Did you receive Sean Mize's eMail Today? (Selling his business?)

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I was shocked.

For anyone who has been living under a rock for the past 5 years, Sean Mize is the top eZineArticle author with over 25,000 of his articles submitted there. He uses the articles to drive traffic to his squeeze pages and build his list. He then sells products and his high-end coaching programs.

Just a few minutes ago I get an email from him linking to an audio file where he explains that he is selling his complete business : All of his products, all of his training courses, all of his mP3 files, squeeze pages and sales pages. His products retail from $10 to $5,000. He explains it all in the audio as well as why he is doing this.

I'm sure many of you are on his list. Just curious--what's your take on this? He averages over 250k a year with this business. Hard to imagine him selling. If you got the audio file, what do you think about his offer?

I was shocked but I'll have to wait a bit and see what happens with it.

--Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

    I was shocked.

    For anyone who has been living under a rock for the past 5 years, Sean Mize is the top eZineArticle author with over 25,000 of his articles submitted there. He uses the articles to drive traffic to his squeeze pages and build his list. He then sells products and his high-end coaching programs.

    Just a few minutes ago I get an email from him linking to an audio file where he explains that he is selling his complete business : All of his products, all of his training courses, all of his mP3 files, squeeze pages and sales pages. His products retail from $10 to $5,000. He explains it all in the audio as well as why he is doing this.

    I'm sure many of you are on his list. Just curious--what's your take on this? He averages over 250k a year with this business. Hard to imagine him selling. If you got the audio file, what do you think about his offer?

    I was shocked but I'll have to wait a bit and see what happens with it.

    --Mike
    I don't believe I'm on any of his lists (at least not anymore - underwent a mass unsubscribe operation a few months ago to cut down on the number of distractions in my inbox every day :p).

    Interesting, though. Any mention of how much it's selling for?
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    I can't speak for him, obviously--but after listening to his audio pitch he sends you to a page where you input your name and email. He doesn't give a price, it's vague. He asks you to go to another page where you must opt-in to get his exact price.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peggy Baron
    Hi Mike,
    I'm not on his list anymore so I didn't get the email. Do you think it has anything to do with the Google changes and the effects on EzineArticles? Since article marketing with EZA was a big part of Sean's business?

    Now I'm really curious on the price...

    Peggy
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    • Profile picture of the author merlincat
      I recieved this email, and didn't even open it. Because it's not the first time I've seen this type of headline in a marketing email, so you could call me sceptical....
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      • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
        Originally Posted by merlincat View Post

        I recieved this email, and didn't even open it. Because it's not the first time I've seen this type of headline in a marketing email, so you could call me sceptical....
        Sceptical, maybe - but certainly not unreasonably so, for exactly this reason. :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
          Maybe he wants to invest the money in a business model that works better.

          Or he's tired of working from home in his pyjamas?


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          • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
            Pretty standard marketing pitch these days to announce your "retirement" ...

            But maybe he's made a boatload of dough from the sale and just want's to retire and find more meaningful pursuits ... if so - good for him!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

    over 25,000 articles
    He uses the articles to drive traffic to his squeeze pages
    sells products and his high-end coaching programs.
    His products retail from $10 to $5,000.
    He averages over 250k a year with this business

    --Mike
    Interesting
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      .over 25,000 articles
      He uses the articles to drive traffic to his squeeze pages
      sells products and his high-end coaching programs.
      His products retail from $10 to $5,000.
      He averages over 250k a year with this business

      --Mike
      Interesting
      Very interesting indeed.

      I think my instinctive thoughts here are rather out of step with those of others, though (unless Ron meant this, also?).

      I find it very surprising that in such a longstanding business, from 25,000 articles, with traffic driven to squeeze pages, selling products ranging between $10 and $5,000, he's allegedly making only just over $20k per month?! Surely something's "not quite right" with these figures? :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by Sebastien Omeragic View Post

    >He averages over 250k a year with this business. Hard to imagine him selling.
    I don't understand all the puzzlement. While there may be special circumstances contributing to the timing of the sale, it's only sensible to start any business with an exit strategy in mind.

