2 important reason why NOT to steal content

by sam770
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Guys,
I just finnished to read an interesting post about stealing content

here it is: Click here

I want to share this info with you and also to ask for your opinion regarding this 2 statments I found in that post:

Remember: Splogging has no life and sploggers are living the moment – there are 2 reasons.

They would always come after the original post in search due to link age.
They would eventually be screwed by content owner or banned by search engines.
#content #important #reason #steal
  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I find the best reason for not stealing content is the fact that it is illegal. That seems to work for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author CruisesPerth
    Interesting post...it's not easy to come up with an original article only to have it stolen...at least we have the search engines on our side, or so i hope...
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  • Profile picture of the author iuditg
    I do not steal articles and contents because I can write one myself. I wish there were more ways to protect your content
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  • Profile picture of the author uleesgold
    Banned
    Also its very sleazy to steal content.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    Will search engine really ban someone for copy/paste content? Not sure about this one...
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
      Originally Posted by misterkailo View Post

      Will search engine really ban someone for copy/paste content? Not sure about this one...
      I doubt it. I've even had a 100% stolen post outrank my original post. The strange thing was that at the time, my blog was a PR5 that ranked very highly for some very competitive keywords closely related to the ones I was getting outranked for by the stolen post. The stolen post was on a PR0 blog.
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      • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
        Originally Posted by Steve Faber View Post

        I doubt it. I've even had a 100% stolen post outrank my original post. The strange thing was that at the time, my blog was a PR5 that ranked very highly for some very competitive keywords closely related to the ones I was getting outranked for by the stolen post. The stolen post was on a PR0 blog.
        The same thing has happened to me. Sometimes Google just screws up.

        Fortunately, this isn't a common occurrence...that I know of.
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    • Profile picture of the author ReikiGirl
      Originally Posted by misterkailo View Post

      Will search engine really ban someone for copy/paste content? Not sure about this one...

      The SE may not ban them - but I know for sure the host will. =)
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    • Profile picture of the author johngibb123
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      • Profile picture of the author sam770
        Originally Posted by johngibb123 View Post

        Search engines NEVER bans any websites, instead it just filtered those websites which are having duplicate content in it..
        exactly
        some might call it a form of ban...
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    • Profile picture of the author sam770
      Sorry? you call stealing "sharing"? :confused:
      Originally Posted by harjos View Post

      I call this sharing, not piracy or stealing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by harjos View Post

      I call this sharing, not piracy or stealing.
      Thanks Harjos,

      I'll go ahead and clone the sites in your signature and steal, sorry, share your business with you.

      Let me know when you post some new content on your sites too. I'll come along and steal, oops, share that too.

      You're a real generous marketer. Mind you, your sites are probably just other peoples stolen, err, shared content anyway.
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      • Profile picture of the author sam770
        awesome......

        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        Thanks Harjos,

        I'll go ahead and clone the sites in your signature and steal, sorry, share your business with you.

        Let me know when you post some new content on your sites too. I'll come along and steal, oops, share that too.

        You're a real generous marketer. Mind you, your sites are probably just other peoples stolen, err, shared content anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author peejaydee
      Originally Posted by harjos View Post

      I call this sharing, not piracy or stealing.
      Remember that denial and ignorance will be no defence in the eyes of the law - irrespective of which country you operate from within or steal content from.
      You can call sharing, in fact you can call it Fred if you like, but it is very definitely content theft, not to mention good old fashioned plagiarism and copyright infringement.
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      • Profile picture of the author orangecopper
        Dear members,

        Am here because I found this post linking to one of my blog posts, Thanks Sam for triggering the discussion, in fact – I would like to chip in my opinions as well.

        They would always come after the original post in search due to link age.
        I have often observed that search engine algorithms get it right most of the time when a duplicate content is found and indexed and if the duplicate content is showing up in the SERP before the original content, I have observed that the order did change over time bringing back the original one to the top.

        They would eventually be screwed by content owner or banned by search engines.
        It depends on you on how you find out duplicate content; there are many methods as described in the post, the major one being take the help of search engines to discover duplicate content.

        Will search engine really ban someone for copy/paste content? Not sure about this one...
        It is not defined. If you have a website is being frequently updated and you have a good crawling frequency (you can even define this at Google webmaster tools or through your robots.txt file) there is a good chance that your post is indexed almost immediately after publishing. And regarding banning the copied content, you could always report it to Google DMCA and I have reported and removed about 4 – 5 of my content copied from the Search results.In most cases, directly contacting the webmaster itself has helped solve the issue.
        I call this sharing, not piracy or stealing.
        Sharing vs. Stealing
        You could call it Sharing when you describe the article and do not retain the ownership or credit for the content instead refer back to the owner with a source link, which should be fine right?
        Stealing is when you pretend to own the content and leave no clue of copying the content. I would love to hear your thoughts on the same..

