The VERY reason why people fail...

by Adie
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There are already threads similar to this but this time I am going to explain and cite only one... And this is based on my personal experience...

The VERY reason why people fail is "desperation"

You might not know me personally but I've been in IM/HYP/Cycler/Autosurf/PTC/Cyclers/Doublers/MLM arena since 2001. That's hell a list but without any significant success until this beginning of 2011.

I'll explain.

The first time I discovered moneymaking online was not in a legit way and it was all about HYIP (High Yield Investment Program). I and my family was in great financial trouble and I wanted to make money as fast as I can so I invested some $ into these HYIP programs. Since 2003 when Talkgold forum was created, I've been active member-turned-moderator until 2006 joining lots of programs like I mentioned above without definite direction. The reason: I was desperate to make money online... I had small success but overall, the total assessment was failed. Not because I lost money (I didn't), but because I lost significant amount of time.

Moving forward:
I've been here earlier than my joining date taking some significant information and last 2 years before I joined WF, I created an ebook and sold it to DP. That time, DP was a little different compared to it's current condition. I still had a job that time and financial pressure was not a major problem. I sold hundreds of copies for $7 and finally, I considered that as the most successful part of my online journey. One thing I noticed to myself while doing that - unlike before, I do not count the money. I just enjoyed doing it. But the situation on that forum makes me feel different so I finally evacuated here. LOL

Now, I can't say I am making enough right now but I could tell you I can consider myself as a successful IMer, at least on my own way. My purpose of selling that ebook primarily was not to make quick cash but to test the waters of IM market as I never tried doing such thing before. Maybe I was just lucky or maybe not but I'm speaking based on my own experience - and I never felt desperate even before I started selling that ebook.

What I exactly I am trying to say?

If you go on rush because you are desperate to make money, then you are in the league of losers.

Every time a friend ask me "how to make money online", I just shrug, but every time a friend ask me "how can he learn what I am doing", I mentor him for free.

These are too different things. If you put money ahead of everything, you'll get lose. But if you put learning ahead of money, money will just follow. Passion on what I am doing is the key factor why I got this little success...

I invested significant amount of time learning without spending and without thinking if I earn someday and at last, all effort got paid.

To people who are just starting and/or who are not yet making any considerable amount of money, my advise is: put your heart into it. Do not force your self to do this and do that just because you see someone is earning from doing this and doing that. Feel your passion. Ask yourself which part do you think are you going to do good and focus into it.

Set aside the money. Don't get desperate because it will only lead you to nothing.... Sorry for this lengthy message but I hope it could leave you a little thinking..............

BTW, I lost my job last February 2 as a Manufacturing Supervisor but I never worried at all..and have no more plan to apply for another job...
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  • Profile picture of the author nuaru
    "You never achieve success unless you like what you are doing"

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    • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
      Originally Posted by nuaru View Post

      "You never achieve success unless you like what you are doing"

      Dale Carnegie

      That's very deep and I couldn't agree more with this quote. Desperation is a bad thing indeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author steveo
    Being desperate in e-commerce is really a bad approach and makes it an up hill battle. Thrive off opportunities and really reach out to others. Bring a child like curiosity to your e-commerce work
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  • Agree with you.

    Though I think there's no one particular reason why people fail... Everyone is going through a different circumstance.
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  • Profile picture of the author donhx
    You make some excellent points, Adie. People who come to IM in desperation will exit pretty quickly once they discover it is a business that takes work, rather than a way to get rich quick. I agree--nothing leads to failure faster than desperation. It takes staying power to succeed. Success does not come overnight--these is usually challenges that need to be overcome. Once you get some success, however, you can build on it--'rinse and repeat" as they say.
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  • Profile picture of the author William King
    Very True, and it is not just only for money, this fact should be keep in mind while trying to achieve whatever target in the field of internet marketing from traffic to your rankings, if you become desperate for money, you will surely loose everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielsteven
    thats a very interesting take on it... alot of people shift to the IM world because of desperation, they see marketers making 6 and 7 figures and they think it happens overnight...that just doesnt happen
    desperation is kind of like a "gateway drug" it leads into lack of focus and information overload because people are looking for the quick fix....
    I like that take
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    SO true, I was thinking about that the other day. You get newbies posting things on IM forums all the time like, "pls i need 2 earn $100 a day" and I never get the slightest urge to help them because their attitude has already doomed them to failure. Desperation doesn't promote taking the right kinds of action - as you rightly say, it is focused entirely on unrealistic wishful thinking and that's what gets that kind of person hopping around from one 'scheme' to the next chasing the 'dream'. The other thing with desperation, why it's a huge hindrance to success - and this is true for other areas of life too - it's a massive turn-off to others. Right girls?
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Although it is normal for a person to become desperate for we have different personal problems, but when you let yourself drowned into this, you can't think of any better idea and you'll certainly lose your focus. It's like swimming from one side of the river to another side. You can see the other side and you want to swim fast only to lose strength because you are doing it by force and not by good technique and without swimming plan...
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  • Profile picture of the author rjweng
    "To know and not to do is not yet to know" - Zen Wisdom