    Or were you planning to work forever?


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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

      I don't understand all the puzzlement. While there may be special circumstances contributing to the timing of the sale, it's only sensible to start any business with an exit strategy in mind.

      Frank
      Donovan,

      Will you stop being sensible?

      Martin
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

        Donovan,
        Will you stop being sensible?
        Oops. Apologies, Martin. I'm sure it's just a blip.


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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Sebastien,

      Originally Posted by Sebastien Omeragic View Post

      To play it safe, I want to apologize for any potential confusion mate. You appear to have been addressing me, but perhaps not.
      No need to apologize; I was just using the quote in your post to illustrate a trend of thought I perceived throughout the thread. You actually listed some valid reasons for selling, any of which might apply to this situation.


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    • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

      I don't understand all the puzzlement. While there may be special circumstances contributing to the timing of the sale, it's only sensible to start any business with an exit strategy in mind.

      Or were you planning to work forever?


      Frank
      I disagree COMPLETELY. When starting out, your focus should be entirely on finding and building a model that works. Focusing on selling out is the wrong thing to focus on, at least in the beginning.

      Would you start a relationship planning the break up? Of course not.

      You should strive to find something that works, then if the system's effectiveness changes(like EZineArticle's has) THEN think about selling.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
        Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke View Post

        I disagree COMPLETELY. When starting out, your focus should be entirely on finding and building a model that works. Focusing on selling out is the wrong thing to focus on, at least in the beginning.

        Would you start a relationship planning the break up? Of course not.

        You should strive to find something that works, then if the system's effectiveness changes(like EZineArticle's has) THEN think about selling.
        You obviously haven't started many multimillion a year businesses, have you?

        An exit strategy is ALWAYS something you have in mind.

        And mind you, an exit strategy doesn't have to be you selling the business. It could simply mean you turning it over to someone else and you get a smaller cut, but it's all managed for you.

        Ann Huffington sold Huffington Post for 300+ million. That was her strategy all along. Most business owners who shoot for real money (millions) have a strategy for getting themselves out of it.

        In fact, one popular business model online is based on the 'exit strategy'. It's called site flipping. You build a site, get it earning, then get out of it.

        And finally, businesses are NOT relationships. Sorry, nothing like it at all. Big difference? I own the business. I don't own my wife. A new business can be built and planned just as easily as the one before it.

        Rob
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        • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
          Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

          You obviously haven't started many multimillion a year businesses, have you?
          ....
          Ann Huffington sold Huffington Post for 300+ million. That was her strategy all along. Most business owners who shoot for real money (millions) have a strategy for getting themselves out of it.
          Rob
          Neither have you, so don't insinuate you have.

          I went to one of the top universities in the country and am more than familiar with the "Start a biz with the aim of being bought out in a couple of years". One of my friends(also 24) became a millionaire about 6 months ago because of that strategy. Other friends and former classmates are on their way to such endeavors. I understand it happens, so don't throw out "ZOMG but look at Huffington Post, they did it!" or "But what about site flipping, that exists!". No s***, Sherlock.

          I'm NOT saying it doesn't work, I'm saying a better model, as it pertains to earning money for long term businesses in general is to focus on the consumer and what they want. When you focus on leaving, you emphasize the wrong points. Instead of getting customers to love you, your business, and your services, you are busy worrying who's going to buy you out.

          I currently make a substantial(mostly online) income because I choose to focus on business models that WORK, and work long term. Selling out is an option at all times, but why would I do so now when I continue to make money with methods I enjoy and can replicate over and over?

          Now, when I'm presented with better options, get bored with what I'm doing, or whatever, THEN I'd look into selling.

          I understand Frank's strategy, and (with respect ) disagree slightly.

          I'd rather focus on my commitment strategy before my exit strategy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke View Post

        I disagree COMPLETELY. When starting out, your focus should be entirely on finding and building a model that works. Focusing on selling out is the wrong thing to focus on, at least in the beginning.