        BTW, i really enjoyed Richard's reply to the comment ;0

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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by harjos View Post

      I call this sharing, not piracy or stealing.
      Oh really? I don't suppose you realize that this post will come up on the first page of google when people do any due diligence before purchasing from you? In other words, You just shared a helluva lot more than you may have intended to. And none of it is looking good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chazzer
      Originally Posted by harjos View Post

      I call this sharing, not piracy or stealing.
      Ohhh good. I like your thinking. Would you send me your bank account number so you can share your money with me?

      Whether you call it "sharing" or not, it's Plagiarism and it's illegal, immoral and unethical. People have gotten tossed out of school, fired from jobs and have lost their reputation for "sharing".

      Why even risk so much?

      Do me a favor please? Don't ever visit any of my websites. Your traffic just isn't worth it to me.


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  • Profile picture of the author Deepikarajpal
    i dont know about others but my site is penalized for having a copy content in websites
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  • Profile picture of the author ecigart
    Stealing things is obviously one of the dumbest mistakes you will ever make in your life, but people sometimes make mistakes and decide to steal. Even though knowing its wrong and there are many reasons why you should not, we sometimes steal. If we were just to think of the consequences if we were to get caught.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Marr
    Great post Sam. Although Number 5 is still questionable. How can you identify a person who copies your content if he already recreated that content that's been taken from your website. And what would you do if he only copied two - three of your sentences? Is that enough evidence to give him a warning that he copied your content?
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  • Profile picture of the author vask
    RightHavenVictim has a blogspot, they're suing a lot of bloggers who steal content. Most of their victims usually don't have enough to go to court so they usually settle outside of court of a couple thousand. They've been known to attack autobloggers. Careful guys
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    • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
      Thank you for sharing all those tips. I was only aware of a few of them so I will try and instigate more where possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    Stealing is never a good idea and will hurt your brand. That alone is a good reason not to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ip3
    imo if you can't think of something original(even though there are times you just can't) and or dont want to leave a link or state where you got your story from don't write about it!

    I always state where my articles/post come from if i didn't write them myself...
    if you dont then your are just asking for trouble..
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    • Profile picture of the author writeandreview
      This is great info. However, I think number 15 is misleading, at least in the U.S.A.

      If you are serious – Get your work copyrighted: You can copyright your website, its contents, images and text for only 35 USD at
      All of your work falls under copyright as soon as you create it. No need to pay for it.

      When is my work protected?
      Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

      Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
      No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Copyright Registration.”
      Ref: U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright in General (FAQ)

      Edited to say: It does appear that the gov site recommends that you register if you plan to sue. I think there have been cases where registration hasn't been necessary for the plaintiff to win.

      Edited once more to add: registering vs. not registering can mean the difference in collecting statutory damages and collecting only actual damages. Seems to me, that filing for copyright is entirely worth it, especially if your business depends on the uniqueness and originality of its content.
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    • Originally Posted by ip3 View Post

      imo if you can't think of something original(even though there are times you just can't) and or dont want to leave a link or state where you got your story from don't write about it!
      Lots of people will write original articles for you at a fairly cheap price, including a number of people on this forum.

      Also, most people will let you use their content so long as you provide the credit and linkback, so there is really no reason to steal content.
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      • Stealing content that others worked hard to create and produce is counterproductive in my opinion, and here is why I say this;
        1. I wouldn't feel good about myself
        2. It's not fair
        3. It doesn't do you any good because Google and SEs see that you are just reprinting a copy on your domain, which hurts your domain, and in turn hurts your business
        4. As time goes by the search engines (I believe) will be penalizing more and more of the domains that publish duplicate content. If I was a news agency that would be different, but I'm not
        Now. All ethical reasons aside, and only in technical relation;

        Fresh and 100% original content that you publish yourself is like crack cocaine to the search engines. It holds weight - it has value. Repeated content is like limp, 3-day old salad to the search engines. Why not be serious about your business and prosper.

        Besides, writing and typing is allot of fun. I would say that if you count the words I've typed in my gmail account, here on the Warrior forum, and the 4 posts I've written today totals easily over 6000 words. It's 1:53 now here in Calgary, and I'm done work at two.

        Work is on my couch at home. Learn to enjoy your writing and blogging and I promise you will grow an amazing online profit month after month.
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  • Profile picture of the author pizzatherapy
    First: thanks for the resource Sam770

    What is a splogger? What is splogging?

    Is that taking stuff from other people's websites and blog and posting it?
    Is that what the auto blogging software does?

    I have had content ripped off my site on a number of occasions. I've had my photos ripped off and used in ebay auctions to sell a similar product as mine. I've had portions of my sales letters ripped off (I didn't think it was that good...).

    I've even had my domain ripped off. For example http://mysite.com >> to http://mysite.com.au

    In each case (except the domain rip off) the first email I sent was ignored or they wrote back and siad: "I did'nt do anything wrong..."

    My next email was to inform them I was writing to their ISP. That got results very fast.

    There is so much free, valuable content out there, there is no reason to ever steal someone elses work. Never.



