21,100 results allintitle is not nothing) so i suggest you START with like 1000 allintitle or what ever and have some decent traffic.. also KEYWORD RESEARCH TAKES TIME

    hope it helps lol
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    • Profile picture of the author MagicAce
      If you're going to give up after ten days then this is not for you. I've been an it for 8 months now and still strugling but making progress. First you have to find what is working for you, then expand, then expand to other things. You have a long way ahead you.

      There are very few people that starts making money immediately in internet marketing. They are very lucky!
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    • Profile picture of the author rowebil
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      The WAR ROOM is the premium warrior forum section... aka where the real stuff is shared.

      Caleb
      So the working eBooks are in there - right?
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      • Profile picture of the author garben2011
        Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

        So the working eBooks are in there - right
        Depends on what you mean by working...

        I think maybe you have set some urealistic expectations and I am not blaming you for that.

        Just don't actually pay any attention to all of the headlines for IM products you see talking about making money in hours or days. Or ranking on the first page of google in days or weeks.

        Those headlines really create unrealistic expectations for people. But keep in mind they are just to get your attention and sell a product. Don't take it literally. Normally, in any industry they would be banned but it is quite common in IM to see outlandish (best of the very best of luck examples) used in the headlines.

        So, what exactly are your goals? You want to do what within how much time?
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  • Profile picture of the author SandyDuPlessis
    After only 10 days, I am not surprised it is not working. You are going to need a lot longer than that.

    first you have to decided what niche you want to work in, then you must decided what you are going to do within that niche.

    Before you start the "doing" you are going to need to build a list, which means writing or getting a report written (you can always outsource to oDesk) then setting up a squeeze page with the report as a giveaway.

    This of course means you are going to have to have an autoresponder and a whole series of interesting little mails related to your chosen niche.

    Having got that far, you will need to promote the giveaway in a variety of ways.

    While all that is going on and you are waiting for your list to grow and which will take quite some time, you can start researching your keywords, writing relevant articles, building your site and offer whatever service or product that you have available.

    Of course what I have written is very simplistic since I have no idea what it is you have been trying to do or what niche you are trying to get involved in.

    It takes patience, time and dedication to become successful in any business and Internet Marketing is no different.
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  • Profile picture of the author SShip
    Don't get the failing feeling this soon after starting. Internet marketing takes work and lots of it. You won't start seeing results over night and don't listen to those that tell you otherwise. You need to take baby steps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Themeplated
    You'll need work a lot longer than 10 days to see real results.
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  • Profile picture of the author rowebil
    So maybe take a small break and give it a rest - then try again?
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    • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
      The worst thing you can do when starting this business is to jump right into PPC..

      To be honest, you can read everything you want on these forums but the only way your going to actually learn how to do everything is by trial and error.

      When I first started I wasted $300 on PPC.. Then moved to PPV to try a few campaigns that my brother was killing it with PPC.. and i still struggled.

      Now I'm working with SEO and finally making daily income..

      What I'm trying to say is learn SEO and get into the free traffic methods, this way you can learn everything you need to know and it's free.

      Then once you have some websites making daily revenue jump into PPC campaigns with the proven methods that work..

      You can't be lazy in this business and give up right away.. be determined. It's hard as hell, but it beats going to school for 5 years wasting valuable time.

      Goodluck,

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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

        The worst thing you can do when starting this business is to jump right into PPC..
        Not really. Depends on if you have the budget to do it. PPC can be the fastest and easiest way if you are smart about it.

        It is no different than running an ad in the local paper - which would cost you money as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
          Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

          Not really. Depends on if you have the budget to do it. PPC can be the fastest and easiest way if you are smart about it.

          It is no different than running an ad in the local paper - which would cost you money as well.
          Sorry, was just running on past experiences :p
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      • Profile picture of the author RhondaG
        I actually feel like that the reason some people want to give up after just a week or two is because of all the hype that is floating around the Internet that You can make a millions dollars practically overnight with just a few secrets!

        I'm so tired of that hogwash! Leaning to make money online takes study, hard work, and the correct mindset. If you are willing to do that you can make it.

        An online business takes the same kind of hard work that a brick and motar business does, except that eventually, if you have worked it correctly, you will be making money easier and with less work. It kind of has a snowball effect.

