How much do you think the top clickbank vendors actually make?

14 years ago

Originally Posted by warhero

We've seen all the hyped up sales pages, but how much do you think those guys with products 300 gravity+ actually make?

Has really nothing to do with Gravity... For instance Fat Loss 4 Idiots I believe has made somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 million dollars in one year and they aren't even the top product anymore.

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Alex Barboza

14 years ago

Fat Loss For Idiots is probably the product that makes the most money at Clickbank

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Mike Hill 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Barboza

Fat Loss For Idiots is probably the product that makes the most money at Clickbank

Probably right but there are also a bunch of other milti-million dollar ClickBank products in that one market alone. Burn The Fat Feed The Muscle has also been quite successful. There are actual reviews somewhere about all these milti-million dollar ClickBank products.
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Midas3 Consulting 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Barboza

Fat Loss For Idiots is probably the product that makes the most money at Clickbank

Not even close nowadays..

In regards the OP's question, the amounts in some of the fitness
niches are ... so insane during large scale media buys (think front
page of MSN), that I won't post them because nobody ever believes
you.

But people with very significant budgets are making a lot of cash
and with residuals being built into the backend with high margins
it can be a money train once you have your ducks in a row.

Lets just say tens of millions of dollars a year.
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- Laurie Rogers 14 years ago
  
  There are a few more logistics to consider and Simon is right, if you're heavily into media buying with big sites, the profits are FAR higher than on CB.
  
  Logisitics as I was taught were to target certain niches with media buys during peak seasons, think about what people are heavily wanting during certain times of the year. IE: dieting is more popular from new years until end of spring because people make new years resolutions to lose weight and then you have the other crowd that wants to fit into their bikini's for summer. So you target those niches heavily with big media buys during their peak seasons.
  
  If recall correctly, a good text ad on MSN runs for 11K but the profit was staggering.
  
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  jbsmith 14 years ago
  
  I know of a few personally that make ~$1M that are not even on the top 5-10 list in their category.
  
  We also found a profile of one that hit $1M recently - we posted about him on our blog with some insights into his business (multiple ebooks)
  
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  I also had someone write us this past week mentioning they were selling thousands of copies of their $9.99 ebook through Smashwords - not a Million, but high 6-figures just the same.
  
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  Jamie Lewis 14 years ago
  
  LOL you guys.
  
  Ok, well the top 5 are alot different then the top 50.
  
  I remember I got the welcome email to the "Top 100" when I only did 300k a year in 2005.
  
  The top ten, $10 mil a year each average.
  
  For instance, the highest in one day was 1.5M That should give you perspective.
  
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  Midas3 Consulting 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by yelmer humlow
  
  ok, so what id the highest grossing product or do i hear dave edmunds, 'i hear you knocking?
  
  I don't know what the heck the above means, but in terms
  of highest grossing right now in the weight loss niche, I doubt
  anybody is beating the Diet Solution on a day to day basis.
  
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paulie888 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Barboza

Fat Loss For Idiots is probably the product that makes the most money at Clickbank

This has definitely been one of the top sellers of all time on Clickbank, driving home the point that IM is not the only profitable niche in which you can make tons of money. I think that it has made over $21 million in sales to date, which is an absolutely astounding achievement for such an inexpensive ebook!

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Anup Mahajan

14 years ago

The products that have a consistent high gravity over a long period of time (and low refund rates) make millions of dollars in sales every year. Even I read a case study for Fat Loss for Idiots, don't have the link right now but I'm sure you will find it if you search for it on Google.

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ShiningHero

14 years ago

So what do you guys make of the emarketing niche with products like instant cash empire, auto clickproducts, google sniper, commission crusher ect?

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Alexa Smith

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Originally Posted by warhero

how much do you think those guys with products 300 gravity+ actually make?

I think some make millions and many more make very, very little.

You can't tell from the gravity figure. In the "IM-advice niche", in particular, there are many products with gravities of 300+ because 300+ people have each bought one copy through their own affiliate links, and that can be almost the total sales of the product. On the other hand, there are products with gravities in single figures steadily selling thousands of copies every month.

This doesn't answer your question at all, of course, but that's because nobody knows the answer apart from an individual product's vendor. Sales numbers are not disclosed by Clickbank.

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TBInternetMarketing

14 years ago

Interesting thread. I like these kind of topics. Inspirational if nothing else.

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TCrosby

14 years ago

Consider the super-affiliate, who among all the commissions he generates per day, might send say $300 to one specific product (he might be doing this with 10 different products).

If the vendor has just a couple of these guys on board, plus the hoards of average people, you are already talking about several thousand dollars in sales per day.

