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13 years ago

Do not worry, even if English was your native language, you would have normal chances of getting this too.

From my personal experience (I`m not a guru at article marketing, but have articles submitted there from time to time) - sometimes just a little fix can get it through, sometimes you`ll need to contact them and see what exactly they do not see as correct. There can be nothing wrong with your article... can be that the person who did not let it through, did not read it the way you want

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Nigel Greaves

13 years ago

Welcome to the Warrior Forum Newmarket.

You could try this site:
English Grammar Reference and Exercises

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AnniePot

13 years ago

I just Googled "grammar help" and found thius link (plus many more)

English Grammar Help, Rules, Worksheets, Lesson Plans and Explainations

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ReachOneMedia

13 years ago

1 Word... Outsource!

I barely speak english... I can write but certainly not without at least 50 typos in a 400 words article lol

Learn it for your your own personal growth not to make money... you'll waste to much time.

Capitalize your time on other people efforts...

Hope this help

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Steven Dybka

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ReachOneMedia

1 Word... Outsource!

I barely speak english... I can write but certainly not without at least 50 typos in a 400 words article lol

Learn it for your your own personal growth not to make money... you'll waste to much time.

Capitalize your time on other people efforts...

Hope this help

J

I agree,just have them written by someone else and focus your time on something else instead.

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Ged3

13 years ago

Yes it is probably a good idea to out source or take up
Rhinocl`s offer.

I think this will save you a lot of time and frustration.

Hope this helps.
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wkathome

13 years ago

Outsourcing would be the best option. Beats months or years of trying to learn proper English structure.

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donhx

13 years ago

Get the WhiteSmoke software (Google it). It is designed for people whose first language is not English and it will quickly and easily catch the errors for you. Worth the price if you want to get your articles accepted immediately.

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talfighel

13 years ago

For everyone here who is writing articles and are submitting them through EZA, your articles may not get approved.

Don't waste your time with them. They are going DOWNHILL and will not accept many articles.

There are so many places where you can place your articles, like in this forum in the ARTICLES SECTION, and get them approved.

Don't forget to submit great articles that have great content.

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Chris Worner

13 years ago

Originally Posted by talfighel

For everyone here who is writing articles and are submitting them through EZA, your articles may not get approved.

Don't waste your time with them. They are going DOWNHILL and will not accept many articles.

Sucks having to make a concerted effort to create a high quality original article that isn't a summarized version of an exisiting one on there doesn't it? :rolleyes:

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bnwebm

13 years ago

Really? I just joined them last week and submitted three articles, all of which were published within two days, no revisions. I just got an email from EZ telling me I am now an expert author. I don't think they are declining, I think they are demanding better quality content.

Originally Posted by talfighel

For everyone here who is writing articles and are submitting them through EZA, your articles may not get approved.

Don't waste your time with them. They are going DOWNHILL and will not accept many articles.

There are so many places where you can place your articles, like in this forum in the ARTICLES SECTION, and get them approved.

Don't forget to submit great articles that have great content.

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Lea Karana 13 years ago

You need to write good articles if you want stand out in your niche.

If your struggling with writing or having a hard time writing or it just simply takes too long for you to write an article then you need to outsource.

As an internet marketer, you will always need articles, content always for whatever reason.

I did everything myself in the beginning and it took me forever to launch a website, i learned that it is best to outsource the tasks that I'm not good at (and no person is good at everything) so its fine, don't feel bad And focus on what you are good at.

You'll get things done a lot quicker that way

But good luck with everything

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Wills

13 years ago

Outsourcing is an option.

But if you want to write them yourself, you could get them proof read on fiverr.com. Just have a look at some of the gigs, to see what tickles your fancy.

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Dana Goetz

13 years ago

Hi Newmarket,

I would outsource if I were you. However, sometimes in places like Elance big outsourcing companies pose as an individual looking for work. The problem is that the freelancers they hire work for them not you. So there is no accountabilty with your specific project. There’s also no incentive to get the job done quickly in fact, since they get paid by the hour it is in their benefit to take as long as possible to getting the job done.
In my opinion the best thing you could do is build your outsource team so that they answer to you and not a 3rd party.

So where do you find some of these awesome people? Well, one way is on Find a real, online job! | Home this is a great place to search their resume’s. You will see a full description of their ability’s and experience. Good luck to you!

