Is it okay to request a refund if its "not what you were expecting"

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So I have a very serious question to ask.

Is it okay to get a product featuring a legit working method, but request a refund because it isn't what you expected?

I myself have mixed feelings about the subject. I mean if you were expecting something specific, the product is probably not for you anyhow...you already know whats in it...you expect it to be something specific (i.e. nothing new or helpful...or even interesting).

I've gotten some very poor reasons for wanting a refund in a past but I've always wondered how others feel about those wanting a refund because the product "isn't what they expected."
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    I think that's just translation for "too much work" for them.

    Pending on your guarantee, it's probably worth it to just refund.
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    • Profile picture of the author shabit87
      Originally Posted by Mike Grant View Post

      I think that's just translation for "too much work" for them.

      Pending on your guarantee, it's probably worth it to just refund.
      I always honor my gurantees, but I'm starting to think I should stop offering one on certain products...or do a better job of telling people who my products are NOT for as well as who they are for.

      Thanks for your feedback Mike!
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanT
    I think this can vary drastically.

    Mainly in two ways that come to mind.

    First being WSO type offers, these offers give you a chance to speak directly to the creator and ask questions. Plus you get to read through others reviews and questions etc etc. This gives you a MUCH better idea of what the product is all about.
    So I think saying "it's not what you expected" after attention like that you're just being ridiculous.

    However on the other side of the spectrum there are the Clickbank products where you DO NOT get to speak with anyone and ask questions about the products. And with all the bogus sites out there with fake testimonials you can't really trust those.

    Also as I've been reviewing products for my customers, readers and subscribers I've found that some people out right LIE about what their product is. For example:

    "This will require NO SEO, NO PPC and NO Website!!"

    Sounds great but then you get into the product and it turns out that they want you to build an SEO optimized website and drive traffic to it via PPC. So in that sense no the product was NOT what I had expected.

    I suppose it depends on what kind of info you are offered upfront about the product and also if what you say the product will or will not need holds up once the customer purchases.
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    • Profile picture of the author shabit87
      Originally Posted by RyanT View Post

      Also as I've been reviewing products for my customers, readers and subscribers I've found that some people out right LIE about what their product is. For example:

      "This will require NO SEO, NO PPC and NO Website!!"

      Sounds great but then you get into the product and it turns out that they want you to build an SEO optimized website and drive traffic to it via PPC. So in that sense no the product was NOT what I had expected.
      Good point, if you lie about your product and of course the buyer didn't expect you to, I think the grounds for a refund are more than "legit" (i use that word loosely)

      Originally Posted by Jarrett View Post

      I realize that they are probably just looking for a free handout. Honestly, most these people aren't worth the headache. If you don't.. they'll spend the next 3 years writing hate posts about how you ripped them off.. and it's just not worth it.

      I just give them a refund and go about my day.
      Yeah, its almost always easier to just go forward with the refund, ain't worth the headache. I even had someone threaten to basically bash my product if I didn't give them a refund (note, it was there first time requesting one and I never ever told them I wouldn't honor my gurantee). I guess that buyer needed some insurance that I'd get them their refund and fast.

      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      In the end, depends on the refund policy. If the seller offers a "no questions asked" policy - any reason or no reason is good enough.

      kay
      I once had a clear guarantee that stated if you tried the product and it didn't work I would refund...the person just came out and said it wasn't for them...so technically I wasn't obligated to refund them, huh?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jarrett
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    Personally I don't ever really ask for refunds on stuff... Even if I pay $1,000 for a course and I get 1 little gold nugget out of it.. it's worth it for me.

    And if the product is absolute crap and I spent alot of money on it.. well then thats a lesson in itself. Don't spend money on crap. hahaha

    So personally.. I'm not quick to ask for refunds on anything.. unless it's a complete joke.

    As far as people that buy My stuff and ask for a refund?

    it sucks. I hate it. I pour my heart into every product I do to make it the absolute best possible. All my stuff has helped people make lots of money.. I know that. so if people ask for a refund and give me a crummy reason.. I don't take it personal.

    I realize that they are probably just looking for a free handout. Honestly, most these people aren't worth the headache. If you don't.. they'll spend the next 3 years writing hate posts about how you ripped them off.. and it's just not worth it.

    I just give them a refund and go about my day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I think the "not what I expected" is a common excuse for asking for a refund. People seem to have a need to give a reason - and that is one that doesn't complain or assign blame so it's neutral.

    It means the person did not fully read the sales copy, or read things into it that weren't there - or just decided there's more involved than they expected. I think it often means "I was just curious":p

    In the end, depends on the refund policy. If the seller offers a "no questions asked" policy - any reason or no reason is good enough.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by shabit87 View Post

    Is it okay to get a product featuring a legit working method, but request a refund because it isn't what you expected?
    It is if your expectations have been reasonably formed on the basis of information provided by the product's sales page, yes.

    Originally Posted by shabit87 View Post

    I've gotten some very poor reasons for wanting a refund in a past but I've always wondered how others feel about those wanting a refund because the product "isn't what they expected."
    I can't answer "in general" without knowing whether the expectations are reasonably formed by the sales page. Clearly sales pages sometimes create expectations, and clearly they're designed to. So it seems to me that that's what it depends on?
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  • Profile picture of the author BlondieWrites
    If the item purchased is not what was advertised, then yes. If it's what was advertised, then no.


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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Yep if you have oversold the product I can see this happening.

