Best IM System for a newbie

If you're prepared to work for your money why not offer a service instead?

Even though your post is small, it appears you can write. Why not write articles? There are tons of Warriors willing to pay for that.

Hi Chouxbear,

First I'd avoid any "How to be a millionaire" rubbish. Have a look online for Ed Dale and The Challenge, it's free and a very good introduction to IM.

Failing that and you have some change knocking around, I'd look up Paul Barrs, on this forum and his Maximum Success University, which I've seen and consider excellent.

Neither are hype and neither promise millions, they do however give you a viable business.

There's some good stuff out there and a huge amount of crap peddled by people that have no right to sell it.

Be careful what you buy.

Ho chouxbear,
There is no such thing as "the best system". Various systems have their own advantages and disadvantages, but to find your very own "best IM systmem", I would try and at least a few and start implementing the bits which appeals to you most. With time you will develop your own unqiue system and that will be a combination of many that you will learn.

But that's a philosophy, here is some practical tips.
I personally tried quite a few before everything "fell into place".
I would recommend you a few:
Brian Jackson - Commission Ritual and Comission Ritual Extended.
Kim Roach - Traffic dashboard.
Mark Lyng - AffiloBlueprint.

If you only can afford one at the moment, I'd start from Brian Jackson Commission Ritual (It was $97 for 90 videos).

Hope that helps.

If I was starting again I'd not rush to buy too many products. My suggestion would be to build a list. You can do this in a number of different ways. There's a lot of info for free on this forum about this and many other techniques that can work for you.
Also if you are willing to invest in your developement I'd suggest upgrading to the war room.

Good luck.

Rich

A simple thing you can do that will give you a lot of the necessary skills:
Choose a niche
Find forums in that niche
Spend time in those forums, PARTICIPATE
Figure out a problem a lot of the people are having
Spend a week doing research and gathering information
Write it up in a 20-40 page PDF
Sell it through Paypal

I'll confess that I'm turning 60 this year, so I understand the challenges and contexts of someone in my generational neighborhood.

I've tried lists and I was not impressed with the response. That's partly because I'm worthless at hawking products (and hate doing so), but also because I think we've reached the saturation point with many readers who no longer have time to read much of what shows up in their in-boxes.

I've replaced my own lists with Feedburner updates automatically sent to people who sign up for them. It's been one of the best things I've done, in terms of word-of-mouth (and social media) exposure... as well as popularity and income. It's been far better than maintaining lists.

(I think that also reflects the loss of the "ooh, shiny" factor of emails, as well as the plummeting integrity among many online marketers.)

Writing can be good... very good, in fact. I highly recommend CreateSpace.com where you can become your own publisher and sell your books/audios/videos at Amazon.com with almost zero up-front money. All you do is buy a proof copy (at wholesale) to verify that the finished product looks good. Then, the book is in the queue to start selling at Amazon.com.

PM me if you have questions, and -- as time permits -- I'll happily point you towards what's worked for me.

I recently purchased Dan Brock's Amazon-related product and it's easily the best WSO I've bought in a very long time. However, I've been online for many years and I have other products that mesh well with Dan's course; my rave review may not reflect a novice's experiences. (See Page 5 of the WSO thread related to that course. My lengthy review is near the bottom of that page.)

I recommend a three-pronged approach: I write books (and I'm a fine artist) for most of my income.

In my free time, or when I just need to take a break from my regular work routine, I create niche-specific websites. I monetize them with AdSense and/or Amazon affiliate sales, depending on the niche.

So, if you're just starting out and you can write well -- as the quality of your post suggests -- I recommend writing books to sell via CreateSpace.com (a division of Amazon.com).

And, while you're working on your books, take a course like Dan Brock's and build a few Amazon-related websites. (You can see how you like that approach with Blogger websites, before investing in your own domains & hosting. That way, your main up-front cost is just Dan's course.)