        For newbies to this business, stop buying every ebook that comes along. Pick one method of business to study at a time. Once you are making money with that one, then add another. You don't have to make a million dollars off one website, or even $1000. If you can make $250 per month off one website, then just add 9 more and you will have a good start.

        There is a lot of free information online, in forums, and on blogs and websites. You can learn a lot from free information and then when you can afford to purchase other, more indepth information, you will be ready and will understand the concept a lot better.

        The important thing is to never give up. If this is the life you want, then don't stop until you get it.
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        • Profile picture of the author garben2011
          Originally Posted by RhondaG View Post

          I actually feel like that the reason some people want to give up after just a week or two is because of all the hype that is floating around the Internet that You can make a millions dollars practically overnight with just a few secrets!
          Wow! I didn't see your reply when I made mine.

          I agree with you completely. Those outlandish headlines really do set highly unrealistic expectations. When people don't make $1k within a week they wonder what is wrong with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

      So maybe take a small break and give it a rest - then try again?
      I wouldn't give it a break.

      I would take the best of the 3 offers, focus first on that offer and do everything you can to make it convert.

      Facebook is not the only way out there to market a product, and I bet there are other ways to drive traffic to the offer.

      Spend the time looking into other models and ways to promote the offer.

      If you are not willing to try some other ways than PPC then be prepared to spend some money testing different ads (split testing) and testing other paid ad choices.

      Tracking is key, and testing is key.

      This is how you determine what is not working for you so you get down more quickly to what does work.

      Of those signups to your list - how many found the page your autoresponder is on? Do you think more people might have actually seen the ads who did not sign up?

      Oh, btw - some people try to start listbuilding and go months without even getting a sign up. So there you have some level of success - but it can always be improved upon.

      Also, you can always test first to see if an offer is converting before slapping a list up.

      I started with one product, used adwords, got my first sale 2-3 days later (no list, just went for the sale) then I tested different ads during different times of the day and on different days. I got different results doing this. Biggest money was seen on weekends. One ad seemed to convert better than others. Added more content to my site and saw a rise in conversions.

      Test, track, tweek, rinse, repeat.

      10 days is a drop in the bucket if you are looking to build a long term sustainable business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Casper C
    rowebil, it can take a month to make your first sale, and that's IF you do things right.. normally it takes longer than that if you're a newbie, as there are a lot of mistakes to learn from. Just try and push forward with it, but if you're really having trouble keeping motivated, then make sure you're in a niche that really interests you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Gray
    Why did you spend $100 on eBooks? There is no reason you
    should be throwing away money like that. There is plenty of
    free information on this forum. You just need to spend some
    time looking for it. Sorry, but the way you've been doing it
    simply won't work for numerous reasons. Someone whom is
    easily blinded by a great sales copy shouldn't be doing this
    in all honesty. Find a system that works for you and then
    rinse and repeat.
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  • Profile picture of the author rowebil
    Maybe if I pick a niche to do, I can create a blog and such. My niche would be computer related.

    But those aren't good niches. :/ I heard health was a big one!
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  • Profile picture of the author rowebil
    Thank you everyone for the words of courage, I'm gonna keep on going! I'm not going to dive-in right away, I'm gonna look on WF first, read - then try things.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ralph Moore
      Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

      Thank you everyone for the words of courage, I'm gonna keep on going! I'm not going to dive-in right away, I'm gonna look on WF first, read - then try things.
      That is a wise decision. I would recommend that if you already have a job to pay the bills, keep it. If not, then get one.

      Take some time and do some serious research on the various paths to selling online.

      Decide on ONE and only one and then learn that method by researching here and elsewhere on and off of the Internet until you feel as if you can talk about it with understanding.

      Then "stick your toes in the water a bit" until you get your first sale.

      Then you can work to duplicate your success BEFORE you branch out to other methods.

      You really do not need to pay for anything in order to get your first sale, unless you are specific buying tools needed for a particular method.

      Hang in there. You CAN do this. It WILL take more time.
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

    I've been trying to do internet marketing for the last week or, 10 days
    you're going to get torn to pieces for this

    honestly, most people on here have been working for months, years - some even over a decade - and have still only experienced limited success.

    as has been said - PERSERVERANCE
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Spoon
    Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

    I've been trying to do internet marketing for the last week or, 10 days - and it's just very difficult...

    I've tried things, I've researched - I've checked the competition. Spent $100 with eBooks, and just cannot get it!