    I think it is best to offer a refund - I actually sell a method to repair things and had an email like this - they put "it was not what i was expecting".

    I asked them what they WERE expecting and you can use it to get some tips for your product as well.

    In the end they admitted it was not the product but them that did not want to take action and I issued a refund anyway.

    I would do the above and ask politely what they WERE expecting?

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author shabit87
      Originally Posted by Chri5123 View Post

      Yep if you have oversold the product I can see this happening.

      I think it is best to offer a refund - I actually sell a method to repair things and had an email like this - they put "it was not what i was expecting".

      I asked them what they WERE expecting and you can use it to get some tips for your product as well.

      In the end they admitted it was not the product but them that did not want to take action and I issued a refund anyway.

      I would do the above and ask politely what they WERE expecting?

      Chris
      Good advice Chris...I'm sure this can only better my product anyhow and create MORE happy customers (and hopefully less people seeking refunds LOL)
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    Don't use hype in your sales page.... tell it like it is.

    People tend to use hype to sell a product, then when someone ask for a refund based
    on hype was just to much... The WSO is filled with hype crap.

    Newbie makes 30,000.00 in 2 weeks you can too...

    You guys glad I'm not a mod for the WSO because I would not allow this crap.

    RyanT
    First being WSO type offers, these offers give you a chance to speak directly to the creator and ask questions. Plus you get to read through others reviews and questions etc etc. This gives you a MUCH better idea of what the product is all about.
    So I think saying "it's not what you expected" after attention like that you're just being ridiculous.

    If a guarantee is offered you give it bottom line no matter how many questions were asked or how many reviews were done.

    If you don't want to guarantee something then don't offer one sell it with no Guarantee then.


    Hope that helps

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  • Profile picture of the author christopher jon
    it isn't what you expected?
    It's not what you expected due to misleading or poor promotion or... ???

    I think it's a reasonable reason to request a refund but it's a vague and abused reason as well.

    If you buy the blue widget I'm advertising and I send you a red widget. You'd have a reasonable reason to request a refund. It doesn't matter if the red widget is perfectly good and works, you were expecting a blue widget.

    Given some of the sales hype I've seen recently, I think a lot of products would fall into the not what I expected category.
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  • Profile picture of the author Przemek Bloniarz
    Originally Posted by shabit87 View Post

    So I have a very serious question to ask.

    Is it okay to get a product featuring a legit working method, but request a refund because it isn't what you expected?

    I myself have mixed feelings about the subject. I mean if you were expecting something specific, the product is probably not for you anyhow...you already know whats in it...you expect it to be something specific (i.e. nothing new or helpful...or even interesting).

    I've gotten some very poor reasons for wanting a refund in a past but I've always wondered how others feel about those wanting a refund because the product "isn't what they expected."
    Don't worry the product creator won't go bankrupt because of this kind of refunds. If you don't like it you refund it it's simple as that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      My view on refunds is simple - the refund policy serve the seller just as well as it does the buyer. It's used because it creates a sense of safety and trust - and can lead to higher sales.

      I don't care what the terms read like - whether it includes qualifiers or not - if someone requests a refund for a product where the seller touted the refund policy....they should be refunded. Period.

      Yes, they may be scammers or silly folks who don't like anything - doesn't matter. Any seller who uses a refund policy needs to honor it.

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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Bruce
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        My view on refunds is simple - the refund policy serve the seller just as well as it does the buyer. It's used because it creates a sense of safety and trust - and can lead to higher sales.

        I don't care what the terms read like - whether it includes qualifiers or not - if someone requests a refund for a product where the seller touted the refund policy....they should be refunded. Period.

        Yes, they may be scammers or silly folks who don't like anything - doesn't matter. Any seller who uses a refund policy needs to honor it.

        kay


        Ditto.


        I never understand personalizing a refund request.


        We offer refunds because they increase sales. It’s a business decision. Refunds should be processed immediately with no attempt to make the customer uncomfortable. Again, this is good business.


        The reason for the refund is irrelevant. Even the dreaded serial refunder is just part of the process. If not for the refund they wouldn’t have purchased; ultimately there is nothing lost.
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        • Profile picture of the author shabit87
          Originally Posted by Steven Bruce View Post

          Ditto.


          I never understand personalizing a refund request.

          The reason for the refund is irrelevant. Even the dreaded serial refunder is just part of the process. If not for the refund they wouldn't have purchased; ultimately there is nothing lost.
          I definelty prefer you giving me no reason to a bs reason or a nasty demand for a request, thats for sure.

          Originally Posted by RichardDean View Post

          Newbie makes 30,000.00 in 2 weeks you can too...

          You guys glad I'm not a mod for the WSO because I would not allow this crap.

          Richard
          But Richard, I can teach any newbie to make a million cagillion dollars in 5 days with no work, no manners, or no start up, I can! LOL

          Originally Posted by christopher jon View Post

          It's not what you expected due to misleading or poor promotion or... ???

          I think it's a reasonable reason to request a refund but it's a vague and abused reason as well.

          Given some of the sales hype I've seen recently, I think a lot of products would fall into the not what I expected category.
          Good points...a lot of request would seem to fall in this category.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zed Shah
    Having dealt with product launches quite a bit over the past few months, I just give back the money regardless of the reason. Theres multiple reasons why they'd want to do this in the first place, usually though its because they were looking for the quick fix & shiny objects ..realising they gotto actually 'Work' at this IM stuff lol.

    Not worth the headache seriously, just refund when asked and focus on the people that are actually committed to your training / product
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