        Would you start a relationship planning the break up? Of course not.

        No harm in a bit of disagreement.

        However, I think you're confusing my "exit strategy in mind" with your "focus on". That's not the same thing at all.

        You should certainly be focused on building your business, although one would hope you've already established that the model works.

        I've started and sold three offline businesses and I began each one with the end sale in mind. In fact, that goal dictated many of the decisions that had to be taken whilst running those businesses.

        Furthermore, I wouldn't have received the financial backing for the first business without an exit strategy in place.

        Unlike a relationship, I've never thought of a business as a job for life - I don't know any entrepreneurs who think otherwise.


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        • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post


          Furthermore, I wouldn't have received the financial backing for the first business without an exit strategy in place.
          This is something that I have been learning a lot about. People won't just hand you cash (banks, investors, etc.) unless you have some plan on how they are going to make money on you.

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  • Profile picture of the author backendbuddy
    I did not receive the message, just heard here. Bit wondering, how someone can decide such things? May be he got enough money and want to retire now. Whatever it be certainly, i think it is just part of the business - if Sean is no longer their, it will be a losing concern soon. The fact is he is selling the business that is totally depended on the man.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
    Never heard of him but 250k seems low. Especially when you got products for 5k.

    Lee Mcintyre does 200k a month and I dont think he has products at 5k.
    Jason Fladien the same.
    Large scale product launches can make that within 2 weeks.

    What I am getting at here is maybe that isn't his main focus and he wants to give priority to another business
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      An alternative take on early retirement

      Retiring Rich: Traveling Mark


      Martin
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      • Profile picture of the author Kent F
        I've been on and off Sean's list a few times. I'm on it now and got the e-mail. He's sold "all his stuff" before - this is nothing new. I believe he's going into coaching full-time and is probably just tired of selling or producing products.

        One thing about Sean's method is that it is 100% article driven. Unless you think Twitter and FB are going to be gone in 2 years, you realize that AM is not what it once was and Social Marketing is the future. Not saying AM is dead, but it would seem that Sean would be hard-pressed to duplicate his success starting today.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Martin,

        Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

        An alternative take on early retirement
        Retiring Rich: Traveling Mark
        Thanks for the link. I'll bet Mark is a fan of Rolf Potts.


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        • Profile picture of the author eleary
          It's hard to find Frank Kern's products now too - I think he went to something similar... coaching for high paying clients. It does seem to be a trend.
          However, it would be interesting to know if his (Sean Mize) business took a dive with the new changes in Google. If he is really selling his business, and not just rights to sell his products or something like that, I imagine he will have to have the numbers so a drop in numbers would be pretty obvious to the buyer.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kingshouse
            Originally Posted by eleary View Post

            It's hard to find Frank Kern's products now too - I think he went to something similar... coaching for high paying clients. It does seem to be a trend.
            However, it would be interesting to know if his (Sean Mize) business took a dive with the new changes in Google. If he is really selling his business, and not just rights to sell his products or something like that, I imagine he will have to have the numbers so a drop in numbers would be pretty obvious to the buyer.
            I just wanted to throw in here that Sean Mize still uses article marketing to drive his traffic to his numerous websites.

            If article marketing is no longer cutting it for him then it makes no business sense that he is presently the no. 1 article marketer ate Ezineasrticles.com

            His business has not taken a nose dive he has simply called time if you like on $37 or $97 ebooks. In fact you will find that he gives away $97 ebooks for free. I don't know if you have observed same but the ebook market is not what it used to be.

            I have been on his list a few years and he is a straight talking chap.

            I have heard talk about gurus making several thousands a month. Well if you have to pay affiliates 75% then I don't think you walk off to the bank with whatever several thousands you are making a month. If you have an affiliate program I think you will understand where I am coming from.

            Sean Mize has only recently started an affiliate program (another way of giving others rights to sell your products).

