The Warrior Forum Is Full Of Nasty Evil Marketers?

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Over the last couple of days I've read a couple of comments that took me back a little bit.

They all had one thing in common - They made reference to new marketers and seasoned marketers alike being afraid to join in conversations and discussions for fear of being attacked on the forum?

Is this true?

Personally, I've never had this happen to me. Sure, I've been here for a year now, but in that time I am proud to say that I at one point in time asked some of the most newbie comments possible I was never attacked or treated with anything except for kindness or respect.

Sure, I've seen the occasional flare up where a thread gets out of hand, but that definitely isn't the rule, from what I've seen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    There is far more good information here than there is viciousness.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi Jenni,

        People get intimidated when they realise that X makes $000,000+ per year online and all kinds of jealous crap can come into play!
        Loads of people got jealous when they saw my screenshots of my $000,000 payday - but I think you'll find that X actually makes a lot more than that.
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        This is a fantastic forum and there are LOTS of smart people here contributing tons of great content. For the most part the noobs get polite answers to their questions and a tremendous amount of help from people that probably have a lot of other things they could be doing other than offering free help and advice.

        The times that I do see people being a little impolite (other than trolls and scammers) is when someone posts a rant without any kind of usefull lesson to be learned.

        I don't think that newbies should be afraid to post here but I would recommend spending a little time reading before they start posting. When I first discovered this forum I spent a LOT of time reading posts not only learning great tid bits of information but also learning how this forum operates.

        Some people get annoyed (and rightfully so IMO) when noobs come in and ask a question that they could have found the answer to if they had spent a minute or two reading the posts. But, overall I think newbies should not be afraid to participate in the forum. Many times, if someone does attack a noob other warriors will quickly come to their aid.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Davis
    I think this is one of the most polite forums I've come across.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McBride
    Jeremy,

    Those types of comments mainly come from two sources:

    1) The spammers and scammers and trolls who get caught and called out by other members, or;

    2) Newbies/newcomers who can't/don't/won't recognize that those being called out are spammers or scammers or trolls, and that it's for their benefit that these lowlifes are being called out.

    Sure, sometimes there are flare-ups simply due to a misunderstanding or, perhaps, a personality conflict, but in the majority of cases there is cause.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
      Originally Posted by Mike McBride View Post

      Sure, sometimes there are flare-ups simply due to a misunderstanding or, perhaps, a personality conflict, but in the majority of cases there is cause.
      This is very true. I myself was involved in one over the past couple of days, but now everything is sorted out. Hey, it happens, and when people have strong opinions it can lead to flare ups. Overall, like I said, there's a whole lot more positive than negative to be found here.

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    • Profile picture of the author thatgirlJ
      I have seen some very respected people attacked right along with the trolls...there are some nasty people here.

      The good news is...there are some phenomenal and amazing people as well. I can certainly understand the intimidation, however.

      I was probably nervous to post when I was new.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chiayee
        Originally Posted by Jenn Dize View Post

        I have seen some very respected people attacked right along with the trolls...there are some nasty people here.
        Jenn is right.

        I remember vividly few years back when I was newbie, I made a comment that people can sell text link on their site just like Text Link Ads. Back then it was such not a big issue with Google as it is now.

        Then, a respected member quote my post and said "only idiots do that". I don't want to name names, but he has a "guru" status here.

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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by Mike McBride View Post


      Those types of comments mainly come from two sources:

      1) The spammers and scammers and trolls who get caught and called out by other members, or;

      2) Newbies/newcomers who can't/don't/won't recognize that those being called out are spammers or scammers or trolls, and that it's for their benefit that these lowlifes are being called out.
      Yep.

      I seen one spammer/scammer that made a statement to someone with a wso as a piece of crap.., no real reason, no evidence, no empirical data, just said he thought his stuff was crap, that's all, don't take it personally if it ain't true.

      That killed any credibility he might have had.

      Also confirming his rep as a wso post hijacker. Lowlife.

      Only 2 post or so, go figure.

      Newbies defending crap products and producers, with statement like, "give him a chance", no evidence or empirical data to support their opinion , only "feelings"...."he's trying, give him a chance......."

