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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

these sites contain LOADS of Grammatical errors and spelling mistakes

Yes. I agree

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Please excuse my Rant

It has come to my recent attention That everyone is Buying Links , usually these sites contain LOADS of Grammatical errors and spelling mistakes and usually full of Ads , (Adsense Farms.) Every day ALL of my website are getting over taken Buy some crap websites that has brought Links. My Traffic has dropped By 50.% , because of people buying Links. It annoys me loads , and Google seem to does nothing. Not even suspend their Adesnse Accounts. Is their a report Button some where , because I would have a field day.

Excuse my Rant , but this is ruining the Web. It should be GOOD CONTENT THAT IS #1

My conclusion is that Google needs to stop relying to Much on Backlinks , and people need to stop using Black hat SEO.

Easier said than done. Google is one company trying to stave off armies of content generators.

Tons of sites get manual reviews and deindexed. What other way is there.

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14 years ago

Sounds like you need to get in the market of selling links...

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14 years ago

The irony here is astounding.

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Jonathan Mizel

14 years ago

You are trying to get G to send you free traffic by manipulating their index, and yet you are angry when others do the same using a different technique. Not to mention the typo in the subject line.

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jonathan Mizel

You are trying to get G to send you free traffic by manipulating their index, and yet you are angry when others do the same using a different technique. Not to mention the typo in the subject line.

How am I manipulating the index? I don't understand your post. I corrected the title , Thanks.

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Bekah Howard 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jonathan Mizel

Not to mention the typo in the subject line.

There are also several spelling and grammatical errors in the post itself.
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  The only 'white hat' methods are having such amazing and unique content that people start linking back to you site naturally and that isn't exactly something that happens quickly. All backlinking is what some people may call b.l.a.c.k hat because you're trying to fiddle a ranking system. Your competitors are simply fiddling it better than you are.
  
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paulie888

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jonathan Mizel

You are trying to get G to send you free traffic by manipulating their index, and yet you are angry when others do the same using a different technique. Not to mention the typo in the subject line.

It's sort of like the pot calling the kettle black. Practice what you preach, if you're wanting to air a rant about it in here.

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Jonathan Mizel

14 years ago

You are using SEO to get good ranking, right? White hat or black hat, it's all manipulation (not necessarily a bad word).

Stop complaining, Google owes you nothing. Start buying ads and see if you can make something scalable work. That way you might actually be able to build a real business.

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Hey...

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brenda ashford

14 years ago

getting fed up is not a solution,you have to find new ways of making your website rank again.get to work now.

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uleesgold

Banned 14 years ago

Ugly web sites should not be against the law, I believe in freedom of speech.

But I understand you probably weren't implying that.

:-)

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Karen Blundell 14 years ago

dump the Adsense and sell links from your site. Be very picky about what niches you will allow to advertise on your site. When you do it this way, you're in control
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14 years ago

business means something very serious and I think Google is in that very line.
It takes time and absolute "know how" to make it online.

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TBInternetMarketing

14 years ago

Why don't you match their backlinks and also provide top notch quality content? That should put you above them?

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

Stop saying about the spelling mistakes , i'm not righting a post for my website. Secondly their isn't any? I just checked it. Sometimes , I just get annoyed when this happens ; it seems more and more people seem to do it.

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Ken Belanger

14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Stop saying about the spelling mistakes , i'm not righting a post for my website. Secondly their isn't any? I just checked it. Sometimes , I just get annoyed when this happens ; it seems more and more people seem to do it.

righting...? = Writing! lol

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Stop saying about the spelling mistakes , i'm not righting a post for my website. Secondly their isn't any? I just checked it. Sometimes , I just get annoyed when this happens ; it seems more and more people seem to do it.

righting is supposed to be writing
i'm is supposed to I'm
their isn't any is supposed to be there isn't any

Pot calling kettle black if this is the way you write your websites. As for not liking how Google ranks sites, take it up with Google. I'm sure they'll be happy to listen.

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James Clark 14 years ago

Why don't you listen to what Jonathan is telling you and stop crying about Google. I haven't spent one day working or thinking about what Google is doing, and 60% of my traffic is coming from them and the balance is coming from the other search engines.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

righting is supposed to be writing
i'm is supposed to I'm
their isn't any is supposed to be there isn't any

Pot calling kettle black if this is the way you write your websites. As for not liking how Google ranks sites, take it up with Google. I'm sure they'll be happy to listen.

