Do you think its unfair for a web browser to judge a website as unsafe just because its a new site?

by uleesgold Banned
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I think it might have been Opera web browser which gave me a warning alert telling me the site might not be safe, simply because it was less than 3 months old.

this was said about my website.

Although it stated the reason why, it sounds a bit slanderous. Just a little.

So, something like that could hurt the conversion rate if you sell anything on there or if you get leads in any way.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Never used Opera, so haven't run into that problem. What a bizarre idea that anything under 3 months may be unsafe.
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      I've had pop-up warnings in Firefox on certain sites. A bit irritating, to be honest. The warning makes it virtually impossible to get to the site to see anything without a lot of fancy manoeuvering.

      The warnings seem to be based on the simple fact that the browser source has no information on some sites (because they're new or some other reason) and this is perceived as a potential threat. I've checked out a few of those warnings to see what the threat is, and it seems to me it takes you to W3.. something page where you can read what others have posted about that site. I've yet to see any real threats being presented there. So I don't get the point.

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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Little
    Never heard of age being a reason for that warning. Are you absolutely sure that's the reason it spat out?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by uleesgold View Post

    Although it stated the reason why, it sounds a bit slanderous. Just a little.
    I think I see what you mean. Although if it did state the reason why ...

    I can see that under some circumstances it could be pretty useful information for someone browsing to know that a website's new-ish, to be fair.

    Originally Posted by uleesgold View Post

    So, something like that could hurt the conversion rate if you sell anything on there or if you get leads in any way.
    Arguably, yes ... but if it can actually hurt your conversion-rate, then clearly it's because the age of the site is a relevant factor to some people, wouldn't you say? Given that it's information generally accessible by people anyway, it's perhaps a bit hard to object to it simply being made more readily available? :confused:
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  • I've seen lots of warnings about unsigned certificates and the like, but never because a site is new.
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  • Profile picture of the author donhx
    I use AVG Anti-virus and it pops up a message if a site is infected, and I am glad for that. But I have never had a browser warn me of an "age issue"--and I use FF, Chrome and IE8 a lot.

    I would avoid Opera. It is not a very popular browser, and is likely to become less popular if it has the feature you describe. Most people WANT to find new things on the Internet. I don't think Opera is likely to make a dent in your sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
      My ISP, or rather, the security software provided by the ISP, gave me this message on some of my sites. Nothing to do with the browser. I just turned off the Fraud Protection part of the software and the problem went away.
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    • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
      Opera is a browser hardly anyone uses, I wouldn't worry about it.

      According to Wikipedia they've only got 2.74% usage share.

      If it was Firefox or IE then it might be a slight concern.
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      • Profile picture of the author TinkBD
        I have seen this often. The first time I saw it on one of my sites I was quite distressed.

        So far, I haven't found any way to circumvent it. There doesn't seem to be a mechanism in place to register and / or certify a new site.

        Do I think this is a huge problem?

        Depending on the niche involved, maybe or maybe not...

        My concern is that the less sophisticated web surfers may be more likely to see these warning, due to their browser and AV settings, and are also less likely to be able to evaluate the perceived threat accurately.

        My current IE (which I rarely use) has been doing this and the ZoneAlarm toolbar does it routinely.

        This is why I tend to buy my domains as soon as I know I need them and whomp WP on ASAP with blocked privacy settings. Then I dawdle a bit before I implement... ;-)

        As soon as I have sufficient, content I unblock the privacy settings

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  • Profile picture of the author RickDayle
    Opera was the browser I used on my old smart phone running Windows Mobile 6.1. I don't recall ever seeing it throw up a site warning, but I probably didn't hit more than 15 or 20 sites a month in the peak usage period of that phone, which I had for about 3 years.

    It was better than trying to use IE on mobile, and I never liked it enough to try to find it for my notebook. Probably one of the reasons it isn't so popular... I don't even know yet what my new android phone uses for a browser.. (hope it's not opera again).
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  • Profile picture of the author matada74839
    Wondering if anyone could provide a link to a page on Opera's site that might clarify this. Very surprised that it considers going to a new site is risky. Luckily it's only used by a small percentage of surfers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
      Originally Posted by matada74839 View Post

      Wondering if anyone could provide a link to a page on Opera's site that might clarify this.
      Hmmm... reading ALL the posts is a healthy habit to save ourselves from embarrassment...

      Originally Posted by Gail_Curran View Post

      My ISP, or rather, the security software provided by the ISP, gave me this message on some of my sites. Nothing to do with the browser.
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  • Profile picture of the author clickbanktemplate
    If you have an antivirus like kaspresky it will show you the warning irrespective of the browsers or even otherwise if your site has secure content or encryption method used by a site is outdated, the warning "The site is using an outdated encryption method" will appear.
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  • Profile picture of the author matada74839
    fwiw, looks like Opera integrates Haute Secure to monitor and alert users to malware sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author majurski
    However, you have 2 choices
    1. Change your browser. Probably not more then 3% of people using it...
    2. Stay with Opera and wait for 3 months, after that you may not get this massage anymore..
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