      Newbie must learn the difference between something that is PROVEN to work vs something that is PROVEN crap, and call it out like it is.

      Unless Newbie has lots of cash to give away, in that case, I'll send you some crap to download and charge your paypal, afterall, "give me a chance, at least I'm trying."

      The 13 th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Jeremy,

    I've only been attacked once, over a period of a few weeks by a Warrior who doesn't come around here anymore.

    Except for the occasional stalker, I don't have any problems posting.

    But I (usually) only post what I have learned from hard data and statistical research. You know...the truth.

    As Mike said above, it's usually scammers, spammers and trolls that cause the problems.

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  • Profile picture of the author GoGetta
    Yeh, I think this is pne of the most polite and most helpful forums around. To be fair I like a little bit of conflict now and again and disagreements otherwise this forum would be fake, and the info inside of it would not be as gold as its made out!

    People are always going to disagree about things in life so if that happens here which to be fair has happened more recently I have noticed, it shows there is genuine passion on the forum and I for one like that!

    I am not condoning any attacks on people though by the way, but constructive cristicism and opinions make this forum what it is!

    Long may it live and prosper!

    There is sometimes a little intimidation with new members, I was once a little intimidated to post when I was brand new, but if yuo are passionate about what you do, speak up!

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    • Profile picture of the author Jenni Mac
      I think this place can be very intimidating and very cliche, but it's not surprising really. People are here trying to make money and understand the process of making money online and so there's desperation and frustration and down right jealousy!

      People get intimidated when they realise that X makes $000,000+ per year online and all kinds of jealous crap can come into play!

      And for all of the above reasons, I see that some tend to stick to the people they 'know'.

      Is it possible to break all that down and make a name for yourself here and get to sit at the top table? Hell yes!

      On a personal note, I work hard at staying away from the drama that often errupts here simply because I recognise this place as a place of business and I for one want to keep my business reputation in tact.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bob B
    What's the old saying, you can't please all of the people all of the time?

    Mostly it's great here. Even the posts that leave a bad taste are gone in a few days. Grown ups can take the occasional knock, the petulant kids don't hang around for long.

    Anyway, forums exist for people to express opinions. You should never be afraid to speak, even if you're the 1% against the 99.

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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      I not only posted questions, but I even PMed Warriors with questions...

      ....And got an overwhelmingly positive, helpful response.

      This forum is awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author write-stuff
    Yeah, I'm with Barry. All in all, this is one of the more polite forums I've been involved with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
    I've been a bit shocked at some of the threads in the last few days too, and certain respected marketers have shocked me by some of the things they've said. Maybe I'm just easily shocked :rolleyes:? I try to treat others as I'd like to be treated myself, and if there's nasty stuff going on I try to stay out of it.

    Otherwise the forum is great, and I've met some really nice people here. I can see why people might feel a bit intimidated when they first arrive though.
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  • Profile picture of the author admin
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    Originally Posted by p1a1u1l1 View Post

    The warrior forums has had bad rep for being hostile for a while,
    I do agree with Mike above.

    One reason this forum seems more hostile than others is because scammers
    & spammers are called out more often due to many experienced members
    recognizing an a-hole scammer when they see one. Members also look after
    each other more here so scammers are usually cooked alive in public.
    Which gives an impression of hostility & anger.

    Also when you have a forum with so many high caliber members, It can be
    intimidating to post because others have and share far more advanced
    knowledge than most of us. It almost seems pointless to post in there
    shadow IMO

    -paul

    It 'seems' that way, but thank God it only seems so. The truth is many fantastic ideas and new strategies come from people who haven't yet made more than $1000 a month.

    It happens because they are thinking...and talking. And sometimes they say something that makes certain ones watching 'click'...

    You would be surprised at where some of the most profitable things really came from...and just 'who' was watching and caught them.

    There are far too many people who think the more well known marketers have all the answers and all the ideas when they themselves are lurking and watching all over the Internet for new ideas.
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    • Profile picture of the author eddycole
      Originally Posted by admin View Post

      It 'seems' that way, but thank God it only seems so. The truth is many fantastic ideas and new strategies come from people who haven't yet made more than $1000 a month.