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laurencewins

13 years ago

@Nigel. Thanks for sharing that grammar link. It looks very helpful, although my skills are pretty good it's handy to have reference sites to help with the tricky situations.

@Newmarket, if you find English is difficult, I concur with the others in saying that outsourcing is better for you because you can focus on the other aspects of your business and relieve the obvious stress you have about writing.

I am a pretty good writer and could perhaps help you out if necessary.

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Lloyd Buchinski 13 years ago

Microsoft Word is good for suggestions, but there are problems with it. Sometimes it makes a suggestion that is completely false and it would be hard to tell without more experience at the language.

Outsourcing would probably be difficult too. If someone supplies you with a poor quality article you might not be able to tell the difference. It might be OK with reputable writers, but then there is that little problem of the money it costs.

I think the main thing is just to use the language. Maybe join a forum for a hobby of yours and start putting up posts. You could even mention the language problem and ask for people to let you know if you have anything wrong, or anything that could be improved.

If you have a health problem find a forum for that. In my experience it was a shock how much more friendly and less ego driven one of them was than this forum. (It might have helped that I picked a much more simple user name than the one I have here.)

That's not the quick easy most people are looking for, but it's the way I like doing things, and I bet it would turn out a lot more interesting.

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johnllino

13 years ago

Outsourcing is one of the best options.

If you really want to have your own ideas on your articles you can look for a proofreader. You can also send your articles in other article directories which is less meticulous.

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abock

13 years ago

It's not your fault guys, Ezinearticles has gone crazy.

It didn't like sulfide for example which is a proper word. Also it says utilize is incorrect and it is utilise. However I think the opposite. This is just stupid. I've sent a message to support...

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by abock

It didn't like sulfide for example which is a proper word.

Some authorities (including Wiki, apparently) consider it "proper"; others consider it a misspelling of "sulphide". If doing editorial work for a publisher, I would certainly change "sulfide", myself - but I'm in the UK.

Originally Posted by abock

Also it says utilize is incorrect and it is utilise.

"Utilize" is correct in the US. "Utilise" is correct, to the best of my knowledge, throughout the rest of the English-speaking world.

EZA have always said that they'll accept either American or "British" (i.e. "rest-of-the-world") English spellings, as long as they're used consistently. Maybe they're changing their minds about this, now? Interesting ...
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x3xsolxdierx3x

13 years ago

Rigorous quality assurance is a GOOD thing.

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myob

13 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

Rigorous quality assurance is a GOOD thing.

Agreed. The thing is, good quality is neither rigorous nor assured at EZA. :p

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x3xsolxdierx3x

13 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

Agreed. The thing is, good quality is neither rigorous nor assured at EZA. :p

That's unfortunate.

For their own sake, I hope they can remedy it without making too many people upset.

Some have made a killing there, but I've never submitted a single article there. I prefer to host my content either on my own site or other online properties that have extensive quality control processes.

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myob

13 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

That's unfortunate.

For their own sake, I hope they can remedy it without making too many people upset.

Some have made a killing there, but I've never submitted a single article there. I prefer to host my content either on my own site or other online properties that have extensive quality control processes.

Don't discount the potential that EZA provides for syndication; it still is a powerful tool if used for what it was originally intended, even though admitedly at times it is rather kooky. I have my own extensive quality control process - writing quality articles that are suitable for syndication in the first place.

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x3xsolxdierx3x

13 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

Don't discount the potential that EZA provides for syndication; it still is a powerful tool if used for what it was originally intended, even though admitedly at times it is rather kooky. I have my own extensive quality control process - writing quality articles that are suitable for syndication in the first place.

But, EVERYONE's business is ultimately affected because of the impact on the collective that occurs when a select few exploit a platform. I agree about syndication and ensuring you have your OWN extensive quality control process. It does stink, though, that GREAT writers, with HIGH quality content, can ultimately suffer when the platform is exploited by a few for quick personal gain.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

It does stink, though, that GREAT writers, with HIGH quality content, can ultimately suffer when the platform is exploited by a few for quick personal gain.

True, true ... and a most noble and commendable thought, with which I fully agree.

But the reality is that it doesn't matter all that much, in the overall scheme of things.