    For example:
    • Press Releases: People encourage you to post their press releases. It's good for the poster and good for the press release writer. I have a section of my websites, just devoted to press releases. I monetize by using adsense and other ads. I have links to my other pages and other sites.
    • Article sites and directories: Literally hundreds of thousands of free pages of content, just there for the taking. Of course you need to abide by their TOS by posting a resource box at the end of the article. But totally free and available for your website or blog.
    • Ask the creator: There are a number of times that people have asked to republish my content. I always say yes. And many times when I find a post that I like, I will contact the writer and ask permission to use the post. They always say yes as long as there is a link back to their site. Always.
    There is no reason to ever steal someone elses content. And if you do...sooner or later you will get banged...
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    • Originally Posted by pizzatherapy View Post

      First: thanks for the resource Sam770

      What is a splogger? What is splogging?

      Is that taking stuff from other peole and posting it?

      I have had ripped off my site on a number of occasions. I've had my photos ripped off and used in ebay auctions to sell a similar product as mine. I've had portions of my sales letters ripped off (I didn't think it was that good...).

      I've even had my domain ripped off. For example http://mysite.com >> to http://mysite.com.au

      In each case the first email I sent was ignored or they wrote back and siad: "I did'nt do anything wrong..."

      My next email was to inform them I was writing to their ISP. That got results very fast.

      There is so much free, valuable content out there, there is no reason to ever steal someone elses work. Never.

      For example:
      • Press Releases: People encourage you to post their press releases. It's good for the poster and good for the press release writer. I have a section of my websites, just devoted to press releases. I monetize by using adsense and other ads. I have links to my other pages and other sites.
      • Article sites and directories: Literally hundreds of thousands of free pages of content, just there for the taking. Of course you need to abide by their TOS by posting a resource box at the end of the article. But totally free and available for your website or blog.
      • Ask the creator: There are a number of times that people have asked to republish my content. I always say yes. And many times when I find a post that I like, I will contact the writier and ask permission to use the post. They always say yes as long as their is a link back to their site.
      There is no reason to ever steal someone elses content. And if you do...sooner or later you will get banged...
      A letter from your lawyer gets really quick results. Real lawyer, or "virtual attorney".
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneyerr
    Genius people don’t steal or copy contents of others. Those who have good writing skills only steal your idea and theme of your post and describe it in their own words to publish on their websites by their name. What can you do in this case?
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Moneyerr View Post

      Genius people don't steal or copy contents of others. Those who have good writing skills only steal your idea and theme of your post and describe it in their own words to publish on their websites by their name. What can you do in this case?
      Um........???

      I'm sorry - drink another cup of coffee and read what you just wrote.
      Just because several writers might cover the same subject area, doesn't mean they are "stealing" ideas. If they know their subject and have done real research on it, they are writing the information from their own perspective and for the purpose the material is meant to convey. Just because someone else has written on the same subject doesn't mean the writer ever even saw that material.

      Giving the indication that all good writers just re-write other people's stuff is just plain idiotic. Maybe that's the way that some do it - but you can put them just one rung up from the idiots who steal material.
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  • Profile picture of the author Promet Analyst
    it's always interesting to read "useful tips" about anything.. and this is one of those. Those are really "the best 15 methods on how to stop content theft" Thanks a lot SAM!!
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  • Profile picture of the author bateati
    I kind of feel like a dirt bag if I even think about stealing anyones content which is enough to prevent me from doing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    I've recently started searching for people ripping off my content. I've sent a bunch of DMCA notices, and it's fun getting someone's entire network of sites deleted because they stole your content. Stealing someone's work and then profiting from it is total BS. I don't feel bad for it at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author ip3
    BTW I just remembered i implemented something really nice to help with the copy/paste problem...
    its called tynt seo and every time someone copies something from your site to theirs it creates a back link automatically..

    tynt.com

    it is defiantly something to consider, and it even keeps track of the sites that keep the links up and shows you the traffic they generate for your site...

    Did i forget to mention its free!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author sirgeo
    I find it quite annoying when I do a search and see the same article rehashed all over the place. When I visit a decent looking site that I know just refurbished it, I never go there again.
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  • Profile picture of the author NateC
    If you can't wrote your own content then hire someone to do it, it is cheap. There is really no excuse for "sharing" someones content.
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    • Profile picture of the author sam770
      Originally Posted by masterjani View Post

      Stealing content won't work anymore in google
      did it work in the past? i dont really think so
      not on;y that stealing content will not help to rank higher on google, but it will most likely lead to a penalty by google
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  • Profile picture of the author fanimal
    Those two statements would be 100% right if life was fair. But it is not, stealing is not always punished and many times is rewarded. Fortunately the stealers are usually greedy enought to get caught
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    • Profile picture of the author friendclk
      Do Autoblogs count as stealing content?
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      • Profile picture of the author sam770
        Originally Posted by friendclk View Post

        Do Autoblogs count as stealing content?
        it depends on the way you set your autoblog software, if it simply grab posts (or paragraphs) from other blogs and paste it in your blog - then yes, it IS stealing
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