      It happens because they are thinking...and talking. And sometimes they say something that makes certain ones watching 'click'...

      You would be surprised at where some of the most profitable things really came from...and just 'who' was watching and caught them.

      There are far too many people who think the more well known marketers have all the answers and all the ideas when they themselves are lurking and watching all over the Internet for new ideas.

      decided to highlight that a little in case some people were too busy talking to listen

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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      I personally have always found this place to be very polite and friendly. That was even when I was asking the most obvious and "newbish" questions that I could think of.

      If this place wasn't what it is, I honestly don't believe that I would be where I am in my business today...which is sitting at home in my pajamas at 11 AM wondering what I will do after putting a couple of hours of work in.

      So for that, I thank everyone for making this place the most comprehensive and friendly resource I have yet to find online
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Will everybody please report that totally improper user name so we can have
      this person removed from the forum.

      Thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Will everybody please report that totally improper user name so we can have
        this person removed from the forum.

        Thank you.
        Gladly! How do you report a username?
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by Shay60654 View Post

          Gladly! How do you report a username?
          Fastest way is to report it to the help desk.
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            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Fastest way is to report it to the help desk.
            Done! It has been sent.
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      • Profile picture of the author joblythe
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Will everybody please report that totally improper user name so we can have
        this person removed from the forum.

        Thank you.
        Steven - that mindless person is what gives people the impression of the OP's title.

        What can you say??
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      • Profile picture of the author joblythe
        Originally Posted by p1a1u1l1 View Post

        Which one?


        -paul
        Paul - it is not one to repeat - but they are "thanking" people on this post.

        Let's hope "it" is gone soon!
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by p1a1u1l1 View Post

        Which one?





        -paul
        The one thanking adamv's post.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Pension Guy
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          The one thanking adamv's post.
          I hope it's not about me . I added my "thanks" to adamv's post because I fully agreed with him - he just was able to write it out much better than I ever could. And to be honest, I didn't even notice what was the other name in the box. However, I don't want to remove my name because my thank you to adamv is genuine...

          I am really new to this forum and, of course, I went around reading a few hours before posting anything. Isn't that the normal way when you join a new forum?

          When I finally decided to ask a question, I get an overwhelming amount of helpful and extremely useful advice. No condescending attitude from experienced warriors... or anything like that. On the contrary!
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      • Profile picture of the author MizzCindy
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Will everybody please report that totally improper user name so we can have
        this person removed from the forum.

        Thank you.
        Wasn't sure how to report an inappropriate ID with no active posts, so I opened a support ticket.

        Some people truly are gutless!

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  • Profile picture of the author THK
    Yes, it is true. I have seen people being attacked, even personally, for asking a simple question. I can point to atleast one recent thread, if that is not deleted yet, where a noob(not a scammer, spammer or a troll) was attacked personally for asking a simple question by a so called "respected" warrior. Then as usual, the other warriors came to the rescue and the thread got buried. This type of incident happens every now and then.

    There is a bright side of this type of threads. You can see the true colors of some people and pick the ones you don't want to deal with...ever.

    But make no mistake,in my opinion, out of all the free marketing forums this is one of the best, if not THE best. Besides the information available here, some really cool people hang out here. Once you get to know a few of them, you cannot help but love this place.

    Tanvir
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      I've been in the recording studio this morning laying down some new tracks
      as I am taking the day off from work, but I am now on my lunch break and
      seeing this thread, I thought I would add my 2 cents.

      The Warrior Forum is nothing more than a microcosm of the world we live in.

      The other day, my wife went to the store to get some things and there was
      a long line. Well, the lady in back of her was screaming and making a scene
      because the line was so long. She was complaining that it was too hot in
      the store and she was going to have a heart attack and on and on.

      In the meantime, I went to the store later on to get me a few things and
      the lady in front of me saw that I only had a few things and offered to let
      me go ahead of her as she had a whole shopping basket full of stuff.

      You are going to run into good and bad people anywhere you go. I guess
      what amazes me is that people actually expect that because this is the
      Warrior Forum that everybody here is going to play nice.

      News flash...I have been the personal whipping boy of several people since
      I got here. I've got a thick skin or I would have been gone on day 1 when
      I was practically run out of town.

