Hey (Profittable) Warriors how do you fight the Shinny Object Syndrome....

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The WF is full of incredible product launches sometimes too many new ones coming out every single day.
If I was to write checks for each product that came out that I like, I would be ready to order by second set of checkbooks soon.

There are soo many new ebooks, reports, processes, softwares (Translated to Shinny Objects) being launched....its just hard to keep up.

I wanted to find out how do the profitable warriors fight and win over
"The Shinny Object Syndrome".

I for one was starry eyed initially (first couple of years) when I was new to the world of IM.

I had never met a Sales Copy that I didnt like...

But then again I had to grow up and learn the dirty little 5 letter word....
You the one that starts with F and U somewhere in there...
no I am not talking about that...

I am talking about F-O-C-U-S

To make a real killing I had to stop falling for all the hocus-pocus and I had to learn the alien concept of FOCUS....

Lets get the new up-n-commers some tips and save them some time and money...

If you have been regularly making a decent income (even if its only $25 per day), do you care-2-share whats got you over the Shinny Object Syndrome....
#fight #hey #make money #object #profittable #shinny #shinny object syndrome #syndrome #warriors
  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    What stops me buying WSO I don't need is the thought of reading 25-100 pages of stuff before I can do anything else.

    I get bored of reading stuff very quickly . Especially if it is about SEO. Yawn!

    And if the WSO is not related to what you are doing NOW it is likely to paralyze you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      I used to buy things like mad, it was only when I realised I had courses on things that were so out of date and I hadn't even read them, I decided to stop.

      I only buy things now I specifically want more information on. Not get rich things, more methods I need to know more about.
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      • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        I used to buy things like mad, it was only when I realised I had courses on things that were so out of date and I hadn't even read them, I decided to stop.

        I only buy things now I specifically want more information on. Not get rich things, more methods I need to know more about.
        I know the feeling Richard....I used to spend like I was handed over the bailout money and I had to oversee its distribution to all the marketers...
        There was no end in sight... but then I had to put some brakes on...

        I still buy more things that I use but then again... I am an idea collector...and an Idea masher... an idea here and an idea there and pretty soon I have a bag full of ideas....and no money to show for it unless I take some massive action....to monetize them...

        and monetize I do....

        One mediocre idea executed is infinitely more profitable than a perfect one that is marinating in ones head.

        Thanks for your tips
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by paintbrush4u View Post

          I know the feeling Richard....I used to spend like I was handed over the bailout money and I had to oversee its distribution to all the marketers...
          There was no end in sight... but then I had to put some brakes on...

          I still buy more things that I use but then again... I am an idea collector...and an Idea masher... an idea here and an idea there and pretty soon I have a bag full of ideas....and no money to show for it unless I take some massive action....to monetize them...

          and monetize I do....

          One mediocre idea executed is infinitely more profitable than a perfect one that is marinating in ones head.

          Thanks for your tips
          This is the key to making WSOs work. Collecting ideas and methods will never make you money, but implementing them will - so focus more on the implementation part, and try to cut down on the collection, at least until you implement what you already have and know about.
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          • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
            Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

            This is the key to making WSOs work. Collecting ideas and methods will never make you money, but implementing them will - so focus more on the implementation part, and try to cut down on the collection, at least until you implement what you already have and know about.
            Couldn't argue with that.....alteast couldn't do it intelligently....
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    • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
      Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

      What stops me buying WSO I don't need is the thought of reading 25-100 pages of stuff before I can do anything else.

      I get bored of reading stuff very quickly . Especially if it is about SEO. Yawn!

      And if the WSO is not related to what you are doing NOW it is likely to paralyze you.
      I couldnt agree with you more.....In todays world where everyone and their nanny is an author (and some of them even game Amazon to get #1 for like 3 nano seconds) people are just too exhausted....reading...
      Infact we are walking talking scanners not readers...

      I must admit though, I like SEO stuff...I know I know....but thats just me.
      Thanks for your contribution.
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  • Profile picture of the author rammonster
    Umm... Simply stay away from the WSO section and ignore the flashy banner ads above. you're good! :p
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    • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
      Originally Posted by rammonster View Post

      Umm... Simply stay away from the WSO section and ignore the flashy banner ads above. you're good! :p
      hmm but the banners tug on my heart first and then they crawl into my pocket....

      in all fairness, some of the banners do represent great products.. but again....not everything is for everyone.....hence we have the Baskin 31 Flavors....

      What are some of your favorite products.?
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      • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
        Buy what you need and make sure you actually need it first.