Their isn't any should probably actually be there aren't any. If you want to really get picky you probably shouldn't be using contractions anyway.

LOL, not criticizing you, just pointing out that it was too full of fail to begin with.

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Bekah Howard

14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Stop saying about the spelling mistakes , i'm not righting a post for my website. Secondly their isn't any? I just checked it. Sometimes , I just get annoyed when this happens ; it seems more and more people seem to do it.

This is just a quick look through at the spelling and grammatical errors in your post. I may have missed some, but I think this is plenty to point out that there are actually errors.

Anything in blue is a change I made, and anything in italics is what I replaced.

Please excuse my Rant

It has come to my recent attention that everyone is buying links(no space needed here),("." Not ",") Usually these sites contain LOADS of grammatical errors and spelling mistakes and are usually full of Ads ,(no "," needed here) (Adsense Farms). Every day ALL of my website are getting over taken overtaken Buy by some crap websites that has have brought bought links. My traffic has dropped By 50.% , because of people buying links. It annoys me loads(no space needed here), and Google doesn't seem to does do nothing anything. ).("," Not ".") not even suspend their Adesnse Adsense Accounts. Is their there a report button some where somewhere(no space needed here), because I would have a field day.

Excuse my Rant , but this is ruining the Web. It should be GOOD CONTENT THAT IS #1

My conclusion is that Google needs to stop relying to too much on backlinks(no space needed here), and people need to stop using Black hat SEO.

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

i'm not righting a post for my website.

That's true. You're writing one to establish credibility and status among your colleagues.

If you're this disinterested in what we think of you, chances are your website is a piece of absolute crap, because you can't possibly value your prospects and customers very much either.

This is the internet. Anyone can find you. Everyone is watching.

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

Guys , I'm not here to talk about my spelling. Just read the context of this post.

You're trolls. So you're supporting Black Hat SEO?

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Guys , I'm not here to talk about my spelling. Just read the context of this post.

You're trolls. So you're supporting Black Hat SEO?

Dude ... you're no better than the rest. I went to the first site in your sig. It is, as I anticipated, full of misspelled words and grammatical errors. It is also purely a made for adsense site.

This entire rant is due to the fact that other equally low quality sites are outranking you. Get over it or do something about it.

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Dude ... you're no better than the rest. I went to the first site in your sig. It is, as I anticipated, full of misspelled words and grammatical errors. It is also purely a made for adsense site.

This entire rant is due to the fact that other equally low quality sites are outranking you. Get over it or do something about it.

Get a Life. How is it made for Ad sense? How am I supposed to monetize it?

Says a Person with a misspelt WSO. Nice one.

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Mike Hlatky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Guys , I'm not here to talk about my spelling. Just read the context of this post.

You're trolls. So you're supporting Black Hat SEO?

I don't think you see the irony.

You are arguing in favor of great content only, but your "righting" is not so great.

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky

I don't think you see the irony.

You are arguing in favor of great content only, but your "righting" is not so great.

When I write I often make mistakes , probably more than you. Usually I check it through twice , But I only do this for my website's , Essays and so on. Not a Forum.

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

When I write I often make mistakes , probably more than you. Usually I check it through twice , But I only do this for my website's , Essays and so on. Not a Forum.

The point is
if you are going to play at being the grammar police, as your opening post indicated, you should have a better grip on grammar yourself.

Building backlinks naturally? Exactly what is that? The only real way to build backlinks naturally is to create content so good that people naturally backlink to it.

And in case you aren't aware, when you start a thread, people will respond and may call you out on your position and state their own position. That's what a discussion is all about ... as you've already seen in this thread, some will not agree with you.

:p

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The point is
if you are going to play at being the grammar police, as your opening post indicated, you should have a better grip on grammar yourself.

Building backlinks naturally? Exactly what is that? The only real way to build backlinks naturally is to create content so good that people naturally backlink to it.

And in case you aren't aware, when you start a thread, people will respond and may call you out on your position and state their own position. That's what a discussion is all about ... as you've already seen in this thread, some will not agree with you.