And they probably have several products they have created. Now we are looking at upwards of $5,000 per day.

That's 1.8 million alone.

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Snow_Predator 14 years ago

Nah, a lot of these consistently high gravity products don't make much. Burn the fat feed the muscle for example, is an absolutely AMAZING product, but in my experience it doesn't sell very well.
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Fazal Mayar

14 years ago

they probably cross the million dollar mark while sleeping on their couch because of all the affiliates and stuff.

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JBoWitt

14 years ago

Is there anybody on this forum that has has one of those multi-m clickbank products?

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Midas3 Consulting 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JBoWitt

Is there anybody on this forum that has has one of those multi-m clickbank products?

The owners of 2 major CB products that do in the millions
per year do have accounts on the WF, but not under
trackable usernames.

I suspect more do , but I know of two for sure.

Folks would be surprised but actually there's almost an
inverse ratio between how rich/successful marketers
are and how much they tend to post on forums.

In fact millions are made out there constantly and they
didn't even know about the WF until I mentioned it.
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Midas3 Consulting

14 years ago

Originally Posted by webgains

After they give 50% or whatever to affiliates and then pay their taxes they're not left with much.

So to answer the question, they're not making much.

*Sigh*

It's like the blind leading the blind on this forum .

A good launch and / or perennial CB Business leaves
around 20% in profit after 75% commisions.

The money however is what you then do with the
increased list size of quality card carrying leads
who are hot to be sold future vertical products
and services, often including residual based products
or high ticket items.

The back end, the long term customer value, the
continuity .. the money can be absurd.

"They" make a lot..

A few make millions every month in profit, even after
tax, which is often constantly rolled over into
future products, it's absurdly good money.

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Midas3 Consulting

14 years ago

Originally Posted by webgains

That's what they want you to believe.

/ facepalm..

Seeing as I work with some of "them" and often see
the numbers, I'm good - thanks.

If you want to believe major CB vendors don't make good
money in the backend as explained... knock yourself out.

I think I remember why I stopped coming here.

/unsubscribe..

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Mike Hill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

/ facepalm..

Seeing as I work with some of "them" and often see
the numbers, I'm good - thanks.

If you want to believe major CB vendors don't make good
money in the backend as explained... knock yourself out.

I think I remember why I stopped coming here.

/unsubscribe..

Yeah no doubt... A lot of inexperienced people with strong opinions as truth and plausability without enough common sense to know when to shut up and listen...

Simon, I think people cannot comprehend the vast amount of traffic and people on the internet. It's as though they have summed it up and compared it to their own local shop down the street selling tires.

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WilliamLark

14 years ago

Top vendor make a ton of cash each year but he more than likely has 50 thousand affiliate or more promoting his product which they are making cash as well

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spennyc

14 years ago

A lot of people put overblown numbers but the top Clickbank sellers make a killing in the millions.

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Adie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by warhero

We've seen all the hyped up sales pages, but how much do you think those guys with products 300 gravity+ actually make?

It depends on the product the are selling... I say satellite direct and pregnancy miracle makes hundreds of thousands per month... I'm not sure

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ZerosToHero

14 years ago

Screw Clickbank!

I was on a webinar last month talking about a guy that does the **** berry and teeth whitening offers. We've all seen the ads. It say he spends around $2 million per day and make a profit of $500,000 per day. Just a mere $15 million per month is all.

Adwords is great. Article marketing is okay. But once you get into media buy realm with a solid product you could pull in 8 figures per year.

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- ZerosToHero 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by webgains
  
  I wouldn't believe everything you hear.
  
  Ha ha. Not from this forum I don't.
  
  But from a guy that has done over $100 million in media buys with an office in silicon valley, yes.
  
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  Midas3 Consulting 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by JamesAggie
  
  Ha ha. Not from this forum I don't.
  
  But from a guy that has done over $100 million in media buys with an office in silicon valley, yes.
  
  It's absolutely believable he spent $100 million on
  media buys, I know a guy who recently spent over
  $1 million bucks in less than 18 hours on the home
  page of a major portal, he made a woeful ROI.
  
  Ad spend and ROI are two different beasts.
  
  Honestly, there's a bunch of folks running around
  doing webinars selling high ticket price courses and
  membership systems on CPA / Media buying all
  promising the world, but ask yourself this..
  
  If he's making $200 million or profit a year, why would
  he spend his time on webinars talking to newbies.
  
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- Midas3 Consulting 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by webgains
  
  I wouldn't believe everything you hear.
  
  Agreed on this one.
  