    Can anyone give any advice? :/
    Do you think maybe it's just not for me?

    OR, do you think I'm not trying hard enough.?
    I just can't get the encouragement to do it anymore.

    Can someone help me maybe get back up?
    I know how you feel My first year of Internet Marketing I only made $500.

    My second year I made $1,500.

    This year I am finally seeing a breakthrough and I know what I am doing. It might take you a month or more before you see your first sale.

    Interenet Marketing is not easy in the beginning. You have a lot to learn, scams to watch out for, who is lying and who is telling you the truth.

    It is a lot to digest and take in. Don't give up after 10 days though.

    Look at it like this someone goes to college for 4 years to learn how to do something or be a teacher or whatever.

    It takes some time to learn this stuff but the payback can be huge.

    Hange in there and learn as much as you can. Take what you have learned and put it into action, don't sit on your knowledge and do nothing.

    Try to stick to doing one thing and learn it inside and out.

    Good luck,
    Shannon
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  • Profile picture of the author mwright
    Yes, you CAN'T do this ... until you can!

    You may want to think in terms of taking "practice shots", just to get a feel for what you're doing, and what works best for you and your goals.

    For instance, I like working on salespages, but I haven't touched PPC.

    Check out the lesson series at Free Internet Marketing Course | Eric's Tips. It can help you focus your time and effort, so you won't get overwhelmed.

    But, you CAN do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author sjetton
    You have just started...Take a long term outlook on this. Let me save you some time...get educated first, before spending money...That is what I did.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
      It's best to be exceptional at one thing rather than good at a lot of things. So, try and avoid one of the biggest mistakes people make and try not to do 10 different things a day. Focus on the things that are proven money makers and will be till the end of time.

      ie - build assets and view what you're doing as a business. Focus on list building as an absolute must. There's plenty of tips and advice on that for free on this forum. Get really good at that and you've got a steady business right there.

      Get good at other things like salesmanship, copywriting, product creation, spotting opportunities etc. These are the things that will make the most money in the long run. It's tempting to chase quick affiliate sales but in reality the money is in the long game. Good luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author jlucado
        tsk..tsk..tsk

        Some people do this for much longer than 10 days and then give up without making a dime.

        If someone told you it was easy, you should smack them in the face. If someone told you that you would get rich overnight, you should smack them in the face.

        It is not easy. It takes time. It takes a mindset that you will succeed. You must Study-Learn-Implement.

        I'm sorry if I sound harsh with you, but you should know these things...even if it has only been 10 days.

        Pick yourself up. Dust yourself off. And go to work.
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    • Profile picture of the author J R Salem
      Originally Posted by krankxl View Post

      Dont give up, it took me about 4 months to get my first DOLLAR online. No kidding..... Anyway the key here is perserverance. Internet marketing will make you money as long as you stick with it!
      Believe it or not, four months is probably quicker than 99% of people who try this.

      Because remember, the vast majority make $0. Just shows that with some action and dedication you can make some $$$ in a few months.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
        You need to change your mindset.

        In the beginning you have to realize that it's more important to learn than to make money straight away.
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  • Profile picture of the author steveo
    It sounds like you are taking some good action, remember you are not alone on your pursuit of wealth, there's lots of others hungry for online money so to speak, why not reach out and form some partnerships?
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  • Profile picture of the author rowebil
    Okay, I might stick to PPC campaigns.. Test the squeeze pages, etc.

    Then focus on Offline marketing and rank #1 in Google doing something I love and enjoy, something I know bottom up - computer repair.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

      Okay, I might stick to PPC campaigns.. Test the squeeze pages, etc.

      Then focus on Offline marketing and rank #1 in Google doing something I love and enjoy, something I know bottom up - computer repair.
      That's not a bad niche to get into, as I don't think many computer repair firms target clients via PPC. You could target people in your local area very easily with Google Adwords, especially here in the US.
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  • Profile picture of the author rjweng
    Hi Rowebil,

    May I know what are you promoting or selling?

    I know how frustrating it is when you put in effort, time and especially $$ and get nothing in return. PPC can be quite tricky and needs a fair bit of testing and sometimes more investment to get things right.

    It's best to start off with free traffic generation methods like article and video marketing if you are new to IM. That way, you would not burn a hole in a pocket as with PPC. Although it takes time compared to PPC but not only will you get traffic but valuable backlinks.