    Many people fall into the trap of information overload and they just like to suck up information like a vacuum but fail to implement it all the way to the end and give it some time to actually see the results.
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    Thank you @Adie, to make money online is not just easy.

    We need patience and perseverance!
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    Nice post. Good advise thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Desperation usually gets in the way of clear thinking and focus, and this makes it difficult to attain results with IM. I'm not saying that it's impossible, but when people are in a distracted and worried state of mind, not many are really able to focus effectively on IM and get things done.
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  • Profile picture of the author SmartHealthShop
    great post - i think people get overwhelmed by all the information and quick making money squeeze pages out there and want to try them all at once.

    they get desperate and put their money towards all of these techniques when all the techniques they buy really say the same thing: "do these things consistently to increase traffic, sales, leads, cash, etc".

    the actual hard work needed to put in to "make money" really doesn't necessarily cost much and just takes time that desperate people are too overwhelmed to make.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    The more you rush, the more you are wasting time. I know several people who does not make significant amount since 2005 and this is one of the main reasons why they are having such fate.
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  • Profile picture of the author mcmillad
    Great post. It is probably true for most people, but I think that desperation can also make you do things that can have good consequences. Just depends on the person.
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  • Profile picture of the author wahsupermom
    More often than not, "desperation" is a driving factor for people to sign up for get rich quick schemes online. And you are right in saying this:

    To people who are just starting and/or who are not yet making any considerable amount of money, my advise is: put your heart into it. Do not force your self to do this and do that just because you see someone is earning from doing this and doing that. Feel your passion. Ask yourself which part do you think are you going to do good and focus into it.
    The IM industry certainly has room for everyone who wants to make money online. Think about your passion and start from there. Don't be afraid to put in the hard work and yet still make mistakes. It will pay off in the end if you keep at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
    The VERY reason why people fail...

    ... is because they are not desperate enough.

    Many people find their stroke or way once they become desperate
    enough to actually take serious action. Desperation is a great motivator.
    I often find my solutions to problems once I become desperate enough.
    This coming from a guy who's been self-employed since before he was 18
    years old... me.

    Being desperate often means displaying great courage even being under
    fire... or in the hot seat so to speak, where something has to happen
    NOW! When the desperation hits an apex, the urgency factor kicks in
    and the sub-conscience self starts to work over time trying to find a
    way or solution towards attaining something... like creating an eBook,
    throwing up a salespage and all the rest that goes with it, then work
    like heck... because they're desperate, to get the results they want!

    Often a lack of desperation is a result of not enough motivation. In
    order for some to get inspired enough, they need a desperation fire lit
    under them to get them moving towards success. You can lead a
    horse to water, but you can't make him drink.... until he's thirsty
    enough... or desperate enough.

    LastWarrior.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by LastWarrior View Post

      The VERY reason why people fail...

      ... is because they are not desperate enough.

      Many people find their stroke or way once they become desperate
      enough to actually take serious action. Desperation is a great motivator.
      I often find my solutions to problems once I become desperate enough.
      This coming from a guy who's been self-employed since before he was 18
      years old... me.

      Being desperate often means displaying great courage even being under
      fire... or in the hot seat so to speak, where something has to happen
      NOW! When the desperation hits an apex, the urgency factor kicks in
      and the sub-conscience self starts to work over time trying to find a
      way or solution towards attaining something... like creating an eBook,
      throwing up a salespage and all the rest that goes with it, then work
      like heck... because they're desperate, to get the results they want!

      Often a lack of desperation is a result of not enough motivation. In
      order for some to get inspired enough, they need a desperation fire lit
      under them to get them moving towards success. You can lead a
      horse to water, but you can't make him drink.... until he's thirsty
      enough... or desperate enough.

      LastWarrior.
      You have some points... but desperation, patience, and perseverance are 3 different things. You seldom see desperate people have the latter 2......
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      • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
        Originally Posted by Adie View Post

        You have some points... but desperation, patience, and perseverance are
        3 different things. You seldom see desperate people have the latter 2......
        That's valid for some people, but we're all different.