  CPA media buys ROI has been sky high in the past but things
  are much tougher now and to spend $200k and make $500k
  consistently daily is BS - fact, no doubt the guy on this webinar
  was selling a course on CPA and or media buying.
  
  It's absolutely possible on any given day, it's achievable
  but consistently , not a chance, not even close.
  
  Nobody but perhaps the offer owner is making $200 million
  profit a year from teeth whitening...
  
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peter gibson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

/ facepalm..

Seeing as I work with some of "them" and often see
the numbers, I'm good - thanks.

If you want to believe major CB vendors don't make good
money in the backend as explained... knock yourself out.

I think I remember why I stopped coming here.

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@Simon,

I hear ya mate, I stopped coming 'round a while back as a run on ignorance was starting to become evident within the threads. Lately it's been getting real thick in here yet again. The mind boggles.

Originally Posted by webgains

After they give 50% or whatever to affiliates and then pay their taxes they're not left with much.

So to answer the question, they're not making much.

Originally Posted by webgains

That's what they want you to believe.

@webgains,

Plainly, your arguments are based on nothing more than a willful ignorance of facts. Your rebuttals here might even be tolerable, if not for stating such an maligned pile of goo as if it's some sort of informed opinion on the matter. However, from my own experience I can say with confidence that you have no idea what you're saying. I'm a new vendor - started in late 2009, and before that an affiliate for years. I've made mid six figures (after taxes) from my meager efforts as a vendor alone within fiscal 2010. I offer my affiliates 75% commission BTW.

Also, here's a happy-crappy coincidence; I'm close friends with a particular product vendor who has the best selling health and fitness product on clickbank right now. He's brought in literally boat loads of money from his products, and is easily sitting on a fortune. The guys earnings are beyond impressive and approaching absurdity. His commission for affiliates is also 75%. Go figure.

In fact I know a few cats here at warrior who fall under the category of "Absurdly Rich Vendors", and would SO love for them to drop by here and join me in the belly laugh I'm having at your claims, which you seem to reiterate on demand, as if repetition will make it truth.

So, sorry for your farcically incorrect opinions, but thanks for playing. :rolleyes:

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zena lour 14 years ago

the clickbank products thats been on the there for quite a while do make consistent money.
not only that, they dont just make money from that particular product, they collect name and email and keep selling to their list.
so its a win win situation for them.

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BulletheadX 14 years ago

Harrison & Gibson,
I would suggest that you are complaining about the tides washing away your sand castles.
There are always going to be waves of noobs (speaking as one) that are going to show up. They're going to ask the same old questions, become half-informed (so easy to do, considering all of the outright cons in IM), and spread their new-found misinformation around.
Folks that can provide the straight dope in an accessible manner are the only thing that will keep forums like this from becoming an unnavigable swamp. I'm sure it's a thankless and frustrating job, but if those folks just up and leave then the waters continue to rise.
Take a break if you need to, but don't quit, eh? You were noobs once too.

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macchiavelli

14 years ago

Most CB vendors have aff accounts as well to promote other high gravity CB products.
Its small, exclusive inner circle you get into once you achieve similar levels of success.

The top CB vendor makes about $30mill a year...total, meaning the whole sum.

After all variables are deducted I would say that he/she takes home at least $10 mill a year.

Its big business, dont get it twisted folk

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tsuccess

14 years ago

No doubt the top dogs are making millions, that's where the money is.

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Daniel Brock

14 years ago

My question is...

How does knowing how much any given top selling clickbank product makes in a year help you with your business?

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Jamie Lewis 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Brock

My question is...

How does knowing how much any given top selling clickbank product makes in a year help you with your business?

It gives perspective into how badly one is underachieving would be my guess.
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Dan C. Rinnert

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Brock

My question is...

How does knowing how much any given top selling clickbank product makes in a year help you with your business?

Depends what way you look at it.

If the top ClickBank vendors were only making a $12,000 a year on ClickBank, would it be worth $49.95 for a newbie to sell a product on ClickBank? If the top dogs are just banking $1,000 a month, and these are the ones with all the affiliates and such, what chance does a newbie have of making any kind of decent income, even a supplemental income, on ClickBank?

On the flip side, if the top ClickBank vendors are making millions of dollars a year, isn't that $49.95 to get in a better value than in the previous situation? If people can do fractionally as well as the top dogs, they can make some decent money, no?

There are, of course, no guarantees as to how well you might do, but if you had to spend $50 to get into a specific marketplace, would you rather spend that money somewhere where the top sellers make $12,000 per year or somewhere where the top sellers make $12,000,000 a year?