    Also, never give up but rather treat every mistake as a lesson and learn from there. Remember that there is no such thing as instant gratification in the IM world. It takes time and effort to build just like any other business.

    All th best!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chevy5
    10 days is the blink of an eye in IM. You have to find what will work for you. It takes time and lots of patience, plus a don't give up attitude. Good luck
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  • Most success stories are from people who have tried for month or years. Those people could now start from zero and be earning within a shorter time frame.

    As a newbie I'm afraid this is how it is, until you start to learn what is right and what is wrong; what works and doesn't etc. Ultimately you could choose one method, keep at it and that would shorten the time in which it takes to make sales. But lets be honest, when were new at this we hop over from product to product to the point we make prostitutes look good!

    Choose a method, drill it to the bare bones!
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  • Profile picture of the author Miles Kral
    I have been in business for the past 15 years, online and offline. I never saw success in 1 or 2 weeks, instant success does not exist in anything. The only way you will see instant success is if you win the lottery and we all know what the odds of that are!

    Just keep working, the money will come.

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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Miles Kral View Post

      I have been in business for the past 15 years, online and offline. I never saw success in 1 or 2 weeks, instant success does not exist in anything. The only way you will see instant success is if you win the lottery and we all know what the odds of that are!

      Just keep working, the money will come.

      Miles
      Exactly, the OP is adopting the wrong mindset regarding this. Instead of treating it like a real business which requires time, effort and resources to get up and running, he has this "lottery" mentality where he hopes to strike it rich literally overnight.

      Get back to work, and keep plugging away at your present business model (PPC) until you can make it profitable. If you can focus on this consistently over a period of at least several months, you'll not fail to make this work for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author rowebil
      Originally Posted by Miles Kral View Post

      I have been in business for the past 15 years, online and offline. I never saw success in 1 or 2 weeks, instant success does not exist in anything. The only way you will see instant success is if you win the lottery and we all know what the odds of that are!

      Just keep working, the money will come.

      Miles
      Thank you Miles,

      That was a very warm post

      I will keep working.
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      • Profile picture of the author rowebil
        Originally Posted by gundarz View Post

        LOL! I've been trying internet marketing for 5 years and still havent cracked it.
        Well I'm glad.! Don't give up, perseverance is everything.

        Stay on focus - stick to one thing, and you'll have it faster than you thought was possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aandice Austin
    Before your success, you may be defeated, but you will win finally if you keep going! Good luck to you!
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    • Profile picture of the author Damani Tabor
      One week is way too short a timeframe in which to decide to throw in the towel.

      Often times one week is not even enough time to complete decent analysis of an IM campaign.

      The WF is your best friend. You're in luck. Just ask the right questions.

      What are the right questions?

      Be SUPER SPECIFIC about what the issues are, and you will get super-clear answers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
      10 days and you are already talking about giving up?

      Sorry but I'd just quit now.

      You are obviously in it for the fast money but in reality it will take your several months to a few years to work out the IM game.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

        10 days and you are already talking about giving up?

        Sorry but I'd just quit now.

        You are obviously in it for the fast money but in reality it will take your several months to a few years to work out the IM game.
        Ernie, unfortunately this 'quick money' myth is being perpetuated in just about every MMO product targeted at newbies, and looking at it from that perspective it is easy to understand why so many mistakenly believe that they can just push a few buttons and magically materialize a huge sum of money overnight.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          Ernie, unfortunately this 'quick money' myth is being perpetuated in just about every MMO product targeted at newbies, and looking at it from that perspective it is easy to understand why so many mistakenly believe that they can just push a few buttons and magically materialize a huge sum of money overnight.
          I do see why some of these newbies may think that overnight riches is possible Paulie.

          I just like to take the no BS cold reality approach to posts like these, it's good medicine for them

          To the OP, if you're listening, IM represents a great opportunity for more freedom and money but it takes a lot of work and time in most cases, so if you're in it for the long haul then I wish you the best of luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Hello Rowebil,

      The biggest problem with IM is people think it's an easy thing to do and if you just send people to a sales page, that's it, job done, I can retire next year.

      It isn't I'm afraid, it's a business.

      Forget about 1 week/10 day results. You'll upset yourself, demoralise yourself and be fed up within a month.

