Can A Beginner Really Make Money Online

32 replies
I wrote something recently and shared it with some others -- all about "Can a beginner really make money online" -- and I thought that the good fold here at Warrior Forum may also find this helpful".

Can a beginner really make money online - I'm sure it's crossed your mind once or twice, if not more - as it's a frequently asked question for anyone looking to start their first online business...

...And the answer is "YES!!" it is possible for a beginner to make money online.

But, in any business, there are a certain number of new skills one must learn first. And contrary to popular belief, an online business is not a get rich quick business per say. ( It's not quick - It's not easy - but it's learnable ) and Although you can amass a large fortune in a very short amount of time, it's still a real life business that needs to be treated as one.

So for those of you that think you can just start an online business and do nothing at all but sit back and collect cash - your very wrong.

There is a process you must follow in order to be successful online...

...that process is as follows:

Website -> Traffic -> Free Gift -> Build your List -> Promote to your List -> $$$$

Below is a list of new skills you will need to learn in order to succeed in the online world.
  • The correct mindset
  • Simple web skills
  • How to create a webpage
  • How to upload your webpage
  • Auto responders
  • How to generate traffic
The great thing about this is - all these skill are learnable and very easy to attain.

I'm going to teach them all to you step-by-step...

let's begin with the first one:

The correct mindset
: Understand that starting an online business will take "TIME."

It's not something you do overnight - And like I said before, it's not a get rich quick business either.

It's my understanding that for some reason the internet attracts hundreds if not thousands of opportunity seekers looking to make a fast buck. It's just not the case and anyone telling you this is full of it.
My advise to you would be run as fast as you can away from this person.

Note
- 97% of people fail online because they don't understand what they teach - The majority of people online will drive traffic to a sales page and that's it. Upon getting no sales they quit.

So with that being said, have a great and positive mental attitude towards learning something new and exciting and be ready to implement the correct strategies for making money online.

Simple web Skills
: There's a couple of skills you must learn first before you can begin to make money online as well as a couple of tools you need to add to your tool box. All easy to learn and if implemented correctly your definitely going to be successful and make money online.

With any business, their will be some expenses (tools). Luckily for us, we only need to worry about 3 expenses for now:
  • Domain name
  • Hosting account
  • Auto responder
...And that's it...
...Most of the money you make online will come from your LIST!
 
How to create a webpage: In order to get started with your online business you only need to have a one page website or in other words a SQUEEZE PAGE or LANDING PAGE.


This is perhaps one of the easiest things to do and can actually be accomplished in one day, but for some reason people tend to get frightened over it.

I understand your not a techie type of guy or girl...

...But ill have you know that when I first started my very first online business, I knew absolutely nothing... Literally!! My background was in entertainment and real-estate so you can see, I too was a complete newbie to the online world and I still am..

...But like I said before these are simple learnable skills that anyone can learn even your children.

Like the saying goes: "If I Can Do It, Anyone Can Do It."

How to upload your webpage
: In order for you to get started online you also need to upload your one page website into your hosting account.

I myself use Hostgator and I highly recommend you try it as well. It's very user friendly and it makes the whole uploading process a synch.

Need Hosting - hostgator.com


Auto responders
: an auto responder is your business. This is how you will build your list. Once you build your list you'll be able to market related products to your list...

...This is how you make money online.

If you haven't yet got an auto responder and you do need one - Let me recommend aweber. I myself use aweber - It's very user friendly - easy to set up video tutorials - great immediate online help and support if you have any questions.

Need an auto responder - aweber.com


How to generate traffic
: Last but not least, once you have tested your machine, fine tuned it, and it's ready to run you need to be able to drive traffic to your site.

Traffic is going to be the life blood of your business. This will determine if you'll make money online or not. - And just like building your first website - building traffic is also a skill you must learn.

The great thing about having your squeeze page done is, it's only work you have to do once.

Now all you have to do is focus on getting traffic to your website and converting that traffic.

