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I don't get it.

Why would anyone waste their time on something like this?

Is there a particular point they are trying to make other than
hopefully getting an outrageous enough response from some
of these people to make them look foolish after coming across
as genuinely seeking their advice?

Maybe i'm missing something.

The only good thing I see coming out of this is the amount of
leads "Casey" will get bc of her/his exploitation of our curiosities.

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MontelloMarketing

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jasondinner

I don't get it.

Why would anyone waste their time on something like this?

Is there a particular point they are trying to make other than
hopefully getting an outrageous enough response from some
of these people to make them look foolish after coming across
as genuinely seeking their advice?

Maybe i'm missing something.

The only good thing I see coming out of this is the amount of
leads "Casey" will get bc of her/his exploitation of our curiosities.

Jason,

Unless there's something deeper here that I'm missing I think it's just a matter of having a little fun in an industry that can take itself a little too seriously from time to time.

I like it.

Speaking of wasting time, it reminds me of

Amazon.com: The Timewaster Letters...

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jasondinner

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing

Jason,

Unless there's something deeper here that I'm missing I think it's just a matter of having a little fun in an industry that can take itself a little too seriously from time to time.

I like it.

Speaking of wasting time, it reminds me of Amazon.com: The Timewaster Letters (9781843171690): Robin Cooper: Books

Now THAT looks like something worth the waste of my time

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Shannon Herod

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing

Jason,

Unless there's something deeper here that I'm missing I think it's just a matter of having a little fun in an industry that can take itself a little too seriously from time to time.

I like it.

Speaking of wasting time, it reminds me of Amazon.com: The Timewaster Letters (9781843171690): Robin Cooper: Books

I agree. I think it is an attempt at humor rather than an attempt at bashing. It was fun reading :-)

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Steven Carl Kelly

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing

Jason,

Unless there's something deeper here that I'm missing I think it's just a matter of having a little fun in an industry that can take itself a little too seriously from time to time.

I like it.

Speaking of wasting time, it reminds me of Amazon.com: The Timewaster Letters (9781843171690): Robin Cooper: Books

Seems like a ripoff of the original "letters" book from the 1970's (I had a copy of the book as a teenager), "The Lazlo Letters" which was written by Don Novello (known most famously for his character Father Guido Sarducci on TV's Saturday Night Live).

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Steven Fullman 13 years ago

Ole Cuzin' Andy, eh?

Organizes "huge launches" -- then creates a 'hilarious' fake opt in dissing "huge launches"...all as part of his next "huge launch".

Hyuk. Clever. My sides, please someone stop 'em splitting.
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EvcRo

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jasondinner

I don't get it.

Why would anyone waste their time on something like this?

Is there a particular point they are trying to make other than
hopefully getting an outrageous enough response from some
of these people to make them look foolish after coming across
as genuinely seeking their advice?

Maybe i'm missing something.

The only good thing I see coming out of this is the amount of
leads "Casey" will get bc of her/his exploitation of our curiosities.

This was one of the few that almost made me put my "guru list" email address in

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Victor Edson

13 years ago

This is a brilliant out of the box way to get opt ins.

Notice how people are just spreading this around...

Link Bait at it's finest.

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Hans Klein

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Victor Edson

This is a brilliant out of the box way to get opt ins.

Notice how people are just spreading this around...

Link Bait at it's finest.

Yep.... Check-out this as well... a YouTube trailer to promote the download as a tie-in for April Fool's day:

YouTube - "The Moron Letters"... Coming April...

Definitely some "out of the box" marketing going on here.

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bobsilber

13 years ago

At the bottom of the page:
Copyright © 2011 Casey Porter-Pierce, Pseudonym. All Rights Reserved.
Email: Casey.PorterPierce@Consultant.com

Although themoronletters.com is privacy protected, Consultant.com is registered to:
World Media Group, LLC
ATTN Domain Inquiries
90 Washington Valley Rd., #1128
Bedminster, NJ 07921

If you Google World Media Group, LLC ...