            If I can go one further on this then I will say that I hope you realise that the gurus are not making theor money on $9 ebooks.

            All in all to say he is simply concentrating on coaching (high ticket products).

            Sellings rights to your products is not necessarily selling your business it's simply another way of others being able to sell your products.

            I hope this helps

            Will
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Yeah, I understand people's skepticism for sure. One thing he mentioned was that he wasn't getting out of the business entirely, just selling rights to all of his materials. One thing he didn't mention in his laundry list of products he was selling was his list. That would obviously be a huge asset.

    One thing he mentioned was that he wanted to devote his time exclusively to very high-end clients and not focus on teaching list-building and email marketing to beginners. He did say he wasn't selling the materials with PLR rights and that they couldn't be given away for any purpose. Also that one couldn't put their name on them--just that they could sell them and keep all of the profits.

    One thing that wasn't clear was whether he was looking for one buyer or would sell these rights to multiple parties. I know many of his resource boxes take you to a 10k platinum coaching program after confirming. That seems pretty high-end to me, but I've also heard him mention in some of his programs that he also does consulting to people and businesses for fees much higher than this.

    Like I said, I certainly can speak for Sean, and like you--I'm not privy to his innermost motivations. Maybe it's exactly as he stated.

    If you're not familiar with Sean he offers his $15,000-a-month plan for free at the squeeze page below.

    Internet Marketing | Internet Marketing Coaching | High Ticket Selling

    It's 30 pages and on page 12 he gives statistics on how fast he grew his list and his earnings from it during his first year of article marketing. The numbers are kind of interesting. It's not an overnight road to wealth, but it's kind of interesting to see how fast things began to snowball after months 5-6 for him. If you do article marketing, you might find it an interesting read. --Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      just selling rights to all of his materials. One thing he didn't mention in his laundry list of products he was selling was his list. That would obviously be a huge asset.
      Indeed.

      Call me pedantic, but if this is "selling his business", I'm a Dutchman. (By the way mijn eigen bedrijf is niet te koop). :p
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      • Profile picture of the author affilcrazy
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I'm a Dutchman. (By the way mijn eigen bedrijf is niet te koop). :p
        Verkoop alstublieft mij uw zaken, kan ik vijf dollars aanbieden! :p

        Dank u
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        • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
          Originally Posted by affilcrazy View Post

          Verkoop alstublieft mij uw zaken, kan ik vijf dollars aanbieden! :p
          Partha
          I'll bied tien .

          Agreed, Alexa. I was thinking, if the choice presented itself, and I could have either the rights to all of the products he is offering, or--have his list, which would I choose for one fixed sum? Without knowing its exact size, I'm pretty sure I'd take the list. --Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Indeed.

        Call me pedantic, but if this is "selling his business", I'm a Dutchman. (By the way mijn eigen bedrijf is niet te koop). :p
        Somebody just let the cat out of the bag, lol. I'll leave it to others to figure out how.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Well, some of your questions were answered just now. Just got a second email this morning directing readers to an info page about his sale, including his asking price...
    http://www.secrets-of-internet-succe...iness/2011.htm
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    • Profile picture of the author garben2011
      I think Sean has been heading in that direction and even dropped some hints to that effect over the past year IIRC.

      This is a huge amount of material being offered and he has a very down to earth very low hype approach that I've always appreciated.

      Hopefully, someone has the skills & ability to put this to good use.

      And I wish Sean the best of luck in his upgrade to that next level.
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      Well, some of your questions were answered just now. Just got a second email this morning directing readers to an info page about his sale, including his asking price...
      http://www.secrets-of-internet-succe...iness/2011.htm
      Mike,

      The products he's selling retail for a total of $11,869 (his figure).

      If he's making $250,000 a year he's only averaging 21 sales per product per year.

      If he's making, let's say, $100k of the $250k from high end personal coaching then he's averaging 12.6 sales per product per year.

      If 100 people buy the rights to his products then it would take each of them on average 2 years to recoup the $2,997 price based on the current size of the market.