Again this is not a how to, it's just an explanation of the in's and out's and what to expect when considering starting a web business.

Good Luck...

-Mauricio ( MOE )
#beginner #make #money #online #web business
  • Profile picture of the author GardenerUK
    I'm just starting out, thank you for this. I hope to make money soon enough as well...
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630195].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author brendanfinn
    A lot of what you said is totally incorrect.

    There are several things that you should remove from your post. I feel bad about saying this, and that's why I'm not going to completely tear your post apart. I honestly mean that.

    However, I really don't like it when people mislead others, or lie to them. It's hard to get good traction when you are new to this, no one needs to make it even harder.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630206].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
      Originally Posted by brendanfinn View Post

      A lot of what you said is totally incorrect.

      There are several things that you should remove from your post. I feel bad about saying this, and that's why I'm not going to completely tear your post apart. I honestly mean that.

      However, I really don't like it when people mislead others, or lie to them. It's hard to get good traction when you are new to this, no one needs to make it even harder.
      What in the world are you talking about? The guide the OP posted is sound.

      Find a problem, create a solution, offer that solution to those looking to desperately solve the problem and you will make sales.

      He simply outlined the process of building a list to promote that solution to. Money is in the list! It always has been and always will be. Even Amazon has lists that they email (sometimes daily) to promote products and (gasp!) make sales from.

      How did you get that he was misleading people from this?
      Signature
      You're going to fail. If you're afraid of failure then you do not belong in the Internet Marketing Business. Period.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630355].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

        What in the world are you talking about? The guide the OP posted is sound.

        Find a problem, create a solution, offer that solution to those looking to desperately solve the problem and you will make sales.

        He simply outlined the process of building a list to promote that solution to. Money is in the list! It always has been and always will be. Even Amazon has lists that they email (sometimes daily) to promote products and (gasp!) make sales from.

        How did you get that he was misleading people from this?
        I wish he'd elaborate more on what he thought was "incorrect"...lol! The OP has posted a time-tested and long term, feasible approach to IM (listbuilding) that will work for just about anyone.

        It is certainly not fast or easy to get this going, at least initially, but the sooner newbies implement this type of an approach, the faster they'll be able to build a real business on the internet.
        Signature
        >>> Features Jason Fladlien, John S. Rhodes, Justin Brooke, Sean I. Mitchell, Reed Floren and Brad Gosse! <<<
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630486].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author brendanfinn
          Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

          What in the world are you talking about?
          ...
          How did you get that he was misleading people from this?
          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          I wish he'd elaborate more on what he thought was "incorrect"...
          Ok then, I will.

          There is a process you must follow in order to be successful online...
          ...that process is as follows:
          Website -> Traffic -> Free Gift -> Build your List -> Promote to your List -> $$$$
          Either of you guys have the guts to back that up? I'm living proof that it's wrong. After hearing stuff like this, though, I spent about a year doing this sort of method anyway. I was still a noob. Giving free things away can work, but you end up with a list full of "freebie seekers". To say that you "must follow" (OP's words) this is more than misleading. It's a lie.

          Below is a list of new skills you will need to learn in order to succeed in the online world.
          The correct mindset
          Simple web skills
          How to create a webpage
          How to upload your webpage
          Auto responders
          How to generate traffic
          Look, if you have absolutely no money to spend, and you are a tech savvy person, then these skills may be worth your while to know. I can remember some of the guys that I learned from, though, that didn't know how to do these things, and yet they made 7-8 figures per year. These are very low skill activities that can be outsourced really cheap. With the exception of generating traffic, I don't even do these myself anymore, except on occasion.