      From a standing start it took me two years to do anything online. The 5 years that followed have been kind to me, I'm very grateful I carried on through those two years and didn't think of giving up.

      If you want to do PPC, learn how do it properly. Do you understand the importance of broad, phrase and exact match? Do you understand the importance of the "see search terms" button in the keywords section? I'm asking this because you can lose a lot of money with PPC if you don't know what you're doing. Perry Marshall has a 5 day PPC course that's free, whatever you do, don't just dive in, learn how to do it first.

      You're also focusing totally on sales. The fact you don't have one has made you think about giving up the whole of IM after a very brief adwords campaign. What you don't seem to be looking at and worse still, possibly neglecting, is that the $40 you spent, has got you 40 people on your mailing list. What are your plans for these people? They must be interested in what you were doing.

      The bottom line is this - Thinking something doesn't work after a week or so is ridiculous. You've had a lot of good advice in this thread, use it to your advantage. Business is tough, sometimes you get knocked down. Always get up, dust yourself off and move forwards....

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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        Hello Rowebil,

        The biggest problem with IM is people think it's an easy thing to do and if you just send people to a sales page, that's it, job done, I can retire next year.

        It isn't I'm afraid, it's a business.

        Forget about 1 week/10 day results. You'll upset yourself, demoralise yourself and be fed up within a month.

        From a standing start it took me two years to do anything online. The 5 years that followed have been kind to me, I'm very grateful I carried on through those two years and didn't think of giving up.

        If you want to do PPC, learn how do it properly. Do you understand the importance of broad, phrase and exact match? Do you understand the importance of the "see search terms" button in the keywords section? I'm asking this because you can lose a lot of money with PPC if you don't know what you're doing. Perry Marshall has a 5 day PPC course that's free, whatever you do, don't just dive in, learn how to do it first.

        You're also focusing totally on sales. The fact you don't have one has made you think about giving up the whole of IM after a very brief adwords campaign. What you don't seem to be looking at and worse still, possibly neglecting, is that the $40 you spent, has got you 40 people on your mailing list. What are your plans for these people? They must be interested in what you were doing.

        The bottom line is this - Thinking something doesn't work after a week or so is ridiculous. You've had a lot of good advice in this thread, use it to your advantage. Business is tough, sometimes you get knocked down. Always get up, dust yourself off and move forwards....

        Wow, sounds like this speech:

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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

          Wow, sounds like this speech:

          YouTube - Rocky Balboa Speech
          Thanks Floyd, I'll take that as the compliment or p*** take, in which it was intended...but if it helped, I'm fine with whatever you say.

          Best to you sir.
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          • Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

            Thanks Floyd, I'll take that as the compliment or p*** take, in which it was intended...but if it helped, I'm fine with whatever you say.

            Best to you sir.
            I would most definitely take a Rocky Balboa comparison as a compliment
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  • Profile picture of the author gundarz
    Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

    I've been trying to do internet marketing for the last week or, 10 days - and it's just very difficult...

    I've tried things, I've researched - I've checked the competition. Spent $100 with eBooks, and just cannot get it!

    Can anyone give any advice? :/
    Do you think maybe it's just not for me?

    OR, do you think I'm not trying hard enough.?
    I just can't get the encouragement to do it anymore.

    Can someone help me maybe get back up?

    LOL! I've been trying internet marketing for 5 years and still havent cracked it.
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    Roweb I understand your pain. Your new and tried some things thinking it would work in 10 days. Nothing wrong with not knowing (hence spending $100 on ebooks). I think you'll succeed with the right focus, and, direction. I don't know what your budget or target market is, so, I can't say what method would work for your business.

    All in all I just wanted to wish you well.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahal788
    STOP buying ebooks.
    Invest in the War Room.
    Stick to one thing and keep at it until it works for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author stressjudo
    But wait??!! What about all the "I cracked the code" websites I see?? What about all the "Open this email and make money by Monday" emails I get?? What about all the "You can quit your job with this product from my good friend..." ads I see???
    Are you saying they are all wro- wro- wrong???!!!!
    Say it ain't so!
    <removing tongue from cheek>
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    P.S. This original post reminded me of a Monty Python skit (as best as I can remember):
    "And now, Jenny is going to show us how to play the flute."
    "Thanks. You blow in this end and move your fingers up and down these holes."
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  • Profile picture of the author LauraJames
    Geez, I wish I had made a sale within the first ten days of setting up my own business. Did I give up after ten days? No way! I've been involved in this process for more than three years. Along the way, I have learned a lot and made some mistakes. Overall, my skills have grown tremendously. I have been blessed to have met some wonderful people along the way. People are attracted to those who are leaders and have a sense of belief in their abilities. If you're serious about achieving even a small level of success, such as being able to pay a few monthly bills, then don't complain and say "I can't do it." Nothing is accomplished by giving up.