      If you expect a Peter Pan world, you're going to be very disappointed. But
      if you realize that people are people and don't cower in your corner
      because you're afraid you'll get blasted by somebody, you'll do just fine.

      Focus on 2 things.

      1. Contributing to the forum so that others value your membership.
      2. Concentrate on the posts that help you and your business.

      The rest of it, as they say, is just BS.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
        OMG Waggers took a day off lol

        Seriously, Steve's hit it spot on the nail,

        There is a lot of fabulous knowledge to be had in this forum, and as far as I'm aware no-one begrudges sharing anything they know.

        BTW if you think the forum is intimidating now, you should have seen it when I joined up. (Paid membership then)

        Those were the golden years of the Warriors where people like John Reese etc posted on a regular basis. I was truly star struck lol

        Cheers
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        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        I've been in the recording studio this morning laying down some new tracks
        as I am taking the day off from work, but I am now on my lunch break and
        seeing this thread, I thought I would add my 2 cents.

        The Warrior Forum is nothing more than a microcosm of the world we live in.

        News flash...I have been the personal whipping boy of several people since

        If you expect a Peter Pan world, you're going to be very disappointed. But
        if you realize that people are people and don't cower in your corner
        because you're afraid you'll get blasted by so
        mebody, you'll do just fine.

        Focus on 2 things.

        1. Contributing to the forum so that others value your membership.
        2. Concentrate on the posts that help you and your business.

        The rest of it, as they say, is just BS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony Smith
    I can't remember the last time i read a post that was malevolent or evil, everyone here is like jesus, it's incredible. Everyone here is truly helpful and genuinely wants you to succeed. It really does motivate you, and make you more sure of yourself. If it wasn't for WF, i don't know where i would be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Ambrose
    I registered here early last month and can honestly say I have never been part of a community of people so inspiring, helpful, and knowledgable about the work they are involved in. Ever.

    The only downside (if you can call it that) as that since joining, I have suffered a tremendous lack of sleep because I find myself on here all the time!

    Sure I see the odd "attack" of a post, when someone disagrees - but that's only natural in such a thriving forum.

    However I also see that if a PERSON is attacked, that's when we as a community seem to come together and help the victim.

    Again - It's the way it should be.

    Many marketers on here have been here for a long time and have built up respect and reputation. They deserve to be helped when wronged.

    I have fallen in love with this forum and have made some amazing new friends in such a short space of time.

    Long may it continue!
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Just wondering...

    What exactly is a troll?

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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by p1a1u1l1 View Post

    Also when you have a forum with so many high caliber members, It can be
    intimidating to post because others have and share far more advanced
    knowledge than most of us. It almost seems pointless to post in there
    shadow IMO.
    I must admit that I'm a bit perplexed by the recent accusations of viciousness at the forum. Maybe I've just missed those threads.

    Whilst I would never condone abusive behaviour, I actually welcome threads that stir up, shall we say "lively debate".

    If all parties refrain from outright name-calling, but just concentrate on the argument, there's much to learn from those both participating and merely lurking.

    Even great posts by seasoned and respected Warriors shouldn't be seen as "sermons" but rather as a springboard for your own thoughts and ideas.

    And if a point is unclear or seems wrong to you, please don't be afraid to post about it. Your question or observation can often serve to move the debate into more interesting areas or at the least, coax more experienced Warriors to elaborate on their thoughts.

    We can all learn just as much from a Warrior's response to being honestly questioned as we can from his/her pearls of wisdom.

    And anyway, sticks and stones etc.


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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    Well, i think this forum is much polite compare to other forum
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Joining a new forum is like when you were a kid and joined a new school.

      At first, you don't know anybody and it's intimidating. You're careful what you say because you don't want the other kids to laugh at you. Then, little by little, you get to know people and develop relationships and join in conversations. In time, you become part of the community and feel like you've been there forever.

      This forum is better than the school experience. The people here are much more friendly and helpful than any school I've ever been too.

      Writing about this reminded me of something somebody once told me about university.

      You spend your second year trying to get rid of the friends you made in the first year.