It's key to narrow your focus as much as possible. Two-and-a-half careers is my limit: Art, writing, and niche websites. I don't get involved in building sites or selling ads for offline clients. I don't sell through Clickbank. I don't build mailing lists. I do some article marketing and things like Squidoo lenses, but only as PR for my niche sites and my books. I don't set up membership sites. I don't give webinars or sell my own reports. (If I know enough for a report, it's going to become a book; that gives me better long-term income, per product created.)

Yes, I may be leaving a staggering amount of money on the table. I know that. I'm simply a firm believer in doing one thing well before adding the next whatever-it-is.

The biggest risk for anyone online is that "ooh, shiny" temptation to spread yourself too thin.

I'm still at the beginning of Dan Brock's Amazon-related course, but -- so far -- it looks like something I should have learned about years ago. I definitely recommend it, especially at its current price.

(Added plus for an author selling at Amazon.com: Everything I learn about promoting other people's products, as an Amazon affiliate, can be applied to marketing my own books, audio books, etc.)

I hope that helps!

For a newbie, stay away from the high priced courses and whatnot. They will only confuse you and you'll be out of pocket. I would start by either offering a service, I write for my bread and butter or check out affiliate marketing. There is so much free informational gold on this forum, that you shouldn't really ever need to pay for a high priced guru course. If you really want to get a course then I would say make the investment into the War Room membership on here. There are some truly excellent strategies and tips in there, not to mention some good courses that are free from experienced warriors.

Hi Chouxbear
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Some great points here, I'm also a visual artist doing IM to add to my income and for some variety in my work. I agree on concentrating on one thing, having patience and just cranking away with some quality articles for backlinking. I've had luck putting together a link ring with web 2.0 sites: Squidoo, Blogger even Live Journal and one or two article sites pointing to my niche site.

I also use Youtube quite a bit to build adsense income on videos of my art work. This has been ramping up for about a year and looks promising.

After 4 months I'm starting to see a steady increase in Amazon and Adsense.

I recommend you try something like Google sniping, setting up tiny little wordpress blogs which rank easy. This is what makes me easy money.

Hi, if you're starting out... definitely try Bring the Fresh.
Great community, and great step-by-step guide that will bring you to make your first income online easily!! I'm a living example of the course.

Spend your money joining the war room on his forum. Read until your head hurts, sleep, repeat - everyday until you form a plan. This will give you an idea where to start and give you an idea on the type of service you feel comfortable providing. I don't like to write content, so I spend $100-$200 per week on outsourcing content creation. I enjoy the cold calling and selling. I get my websites up - add the purchased content - publish - Sell - sell sell! Specialize in what works for you. I have no adsense site, no affiliate marketing sites - but I specialized in the area I feel comfortable, both making and selling.
mj

First off I would build or have built a website. Though everybody with these affiliate programs say you don't need one I wouldn't start off without it.

Martin

Don't buy any programs! There is enough FREE info online already ( especially here at WF)...

Getting targeted traffic is the biggest challenge for marketers, regardless of what type of product you would like to sell.

There are NO push button systems PERIOD! So don't get sucked into all the hype online.

I recommend you Michael Brown's Niche Blitzkrieg and Chris Farrell's membership site. These two are great for beginners as they are real and honest. Thanks


Qamar

Hi:

Shireen here :-)

Purchase some ebooks with master resell rights and sell them on ebay.

This is simple. I will save you buying your next $2997 course.

Ok you ready....

1) build a list of targeted customers.

2) Give them great content

3) Help them.

You do this and the profits will come to you faster than you can say - "Hot diggity!"

Good luck out there.

OK. As one Seasoned Citizen to another, I'm going to give you a roadmap.

What you need:

1] A hungry market. We call this a niche.
2] A product to offer
3] A 'storefront'. we call this a website.
4] Customers coming in your 'store'.

None of these things need to cost money. Which is not to say that money spent judiciously on each isn't a good idea. It just doesn't need to be done till you learn where to spend it.

Let's start with number three. Use Wordpress. you don't need to know a thing about coding or technical stuff to build a good website with Wordpress. All you need to know is available free all over the internet.