      Over 4 years they would average a profit of $750 a year.

      So, as a prospective buyer, you would have to ask yourself

      1. How saturated will the market become?

      2. Are these products evergreen enough to have a shelf life of at least 4 years?

      3. Am I good enough to go up against an unknown number of other marketers and get a bigger slice of the pie? And if Sean is going to keep selling the same stuff as well . . . ?

      4. Is the fact Sean's name will stay on all the products a plus or a minus?

      5. Sean wants to 'break free' of this business model because it is limiting his growth (it seems he's tired of dealing with newbies). Will I get a good ROI before I want to break free as well?


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      • Profile picture of the author JRCarson
        Sounds like a great continuation of doing business with the sign up to see the price and all...

        If you aren't Sean Mize, then you are buying PLR, not a business.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Well put, Martin.

    One thing you mentioned that I wondered about as well: Is the fact Sean's name will stay on all the products a plus or a minus?

    He does a lot of coaching, so simply having his products--or rights to his products--may not mean a lot. I just don't know.

    There are a lot of Amish farms south of where I live. Yes, they can build exquisite houses and barns with a hammer, saw and brace and bit. But because they can do that by no means gives me any degree of confidence I could do the same. I cannot. The same might be true with the tools Sean is selling. He built something of significance with them; Others may not be so fortunate. Can't say. --Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
      It's a marketing tactic used to squeeze even more money out of people.

      He's selling his rights because the products are dying and he wants to turn them over once more instead of simply retiring them (my best guess).

      If you have to opt in to get the real scoop, then that should be your first clue.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    Sean's email marketing might be a bit annoying as I see his e-mails almost every single day, but this guy really knows his stuff. I learned a lot from him even without paying a dime to buy any of his stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kent F
      Sean has provided another product - his entire coaching series - for a much lower price - and it is PLR - that is, you can take off his name and call it your coaching class.

      I tend to agree with what's been said here. Is it reasonable to assume you'll be successful using someone else's material to "coach" with?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jillycakes
    Maybe I'm being overly skeptical here, but I can't see how this guy is earning a quarter of a million dollars per year - especially if EZine is a huge part of his business. Going by his profile page there, he's only averaging a little over 100 views per article. Choosing one random article, it doesn't seem to offer much: http://ezinearticles.com/?Product-Cr...ion&id=2781643

    I realize he probably has other funnels and other article marketing accounts/niches, but this doesn't seem like an indicator of quality or success. If this is how successful article marketing is done, then I'm truly lost.
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    • Profile picture of the author Doug Wakefield
      100 views per article.

      24603 total articles

      Just using that math gives you 2,460,300 article views.

      Giving him a modest CTR of 25% would give him over a half million clicks to his site. 615,075 just doing that math.

      Then you just need to do the math on his subscriptions. Lets just give him a modest 25% subscription rate on that traffic and he has 153,768 subscriptions.

      By that math, him saying he only makes 250k a year is the weird part. He claims $2 a subscriber a month... which seems off really. Puts the number of subscriptions around 10000. That pulls 20k a month which is right around 240k a year.

      Of course these numbers are all pulled out of my rear end, but even working off the metric of 100 views per article it doesn't take much to realize that the volume approach can easily work.
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  • Profile picture of the author whaldorf
    In order to truly buy his business you would want to receive all the articles (and the domains they point to).

    That would be a decent investment, despite the hit ezinearticles has taken recently from the big G.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I don't think I would buy a business that was largely dependent on EzineArticles for traffic, considering the Panda smackdown on EZA.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kingshouse
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I don't think I would buy a business that was largely dependent on EzineArticles for traffic, considering the Panda smackdown on EZA.

      Neither would I buy a business based on Facebook traffic but does that mean that people are not or cannot make money using Facebook as a traffic generation strategy?

      Article marketing still works if you know what you are doing.

      Google has simply cracked down on all those spun articles that have been enjoying high search engine placement when they should have been thrown out as duplicate content.

      It might take some time but it will be business as normal at Eza.