    If you have not done so, I highly recommend that you read the book Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. This is a classic book that has been published in many languages, and read by countless people worldwide. This will help put things into perspective for you. I also hope it inspires you not only from a marketing level, but a personal level as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nate Purucker
      I think everyone has gave out some solid advice here. I didn't make a dime with IM for about five months after starting out. It was a case of information overload for me. Don't try every new thing that comes along. They all sound great.

      After you have determined your niche, done your keyword research etc. try to stay focused on one aspect of marketing, such as SEO, article marketing, or list building for example. Stick with it and master one method before moving on to another. This helped me to get a handle on things and avoid frustration.

      Internet marketing is work and takes a lot of time to get things rolling. Stick with it and stay focused. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    10 days is very few. You need to stick to a plan and work for months if you want results!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    Don't give up dude.

    When i had just started, it took me 3 months before getting my first sale but in this same month i also got 100 + sales.

    "There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure."
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  • Profile picture of the author Terri LC
    It's odd to hear that when I've gone for over 2 years before even thinking that way, but I regrouped, took great WF advice, and never looked back.

    Cheers,
    Terri
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  • Profile picture of the author madmmd
    lol.. i have been doing this for more than one year.. i just have not spent any money on buying ebooks and stuff.. if you really think after one week that internet marketing is not for you, then i am sure that you are not made for this..
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  • Profile picture of the author JuicerFan
    I agree with the idea that too much hype has caused people to think that you will see huge traffic in a very short time. The other issue is that you will need pretty big numbers of visitors for something to convert if the numbers people have provided are even close to accurate and I think they are.
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  • Profile picture of the author vishalduggal
    10 Days. It takes me a whole lot damn 1 yera to start making money online. You are in wrong mindset.
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  • Profile picture of the author rowebil
    To everyone saying "You must drive traffic."

    One question, drive traffic where? To my Bit.ly link? Ha!
    OR, are you talking about a blog about my niche, content - posts, lists - offers, etc?

    Also, should I invest in the war room? It's probably the same exact thing.. :/ eBooks worth $17.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christina Jo
    anyone can do it, don't worry. Just spend some time to learn internet marketing skills .. don't just jump into work .. another thing, many courses and ebooks out there are scam and useless.. so you need to choose the right mentor to teach you the correct way to do business online..
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      One question, drive traffic where? To my Bit.ly link? Ha!
      OR, are you talking about a blog about my niche, content - posts, lists - offers, etc?
      That's part of the problem you have. You haven't started at the beginning but tried to jump in with some quick sales.

      The point of driving traffic is the destination where you send the traffic. Much better to learn to create a web presence (site or blog) and then drive traffic there. Otherwise you are scrambling to get traffic to one temporary sales link after another.

      I get the feeling you do not have much work experience. Before you can do any job well - you have to do the training for the job.

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  • Profile picture of the author Player87
    I agree.

    I have been in IM.

    There is a lot of tips and advice on how not to five up. But there isn't any post showing how to actually go about making money. Like a structured method.

    That is why its so confusing.
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  • Profile picture of the author carter3
    Originally Posted by rowebil View Post

    I've been trying to do internet marketing for the last week or, 10 days - and it's just very difficult...

    I've tried things, I've researched - I've checked the competition. Spent $100 with eBooks, and just cannot get it!

    Can anyone give any advice? :/
    Do you think maybe it's just not for me?

    OR, do you think I'm not trying hard enough.?
    I just can't get the encouragement to do it anymore.

    Can someone help me maybe get back up?
    The problem with you Newbies is that, you read ebooks upon ebooks but do not take action. You can read all the ebooks online but if you can not sit down and take the few steps required i promise you that you would make any dime. Follow the foot steps of those that have succeeded...Bear in mind that you can not follow the foot steps successful men and become a failure.
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