The realities of article marketing are such that people who really are "great" writers and really do produce "high" quality content, and know what they're doing, are going to have no great difficulty in building successful, asset-based, residual-income-based, growing businesses, while these days the overwhelming majority of those who depend on article directories for backlinks/traffic, spin their content, and use automated mass distribution are inevitably and inexorably going to screw up (excuse me: I meant to say "encounter insuperable difficulties") and drop out ... or re-appear a year later and start a thread entitled "Article Marketing Doesn't Work Any More" (because, of course, for them it doesn't).

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x3xsolxdierx3x

13 years ago

Was your traffic/business impacted at all by the Panda Algorithm change, Alexa? We see a rather significant drop in EZA's traffic across the board...were alot of writers unaffected?

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

True, true ... and a most noble and commendable thought, with which I fully agree.

But the reality is that it doesn't matter all that much, in the overall scheme of things.

The realities of article marketing are such that people who really are "great" writers and really do produce "high" quality content, and know what they're doing, are going to have no great difficulty in building successful, asset-based, residual-income-based, growing businesses, while these days the overwhelming majority of those who depend on article directories for backlinks/traffic, spin their content, and use automated mass distribution are going to screw up (excuse me: I meant to say "encounter insuperable difficulties") and drop out ... or re-appear a year later and start a thread entitled "Article Marketing Doesn't Work Any More" (because, of course, for them it doesn't).

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

Was your traffic/business impacted at all by the Panda Algorithm change, Alexa?

Yes, it did help me out, apparently.

Several of us commented quickly that we were seeing some benefits from it. I admit I was slow to say so, because I kept on thinking that it was "too early to tell", so I kept quietish on the subject for a while and just hoped it would stay that way. Which it did: it has actually helped quite a bit.

Anything that gets article directory listings out of the front page of the SERP's is a plus, by definition, for article marketers, because it all helps us to rank our own sites.

(It was bad news for article directory marketers, I suppose, but to be fair they had an extremely difficult and perhaps somewhat misguided business model even pre-Panda).
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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

Yep, if I put my articles on there now, tons of people syndicate them elsewhere without my bio link, or even spin it.

I find EZA to be a huge business risk these days. Great for quick indexing and a handful of backlinks but not useful for anything else at all. Used to be good for traffic but no longer.

I have the same problem with people sometimes ripping my articles and taking out the links and/or spinning them. A quick DMCA usually takes care of this, however, if you are inclined to send one.

I don't particularly regard such occurrences as conferring any negative consequences to my sites/business, though, or causing me any real loss at all. Most such sites where your articles "illegitimately" end up are of such low quality, and are so unfocused topically, that they receive little to no targeted traffic. It's not like I'd stand to gain much (other than a pretty weak backlink) even if they'd published my article in accordance with the ToS of the article directory from which they'd ripped it. I'll just send the DMCA out of principle more than anything.

I don't really agree that EZA is useless, though. I still get some useful passive syndication from it sometimes; and even in cases when the syndication arises as a result of my contacting webmasters directly, it serves as a useful portfolio/showcasing platform to which to send them, where the articles are already prepared for republication with resource-boxes and such (which they're obviously not, on my own sites).

That's why I continue to use them, anyway. If ever this changed, then I would simply carry on contacting webmasters directly, set up a showcase on my own sites and leave EZA out of the equation entirely.

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4Frankie

13 years ago

Hi Newmarket - English is my first language and I still got rejected with Ezine just persevere and also ask them what is wrong. After doing that I found sometimes it was a simple thing and then it was OK to go.
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13 years ago

Check out the software called Ginger....

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Daws0n

13 years ago

If English is not your native language & you are still interested in article marketing then either you have to learn the language which is a time consuming process or you have to outsource your work to a native English speaker, i would recommend not to go with cheap article writers because they are cheap only because they are 3rd class.

Also, you won't be able to judge whether the article those cheap writers are writing for you would be accepted or not because you are not an expert in the same language that's one of the reasons why its better to go with someone who is reputable in the industry and to whom you can trust upon.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Daws0n

i would recommend not to go with cheap article writers because they are cheap only because they are 3rd class.

Some are cheap because although they have good writing skills, they lack marketing skills, and don't understand that there are ways to compete other than on price.

Originally Posted by Daws0n

Also, you won't be able to judge whether the article those cheap writers are writing for you would be accepted or not because you are not an expert in the same language that's one of the reasons why its better to go with someone who is reputable in the industry and to whom you can trust upon.

Very good point, and well made.