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      • Profile picture of the author bombdiggity
        I haven't experienced anything like that. The majority of the people on this forum are very polite, and I'm glad to be apart of such a community. One of the things that I've learned, and this goes for the entire internet in general, is that you usually have to have a thick skin while browsing the web. Nobody's going to mollycoddle you, and people can be very blunt when it comes to getting their point across.

        Bluntness often gets mistaken for rudeness. I've even seen people equate bluntness with rudeness, and I really don't think that's the case at all. When marketers are blunt, they're just getting to the point of the matter at hand because they don't want to waste their time, and believe it or not, they don't want to waste your time either.

        Then there are the trolls and such, but that's a different story altogether.
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  • Profile picture of the author MizzCindy
    This forum has been a wonderful resource for me - both professionally and personally! Being a member here brings countless benefits.

    However, there are those who make a point of attacking others needlessly - especially if they believe it will somehow elevate their own status as an authority or expert. There are also those mindless folks who will fall for it. A little common sense can go a long way in these situations.

    As with many things in life, the Warrior Forum is what you make of it. For every person who is lurking due to feeling fearful or not wanting to look silly, I say this: just jump in and make yourself at home! The benefits far outweigh the risks!

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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Campbell
    Been on for 2 months and everyone has been cool and the only time I see anger is when someone is spamming outright.

    It takes a while when you're new but you'll find even newbies can have something useful to add.

    I've seen one forum where they actually warn you before you join that the people will be nasty and and moved on right away.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      People make fun of me because I have no hair. I HATE this forum. It is a mean place, a mean place I tell you.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Joe,

      I've seen one forum where they actually warn you before you join that the people will be nasty and and moved on right away.
      Great. Where's that one? It sounds right up my street

      Hi Thomas,

      People make fun of me because I have no hair.
      Well they did warn you that if you didn't stop doing it...

      Besides, shouldn't you be at work? The ticket lady isn't going to be able to deal with all the drunken punters on her own - she needs doormen!

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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        You want evil? This is evil:


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        • Profile picture of the author Joanne Greco
          I've only been at this forum a short while but so far, it's been all good. Everyone that I have dealt with (either in a thread or PM) has been very nice and respectful.

          I've been on message boards for about 10 years now and run a few myself, so I've seem my fair share of trolls, spammers and all around immature idiots. I have no problem putting them in their place and I don't back down when someone calls me out, either online or offline. It's the Brooklyn in me, I guess. lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post


        Hi Thomas,

        Well they did warn you that if you didn't stop doing it...



        Damn, I agreed to the blindness thing but didn't know about the hair loss.
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        • Profile picture of the author ExRat
          Hi Thomas,

          Well neither of those issues has afflicted me yet. I'll keep testing to see if I can disprove the theory.
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        • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
          Originally Posted by ExRat View Post


          Well they did warn you that if you didn't stop doing it...

          Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post


          Damn, I agreed to the blindness thing but didn't know about the hair loss.
          A father pulls his son to the side and tells him he needs to talk to him.

          Father explains that the act will make him blind and that does he have anything to say.



          The son says, "Dad...., I'm over here......"

          The 13 th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author Topgunb
    Like with everything in life, you get the good the bad and the ugly,

    But as warriors, you should eat the meat and spit out the bones

    or eat the fruit and spit out the stone

    Take the good!

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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi topgunb,

      But as warriors, you should eat the meat and spit out the bones

      or eat the fruit and spit out the stone
      Real warriors suck out the marrow, crunch up the bones and then gargle on the shards. That'll have 'em quaking...
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyCamden
    Of all the forums that I log onto, this one is the best. Full of great information with people that want to help. Long live the Warrior Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    In my other life, I am fearless. I'm the girl working the room, counting business cards in the coat room later. I write and talk for a living. I have lived in a major metropolitan area and I have a thick skin, BUT..

    It took me a looong time to get up the guts to write my first few posts because this place looked big and scary. It seemed that everyone knew everyone except me. I watched the guy who joined on the same day zoom to 500 + posts in our first month. I didn't figure I could contribute with my puny knowledge, so I concentrated on reading, watching forum posts and researching for my own.