:p

Says the person who in retaliation Gave me an infraction. I'm entitled to give someone an infraction if needs be. Secondly you seem to have allot of infraction from insulting other members. You didn't show that did you? Nice one.

Theirs two pages of it!

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Says the person who in retaliation Gave me an infraction. I'm entitled to give someone an infraction if needs be. Secondly you seem to have allot of infraction from insulting other members. You didn't show that did you? Nice one.

Theirs two pages of it!

I did not give you an infraction. They are a waste of time. Try not to be a child when you start threads ... ok? As for my infractions ... they were all by idiots who think that disagreeing with someone is a reportable offense. As you can see, most were reversed and most were double infractions by idiots who think two is better than one. But it's of no consequence, as infractions do nothing. They are meaningless.

But back to the topic. I'm very interested in your views on natural backlinking and you didn't answer the question. What exactly do you consider natural backlinking?

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

I did not give you an infraction. They are a waste of time. Try not to be a child when you start threads ... ok? As for my infractions ... they were all by idiots who think that disagreeing with someone is a reportable offense. As you can see, most were reversed and most were double infractions by idiots who think two is better than one. But it's of no consequence, as infractions do nothing. They are meaningless.

But back to the topic. I'm very interested in your views on natural backlinking and you didn't answer the question. What exactly do you consider natural backlinking?

By Natural I mean without the user creating Back links them selves. A person likes the content and Links to the website from their Blog/Website/Twitter/Fb

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Originally Posted by simplybeastz

By Natural I mean without the user creating Back links them selves. A person likes the content and Links to the website from their Blog/Website/Twitter/Fb

That's exactly what natural backlinking is. If that's not happening with your site, you can give up or play the game like your competitors. There are plenty of ways to gain backlinks without spamming or using Black Hat techniques.

1. Make natural, relevant comments on related blogs.
2. Use social bookmarking
3. Create sites to link to your money site on free platforms like ... well, all those free platforms.

If you've got $5 to spend, these things can be done using Fiverr.
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mattlaclear

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

I did not give you an infraction. They are a waste of time. Try not to be a child when you start threads ... ok? As for my infractions ... they were all by idiots who think that disagreeing with someone is a reportable offense. As you can see, most were reversed and most were double infractions by idiots who think two is better than one. But it's of no consequence, as infractions do nothing. They are meaningless.

But back to the topic. I'm very interested in your views on natural backlinking and you didn't answer the question. What exactly do you consider natural backlinking?

Anybody worth their weight in salt here has their share of infractions. Some dude gave me 3 of them the other day! He went through all my posts looking for instances in which I called someone a "knucklehead" or a bozo" and gave me an infraction for each one. I guess I could open a ticket and see if the mods can delete them for me but who has time for that sort of thing?

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Says the person who in retaliation Gave me an infraction.

You've never had an infraction. From anyone. Ever.

Secondly you seem to have allot of infraction from insulting other members.

Both Suzanne and I tend to get an infraction about every six months, on the average.

This is largely because when a site is a piece of crap, we say "what a piece of crap" instead of trying to protect your precious self esteem.

If you just want your cane stroked, go show the site to your stupid little friends who don't know diddly-bupkus about internet marketing.

EDIT: Just in case people can't be bothered to check my profile, here's a public service announcement from our OP.

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

I'm not as experienced as you , I've just started and thus may websites may need a bit of work , But I'm happy with them. I learn from my mistakes and try to implement them into my work ; Now I know I have to read through my articles more than once. See , I'm learning-No spelling mistakes in this Paragraph?

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CDarklock 14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

I'm not as experienced as you

I don't really see it as a question of experience.

What I see here is that you have a site which isn't ranking as high as you'd like. And you think the way other sites rank highly isn't fair.

I happen to agree on that. But that's only half the question. The rest of the question is, does your site deserve to rank highly?

Forget what other people are doing. You can't control them. All you can control is you.

The idea behind Google - or any search engine - is to deliver the best possible results to people who are searching. So if your site isn't up on the top of the rankings, it's because you're not the best possible result.

You might think other people aren't as good as you, but what you think doesn't matter. It's what Google thinks that matters, when it comes to search rankings.