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Michael Shook

13 years ago

Originally Posted by bobsilber

At the bottom of the page:
Copyright © 2011 Casey Porter-Pierce, Pseudonym. All Rights Reserved.
Email: Casey.PorterPierce@Consultant.com

Although themoronletters.com is privacy protected, Consultant.com is registered to:
World Media Group, LLC
ATTN Domain Inquiries
90 Washington Valley Rd., #1128
Bedminster, NJ 07921

If you Google World Media Group, LLC ...

Interesting. I had always thought that @ consultant dot com was one of those vanity email addresses you could get from mail dot com.

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Linda_C 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ross Bowring

Notice how the countdown is going up.

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Hahahha. That's priceless.

Pretty brilliant way to build a list. Wonder how many me-toos this will spawn.
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fullmatrix

13 years ago

They are building list for sure, it wouldn't be a surprise if they follow up with anti-guru type of campaign to promote some products.

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MontelloMarketing

13 years ago

No doubt about the list building but I'm not entirely sure this was anti-guru.

If you notice... there's a lot of guru promotion in it. Which brings me back to the OP saying maybe this was guru produced...

Hmmmm... curiouser and curiouser...

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jasondinner

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing

No doubt about the list building but I'm not entirely sure this was anti-guru.

If you notice... there's a lot of guru promotion in it. Which brings me back to the OP saying maybe this was guru produced...

Hmmmm... curiouser and curiouser...

The plot thickens..... MUAHAHAHAHAHAA

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Banned 13 years ago

i dont see anything but a blank PDF...maybe they want to me and other members to add them to spam folder. I don't got time to BS with this,

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Ross Bowring

13 years ago

Originally Posted by janok

i dont see anything but a blank PDF...maybe they want to me and other members to add them to spam folder. I don't got time to BS with this,

Not for me... the PDF I downloaded featured words, a photo of a kitty, and much more...

--- Ross

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Michael Shook

13 years ago

It's hard to say that if Gary Halbert were alive, if he would think these contained the quality of thinking that was in the original letters.

The Boron Letters are a lot better IMO, but I like real stuff about direct response, and when he was mailing the print newsletter every month I could hardly wait to read it.

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MontelloMarketing

13 years ago

LOL... Um, michael... you are kidding, right?

The Boron letters were what they were... genius copywriting for the ages.

The Moron letters are a prank and nothing more.

You missing this point, mike? You can't compare the two.

Originally Posted by JMichaelZ

It's hard to say that if Gary Halbert were alive, if he would think these contained the quality of thinking that was in the original letters.

The Boron Letters are a lot better IMO, but I like real stuff about direct response, and when he was mailing the print newsletter every month I could hardly wait to read it.

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Michael Shook

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing

LOL... Um, michael... you are kidding, right?

The Boron letters were what they were... genius copywriting for the ages.

The Moron letters are a prank and nothing more.

You missing this point, mike? You can't compare the two.

It is possible I am missing the point, that happens sometimes. Can I compare them as attention getting copywriting devices, sure. But maybe I am reading more into it than was intended. That happens sometimes, too.

That they could have called this anything at all, but chose "The Moron Letters" makes me suspect that someone would like to imply that there is a comparison. Or that the graphics are tear sheets, that makes me think there might be something to the comparison too. Or the headline, which I think only rates a 7.5 or 8 on the Halbert scale, but is definitely in the Halbert range (from what I remember, anyway).

As far as a prank goes, maybe. I am kind of leaning towards, it being more than that, but we'll see before long I would imagine.

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Michael,

It's hard to say that if Gary Halbert were alive

If Gary had replied to one of these, I suspect it would have made for much more entertaining reading. Anyone remember his reply to Joe Kumar's pseudonymous emails? "Telegrapher's touch" software indeed.

Paul

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Michael Shook

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Michael,If Gary had replied to one of these, I suspect it would have made for much more entertaining reading. Anyone remember his reply to Joe Kumar's pseudonymous emails? "Telegrapher's touch" software indeed.

Paul

True enough for sure. I had to go to the post office where I lived then to get the newsletters, I owuld open them right there in the lobby. They were great and I learned a lot from them.