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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Kingshouse View Post

        Neither would I buy a business based on Facebook traffic but does that mean that people are not or cannot make money using Facebook as a traffic generation strategy?

        Article marketing still works if you know what you are doing.

        Google has simply cracked down on all those spun articles that have been enjoying high search engine placement when they should have been thrown out as duplicate content.

        It might take some time but it will be business as normal at Eza.


        Will
        That remains to be seen whether or not they will get the traffic back. They are still a content farm. EZA took a huge hit in traffic with the Google changes and I certainly wouldn't be willing to put out big bucks on a business that relied on them for traffic. There's too many other businesses that don't that I could spend money on.
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      • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
        Originally Posted by Kingshouse View Post

        Google has simply cracked down on all those spun articles that have been enjoying high search engine placement when they should have been thrown out ...
        I partially agree. Cracking down on thin, low-quality content is the ultimate aim, of course, but the reality is that that's all most of these article directories (and other content-farms) comprise of.

        As such, it's not just specific individual articles on these sites that have seen a drop in rankings and traffic-levels - it's the sites as a whole. Even the good-quality stuff can no longer rank highly off its own merits, because Google assesses quality not just on an article-by-article basis, but on a collective, site-wide basis.

        It will take a lot of rubbish disposal, a significant amount of time and an intense tightening of quality standards before it's "business as usual" for these sites again ... if indeed it ever is.

        Originally Posted by Kingshouse View Post

        Article marketing still works if you know what you are doing.
        This I completely agree with, if what you're referring to when you say "article marketing" is article syndication, and not "article directory marketing" (which is essentially just bum marketing).

        On many user-generated-content sites, easy Google rankings without building a ton of backlinks to each article is a thing of the past. And there's simply no point in building backlinks to someone else's site when you could be building them to your own and having your articles rank there, instead, without running the risk of other users' half-arsed content (the acceptance/publication of which you have no control over, of course!) dragging you down.

        But yes ... traditional article marketing (article syndication) is still a powerful and profitable means of generating traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Sinopoli
    In my real life I am a business broker. I don't know Mr. Mize personally, but in my experience in selling brick and mortar business many times the seller knows of a reason why the income to the business will be reduced. I would not be surprised if the Panda update figures large in this. Or it could be that he is just burned out and needs a rest.
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  • I'll never understand why people consider being a #1 or #2 writer at EZA special. It's a PAID position, people. The ONLY thing that makes Mize #1 on EZA is the QUANTITY of his articles. Not the quality, the conversions, clicks or any other figure. He has the most; that makes him number one and nothing else. End of story and excuse me for yawning.

    He only wrote the first 1,500 articles, then he paid for every article thereafter. (Plenty of excellent writers here on the WF have written far more articles than Sean wrote himself, and I'd wager that some of them are in this very thread and were at least as successful as Sean. Maybe more so, and they probably spent far less money.) Now don't start attacking me because I'm not impressed by this. All I am saying is that being number one on EZA is a result of VOLUME only.

    If you want to be impressed by how much money he's spent on articles or on how effective of a manager he is, then I agree and he definitely deserves props for that.

    But I've suspected something has been up for a while. The guy is mucking around here in the WF selling a $7 WSO. For a guy like Mize that's equivalent to scrounging for nickels.

    I bought the WSO just to check it out and attempt to understand why the Mighty Mize is selling a $7 WSO. It came with some free PDF bonuses. While I haven't listened to the audio yet, I was pretty surprised to discover that Mize is LITERALLY teaching the following:

    1.) Good writers should be writing at least 5 and preferably 10 500 word articles per hour

    2.) The only source you'll ever need for research for your articles is EzineArticles.

    Seriously?

    Why any writer worth his/her salt would ever heed this advice I certainly can't understand.

    I know, you're all going to tell me that he's made "millions" and so on, so whatever he does is successful and is clearly a method that works. That's great and I'm not denying that. I'm just saying that based on what I'm seeing, things probably aren't going well for Mize.

