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Stop Torrent Sites From Getting My Stuff?

by MissLauraCatella
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Anyone have any success with getting an item of theirs taken down from a torrent site, if it was illegally up there? I'm thinking it'd be quite tough.
#sites #stop #stuff #torrent
  • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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    It can be. Outside of issuing a DMCA, there isn't much that can be done. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people out there that have no respect for a person's intellectual property, and it's not possible to stop it all.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlexR
    Virtually impossible to do. There are so many torrent engines that any or all of them could list your product.

    Your product could end up in a share torrent page on just about any computer anywhere in the world.

    Personally, I wouldn't stress over it.

    The only real option that you have if you are really serious about protecting your products is to code them so that they have to "phone home" to verify legitimacy and compare either a purchasers email address with their IP. If you find that you are getting multiple IP hits for a particular email address, then disable the product.

    Obviously this won't work with everything and is a somewhat costly measure. If you can justify the cost, that's about the best way to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    Always include ways you can make money in every product you release. You have to expect your products to be stolen and given away for free at some point.

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  • Profile picture of the author MissLauraCatella
    Thank you all so much. Makes perfect sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author sitehero
      The best advice to combat people giving your stuff on torrent sites is to dominate it yourself. Create a shorter or a trial version of your product and then promote the full version to them. Turn this into a torrent download and get it listed on all of the major torrent sites using all the important keywords. As the owner of a product you will always have the advantage at being the very first uploader of your product and if you do it properly you will easily domainate the torrent searches and drown out all the pirates.
      Also, if someone see's that your already dominating the keywords they will be less likely to even bother uploading it and move onto something else.

      Not forgetting, this strategy will give you an extra traffic source as well.

      This is how I would do it and I honestly think its your best option, rather than spending hours trying to get torrents removed. When something has been leaked online, it is physically impossible to remove it because it will just keep on spreading so don't waste your energy on this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by sitehero View Post

        The best advice to combat people giving your stuff on torrent sites is to dominate it yourself. Create a shorter or a trial version of your product and then promote the full version to them. Turn this into a torrent download and get it listed on all of the major torrent sites using all the important keywords. As the owner of a product you will always have the advantage at being the very first uploader of your product and if you do it properly you will easily domainate the torrent searches and drown out all the pirates.
        This ^^^^ is definitely what I'd do. Put a very abbreviated "trial version" in such places yourself, include affiliate links, links to your own site, links to your squeeze page, whatever. Minimise the loss and try at least to get something back, over the longer term, from the "illicit" downloads.

        And don't listen to anyone telling you that "illegal downloaders were never going to buy it anyway": this simply isn't true at all. The world is full of people who will look around for a free download, when they want an e-book or whatever, and then buy it only if they can't find one: these people do cost vendors money.

        Good luck!
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        • Profile picture of the author Larryathome
          One thing a good friend told me is if you do not want anyone to steal your stuff, do not put it on the web. This can be frustrating as you put work into something and want to gain from it. You obviously can put in protections, but you would hope that the gains that you make far outweigh the loss.
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  • Profile picture of the author thepinoycoder
    I like sitehero's idea. As an alternative, I was thinking of having a personalized copy for each buyer whenever they buy my products. These personalized copies can have hidden text on certain pages or qr codes that would point me back as to whom the offending pirate. I could threaten that pirate for a lawsuit or something.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
      Originally Posted by thepinoycoder View Post

      I like sitehero's idea. As an alternative, I was thinking of having a personalized copy for each buyer whenever they buy my products. These personalized copies can have hidden text on certain pages or qr codes that would point me back as to whom the offending pirate. I could threaten that pirate for a lawsuit or something.
      if they really want it that wouldn't work all they have to do i recreate it without the personalisation
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      • Profile picture of the author Ga RedNeck
        Originally Posted by Frank Ayres View Post

        if they really want it that wouldn't work all they have to do i recreate it without the personalisation
        This is true but it will cut out 90% of it
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      • Profile picture of the author thepinoycoder
        Originally Posted by Frank Ayres View Post

        if they really want it that wouldn't work all they have to do i recreate it without the personalisation
        To specify having the code hidden somewhere obscure like have a binary editor and randomly inserting a key somewhere in the PDF. The pirates may be able to remove it by converting it into a different format like PDF to EPUB. But on the most part, they will have a hard time finding that sort of a watermark. But if the file is not tampered like some guy just seeded it as is, you can check who the culprit is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ga RedNeck
    One thing im going todo because most of my stuff is limited is put there name and email
    In 2/3 spots thru the pdf or pop up bubbles in my vids
    Then u will know if leaked
    Workin on automatin this
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  • Profile picture of the author MattVit
    Is this a serious question?

    If I gave you $100,000,000 ($100 million) dollars, do you think you could do it?

    Please don't say yes, because I'm actually referring to the film industry here, who spend multi millions trying to remove their movies from torrents and are totally unsuccessful.

    So, short answer, no, it is impossible if it's up there and being downloaded frequently.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ga RedNeck
    How many Blackhatters you know thats going to spend time
    Editing a product they rip
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  • Profile picture of the author clayvligon
    I always recommend to use a VPN for torrenting and as I was going through various articles I found the best torrent sites for 2017 list to be very useful.
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