So the question is, do you really want search rankings... or do you actually want something else?

Most people have this idea that ranking = traffic = money. But that's not entirely true. You can have a high ranking and still get no traffic. You can have a lot of traffic and still make no money. So if you spend too much time worrying about the ranking when it's not really what you want, you're just wasting time.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

I'm not as experienced as you , I've just started and thus may websites may need a bit of work , But I'm happy with them. I learn from my mistakes and try to implement them into my work ; Now I know I have to read through my articles more than once. See , I'm learning-No spelling mistakes in this Paragraph?

You're wrong, again!(may websites)?
Your punctuation and grammar are all over the place
and you've got the cheek to advertise your writing
services on Fiverr......do me a favour.

Your attitude and approach absolutely suck,so it
comes as no surprise that your sites are being
outranked by others.

At the very least you could show some respect to
the other members on this forum,who have been here
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sbucciarel Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

EDIT: Just in case people can't be bothered to check my profile, here's a public service announcement from our OP.

lol ... looks like the infraction fairy struck again. What a busy little beaver
The infraction reversal fairy also stopped by
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Terry Hatfield

14 years ago

Was good content ever #1? I don't think so.

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NickBuzz

14 years ago

Believe it or not, Google and Facebook have millions of backlinks pointing to them and that is why they are the top websites in the World. I don't think this will ever change.

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NateC

14 years ago

So if they are looking at content and links you can't do great on one and expect that you can ignore the other. Most of these sites have horrible links even though they may have thousands of them.

You have done the quality content, now do QUALITY LINKS and you will outrank your competition again... That is the operative word... COMPETITION. You have to learn how to do it better not sit and complain that you are getting pummeled.

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BarryOnline

14 years ago

The grammar & spelling police sure got to work in this thread!

If you're sites are being out ranked & it's angering you, use that energy as motivation to fight back.

Competition is something you need to face & deal with. Make sure your on page SEO is bang on, get out there & build as many back links as you need to beat the competition, or at least rank close to them.

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Sam31

14 years ago

Not to beat a dead horse here but really everyone is trying to game Google to some extent. Personally, I'm not a fan of buying backlinks but according to you it seems to be working for your competitors.

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Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

My conclusion is that Google needs to stop relying to Much on Backlinks , and people need to stop using Black hat SEO.

Or, you could stop being ay whynee babee.

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

Why are you all having a fit , Over my spelling and a couple of Grammatical errors ; I'm only Human and didn't have much time to write this before I had to go out. More over you seem to be concentrating more on some of errors than the context of this post. Does the Title say" Please focus on my errors and Be a Troll?" No , It doesn't.

So for next time focus on the contextual meaning of the post and not to focus on other peoples mistakes , as you may/not know how long they had to write a post , which was not for the in due discussion about a couple of spelling mistakes I made , On a FORUM.

Whats more I know the Grammar Police would be out , they get so worked up ; when some one makes a Mistakes , I'm only Human and this wasn't supposed to be 12 Page essay-Of which I would spend allot Longer correcting and reading through.

Please don't Troll , Get a Life.

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simplybeastz 14 years ago

Oh , and some of you are providing some helpful tips. Thank you for that.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Why are you all having a fit , Over my spelling and a couple of Grammatical errors ; I'm only Human and didn't have much time to write this before I had to go out. More over you seem to be concentrating more on some of errors than the context of this post. Does the Title say" Please focus on my errors and Be a Troll?" No , It doesn't.

You were the one who started it by complaining about the grammatical and spelling errors and the bad content in high-ranking sites. If you complain about other people's bad writing, what do you expect? Your writing is full of errors. Every sentence you write has a mistake in it. Try improving your own writing before you go off on a rant about grammar.

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Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Why are you all having a fit , Over my spelling and a couple of Grammatical errors ; I'm only Human and didn't have much time to write this before I had to go out. More over you seem to be concentrating more on some of errors than the context of this post. Does the Title say" Please focus on my errors and Be a Troll?" No , It doesn't.

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

usually these sites contain LOADS of Grammatical errors and spelling mistakes

Actually, we aren't trolls. Irony amuses us. You opened the thread bashing poor spelling and grammar skills among other things and then proceed to write like a 4th grader.

