Question about opt ins forms on clickbank pages...

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Hi Folks,
My question is about opt-ins on clickbank sales pages, whether it's a form on the page or pop ups, etc.

Am I right, that if an affiliate sends a prospect, that prospect then opts in, and goes on to buy after an email follow up, the affiliate still gets the commission because of the cookies.

If that's correct, I'd be better off having an opt in rather than not having one, as it increases the chance of the sale, right?

Thanks,
Gordon
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Lee
    One way to find out if you (as an affiliate) are being credited for the sale is to opt-in yourself using your Clickbank affiliate link.

    Then in the vendor's OTO or follow-up emails, click the order button and on the Clickbank order page, scroll down below to see if [affiliate=YOUR CB ID]. Your CB ID should have your Clickbank nickname in it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Lee
    It also depends on the affiliate's perspective if he wants to promote a page with an opt-in or not. Some affiliates don't like "giving away" their subscribers despite an honest and effective follow-up system, while some prefer to have a follow-up in place.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Some vendors will give you the sale from the followup emails but a lot of vendors will use their own affiliate links in the followup emails so you end up getting nothing. It should also be noted that the Clickbank affiliate cookie only lasts for 60 days so after that period you won't get credited for a sale anyway.

    A lot of the more experienced affiliates tend to stay away from those sales pages that use optin forms because they would much rather build a list themselves and then send the customer over to the Clickbank product. Why help build someone else's list when you can build your own and have complete control over it?
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    • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
      Thanks for the replies.

      So as the vendor, what would I need to do to make sure affiliates get the sale if they buy from email follow ups?
      If I send prospects to the main sales page, do the cookies track to the affiliate that sent them there originally?

      I appreciate that only lasts for 60 days.
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by The Great Gordino View Post

        Thanks for the replies.

        So as the vendor, what would I need to do to make sure affiliates get the sale if they buy from email follow ups?
        If I send prospects to the main sales page, do the cookies track to the affiliate that sent them there originally?

        I appreciate that only lasts for 60 days.
        To make sure your affiliates get the sale just send the people using a normal link, not your affiliate link. This means the original affiliates cookie will not be overridden so they will still get the sale.

        As a product vendor I would highly recommend you set up two different versions of your sales page and let affiliates choose which one they want to promote. One with an optin form on it and one without.

        Different affiliates want different things so make sure you provide them with options.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          When I send traffic to a sales page, I want that page to sell - period. I don't want anything making dry spots in the 'greased chute', and interrupting the flow toward the order button. Presenting an opt-in is defintely a dry spot.

          As an affiliate, what I see is "Much as I'd like you to buy right now, what I really want is get you on a list I can promote this and other stuff to for a long time, so instead of hitting that buy button, sign up for my list and get the freebie I'm offering instead. Then, if you insist, I'll sell you what you came for."

          It's not about cookies or trying to make a sale later, nor is it about cheaters. If I get even a whiff of a scam, I'll never promote any of that vendor's products ever again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by The Great Gordino View Post

    Am I right, that if an affiliate sends a prospect, that prospect then opts in, and goes on to buy after an email follow up, the affiliate still gets the commission because of the cookies.
    Unfortunately not.

    This can be what happens. In theory.

    In my own research on this subject, I discovered, with what I tested, that 85% of the time this was actually not what reliably happened.

    The whole subject is discussed in very great detail in this thread.

    As you'll see from giving it a careful read-through, for very many understandable reasons, few serious Clickbank affiliates are willing to promote a product with an opt-in on the sales page. I recommend that you shouldn't, either.

    Originally Posted by The Great Gordino View Post

    I'd be better off having an opt in rather than not having one, as it increases the chance of the sale, right?
    It unquestionably increases the chances of a sale, but not of the affiliates getting paid for it, sadly. Good affiliates obviously want their prospects on their list, not on the vendor's list.

    If you're a vendor, all you need to do is provide both (sales pages with and without an opt-in), and give affiliates the choice, as many do. And make it very clear in your marketplace listing that there's an opt-in-free version of the sales page available. Problem solved.

    Otherwise you'll attract only the affiliates who don't mind about this, and/or "haven't quite worked it out", and with no offense to anyone, I'd venture to suggest that those really aren't the ones most vendors would ideally want to attract.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      The whole subject is discussed in very great detail in this thread.
      Great thread, and thanks for pointing me to it.
      It seems the sensible option, if I wanted to put an opt in on the sales page, is to also put up a sales page without, and make it clear to potential affiliates that there is the choice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benson P
    I promoted a clickbank product once where the salespage have opt-in form.

    Being curious of what the vendor send to their subscribers, i opt-in too.
    The vendor did not hard code the affiliate link, which means my potential sale
    could still be very well overwritten and after a few emails, guess what?..

    The vendor promote OTHER product with his own affiliate link!

    From then on, i think twice if there is a opt-in on their salespage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benson P
    Yeap, basically all the subscribers you pushed to vendor becomes his and is in his mercy..
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