IM Webinars - Have they all now become pitchfests?

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Morning all,

Just wanted to throw something out there!

I regularly go on about 2 webinars a week and being from the UK with most webinars being from the US it does mess with your sleep!!!

Up until about 2 weeks ago most webinars would give good useable content before the pitch (I dont mind the pitch, its goes with the territory, I understand that!).

Well this last few weeks webinars seem to have gone the same way as live on stage seminars - no content and 1 long pitchfest!!

Is it just me or does anyone else feel that way?

Jon
#pitchfests #webinars
  • Profile picture of the author Afreidman
    Hi
    Actually i think the whole reason for creating Webinars (especially when it's in the IM niche)
    Its all a means to sell you the product the person created.
    And that's exactly what the gurus are teaching everybody.
    What I do is look at the webinar subject and then i decide if the product their selling could interest me.
    I don't attend a webinar for pure information, because i'll just get disappointed.
    If you're looking for a free, pitch free source go keep on posting your questions on the Warrior Forum or just buy the product (if you want too)

    Cheers Mate
    I love the UK!
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Have you been to Talk Marketing Now? That is the opposite of what you're describing - it's full of great info from real experts(most of them Warriors) that just want to share their ideas with others I don't go there as much as I should, but every time I do, I learn something new.

      http://www.talkmarketingnow.com
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      • Profile picture of the author Voyager64
        Thanks Liam, I will pay it a visit.

        Jon
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    • Profile picture of the author Tess D
      I just did a webinar about my work yesterday, and it was "sales pitch free" . I love to attend webinars and do so regularly. Some of them are so pitch laden it is like watching a late night infomercial.

      i just have to agree with you that sales pitch filled webinars are repulsing to me. Making a pitch is ok, but hitting people over the head with "buy me" turns me off.

      I agree that the Work At Home Challenge webinars are all valuable content with only the tiniest pitch at the end. (I have no affiliation with them, either).
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  • Not only webinars but also live events. I've been to two of them, and I left within 1 hour upon realizing it was becoming nothing but a pitch fest.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    Every webinar is selling something, no matter how hard or soft the sell.
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    • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      Every webinar is selling something, no matter how hard or soft the sell.
      Although I understand what you mean, and that your statement was meant to be bold, I can tell you for a fact that this is not always true. The rest of my statement, is not directed to you but the warrior internet marketing community in general. In fact, in the context in which you meant it, I would have to agree.

      My friend, Ken Anderson and I are doing two calls today, neither of them are sales webinars. Neither of them will have anything for sale in them. They are for the benefit of our members. For the last month or two, we have done on average at least 10+ hours of webinars without a pitch. As a matter of fact, if you were to talk to Ken, he will not sell a product without a webinar with it to give real time instruction solely for the benefit of the buyers.

      Internet marketers have discovered webinars as the "big ticket" to sell items. And they are. They work. That said, a smart marketer can also use them to build community in their membership site. Even more compelling they can add the kind of value and life to an information product like nothing else.

      What better way to seperate yourself from the rest of those who do WSO's, than to add in a demonstration of how to use what you are selling in a webinar. If you ask me, it is rather short sighted to use it solely as a way to sell more product. Well, even if you didn't ask me that is what I think. If you use it to create and add value, you will probably no longer have to use many webinars to sell products to your current customers but only new ones.

      Giving real time instruction is just as powerful a concept as doing it to do the "I gave you great content...now open your wallet...you owe me model. Trust me, that will wear thin with everyone except for newbies to internet marketing. The OP's question is evidence of that. So yes, that is how they are used, but if marketers take the longer view and use them to add value, they will sell more product with less effort.

      CT
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruth P
    While it's true that webinars are designed to eventually sell something, I don't believe ALL of them are simply pitchfests. I've been to many lately that have been very useful, of course they pitched something maybe at the end but you could come away without buying and still learn something new. I guess you just need to pick and choose what you attend based on what you know of the people hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Transcripts
    I don't think this is a particularly new thing. I've had the fortune of being a fly on the wall at all kinds of events, interviews, webinars, etc. for the past several years. I admit there are some I find myself inspired by or actually learn something from and there are others where they might as well scrap the entire thing and just repeat "BUY THIS!!!" over and over again :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    We have regular webinars for WorkAtHomeChallenge.com and we usually share our absolute best stuff and aim for 90% content and 10% pitch at the end of the presentation.

    Most webinars I see use the same formula. If not, then we don't invite them to present to our audience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
    Originally Posted by Voyager64 View Post

    Morning all,

    Just wanted to throw something out there!

    I regularly go on about 2 webinars a week and being from the UK with most webinars being from the US it does mess with your sleep!!!

    Up until about 2 weeks ago most webinars would give good useable content before the pitch (I dont mind the pitch, its goes with the territory, I understand that!).

    Well this last few weeks webinars seem to have gone the same way as live on stage seminars - no content and 1 long pitchfest!!

    Is it just me or does anyone else feel that way?

    Jon
    In short, no.

    We have done, within our membership over 70 hours of live training in two months.

    Not one of those hours were sales webinars.

    When we do a sales webinar it is for that purpose and we are not trying to fool anyone.

    CT
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    I hear what you're saying. I've attended quite a few and done quite a few myself. The thing is that if all they do is pitch, pitch, pitch--you'll probably never attend another one hosted by that person.

    To be honest, the best pitch is a soft one that shouldn't take more than a minute. There a couple people I know who do webinars all the time and I try to attend many of them. They simply won't let their guests do the hard sell for 60 minutes straight. It really does make them lose trust with their customers.

    Like I've said before, the more you give, the more you end up getting. If you try to get too much before giving--you end up losing. For me, I've attended some really great ones. If the host puts on a good one I'll likely go back and tune in on another one of theirs. --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author PMinc
    I guess it should be expected with the amount of how-to-create-a-webinar products that have been coming up lately.
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