I was fortunate enough to see Gary in one of his last appearances at Ed and Frank's undies seminar in San Diego, where Jason Moffat won that award. Other than that I only talked with him once on the phone over something I had written.

I waited at the mailbox for the next issue from south of Jewfish Creek though and I learned a lot about copywriting from him. One time I wrote a last minute fundraising letter once for the local libertarians using my own version of what I had learned from Gary. Those folks had never seen anything like it.

It was an interesting experience to say the least.

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MontelloMarketing 13 years ago

Looks like Casey finally figured out the banner ad thing.
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Banned 13 years ago

it's easy... they attract and collect emails with aweber.

and the letters are not even funny :/

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lchiles

13 years ago

I think it's all in good fun. Plus you really get a behind-the-looking-glass jaunt into who is really helpful (depends on the message that they got too).

Yeah cannot compare boron vs. moron. Two totally different things. Obviously.

It's a play on them, for sure. Very cool.

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Looking forward to reading this. Thanks for the share.
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Hans Klein

13 years ago

This really is nothing like the Boron letters.

It's more like the written version of "Prank calls" to the gurus.

What's more amazing to me is how nice some of gurus are, despite how crazy Casey gets. A question I have is how Casey got the email addresses of the gurus in the first place... and got them to actually respond?

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MontelloMarketing 13 years ago

And it looks like the moronletters banner ad is pointing to a dead link! Someone should get on that!

And hans... I find it funny you're still calling Casey by name. Haven't we all pretty much figured out there is no Casey?
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- Hans Klein 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing
  
  And hans... I find it funny you're still calling Casey by name. Haven't we all pretty much figured out there is no Casey?
  
  What do you mean? Yeah, it's probably a pseudonym, but how do we know for sure she's not a real marketer?
  
  Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing
  
  And it looks like the moronletters banner ad is pointing to a dead link! Someone should get on that!
  
  Yep... I noticed that LOL. Truly fitting that the creator of The Moron Letters would make a moron mistake by putting in the wrong URL.
  
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  Okay... I'm starting to think we've found Casey... and she's a man baby!
  
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  That was silly but it got an email out of me, purpose served? Lol...
  
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- CDarklock 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing
  
  Haven't we all pretty much figured out there is no Casey?
  
  Yes there is, and I can prove it.
  
  She's one of my Facebook friends, and you're not allowed to have a Facebook account unless you're a real person.
  
  Originally Posted by Hans Klein
  
  Truly fitting that the creator of The Moron Letters would make a moron mistake by putting in the wrong URL.
  
  This was actually a technical mistake in putting in the URL, and there's no way to edit it after the fact. A support ticket has been opened, but it will be fixed when it's fixed.
  
  (No, I am not Casey. Honestly, I'm not. If I was, I would be jumping up and down pointing at myself to get all the attention. And I wouldn't have used a pseudonym on something like this anyway.)
  
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CDarklock

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave4545

Check this out.

(porn spam)

Yeah, you're going to be a valuable and respected member of this community.

Not.

Originally Posted by JMichaelZ

That they could have called this anything at all, but chose "The Moron Letters" makes me suspect that someone would like to imply that there is a comparison.

Well, they're letters.

The Boron letters are one kind, the moron letters are another.

Specifically, the Boron letters are paper letters FROM a guru, and the moron letters are internet emails TO the gurus.

Both are terribly entertaining even if you don't learn squat from them.

I don't think there necessarily has to be any further similarity.

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Michael Shook

13 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Yeah, you're going to be a valuable and respected member of this community.

Not.

Well, they're letters.

The Boron letters are one kind, the moron letters are another.

Specifically, the Boron letters are paper letters FROM a guru, and the moron letters are internet emails TO the gurus.

Both are terribly entertaining even if you don't learn squat from them.

I don't think there necessarily has to be any further similarity.

True enough, I tend to overthink things. Could be just a prank.

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13 years ago

LMAO.
AHAHAHA... im sry that is just to rich... great stuff

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lchiles

13 years ago

Casey is...The Donald!