        Also learn to weed out the rehashed offers and over hyped offers.

        If you have 1 wso on seo and another comes out 4 weeks later it's pretty certain you don't need it unless the reviews after a few days are proclaiming it to be revolutionary.
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        • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
          Originally Posted by M Thompson View Post

          Buy what you need and make sure you actually need it first.

          Also learn to weed out the rehashed offers and over hyped offers.

          If you have 1 wso on seo and another comes out 4 weeks later it's pretty certain you don't need it unless the reviews after a few days are proclaiming it to be revolutionary.
          So very true.....
          But how do you put the WSO offer away for a couple of days when they threaten you with price increase... you know the regular trick...
          First 10 .....$1
          Next 10......$2
          Next 10......$3

          How do you make the judgement then? Do you wait for the review and end up paying more or do you jump in based on the copy and take the chance...but atleast you got a good deal while being taken for another ride.....wwwwwwiiiiipppppiiiiiiieeeee all over again
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          • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
            Originally Posted by paintbrush4u View Post

            So very true.....
            But how do you put the WSO offer away for a couple of days when they threaten you with price increase... you know the regular trick...
            First 10 .....$1
            Next 10......$2
            Next 10......$3

            How do you make the judgement then? Do you wait for the review and end up paying more or do you jump in based on the copy and take the chance...but atleast you got a good deal while being taken for another ride.....wwwwwwiiiiipppppiiiiiiieeeee all over again

            WSO's are never going to be that expensive, so you might miss it at $7 and have to buy at $17 .. you've spent an extra $10 but think how much you'll save over the a month by not diving in early on wso's you don't need.
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            • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
              Originally Posted by M Thompson View Post

              WSO's are never going to be that expensive, so you might miss it at $7 and have to buy at $17 .. you've spent an extra $10 but think how much you'll save over the a month by not diving in early on wso's you don't need.
              Hey Mark... I hope people are hearing what you just said....It's counter intuitive but thats exactly the antidote required to counter the chilling effects of a very compelling copy for a mediocre product.?

              Mark.. had a question...how to go about evaluating other peoples testimonials... some of them are soooo.....unreal....sounding like a paid puppy yapping away... I have seen some testimonials and social proof which were more hyped than the sales copy itself...can you believe it...there are a ton of those on Amazon.com reviews....I lost any respect I had for Amazon's reviews....

              How do you screen what other people are saying about a particular product?
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              • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
                Originally Posted by paintbrush4u View Post

                Hey Mark... I hope people are hearing what you just said....It's counter intuitive but thats exactly the antidote required to counter the chilling effects of a very compelling copy for a mediocre product.?

                Mark.. had a question...how to go about evaluating other peoples testimonials... some of them are soooo.....unreal....sounding like a paid puppy yapping away... I have seen some testimonials and social proof which were more hyped than the sales copy itself...can you believe it...there are a ton of those on Amazon.com reviews....I lost any respect I had for Amazon's reviews....

                How do you screen what other people are saying about a particular product?
                I agree with Mark's Philosohpy....
                I would any day pay a full price or even a premium price for a good product than get a 50% or even 80% off on a sub-par product...

                Now if its 90% discount.... its hard to pass that up...yet....
                I guess I still have to go to therapy to get that taken care of.
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                • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
                  Originally Posted by paintbrush4u View Post

                  I agree with Mark's Philosohpy....
                  I would any day pay a full price or even a premium price for a good product than get a 50% or even 80% off on a sub-par product...

                  Now if its 90% discount.... its hard to pass that up...yet....
                  I guess I still have to go to therapy to get that taken care of.
                  The Problem with this is that its the sales letter that makes you buy, and until you have bought the product you have no idea which category its in.

                  Unless the headline "this is a good product hence the premium price" would make you purchase anything
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                  • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
                    Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

                    The Problem with this is that its the sales letter that makes you buy, and until you have bought the product you have no idea which category its in.

                    Unless the headline "this is a good product hence the premium price" would make you purchase anything
                    Robert....for 99% of the products esp for ebooks, the COPY is typically the best part.. the product NEVER is as good as the copy....(there are only a handful of exceptions that I can think of)...PERIOD.
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              • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
                Originally Posted by paintbrush4u View Post


                Mark.. had a question...how to go about evaluating other peoples testimonials... some of them are soooo.....unreal....sounding like a paid puppy yapping away...