    Now, I just jump in. Every so often I see that someone forgets to do a self-edit before hitting the 'reply' button, but hey. I stay away from that thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author P_Cerrito
    Hey ya'll. I have to somewhat agree with some of the posts above. I too was a little shy at first. Then I realized- nobody knows it all. Sometimes I will drop a subtle hint, sometimes leave a chunk, and sometimes I might even learn something from someone else's ideas- including newbies. I think everyone has something to offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Jeremy,
    They all had one thing in common - They made reference to new marketers and seasoned marketers alike being afraid to join in conversations and discussions for fear of being attacked on the forum?

    Is this true?
    Absolutely. There have always been people who've been afraid to join in conversations because of that. On just about any forum you'll find.

    For some, it's because they have very different definitions of "attack." Any direct criticism or correction of an idea is perceived as a personal affront.

    For some, it's a matter of taste. They don't object so much to criticism as to the style in which it's delivered.

    For some, it's because they've seen people "attacked" and didn't understand how to be sure their own behavior wouldn't draw the same response. This is a very understandable confusion on the part of someone new to online discussions.

    The vast majority of the perceived "attacks" are nothing like serious. They're seen as brutal by people who are more interested in approval than truth, or whose backgrounds have led them to associate strong disagreement with the potential for more serious abusive behavior.

    There are some instances of people being outright attacked, as far as that word can be applied to strictly text-based discussions.

    Those are fairly uncommon. They're usually either senior people responding to something seriously wrong, or random idiots venting their ignorance. You can't do anything to avoid the latter, so it's pointless to hide from it. The former is something that won't affect you unless you're being malicious or otherwise destructive.


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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Bogowski
    Shut Up Jeremy!!!

    Im sick of you asking stupid questions... Go back to the valley man!!!

    All jokes of course!
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    • Profile picture of the author zerofill
      Originally Posted by Mike Benkovich View Post

      Shut Up Jeremy!!!

      Im sick of you asking stupid questions... Go back to the valley man!!!

      All jokes of course!
      Blah I tell him to shut up daily and he doesn't listen...
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeCollins
    This is THE best forum I've ever seen or heard of. The wealth of knowledge shared here on a daily basis is astounding and 99.9% of Warriors are helpful, friendly, and have the best of intentions.

    I remember when I first joined I could barely even follow most discussions...I didn't know what the heck anyone was talking about! But I don't remember ever being looked down on for being a newbie. There were always lots of helpful Warriors to help point me in the right direction. Let's hope that never changes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

    Over the last couple of days I've read a couple of comments that took me back a little bit.

    They all had one thing in common - They made reference to new marketers and seasoned marketers alike being afraid to join in conversations and discussions for fear of being attacked on the forum?

    Is this true?

    Personally, I've never had this happen to me. Sure, I've been here for a year now, but in that time I am proud to say that I at one point in time asked some of the most newbie comments possible I was never attacked or treated with anything except for kindness or respect.

    Sure, I've seen the occasional flare up where a thread gets out of hand, but that definitely isn't the rule, from what I've seen.
    Only if it's obvious you're a scam artist. Then we chop off the head, and present it as a sacrifice to the monkey god for head shrinking.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Kenzington
      This is one of the most civil of the forums I belong to. For the most part, we are one big happy family. Yes, sometimes we have to put a "Crazy Uncle Joe" up in the attic (for his own protection), but usually everyone is on their best behavior.

      Now, I have been (on a few rare occasions) known to get a bit "Surly" with some trolls and trouble makers, but for the most part, I'm a warm, cuddly teddy bear .

      When I first came to the WF, I registered under a nick name. Being known as someone who jumps right in, I saw a post where a guy was trying to sell phone service on a regular thread, and a Mod gave him "What for". His offer sucked!

      I had just bought a "Magic Jack" and posted a reply about what a great deal it was, especially compared to the other guys offer. Magic Jack doesn't have an affiliate plan, or anything, so I thought I was OK in telling the fellow Warriors of what a great way to save some money, and I thought I was providing a good bit of useful info. (I was just trying to be helpful) I got slapped! HARD! And was told to get my act in gear or that first post might be my last.

      So, I licked my wounds and started lurking and reading. I learned how the forum worked. What was acceptable and what wasn't. I came back and registered under my own name and started again. The rest is internet history .