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13 years ago

Lawton, nice theory... more publicity for a White House run.

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MontelloMarketing 13 years ago

A moron in the whitehouse? Wouldn't be the first time.
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- Charlotte Jay 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing
  
  A moron in the whitehouse? Wouldn't be the first time.
  
  Steady on there lol
  
  It is an ingenious way to build a list. And I wondered what the hell it was all about when I saw a banner ad for it on here first thing this morning. Mystery solved :p
  
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dsiomtw

13 years ago

Um, did no one else notice that when you opt-in the video that tells you to confirm your email is Andy Jenkins' voice?

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Floyd Fisher

13 years ago

Originally Posted by lchiles

Did anyone read this! Funny!

The Moron Letters
The Moron Letters

Notice what Guru's aren't in this. Maybe they're behind it.

Mark Joyner?

Oooo... Kern is mentioned, but he's not in it.... weird.

Joyner would never do a backhanded slap at Gary Halbert like this person did.

The whole thing is a definitely a different spin on the whole anti guru scene. Very original to say the least.

Now what agenda does the person behind this really have?

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Don Halbert

13 years ago

Hilarious.

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Andyhenry

13 years ago

I didn't get to read them - the sales letter said if you're easily offended or Prissy turn back - and I don't know what Prissy means and I am easily offended so I turned back.

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J Bold

13 years ago

Did anyone else read this and not find them really that funny?

I mean, I guess one or two lines made me chuckle but for laughs I'd rather watch reruns of Seinfeld or Conan.

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13 years ago

I sorta agree... I mean, I did find many of the letters funny... others, I found the juxtaposition of the question to the person it was being posed to... and still other times it was actually the reaction that made me laugh out loud.

But... truth be told, you really can't beat Seinfeld in its heyday.

Still worth a laugh... or for you toughies like rediclander... worth a slight smile.

Originally Posted by redicelander

Did anyone else read this and not find them really that funny?

I mean, I guess one or two lines made me chuckle but for laughs I'd rather watch reruns of Seinfeld or Conan.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by redicelander

Did anyone else read this and not find them really that funny?

I mean, I guess one or two lines made me chuckle but for laughs I'd rather watch reruns of Seinfeld or Conan.

You can't beat Seinfeld or Conan. But, I don't think this kind of humor is really in the same category. What's funny isn't so much what's said in the reactions, but that the emails did or didn't get reactions at all.

It's kind like watching a "hidden camera" show or Sacha Baron Cohen as Ali G (youtube it). He asks the most off-the-wall questions and the participant isn't sure if he's serious or it's a joke.

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TiffanyLambert

13 years ago

Originally Posted by redicelander

Did anyone else read this and not find them really that funny?

I mean, I guess one or two lines made me chuckle but for laughs I'd rather watch reruns of Seinfeld or Conan.

Me.

I thought the letters from Casey were snarky funny a bit but without the "guru" participating in the back and forth it kinda fell flat. Now if they had played along, it would have been good.

Boring!

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PabloVTB

13 years ago

I opted in to read this.

Do you really consider this funny?

I didn't laugh at all. Worthless to me.

But hey, maybe my sense of humor is simply different.

Who knows :/

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Ross Bowring

13 years ago

Originally Posted by PabloVTB

I opted in to read this.

Do you really consider this funny?

I didn't laugh at all. Worthless to me.

But hey, maybe my sense of humor is simply different.

Who knows :/

Yeah... especially when it comes to humor it's different strokes for different folks.

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MontelloMarketing 13 years ago

Has anyone else heard a rumor of the unedited version floating around?

I was on a mastermind call last night and someone mentioned they had seen it.
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lchiles

13 years ago

Is this the new Shock and Awe campaign? If so, consider me awed. Not by Casey but perhaps the generous and funny replies from all these guys The Moron Letters

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Dennis Murphy 13 years ago

It took me about 3 whole minutes to find out who was behind this.

Nicely done my friend, nicely done :-)

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12 years ago

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