          It's my understanding that for some reason the internet attracts hundreds if not thousands of opportunity seekers looking to make a fast buck.
          ???

          looking to make a fast buck. It's just not the case and anyone telling you this is full of it.
          My advise to you would be run as fast as you can away from this person.
          Absolutely wrong. Not only is it possible to make a quick buck, it's actually the basis of a lot of methods I recommend for beginners. Making money right away boosts a persons confidence, teaches them a lot, and most importantly, it greatly increases the likelihood that they will persist in earning a lifestyle sustaining income online. I was in the middle of starting another business when I started trying to make money online. If I hadn't been successful immediately, I would have quit and gone the other route. Don't tell me it's "hard to do" or "rare", either. It's only unlikely for those who spend more time reading forums than they do working.

          Note - 97% of people fail online because they don't understand what they teach - The majority of people online will drive traffic to a sales page and that’s it. Upon getting no sales they quit.
          I'd like to see a source for this. And who is "they"?


          At this point, I'm only half way through his post.

          It's the irony that really kills me. This guy posts a bunch of crummy info about other people giving crummy info. And to make things worse, people come in here and praise it like it's actually going to do somebody some good.

          Doesn't anyone else see this? This circle jerk garbage is exactly why the members of this forum are constantly ridiculed.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630786].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
            Originally Posted by brendanfinn View Post

            Either of you guys have the guts to back that up? I'm living proof that it's wrong. After hearing stuff like this, though, I spent about a year doing this sort of method anyway. I was still a noob. Giving free things away can work, but you end up with a list full of "freebie seekers". To say that you "must follow" (OP's words) this is more than misleading. It's a lie.
            So essentially you are claiming that list-building is a lie? I have more than enough guts to stand up for the process of list building. Why? Because it works.

            Just because YOU personally haven't seen success with something, does NOT mean something is broken or doesn't work.

            It depends entirely on the niche, product or service on whether you should give away something for free. I run a list for a women's fashion niche where I give away coupon codes for the product the list is interested in. How do I make money? Every link is an aff link.

            I'm in the process of trying to start selling PLR articles in limited quantities. When I begin I plan on giving out ten articles for FREE! Why? Because I want people to see my work and be on my list.

            That way when I start offering my limited quantity of PLR I have a list of "interested buyers."

            To say that the method of list-building outlined in this thread is misleading is asinine to say the least.

            Originally Posted by brendanfinn View Post

            Look, if you have absolutely no money to spend, and you are a tech savvy person, then these skills may be worth your while to know. I can remember some of the guys that I learned from, though, that didn't know how to do these things, and yet they made 7-8 figures per year. These are very low skill activities that can be outsourced really cheap. With the exception of generating traffic, I don't even do these myself anymore, except on occasion.
            How many "beginners" have enough money to outsource the basics? Even if you do have the money to outsource how are you going to know exactly what you need and that what you received was worth what you paid?

            Knowledge is a wonderful thing. It doesn't matter if they are low-skill activities, they are still crucial to the aspects of building a BUSINESS online.

            Originally Posted by brendanfinn View Post

            Absolutely wrong. Not only is it possible to make a quick buck, it's actually the basis of a lot of methods I recommend for beginners. Making money right away boosts a persons confidence, teaches them a lot, and most importantly, it greatly increases the likelihood that they will persist in earning a lifestyle sustaining income online. I was in the middle of starting another business when I started trying to make money online. If I hadn't been successful immediately, I would have quit and gone the other route. Don't tell me it's "hard to do" or "rare", either. It's only unlikely for those who spend more time reading forums than they do working.
            So wait, we need to "condition" beginners to thinking that they will find immediate success online? Are you serious? Success is not a given right. Success does not come easy. Success comes to those who want it and are willing to work for it, or are able to pay someone else to work for it and profit from that.

            I like how you call this thread misleading, yet every "quick buck" method out there leaves much to be desired from a beginners stand point.

            Originally Posted by brendanfinn View Post

            It's the irony that really kills me. This guy posts a bunch of crummy info about other people giving crummy info. And to make things worse, people come in here and praise it like it's actually going to do somebody some good.
            As I just outlined, the OP did offer sound advice. Was it the best? I don't know, what does "the best" even mean? Does it work? Your damn straight it does.