    Of course, he could just be implementing his exit strategy as others have stated in this post. I tend to doubt that but it's possible.

    And by the way; who develops successful business plans without an exit strategy? Ever applied for a business loan before? An exit strategy is a required component of the business plan that you submit with your application.

    In my mind the exit strategy is just as important as every other aspect of planning a successful business.
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    • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
      Originally Posted by Russell Barnstein View Post

      I'll never understand why people consider being a #1 or #2 writer at EZA special. It's a PAID position, people. The ONLY thing that makes Mize #1 on EZA is the QUANTITY of his articles. Not the quality, the conversions, clicks or any other figure. He has the most; that makes him number one and nothing else. End of story and excuse me for yawning.
      Agreed.

      Originally Posted by Russell Barnstein View Post

      He only wrote the first 1,500 articles, then he paid for every article thereafter. (Plenty of excellent writers here on the WF have written far more articles than Sean wrote himself, and I'd wager that some of them are in this very thread and were at least as successful as Sean. Maybe more so, and they probably spent far less money.) Now don't start attacking me because I'm not impressed by this. All I am saying is that being number one on EZA is a result of VOLUME only.
      Agreed!

      Originally Posted by Russell Barnstein View Post

      ... I was pretty surprised to discover that Mize is LITERALLY teaching the following:

      1.) Good writers should be writing at least 5 and preferably 10 500 word articles per hour

      2.) The only source you'll ever need for research for your articles is EzineArticles.

      Seriously?

      Why any writer worth his/her salt would ever heed this advice I certainly can't understand.
      Definitely, 100%, unreservedly agreed!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author John Yeoman
        There is no way that a writer can type - let alone compose - even five x 500 word readable articles per hour. Twice that number is absurd. One's fingers fall off. Trust me.

        I manage just two x 600 word articles per day, including spinning to 80% uniqueness. Not having SEONukeX - or $1500 per annum to rent it - I submit them manually to content hubs, social bookmarking sites, etc manually. That's another day gone. Is that unusual - or do I just think s l o w? :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Damani Tabor
      Maybe he is a victim of he Google article marketing atomic explosion.
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    • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
      Originally Posted by Russell Barnstein View Post

      I'll never understand why people consider being a #1 or #2 writer at EZA special. It's a PAID position, people. The ONLY thing that makes Mize #1 on EZA is the QUANTITY of his articles. Not the quality, the conversions, clicks or any other figure. He has the most; that makes him number one and nothing else. End of story and excuse me for yawning.

      He only wrote the first 1,500 articles, then he paid for every article thereafter. (Plenty of excellent writers here on the WF have written far more articles than Sean wrote himself, and I'd wager that some of them are in this very thread and were at least as successful as Sean. Maybe more so, and they probably spent far less money.) Now don't start attacking me because I'm not impressed by this. All I am saying is that being number one on EZA is a result of VOLUME only.

      If you want to be impressed by how much money he's spent on articles or on how effective of a manager he is, then I agree and he definitely deserves props for that.

      But I've suspected something has been up for a while. The guy is mucking around here in the WF selling a $7 WSO. For a guy like Mize that's equivalent to scrounging for nickels.

      I bought the WSO just to check it out and attempt to understand why the Mighty Mize is selling a $7 WSO. It came with some free PDF bonuses. While I haven't listened to the audio yet, I was pretty surprised to discover that Mize is LITERALLY teaching the following:

      1.) Good writers should be writing at least 5 and preferably 10 500 word articles per hour

      2.) The only source you'll ever need for research for your articles is EzineArticles.

      Seriously?


      Why any writer worth his/her salt would ever heed this advice I certainly can't understand.

      I know, you're all going to tell me that he's made "millions" and so on, so whatever he does is successful and is clearly a method that works. That's great and I'm not denying that. I'm just saying that based on what I'm seeing, things probably aren't going well for Mize.

      Of course, he could just be implementing his exit strategy as others have stated in this post. I tend to doubt that but it's possible.