                How do you screen what other people are saying about a particular product?
                You pretty much just answered your question.

                you'll find many reviews that just give the facts with out the need for hype,

                In the WSO forum i generally disregard any reviews from people that have less than 20 or 30 posts especially if they joined in the past few weeks and I give added value to reviews from people who have lots of posts and are well known warriors.
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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by paintbrush4u View Post

            So very true.....
            But how do you put the WSO offer away for a couple of days when they threaten you with price increase... you know the regular trick...
            First 10 .....$1
            Next 10......$2
            Next 10......$3

            How do you make the judgement then? Do you wait for the review and end up paying more or do you jump in based on the copy and take the chance...but atleast you got a good deal while being taken for another ride.....wwwwwwiiiiipppppiiiiiiieeeee all over again
            You'll learn in due time to stay away from all these bright and shiny objects. Don't even contemplate buying a WSO unless you have an immediate need for it, despite how tempting it may appear to you.

            As I mentioned above, collecting ideas that you don't implement won't get you anywhere, so don't even buy a WSO unless you have a need for it and can implement it right away. Ignore all those price increases, they shouldn't matter if it's a product that isn't relevant to what you're doing right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
    <<<< NOTE >>>>>

    I just wanted to add....if you can pick atleast 1 but not more than 3 top products you had purchased... I think it would help the other readers tremendously...Now please be honest and respectful coz people MAY take your advice seriously....

    My fav for this week is the product by SEOSlayer.... which talk about SEO (ofcourse). He offered a good product at a fair price and is very mindful of providing customer service.

    What are your favorites.. and why?


    PS: I am not selling anything here so there is no hidden agenda...in case if you are wondering.....I am just a IMer who is trying to GOING Green. I love the GREEN Revolution. Heck, it beats the alternative....
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  • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
    Just wanted to add this here... Please refrain from putting in a plug for your own products here....if you have a successful product....

    Let others do that for you.... if you have really provided a good unique product and delivered excellent value.... trust me.... one genuine testimonial will far outperform a 1000 manufactured ones......

    For what its worth...

    PS: If you have you plug in your signature I guess thats perfectly fine. You paid for it and you should have a fair chance to monetize it.
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    • Profile picture of the author rammonster
      Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

      be the one making the shiny objects to sell
      I like it!! Why the hell not??
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      • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
        Originally Posted by rammonster View Post

        I like it!! Why the hell not??
        I so agree...with you...Why the heck not?
        Any ideas on what you think it should be?
        I got one.... how to get a perfect haircut online....now howz that for original....
        No but on a serious note... I will have one later on in the summer...
        Thats all I am going to say here....
        No plugs .....remember
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    • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
      You bet... one day....I might just sit down and document what works for me and offer it for sale I guess...
      I will tell you this that not only it be a SHINNY but it will also be SQUEAKY clean too...
      But thats for another day....

      Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

      be the one making the shiny objects to sell
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  • Profile picture of the author DR's Fynest
    First of all, I'm not 100% over this syndrome myself BUT I realized a couple of months ago that it was this constant buying of "shiny" objects that gave me the most analysis paralysis.

    Since realizing that, I generally buy 1 WSO per month. Sometimes the offer is so irresistible that it makes it hard. Especially when it's one of the guys you've bought from before and you actually DID love the product you bought from them so you're immediately thinking it should be good and you want to get in on the early price.

    The best advice that I can give is to stop buying products (not just WSOs) that aren't going to help you with whatever you're doing right now. I'm speaking from personal experience here...

    Until just recently, I was drawn to basically EVERY money making method being offered here. A lot of them sounded amazing and some of them actually ARE amazing. But like most I simply never took action on them. No action - no reward. Hence my signature

    So it makes NO sense in buying a CPA method if you're actually doing Adsense right now. Or buying an Adsense course when you're still trying to make some income via Clickbank affiliate sales. However, it does make a lot of sense to purchase an in-depth, well reviewed (or purchased from a trusted Warrior in my case) SEO course if like me, you're struggling to break into first page with top rankings.

    Once I experienced some success with 1 method, I decided that was what I was going to try to make profitable first. I can always go back to those other methods I've bought and tackle them one at a time - some other time.

    Do I still buy WSOs? Yes, but only those 110% related to what I'm currently doing. I've also got to the point where I can now say "Meh... Sounds cool... REALLY COOL ACTUALLY... But not for me right now... Move on... Now... Before you change your mind and click that buy button..." lol

    BTW, I'm still not making thousands and I'm not ashamed to admit it. However, I'm finally on a path that will take me to that someday. Hopefully sooner than later.
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    • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
      Originally Posted by DR's Fynest View Post

      Do I still buy WSOs? Yes, but only those 110% related to what I'm currently doing. I've also got to the point where I can now say "Meh... Sounds cool... REALLY COOL ACTUALLY... But not for me right now... Move on... Now... Before you change your mind and click that buy button..." lol

      BTW, I'm still not making thousands and I'm not ashamed to admit it. However, I'm finally on a path that will take me to that someday. Hopefully sooner than later.
      You my friend have attained a higher level of learning nd buying when you can say that WSO looks, cool, infact very evry cool and you still pass it by without it getting into your pocket.