            Originally Posted by brendanfinn View Post

            Doesn't anyone else see this? This circle jerk garbage is exactly why the members of this forum are constantly ridiculed.
            In my opinion this is one of the best forums on the internet, especially for those who want to learn how to start generating income online. To take the cynic route is not going to help you here... at all.
            Signature
            You're going to fail. If you're afraid of failure then you do not belong in the Internet Marketing Business. Period.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3632672].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author paulie888
              Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post



              So wait, we need to "condition" beginners to thinking that they will find immediate success online? Are you serious? Success is not a given right. Success does not come easy. Success comes to those who want it and are willing to work for it, or are able to pay someone else to work for it and profit from that.

              I like how you call this thread misleading, yet every "quick buck" method out there leaves much to be desired from a beginners stand point.
              It is this sad "fast buck" mentality that leaves beginners floundering about, searching for the next greatest thing that will make them money overnight.

              Making money online, contrary to what Brendan may believe, requires some time, patience and dedication, at least initially. Newbies have been bamboozled by some of the gurus into believing that they can generate pushbutton riches overnight - while this may be true once you have set everything up and built a list, it's just not possible when you're a rank newbie!

              The very thing that Brendan is railing against (consistent listbuilding using established techniques that we all know work) is what will eventually allow you to generate near-pushbutton riches....how ironic!
              Signature
              >>> Features Jason Fladlien, John S. Rhodes, Justin Brooke, Sean I. Mitchell, Reed Floren and Brad Gosse! <<<
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3636280].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author brendanfinn
              Are you making yourself feel good, BloggingPro? You like fabricating arguments to make yourself look smart?

              So essentially you are claiming that list-building is a lie?
              Please quote my post and show me where I said this. I never said there is something wrong with list-building. I did point out a flaw in the stated method, and I also stated that one of his sentences is a lie. I stand by what I said. Let's hear your rebuttal.
              Just because YOU personally haven't seen success with something, does NOT mean something is broken or doesn't work.
              Tell me where you got this from.
              I have had success with building lists. I do continue to build lists, and use autoresponders too. I even use the one the OP recommended. I never recommended that anyone should not build a list.
              To say that the method of list-building outlined in this thread is misleading is asinine to say the least.
              Quote my post, and show me where the hell you get this crap. I used several examples to make it extremely clear what I was calling misleading.
              It doesn't matter if they are low-skill activities, they are still crucial to the aspects of building a BUSINESS online.
              I completely disagree with the first part of that statement on it's own. However, you finished that sentence with something that is, again, not something I commented on. I won't undermine the importance of web pages, or mindset. I will stand by my claim that it's not necessary that a person acquire all of these basic skills themselves. Is it a good path for some people? Sure. Does one "need" to learn these in order to be successful? Absolutely not, but that's what the OP said.
              So wait, we need to "condition" beginners to thinking that they will find immediate success online? Are you serious?
              Come on now, this is a joke. I know you can see the difference between what I said and what you are saying here.
              Success is not a given right. Success does not come easy. Success comes to those who want it and are willing to work for it, or are able to pay someone else to work for it and profit from that.
              Good point. I very clearly stated that success IS a right, and that it's really easy, too. Oh, wait... I didn't say these things either.
              I like how you call this thread misleading, yet every "quick buck" method out there leaves much to be desired from a beginners stand point.
              You're telling me that there are no methods out there that a beginner can follow to make money very quickly? You're very wrong. Hell, I did it myself.
              As I just outlined, the OP did offer sound advice. Was it the best? I don't know, what does "the best" even mean? Does it work? Your damn straight it does.
              If he mentioned these methods and skills as a single possible route that one could follow to potential success, then I wouldn't disagree with you. The wording of the post does not give this message, though, which is why I say it's misleading. And it's more than misleading, some of it is factually incorrect.
              In my opinion this is one of the best forums on the internet, especially for those who want to learn how to start generating income online. To take the cynic route is not going to help you here... at all.
              I intervened in a thread directed at beginners, which misleads and lies to these beginners, in an attempt to save them from trusting this garbage. You call this cynical? See this link.