So, from that kind of perspective, how well top sellers or top selling products do can be very informative with regard to how you might do, even if you are at the very bottom rung of the ladder.

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jaggerbabwin 14 years ago

Wow - Great thread guys. Listen everyone. I am relatively new to the IM game. I have been at it maybe 5 months. I am almost at the point of having a few of my own products to sell. The reason that I got in this business was not to make 1 - 5k a month. Sorry, for some people that might be cool for me that is barely enough for a day. I have made alot of money in other businesses and I plan on making alot of money in this one. Personally I want to know how much people are making and how they are making their money as it provides hope and incentive for me. If I found out that the very top guy was only making 1 mill. a year I would not be very incentivized. Knowing that the top guys can make well into the 7 or 8 figures a year makes me all the more motivated and confident with my decision to get into this business.

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paulie888

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Depends what way you look at it.

If the top ClickBank vendors were only making a $12,000 a year on ClickBank, would it be worth $49.95 for a newbie to sell a product on ClickBank? If the top dogs are just banking $1,000 a month, and these are the ones with all the affiliates and such, what chance does a newbie have of making any kind of decent income, even a supplemental income, on ClickBank?

On the flip side, if the top ClickBank vendors are making millions of dollars a year, isn't that $49.95 to get in a better value than in the previous situation? If people can do fractionally as well as the top dogs, they can make some decent money, no?

There are, of course, no guarantees as to how well you might do, but if you had to spend $50 to get into a specific marketplace, would you rather spend that money somewhere where the top sellers make $12,000 per year or somewhere where the top sellers make $12,000,000 a year?

So, from that kind of perspective, how well top sellers or top selling products do can be very informative with regard to how you might do, even if you are at the very bottom rung of the ladder.

Knowing this definitely provides some much-needed perspective on whether or not to become a Clickbank vendor. This also provides a frame of reference to compare against other affiliate networks, and allows the prospective vendor to make an informed decision, one way or the other.

There wouldn't be much point entering the marketplace if the potential wasn't at least there, so it'd be very helpful for someone to know these statistics.

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John Romaine

14 years ago

There seems to have been an influx of "how much money are you/they/we making" lately...

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peter gibson 14 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

There seems to have been an influx of "how much money are you/they/we making" lately...

Yep, I've noticed as well.
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calfred

14 years ago

They make millions.

Why?

Because success ClickBank vendors care about their affiliates.

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14 years ago

It's all about the "golden rule"

He who has the gold rules.

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Madruga

14 years ago

Oh my, I have to bump this thread becuase I love the discussions. Today I got my ebook approved, and is getting launched on CB. Should I seek for affiliates, or let it be? I'm excited, and I don't hope to make 50 000$ out of it, but a couple of k's should be good enough for now.

Anyway, keep on going with this thread, is very inspiring!

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jbsmith

14 years ago

My advice is get some basic promotion going for your ebook first - here's why:

1. You want to test your website copy, often your initial website will struggle to convert, so you want to run some tests and tweak your copy to improve conversions before sending allot of affiliate traffic - that way affiliates will be happier and stay promoting you instead of doing a promo or two and then giving up because they don't get any sales

2. You want to get your first few sales under your belt so that you meet CB's requirements on payout and on getting listed in CB Marketplace (which is where affiliates search for products to promote)

After that - by all means, ramp up your quest for affiiates and get things rocking.

Originally Posted by Madruga

Oh my, I have to bump this thread becuase I love the discussions. Today I got my ebook approved, and is getting launched on CB. Should I seek for affiliates, or let it be? I'm excited, and I don't hope to make 50 000$ out of it, but a couple of k's should be good enough for now.

Anyway, keep on going with this thread, is very inspiring!

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Liam Ireland

14 years ago

It must be great to own your own product(s) and let the affiliates do the work for you. I would love that.

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caspial22

14 years ago

Logisitics as I was taught were to target certain niches with media buys during peak seasons, think about what people are heavily wanting during certain times of the year. IE: dieting is more popular from new years until end of spring because people make new years resolutions to lose weight and then you have the other crowd that wants to fit into their bikini's for summer. So you target those niches heavily with big media buys during their peak seasons.

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Kevin Rayman

14 years ago

I don't think the gravity matters. If the affiliates are really good, they can produce many sales.

EDIT: One day I will be the top earner on cb. Just wait and see.

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parbindsingh

14 years ago

I think it depends on the marketing or network of your affiliates.

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Estabon

11 years ago

Can anyone please explain to me exactly how does Clickbank work? I have genrated a Hoplink but now I can not find where to post it on clickbank or is it used to post on other different websites ,if so how?

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