      I am sure you will make thousands one day some day soon.

      To your success
      -PB
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Get a War Room Membership.

        There are lots and lots of shiny new objects in there, as well as some ancient treasures.

        Go in there for about a week and you will forget to spend anymore money.
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        • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
          Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

          Get a War Room Membership.

          There are lots and lots of shiny new objects in there, as well as some ancient treasures.

          Go in there for about a week and you will forget to spend anymore money.
          I dont think I understand... does War room has products for free or are people so openly and selflessly sharing in the war room.

          Where can I find out more about what WAR room is and how it benefits?
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          • Profile picture of the author unclepennybags
            Ahh yes. The infamous Shiny Object Syndrome or SOS for short. You already know what the treatment is. FOCUS.

            Just take a look at the bottom of my signature. Look at that quote by Bruce Lee.

            Now you might think it was a coincidence that Bruce Lee specifically used the term "warrior" and the name of this forum is the Warrior Forum.

            But actually legend has it that Bruce Lee knew that one day an internet marketing forum would arise and it would be called the Warrior Forum.

            And these warriors will need to be reminded what makes them warriors and that is not just any focus but LASER-LIKE FOCUS.
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          • Profile picture of the author mike gregory
            Originally Posted by paintbrush4u View Post

            I dont think I understand... does War room has products for free or are people so openly and selflessly sharing in the war room.

            Where can I find out more about what WAR room is and how it benefits?
            The war room is full of quality tips, techniques, ideas, products as well as WSO's, and yes there free It really is a great investment.
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            • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
              Originally Posted by mike gregory View Post

              The war room is full of quality tips, techniques, ideas, products as well as WSO's, and yes there free It really is a great investment.
              Thanks Mike for your feedback. WOW!!!! I wasn't aware of that...
              Last time I checked the math works out great...
              Thanks for the tip....
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    Program your Psycho Cybernetic Mechanism to focus on only one Goal and it will keep you on track to achieve that goal.
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    • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
      Originally Posted by CyberSorcerer View Post

      Program your Psycho Cybernetic Mechanism to focus on only one Goal and it will keep you on track to achieve that goal.
      I come from the school of Maxwell Maltz...one of the life interrupting books I read was by him... and you are right...One Goal....

      I heard it sometime back....

      Rich People have ONE Goal
      Broke People have TWO Goals
      Broke Intelligent people have TOO MANY GOALS....


      It hit me like a ton of bricks.....when I had heard it coz I was (lets just say) not in the first category then...
      A lot can be said about the Singleness of Purpose.....
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  • Hi PaintBrush.

    Shiny Object Syndrome (SOS) is definitely something that a lot of marketers have to look out for. LOL. Once you start seeing the flag, if you don't stop you'll lose focus and not be able to do anything properly or for extended durations of time.

    Anyways, some of the key ways you can fight it I believe include trying to avoid all possible contact with any place that advertises or talks about the shiny objects. For example, you might want to:

    1. Stop visiting forums or discussion boards.
    2. Unsubscribe from all mailing lists.
    3. Stop reading blogs or reviews.

    Well, most people would find it hard to do those things. But just giving some suggestions.

    I have tried these before, and they worked for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
      Originally Posted by Illumination View Post

      Hi PaintBrush.

      For example, you might want to:

      1. Stop visiting forums or discussion boards.
      2. Unsubscribe from all mailing lists.
      3. Stop reading blogs or reviews.

      Well, most people would find it hard to do those things. But just giving some suggestions.

      I have tried these before, and they worked for me.
      I agree... the best way to fight a temptation is by avoiding it in the first place....
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by paintbrush4u View Post

        I agree... the best way to fight a temptation is by avoiding it in the first place....
        As the saying goes, "out of sight, out of mind." Try staying away from the WSO section for several days at a time, and try to focus on more productive uses of your time. Better yet, join the War Room and instead spend all your time downloading and browsing through the material there.
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        • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          As the saying goes, "out of sight, out of mind." Try staying away from the WSO section for several days at a time, and try to focus on more productive uses of your time. Better yet, join the War Room and instead spend all your time downloading and browsing through the material there.
          Thanks a Lot Paul.... I am sold....I will get into the warrior room in April.
          What are the other genuine valuable resources...that you can point me to....
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  • Profile picture of the author DR's Fynest
    Well that's another huge one too.