        My perseverance often comes from desperation. LOL!

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    • Profile picture of the author MarketingPro11
      Originally Posted by LastWarrior View Post

      The VERY reason why people fail...

      ... is because they are not desperate enough.

      Many people find their stroke or way once they become desperate
      enough to actually take serious action. Desperation is a great motivator.
      I often find my solutions to problems once I become desperate enough.
      This coming from a guy who's been self-employed since before he was 18
      years old... me.

      Being desperate often means displaying great courage even being under
      fire... or in the hot seat so to speak, where something has to happen
      NOW! When the desperation hits an apex, the urgency factor kicks in
      and the sub-conscience self starts to work over time trying to find a
      way or solution towards attaining something... like creating an eBook,
      throwing up a salespage and all the rest that goes with it, then work
      like heck... because they're desperate, to get the results they want!

      Often a lack of desperation is a result of not enough motivation. In
      order for some to get inspired enough, they need a desperation fire lit
      under them to get them moving towards success. You can lead a
      horse to water, but you can't make him drink.... until he's thirsty
      enough... or desperate enough.

      LastWarrior.
      Hi LastWarrior,
      Desperation works great for a person who has the knowledge of the process and has the required tools.But it does opposite to the person is totally unarmed.

      There are so many pieces a person needs to stich together to run a successful internet business and it becomes virtually impossible for a desperate person to focus and implement anything properly(even if he gets some working action plan).

      I am aware that different people respond to such situations differently but it is a fact that most of the people feel themselves unable to come out of these situations on their own and keep falling for more "Get Rich Quick"crap....I have myself gone through that phase so I know how it feels and works.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      Originally Posted by astrellalopez View Post

      ...consider failure as a stepping stone for that success.
      Absolutely! I think failure is a result of giving up too soon...

      and/or not learning from prior experiences.

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  • Profile picture of the author techservice
    If you can avoid it then don't let desperation be a place that you ever goto. If you find yourself there then use it as a spring board to start taking the nessesary action to get yourself out.

    In this business the only person who is going to help you is you. Sure you can get coaching and mentoring and opportunites will open up following that but like the film said - IF YOU WANT IT - GO GET IT!
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    Originally Posted by Adie View Post

    These are too different things. If you put money ahead of everything, you'll get lose. But if you put learning ahead of money, money will just follow. Passion on what I am doing is the key factor why I got this little success...


    This is very true. There are no free rides or easy money. But Internet Marketing is one of the best way to make money online today. It will require work and passion!
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    You never ever get success in your life if your aim is not decide...
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingPro11
    Adie,
    You have some great points in your post.I too have previously gone through this PTC/GPT/HYIP/AUTOSURF and all other "Get Rich Quick" crap and I can fully relate to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by MarketingPro11 View Post

      Adie,
      You have some great points in your post.I too have previously gone through this PTC/GPT/HYIP/AUTOSURF and all other "Get Rich Quick" crap and I can fully relate to you.
      Well I believe you were also a member of those forums I was a member before.. LOL... But they are still useful to me even now.. I use them in advertising/backlinking my stuffs....
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      • Profile picture of the author MarketingPro11
        Originally Posted by Adie View Post

        Well I believe you were also a member of those forums I was a member before.. LOL... But they are still useful to me even now.. I use them in advertising/backlinking my stuffs....
        Yeah,I was a member of all those ****ty forums but now I have totally left that world behind.In fact ,I haven't visited any of them for the last two years.
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    We need patience and perseverance!
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  • Profile picture of the author nav123
    I totally agree with you 100%. But I think targeting or writing down a certain amount of money as a goal monthly is alright. Honestly, thats how i think and i feel more motivated to work in order to achieve my goal monthly.
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    That and quitting too soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author alpinewood
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    people need to strengthen their resolve, too many give up w/o exhausting all possible avenues
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  • Profile picture of the author searchnology
    I am not sure "desperation" is a reason...but rather a character/situational issue. We are all not desperate at the same time in the same situation.

    If I had to break the reason(s) down they would be:

    1. Education - folks just don't know what they are doing in so many ways. How to create a business plan, outsource or hire, accounting/metrics...the list goes on and on.
    2. Resources - they don't have the time and/or money to do what needs to be done.
    3. Commitment - this includes being lazy, not passionate or focused.

    Just my two cents but you could be successful in just about anything if you have those 3 things.
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      "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win"
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Having a "get rich quick" mentality = sure way to lose at anything. Seriously. I found out the hard way. Now, my mentality is "the more I learn and implement what I've learned, the more I win."
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