      Seriously, this is just like school. You've got your "A" students, your struggling students, class clowns (with my hand waving wildly in the air) and the rest. We are all here to learn, and sometimes take the role of "teacher", too.

      For the newbie, read some posts to see if your question has already been answered. Check the "Search" option. If you don't find your answer, ask. We see some of the simplest questions asked all the time. Yet, when we were first starting out, those same questions were the "meat & potatoes" answers we needed to fill in the missing puzzle pieces.

      We won't bite your head off. (we may gnaw you around the ears a little ) But, we are all here to learn.

      The Warrior Forum is a Friendly Place!

      So, let's play nice and all make a boat-load of money!

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  • Profile picture of the author Ben_Curtis
    This forum has been an invaluable source of (late night) information, article topics, and marketing ideas FOR FREE for me, and I want to shout out a big THANKS to all who share so generously.
    Regards~
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Heusman
    It only takes a couple of bad apples to create a bad vibe. You just have to learn to filter it out and see all of the good people here. Filter out the bad, pay attention to the good. Out with the bad, in with the good.

    Repeat with me now...
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      Can I start a sorry thread again, can I, can I pleeeaase
      Have you been frightening newbies again, Kim?

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        Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

        Have you been frightening newbies again, Kim?

        Martin
        It is a hobby. I can see Kim, with her evil laugh, playing with newbies while she is sipping hot tea and eating little chocolates.
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
          There are a few "Bulls" on the forum to keep 'em in line, but that's not a problem.

          The quality of a persons response to the "flame" is a excellent gauge of someones character, provides insight, and worth studying.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      Can I start a sorry thread again, can I, can I pleeeaase
      Sure! Go ahead!





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  • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
    Most that I've come across on here are decent folk, but if I came across one of those nasty evil marketers I wouldn't do business with them. So the way that I figure it is that if they show themselves for what they are then they will lose credibility and business so they harm themselves more than others.
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  • Profile picture of the author carmene
    I truly love this forum. It's a small sample of our world population so people will disagree and have arguments.

    I'm pretty new here and sometimes I feel the heat, but I'm never intidated to ask one of my foolish questions or make a comment. It's a matter of one's self confidence.

    So what if I say something that someone doesn't like! That happens in real life too.

    Guys, just get over yourselves! I've learned so much here, I am truly grateful to all here!
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Songster
    Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

    Over the last couple of days I've read a couple of comments that took me back a little bit.

    They all had one thing in common - They made reference to new marketers and seasoned marketers alike being afraid to join in conversations and discussions for fear of being attacked on the forum?

    Is this true?

    Personally, I've never had this happen to me. Sure, I've been here for a year now, but in that time I am proud to say that I at one point in time asked some of the most newbie comments possible I was never attacked or treated with anything except for kindness or respect.

    Sure, I've seen the occasional flare up where a thread gets out of hand, but that definitely isn't the rule, from what I've seen.
    I've seen some nasty stuff flying around. I have thick skin so it doesn't bother me but one day I was reading a particular thread and happened to be on instant messenger with my tech and sent the link over to her to read.
    Her come back was "dayumn these people have a lot of holier than though attitudes!"
    She doesn't participate on the Warrior Forum (I keep her too busy - lol) but I thought her reaction was interesting.
    That was from an outsider, looking in.

    On the plus side, I've made some wonderful contacts here. "Met" some terrific people. People PM their comments to me - perhaps they are too intimidated to post them.
    Don't know if any of you remember the guy who (a newbie) was looking for a shopping cart solution to get some product listed for Christmas? I let him add his stuff to one of my stores (so I'm going to do a shameless plug for his stuff right now - Check out his wraps from Nepal - Just beautiful!)

    Ok enough of that. Bottom line. You get all kinds here and by reading people's posts you get a feel for what type of person they are (guru or newbie). Some of the members are pretty entertaining too!

    As far as forums go. This one is the "kindest" I've found. I've been to plenty containing so called professionals (non IM niche) that just spit venom and are nasty as hell.
    I'll stay here thanks...

    By the way, Jeremy. I joined your WSO coaching sessions - well done. I like the material you presented. I've learned some new stuff!
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