Number two: For your first product, use Google Adsense. It won't make you rich but in the course of builing websites for Adsense and attracting traffic to them you will learn the skills you need to move on to higher profit things like Amazon, affiliate products, CPA, PLR and eventually your own products, But start with Adsense and stick with it till you have learned the necessary skills.

Number four: Getting traffic is the key to success. In the course of accomplishing the other three things on the list you will be learning about all the different means of attracting throngs of high-quality, motivated buyers to your site.

Notice that I didn't provide links or specific information about niche research, domains, hosting, etc. All of that information is available here on the Warrior forum and in the War Room. It's your mission to seek it out

I totally agree with Ed Dale's training, I have been through that and Carbon Copy Pro Internet Education. I have been with CCPRO since 2007 and give them credit for teaching me Internet Marketing at an expert level. Has allowed me to do very well in the Offline Marketing World. Good luck....stick with it !!!

You seem to have the right attitude being that you are willing to work hard this will serve you in good stead in the Internet Marketing world as it is like any other business in that you MUST work hard to make it work and even harder to make it a success.
There is no '1 click get rich' scheme that will work and I would steer clear of any of that make me a millionaire stuff do not purchase to many programms, do your research choose a programme that suits you, purchase it and stick with it and stay focused on generating leads and traffic. Stick to 1 strategy at a time and FOCUS.
Hope that helps

Hey chouxbear.

You mentioned in your first post the Dan Brock Dead Beat Super Affliate course. You can do a search on that course here at the Warrior Forum, and read some reviews about it. You should find that it is generally favorably reviewed, which is not an easy thing to have happen around here - what with all the varying opinions and backgrounds and approaches.

I'm not a big fan of his presentation style, but it's an above-average course that can get anyone (including a complete newbie) aimed in the right direction, so that you can start to sell physical products (primarily, Amazon products) online. The course begins with the basics of setting up a website and installing WordPress. And proceeds to explain what else is needed to start to make some money.

I think it is still $37, but if you try to exit the sales page before purchasing, you should be able to get it for just $27. And at that price, you have your money's worth.

Forget all the upsells and down-sells and side-sells he throws at you, just buy the basic course (which has a lot in it), and go from there. He also has some advanced training material in the course. You can learn a lot about IM in general through that course. And you can indeed learn a valuable specific IM technique through that course. And if you focus your initial efforts in that direction, and really apply yourself, you should do OK. And the technique is scalable.

All the best in your endeavors.

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I have a great offer in my signature you might like.

for a newbie its preferred in my opinion to go with guys such as ewen chia because his systems are made for newbies and not for advanced internet marketers. I would suggest chris farrell as well!

I would personally vouch for anything by Lee Mcintrye - very honest marketer, no fluff, no filler and what you see is what you get!

Good luck,
Josh

My personal recommendation would be Erik Stafford and Ross Goldberg's system, "Ultimate Side Income". This system will not show you how to make millions or anything like that, but instead show you step by step on how to replace your bills one at a time.

I was a beta user for this system and I'm proud to say this is worth every penny of the $47 investment and then some. Plus I'm a friend of these guys (as they live in the same county as me) and I can tell you that they know what they are talking about, and will not spread any BS.

You can find out more at ultimatesideincome.com

Good luck!

Check out TalkMarketingNow.com

Tons of free information constantly
being shared on there. It's worth looking
at for sure. It's ran by George Sepich.

Join the War Room. Not sure what the price is these days but whatever it is it's worth it. Once you're in there you'll be able to download all kinds of really good information for free.

Many of the free downloads were once successful WSOs. I'm amazed at the quality of some of the stuff. I picked up some software last week that retails for $197 on the creator's site, free. Before you decide on any approach to marketing become familiar with what it's all about. Good luck.