People often say here that those whose English isn't good enough "should outsource the writing", as if it's the easiest thing in the world to do. It isn't, at all. Outsourcing reliably is actually rather a difficult skill all of its own.

Sadly, it's also possible to pay higher prices and still end up disappointed. :p

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skibbz

13 years ago

Originally Posted by newmarket

Hi,

English is my second language and here is the problem:

''Sorry, your article contains grammar, spelling, punctuation, or sentence structure errors.''

I do not know which of these four problems I have, but can anyone recommend me where can I find grammar exercises online or something else?

Thanks in advance!

I would recommend outsourcing your articles for now and keep working on improving your english until you are comfortable enough

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JohnMcCabe 13 years ago

Here's another take...

Don't outsource the actual writing. You have a unique voice (or should have).

Outsource the editing. There are far fewer people advertising for editing gigs, and the feedback is more likely to be accurate (not guranteed, though).

And if you really want to improve your English, read a lot of English - fiction, news from top notch sources, editorials, whatever. Look at how they put their content together. You will improve just by osmosis.

I haven't seen any issues from the last several years, but Playboy magazine used to have some of the sharpest writers in the English speaking world write for them.

(Confession time. Having a Y chromosome and normal hormones, I didn't just read the articles. But I did, indeed, read the articles...)
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imfusa

13 years ago

English is the same language for me too, and i don't have problems with grammar or spelling, but i have problems with expression and expressing, also language problems.

You could try this site:
English Grammar Reference and Exercises

Hope this would help, i am going to try it.

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dbarnum

13 years ago

Originally Posted by newmarket

Hi,

English is my second language and here is the problem:

''Sorry, your article contains grammar, spelling, punctuation, or sentence structure errors.''

I do not know which of these four problems I have, but can anyone recommend me where can I find grammar exercises online or something else?

Thanks in advance!

Yes, USA native writers who've lived in the USA all their lives are running into this, just to confirm what some others are saying, too.

It's wonderful, though, that you want to work on your writing skills. All writers should sharpen skills on a regular basis, USA native or not. One affordable place is Virtual University (no affil) at:

KSURF Knowledge Web: Virtual University Home Page

In the meantime, while you learn, outsourcing is an excellent idea, too. We help lots of Warriors with their content and posting at EzineArticles, so happy to work with you, too - just PM, call, email (links below in my sig file all have complete contact info) or reach out some how ...

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JamesGw

13 years ago

I'd have someone who is a proficient native speaker look over your articles to make sure they're up to par. The more you write (and are corrected,) the better feel you'll have for the English language as a whole.

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ChrisKahler

13 years ago

Check out this document, called Perfect Your Sentences:

perfect-your-sentences

Has 120 common grammar mistakes and tells you the correct way of doing it. It is very handy to have up when proofing what you have written.

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Alan Ashwood

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ChrisKahler

Check out this document, called Perfect Your Sentences:

perfect-your-sentences

Has 120 common grammar mistakes and tells you the correct way of doing it. It is very handy to have up when proofing what you have written.

HI Chris, and thanks for this 50 page document.

I've been through it and there's a lot of sound information there. I would recommend this even to English speaking writers, but essential for non English speakers who want to improve their English article writing.

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ChrisKahler

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood

HI Chris, and thanks for this 50 page document.

I've been through it and there's a lot of sound information there. I would recommend this even to English speaking writers, but essential for non English speakers who want to improve their English article writing.

No problem, I figured it would be a handy quick reference guide to share!

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Alan Ashwood

13 years ago

Hi, don't beat yourself up.

I presented 5 articles to EZA and all of them were rejected.
Some were for infringements such as links etc., but some were for grammar and sentence structure.

1. My first language is English (I AM English);
2. I've written articles and feature columns for newspapers;
3. I've written and edited publications and newsletters fo associations and clubs;
4. I've created and written scripts for marketing and advertising;
5. I have a degree in English Language.

What I found was that EZA was rejecting articles sometimes because they were written in 'conversational English', my style, to make the piece more interesting and entertaining. Somebody simply didn't like it.

Some of these articles were rejected 4-5 times before EZA accepted them!

However the finished article bore little resemblance to the original. In fact, some of them were quite dull and flat. Even I wouldn't want to read them!

Keep your spirits up, but don't get bogged down with too much time spent trying to appease Ezine Articles.

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bnwebm

13 years ago

I suppose I should clarify, I have written for EZ, but for clients, never for myself.

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