Your rant is also nonsense. The thread serves no useful purpose to anyone. You don't like Google's method of ranking sites or people using those methods to rank their sites.

I'd say you're the one who needs to get a life.

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Ducksauce

14 years ago

these sites contain LOADS of Grammatical errors and spelling mistakes
OK, Grammar mistakes on high ranking sites annoy me, but don't get up set between Traditional British which is the most common English used in the world, and American English, I don't say it is wrong, fone /phone, bank cheque / bank check, mum / mom etc I use both for my local market I am aiming at. figjam.co.uk, figjam.ca, figjam.com.au I use British English, I use Yank English the most to be honest as most of my sites are .com or .net aiming and a non general country. Sometime I even write in Eng-rish for Asian targets.

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MikeFriedman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

It should be GOOD CONTENT THAT IS #1

And who says your content is any good?

And secondly, if you have ever built a single backlink to your own website, you are also supporting Black Hat SEO.

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Richard Van 14 years ago

Call me a pessimist but I can see this thread getting nuked soon.
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Paxton

14 years ago

Two choices:

1. Accept the fact that for the time being at least, link building is necessary to get pages to rank.

2. Don't accept that and wait for super-high quality content to attract links naturally

Personally, I'll keep building links.

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simplybeastz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paxton

Two choices:

1. Accept the fact that for the time being at least, link building is necessary to get pages to rank.

2. Don't accept that and wait for super-high quality content to attract links naturally

Personally, I'll keep building links.

I don't mind people that Build Links naturally, That's MORE THAN FINE. I Just find it bad and annoying when people BUY links.

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MikeFriedman 14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

I don't mind people that Build Links naturally, That's MORE THAN FINE. I Just find it bad and annoying when people BUY links.

Please define for me what building links naturally is.
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RightGood10

14 years ago

Yep googles results are simply the same as any other aspect of life, the rich get privileges and the poor get done over, so if you have tons of money to buy links and and pay for thousands of false links here and there then you will get good rankings. I foyu can't afford to buy loads of links from the internet slaves in the third world then you won't get good rankings. Nice huh !

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TG12

14 years ago

Love it! lol

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Richy Burns

14 years ago

Dont take this the wrong way but if you cant beat em then join him. It mite go against your ethics to a degree, but this IS business right? Another thing. If you already have a well optimised site with good content, then buying a couple of links would easliy see you climb above your competition as you are fighting with a double threat, quality and quantity.

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annasusmiles

14 years ago

You probably lost that much traffic because of the Panda update. A ton of people after Feb 24 and some again after early/mid April.

The update was meant to hurt those content farms. But, it has actually hurt alot of excellent content sites.

It's very unforunate. I'm really sorry you were caught in the crossfire!

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FerdinandF

14 years ago

At the end of the day, if your content is really good, you will get the traffic and you will get following.

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mattlaclear

14 years ago

Originally Posted by simplybeastz

Please excuse my Rant

It has come to my recent attention That everyone is Buying Links , usually these sites contain LOADS of Grammatical errors and spelling mistakes and usually full of Ads , (Adsense Farms.) Every day ALL of my website are getting over taken Buy some crap websites that has brought Links. My Traffic has dropped By 50.% , because of people buying Links. It annoys me loads , and Google seem to does nothing. Not even suspend their Adesnse Accounts. Is their a report Button some where , because I would have a field day.

Excuse my Rant , but this is ruining the Web. It should be GOOD CONTENT THAT IS #1

My conclusion is that Google needs to stop relying to Much on Backlinks , and people need to stop using Black hat SEO.

It looks to me like your rant is little more than an attempt to draw attention to your sig file. Is it an coincidence that you're offering "good content"?

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sbucciarel Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mattlaclear

It looks to me like your rant is little more than an attempt to draw attention to your sig file. Is it an coincidence that you're offering "good content"?

Which is rather ironic and a very poor marketing ploy since we've had a big sample dose of this "good content" right here.
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mattlaclear

14 years ago

It's okay to have some attitude in your marketing. But whining on a forum that is filled with potential purchasers of your service is just plain idiotic. So think next time before you start spouting off. It seems you're doing nothing but pissing in your own well water if you ask me.

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