Hi,
We've all been there my friend. And reading through your replies, you are getting a lot of good advice. The first thing you did right was getting on this forum. Like others have said, you can find a lot of good information. You mentioned interest in Dan Brock's Deadbeat Super Affiliate. It was this course that finally got me going. I was buying everything in site, getting conflicting information...it pretty much turned my mind to mush. When I bought Deadbeat Affiliate, I was finally able to get things going. Dan is a good guy, and watching his videos will simplify your journey significantly. As I'm sure you have already found out, no matter where you start, and no matter how many recommendations you get for "the best product" you are still going to have questions. Then the next problem is who do you trust? If you can connect with someone experienced that will answer your questions, you'll be on your way. I have been sucked into more courses and coaching programs than I care to remember, but there are good ones out there. One I would like to recommend is "imwithjamie". Jamie Lewis just started a new coaching program that I found fantastic, and definitely worth the money. He holds webinars three times a week. I've been on a lot of webinars, but never one like this. Each webinar has a specific theme, ie traffic building, keyword research, finding the right niche, etc. It is fully interactive, just type in your questions, and they definitely will be answered. As a matter of fact, the last 3 I have attended ran for 3+ hours. He WILL answer everyone. This is not the case for the majority of the programs out there. Jamie is sincere, spends quality time with all who ask questions, and NEVER makes you feel like an idiot. As he says in every webinar, he'll be there for as long as you need him. After your webinar, go back to his membership site, and he has great videos to walk you through the basics. You can also view all the past webinars, along with their worksheets and links. There is also a forum where all the members go to pick up on where you left off. Jamie is on the forum often, and it's also another place where you can list what you are having problems with, and Jamie will address it. I have been on overdrive since I joined imwithjamie, and have not been disappointed. Check him out if you want to work with a true Good Guy.

Hope this helps. Email me if you would like to talk. I'll answer any question I can.

One thing to consider is the senior market is huge right now and growing every day. You could find a way to tap into your own life and share your experiences. This could be done with a blog or ebooks or videos...or all of the above.

For example:
How to cut expenses once you're retired

Starting an online business when you're over 60

Online dating for Seniors

Easy online business for Seniors

Making extra money online for Seniors

Staying in Shape over Sixty

etc. etc.

Rose

How to Make Money Online by Starting a Home Based Internet Business | Internet Marketing Center

(not an affiliate link)

This is where many of us started. It provides an excellent overview of what you need to know, and then drills down into specifics.

For someone just starting out I believe this type of product is critical.

It's been around about 15 years. Not some "scheme" made up by some kid.

Just keep looking at the latest posts on this forum and you will slowly learn who is talking rubbish and who is winning!

At your age I'm sure that you've had plenty of life experiences. Enough to write a book. If I were you, I'd take advantage of that fact and write some type of info product. I'm sure that you know how to do a lot of things that people would pay to learn. Do that and the rest is basic marketing. No special course needed.

Best system for a newbies:

1) Pick a niche you like and you are familiar with (Important!)
2) Create a squeeze page
3) Queue up 4 emails providing 4 pieces of SOLID content
4) On email 5 offer a SOLID product and the reasons you think your subscribers will benefit from it
5) From email 6 onward alternate solid content with product promotion
6) Drive traffic to squeeze page
7) Track your metrics and pay for traffic below breakeven cost

Just being on this forum is a good start, there is tons of information here. If you are looking to make some money straight away, take a look at outsourcing your services on sites such as Odesk and fiverr. Stay away from these products that promise instant cash, they all rubbish and the only one making cash is the creators of these products, nothing comes easy in this world, if you have to work for your goal then your already in the right direction!

Services are definitely the way to go for a newbie. Once you get a few clients with repeat business, you're golden.

Don't go looking for a 'system'. If you spend all your time searching for this you will just spin your wheels and you will get no where. A perfect system for person A may be terrible for person B. You need to find your niche on the web and take action. Simple as that. Do the work and you will succeed.

What I would recommend is create a blog where you can write all your experience online as you're searching for the best system.Your journey could make lots of people follow you. Marketing online is all about having an audience.

try to use social media and articles, it`s simple..

Hey Warriors. Thank you again for all your wonderful input. I am slowly sifting through the recommendations and I will let you know where this journey takes me.
Cheers