              Look, I was was going to insult your intelligence and suggest that you take a reading class... To be honest, though, I don't believe that you are dumb enough to misunderstand my post to this extreme degree. You had a stand that you wanted to take, which was against me, so you made an attempt to justify it. That much is fairly clear. Just cut it out. That's not helpful to anyone.

              You didn't disagree with the things that I actually said because couldn't do it rationally. Stop pretending.
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3636977].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Lorco52
            OK, I'm a newbie here and from what I see, he is trying to help. If it was so easy for you why don't you share your method with us.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3635880].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author efwebm
              "Traffic" is not a method. Setting up a site is about 5% of the battle. If your method doesn't explain HOW to generate traffic, it's just going to lead to more disillusioned newbies.
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3636242].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author bruceimer
    Yes, Mauricio gives a very useful blueprint for beginners who want to make money online. After the squeeze page is set up, focus all your attention on traffic generation. Traffic, traffic, traffic! And then you will see money rolls in.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630245].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author haymanpl
      In started making a living from blogging in my first 6 months and haven't looked back

      I foucs on writing content thats helful and solves problems that i have faced myself everyday.

      I write many How To Posts using actionable steps to get an immediate result

      All my content is my own personal authentic experience and i don't get involved in all the hype

      WordPress is what i focus on and everything to do with wordpress including seo
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630256].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author miahmiah
      Some sound advice
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630264].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author TonyG23
    Yes any beginner can make money online. You just need to take the time to research about your niche and make a strategy and follow through.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630255].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Claude7
    Great post thanks and I completely agree with your simple steps.
    Thats exactly how I sold my first kissing frogz ebook around 5 years ago
    after hearing Mark Anastasi talking at a seminar ....
    Signature
    Learn why you internet business is not making any sales and what you can do to change it.
    www.spiritofsales.net
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630336].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author corsleymaxwell
    Thank you for the idea. Money is not for the oldies only but it is for everybody who has the idea on how to make it.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630474].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author RyanHaus
      Focusing on ONE thing at a time is imperative. Too many beginners get "Information Overload" and get discouraged. Making money online is a business. Their is no magic wand. Their is no special software where you can just put your feet up and watch your bank account grow.

      Those "gurus" prey on the beginner.

      Bottom line. If it sounds too good to be true: Guess what...you already know the answer. Unfortunately many people like to learn the hard way and purchase with emotion.

      However, if you want it bad enough, you will find what you are looking for. But of course, it requires W-O-R-K
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630490].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author terrelsmith13
        Nice forum title. It was interesting to get involvement on this thread because this is also the same question I would like to ask. Instead, I will share my idea in regards to this issue.

        Making money online is not an overnight success. Can a beginner really make money online? I think so. Every person behind every success always starts from being a beginner. Great things starts from small beginning.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630522].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Piero
        Originally Posted by RyanHaus View Post

        Focusing on ONE thing at a time is imperative. Too many beginners get "Information Overload" and get discouraged. Making money online is a business. Their is no magic wand. Their is no special software where you can just put your feet up and watch your bank account grow.

        Those "gurus" prey on the beginner.

        Bottom line. If it sounds too good to be true: Guess what...you already know the answer. Unfortunately many people like to learn the hard way and purchase with emotion.

        However, if you want it bad enough, you will find what you are looking for. But of course, it requires W-O-R-K
        This is SO TOTALLY true! Difficulty for beginners is that they are suddenly overwhelmed with an enormous amount of info...and the difficulty lies not only in sorting the good from the bad (and there is enough of that around! LOL) but also in deciding on and focusing on a manageable/single good method.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3636324].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author flavio2it
    If you have the needed patience and consistency, you will make money with anything even if you did not want to.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3630663].message }}
  • I appreciate the clean cut step by step flow of your instructions. Its important to understand big picture and the steps that you must take to get there, its a big job, but when you can get it done, there is nothing more rewarding.