    I'm only subscribed to a very few "select" lists that are people I've come to admire and respect mostly by reading their posts here in the WF.

    I think John Schwartz said it best in a very recent mailing he did. Just count how many "offers" you get in any given week. Keeping in mind that the average product is about $20. Do the math. Pretty eye opening stuff lol.

    One of the best things to do is to unsubscribe from any mailing list that is simply pushing you offer after offer after offer. I know we're all in this to make money, but there are some who are just pimping their lists for as much $$$ as they can. Not cool.

    The less "cool" offers you get, the more focused you remain in doing what you ought to be doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
      Originally Posted by DR's Fynest View Post

      Well that's another huge one too.
      ...
      ...


      One of the best things to do is to unsubscribe from any mailing list that is simply pushing you offer after offer after offer. I know we're all in this to make money, but there are some who are just pimping their lists for as much $$$ as they can. Not cool.

      The less "cool" offers you get, the more focused you remain in doing what you ought to be doing.
      I soooo agreee.. some people just become so abusive with their lists... and they are so shortsighted...
      Classic story of Goose that lays the golden eggs..
      Some people sacrifice the goose to get it all....TODAY.

      SOOO UNCOOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author christopher jon
    The WF is full of incredible product launches sometimes too many new ones coming out every single day.
    If I was to write checks for each product that came out that I like, I would be ready to order by second set of checkbooks soon.

    There are soo many new ebooks, reports, processes, softwares (Translated to Shinny Objects) being launched....its just hard to keep up.
    To be honest, I never had this problem.

    I was making money online before I ever stepped foot into a marketing forum and had no need for an easy button or magic solution.

    I'll pick up something every now and then if it strikes my fancy but it's more for entertainment value.

    Making money online isn't complicated.

    Sell something, get a lot of people who want to buy that product to your website.

    Build a list, pester those people to buy more stuff.

    Create a product and get other people to make money for you.

    Create an information site and plaster it with adsense ads.

    The rest is all details and some common sense.

    Advice for the newbies,

    A little initiative and determination can go a lot farther than anything written in an ebook. In other words, quit dreaming and start doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by christopher jon View Post

      To be honest, I never had this problem.

      I was making money online before I ever stepped foot into a marketing forum and had no need for an easy button or magic solution.

      I'll pick up something every now and then if it strikes my fancy but it's more for entertainment value.

      Making money online isn't complicated.

      Sell something, get a lot of people who want to buy that product to your website.

      Build a list, pester those people to buy more stuff.

      Create a product and get other people to make money for you.

      Create an information site and plaster it with adsense ads.

      The rest is all details and some common sense.

      Advice for the newbies,

      A little initiative and determination can go a lot farther than anything written in an ebook. In other words, quit dreaming and start doing.
      I feel that if he has this almost fatal attraction towards WSOs, he should establish ground rules about what to do with each and every one that he purchases. When he buys something, he should read through it thoroughly and implement it until he can make it work, and generate some income in the process.

      He should apply this same rule to every WSO that he purchases, and he isn't permitted to buy another one until he makes it work! This way, hopefully he'll spend more time implementing IM techniques, and less time browsing and fantasizing about the next best WSO.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Here, let me spam an old video a bit here, lol:

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      • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        I feel that if he has this almost fatal attraction towards WSOs, he should establish ground rules about what to do with each and every one that he purchases. When he buys something, he should read through it thoroughly and implement it until he can make it work, and generate some income in the process.

        He should apply this same rule to every WSO that he purchases, and he isn't permitted to buy another one until he makes it work! This way, hopefully he'll spend more time implementing IM techniques, and less time browsing and fantasizing about the next best WSO.
        Man... this thread is really generating a lot of valuable advice....
        This is good... and keep it coming...
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  • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
    I see myself falling again in the Shinny Object Syndrome.....

    I gotto control myself....I get withdrawal symptoms.....

    Is it Christmas yet.....?

    My wife says shes got the shinny object syndrome from me....

    She wants a new shinny object.....

    And she wants a 2 carat solitaire.....

    Heaven Help Me.....

    On a Serious note:

    What have you bought 6 months back that you still use TODAY...
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  • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
    I just saw a banner ad by Kelly F based on "Shiny Object Syndrome"... Did anyone else notice it too?
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