      And by the way; who develops successful business plans without an exit strategy? Ever applied for a business loan before? An exit strategy is a required component of the business plan that you submit with your application.

      In my mind the exit strategy is just as important as every other aspect of planning a successful business.
      Wow, that's some seriously STUPID advice, imo. Are you serious? He really says 5-10 500 word articles PER HOUR? Even per day 10 high quality articles would be a STRETCH. 2500-5000 words per hour? That's churning out articles at 40-80wpm! LOL, ya right. Well, if you want complete junk, yes that can be done. But quality, absolutely no way.
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  • Profile picture of the author donhx
    Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

    I was shocked.

    For anyone who has been living under a rock for the past 5 years, Sean Mize is the top eZineArticle author with over 25,000 of his articles submitted there. He uses the articles to drive traffic to his squeeze pages and build his list. He then sells products and his high-end coaching programs.

    Just a few minutes ago I get an email from him linking to an audio file where he explains that he is selling his complete business : All of his products, all of his training courses, all of his mP3 files, squeeze pages and sales pages. His products retail from $10 to $5,000. He explains it all in the audio as well as why he is doing this.

    I'm sure many of you are on his list. Just curious--what's your take on this? He averages over 250k a year with this business. Hard to imagine him selling. If you got the audio file, what do you think about his offer?

    I was shocked but I'll have to wait a bit and see what happens with it.

    --Mike

    If you have been a serious follower of Sean for the last few years, you'll realize he sends out "selling my business" emails once or twice a year. He's not actually selling his business. It's more like a franchaise thing I'd say.

    Sean is more into selling a coaching program these days rather than his old article writing thing, though he remains very active in doing and promoting artilce writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kirk Ward
    I don't know if this was covered or not. I stopped reading halfway down.

    I'm on his list and have gotten some variation of this offer continually for more than a year, possibly two. Each time the offer is a bigger and bigger version, and all lead to some coaching package.

    I bought one of the packages (at $497) because I wanted it as a guide for something I was developing in my niche. I think he has a good model, but I'm not sure it is not something you can't pick up here, if you wait and listen.

    So, from what I've been able to discern, Sean "selling his business" is a euphemism for selling PLR rights.

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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    There is no way that a writer can type - let alone compose - even five x 500 word readable articles per hour. Twice that number is absurd. One's fingers fall off. Trust me.
    I've read some people saying they could write 10 in an hour; however, I am assuming that is on a niche they know really well. If you need to speed up your writing, I recommend Jason's Fladien's report, "How to Write an Article in 7 minutes." It used to be available as a WSO, I think it still is.

    Before I read it, it would take me 45 minutes to write an article, now I can do it in 12. I'm sure you're going to go back on "quality," just because you take more time on something, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's better.

    If you are a slow typist and that is the reason it takes you longer, either work on your speed or get Dragon Naturally speaking.

    I don't know if I could sustain writing that many articles per hour for 8 hours a day; however, I'm not an article writer for a living. It's just part of what I do. What I don't choose to outsource, I sit down and write, get it over with, and move on to something else.


    I manage just two x 600 word articles per day, including spinning to 80% uniqueness. Not having SEONukeX - or $1500 per annum to rent it - I submit them manually to content hubs, social bookmarking sites, etc manually. That's another day gone. Is that unusual - or do I just think s l o w?
    What is unusual is that you're still doing it all manually. Sick Submitter is $12.99 per month and submits to bookmarking, article sites, and blogs, plus some.

    You missed the one time fee for SEO Link Robot, but I think you can still get the discounted monthly price for $40.

    There are some discount codes for Article Marketing Robot floating around.

    I think when you are learning the ropes doing it all manually is actually a good thing, but once you have your system down, find a way to automate it as fast as possible.

    What is your time worth? If you think you can't afford it, it would be better to work a couple weekends a month at McDonalds to pay for your automation tools and you would still be getting more IM work done with less time.

    Or buy some fiverr gigs. Spending all that time on drudge work is crazy.
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