    For help wit your squeeze pages you can check out our free software.
    Signature
    Trying to set up a website?
    visit www.sellingin60minutes.com to get access to our free guide to get your e-commerce site up and ready to make sales in under an hour.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3633020].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Shakd
    Great starter thread! Cheers
    Signature

    New Internet Marketer that has an entry level service for back linking. Check out the services I offer to get quality targeted website traffic. 1. Spin your Article 2. Submit through UAW 3. Submit to Blog-blueprint

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3633529].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Scott Skinner
    Bravo Mr. Lopez!! You have just given away a solid business plan that works and many "so called" gurus charge obscene amounts of money for.

    Pay attention folks, it really is this easy!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3634017].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author spennyc
    Good advice - yes a beginner with the right tools can start making money right away online.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3634592].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author zena lour
    yesss..

    a beginner can make money online but not a lot though.

    the potential is there if you work hard at it and not get discouraged.



    zena
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3634683].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Davy44
    Great post! I totally agree with you that a beginner can still make money online and be successful. However, it is harder now and takes longer to achieve success now than ever.

    New ideas are harder to come by now than a few years ago. As a result, more and more people are crowding every niche you can think of. So, the competition is stiffer, and it is no wonder success is harder now.

    But, it is not all doom and gloom. If you work hard and study your niche and invest some time and resources in IM, there is a good chance you will get to where you need to be.
    Signature
    PAYDAY LOANS- cash on demand!
    PAYDAY LENDERS You can trust!
    CHECK LOANS for unexpected expenses
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3634818].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Bish
    Good OP, simple blueprint, should be very helpful for many just getting started.
    Fail to see how your post is incorrect as mentioned by 'Brendanfinn'?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3636568].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author MarketItAll
    Not to mention that everyone is a beginner at one point or another - and there are PLENTY of people not only making money online but making a living - and a good living.
    Signature
    $1,500,000 in 14 months - OMG Machines ---> I went from $0 to $1,000,000 in under 9 MONTHS.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3636596].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    You are making it sound so easy. LOL. But for real beginners things like "autoresponder" or even "landing pages" can be quite over whelming. However nothing is impossible though. List building is stillthe fool-proof way to start making profits.

    Andrea
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3636931].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Ruby Rynne
    You can get started without any of these things (apart from the mindset). There are options which don't require you to buy a domain, hosting, autoresponder, etc (you can get them all for free), which provide a high-converting product with all the sales materials, hosted for you, AND build your list for you AND give you 100% commissions on what you sell.

    It doesn't make you instantly rich, but you can start earning within a couple of hours with a good system, and it's a great place to start.
    Signature
    SupportPal - the Internet Marketer's Secret Weapon
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3637273].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author davidfstyles
    There's just so much for a newbie to take in when starting out.

    When I started out in 2003, I wish someone told me the following formula and drummed it into my head:

    "Traffic x Conversion = Success" Full-stop.

    If you continually increase your traffic and continually improve your conversion rate then you will have a successful IM business. Obviously there is a whole world around traffic and a whole other world around conversion... but if I were starting out again I'd recommend to keep coming back to this basic formula.

    Personally, my best sources of traffic come from AdWords and SEO.

    And the highest converting sales funnel I've found that works is:
    Squeeze Page -> Sales Letter -> Upsells/cross-sells. Then multiple offers and product launches to the list.

    I've also found split testing and multi-variate testing along each stage of the sales funnel is critical to increase the conversion rate.

    Hope that helps.

    David.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3646284].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author paologiannone
    Of course you can. all you need is dedication, will to learn and time. don't get depressed if you don't make money in your first year. stick to whatever opportunity you want to promote and the results will come.

    http://www.acmetelphoneleads.net
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3721406].message }}

Trending Topics