How do you choose your niches? - Niche Research Ideas

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What techniques do you use to choose your niches?
Do you choose ones that interest you?
Do you have a particular strategy?
Do you use a tool or software?

I thought it would make an interesting thread to share how warriors go about choosing niches.

I choose mine by looking at the main topics in Ezine Articles. If there are articles written there about them then it must be a popular niche. I then narrow it down to a more specific niche topic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Halloran
    Maslow's heirarchy of needs. Truly best way to look at marketing and what we need as people.

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    • Profile picture of the author NikkiDelgado
      Not sure how this explains how you pick your niches. Care to enlighten me?

      Originally Posted by Phil Halloran View Post

      Maslow's heirarchy of needs. Truly best way to look at marketing and what we need as people.

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      • Profile picture of the author sodevious
        Originally Posted by NikkiDelgado View Post

        Not sure how this explains how you pick your niches. Care to enlighten me?
        Maslow's hierarchy of needs basically explains all a person needs to live. It's all about needs. If you can pick a niche that fills one of those needs, you will sell more! Better image-
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        • Profile picture of the author tijja
          I almost always choose a topic I am passionate about. My main earners are large authority sites that would not be profitable if they were not the "go-to" place for people searching those topics. You can tell if someone is a real expert or a marketer pretending to be one... sorry you just can. Because of all the stats and comments I got to those sites I made spin-off sites that were more tightly niched and designed to sell.

          I also have 6 sites in the entertainment, TV, celebrity niche and started all of them because I was passionate about the entertainer or show and figured there must be others out there like me. I ended up making some very profitable sites that way.

          So I guess for me, the number thing is write about something I really like.
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        • Profile picture of the author celente
          Originally Posted by sodevious View Post

          Maslow's hierarchy of needs basically explains all a person needs to live. It's all about needs. If you can pick a niche that fills one of those needs, you will sell more! Better image-
          thats a much better triangle.

          I like the breathing one. LOL....we all gotta breathe right! Specially when we are all stressed out. LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author jideofor
    I do mine by brainstorming... It makes me feel less competitive in any niche that comes to my mind. My niches are basically physical products.I prefer to look for a demand, gauge the competition before looking for a product to promote.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      I jump on anything that's hot. Checkout some of the best selling products at Amazon, use Google trends, hot topics in the media, new products, etc. Generally, the most competitive niches are where the money's at.
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  • Ermm... I tend to first choose a topic that I enjoy and have considerable knowledge within.

    I then search clickbank and choose 3 or 4 products in the sub-niches i'd like to look in to and possible promote

    I then finish by analysing demand and competition using market samurai and google's keyword tool.

    After I've done this, I choose the one with several keywords that have the highest SEOV as ms calls it. This is the one with a good ratio of searches:competition with a high cost of adsense adverts. Basically, it says what the overall value of a keyword and subniche are worth.

    It's pretty easy to do really...
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
    I use several ways of finding niches, but I'll only explain one of them because I want to keep most of my niche researching tools secret .

    Anyways, I use the Google Wonder Wheel to find niches . It works .
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    • Yeah. Another tool comes with the Bamboo Tablet and it's similar to the Wonder wheel: it is the Bamboo Explore about which I wrote a bit in one of my websites about free vector art.
      I don't use it a lot simply because of time reasons but it's a nice tool if you have 20 minutes of tranquility to play with it.
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      • Profile picture of the author HaroldD
        I choose what I know about first and I don't just go for niches that have good search numbers. Any niche can be lucrative if you know what you are doing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sandeep Nath
        Nice post. Interesting reading. Got me thinking... and I found i have been choosing niches based on things I don't understand at all.

        Somehow there are many searches for those obscure things and I just study them a bit and apply IM fundamentals... and whoopie google loves me ;-)
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Ian Varnava View Post

          For physical products, along with what everyone else already mentioned, here's one that doesn't get talked about much: Google shopping.

          Just go there and you have 25 random products listed in front of you under "A few of the items recently found with Google Product Search".

          I look at each one, see if one catches my eye, then click on it to quickly see the price range they're going for, so I can get a rough idea of the type of commission I could make with it (high, low, medium, both, etc). Then I click on the "web" tab to get web results and quickly get a rough snapshot of what kind of competition there is, if there are AdWords ads, etc. I also type the same product name from scratch to see what Google suggests and get more ideas (I've built successful businesses which make 3-4 figures monthly based on this simple technique alone).
          Ian, back in my engineering days, we would have called this an 'elegant' method. Which was high praise. Simple, effective can be done quickly by just about anyone.

          Well done...

          Couple that with a number of groups that have and spend money, that you can both reach and connect with, and you're golden.
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          • Profile picture of the author Xavier Xu
            One thing to remember:

            'People Vote With Their Wallets'

            Check out bestseller lists, Amazons, Clickbank.

            That is where you can find products that are working.
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  • Profile picture of the author LeadBoltBrian
    Aside from the great idea-sparker tools out there, we always tell our publishers, "what kind of niche are YOU attracted to?". It's much easier to meet demand when you are marketing to yourself.

    Obviously, this theory doesn't always apply but you can usually tweak a favorite niche to meet a current demand.
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  • Profile picture of the author uleesgold
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    I consider what's popular , but if I'm spending a lot of time on something it must be something I like. Or else, the job is too boring.
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  • Profile picture of the author leadmonster
    I personally go the path less traveled and use specific keyword research and look for the untapped markets that get alot of searches just that no one ever goes for the "other stuff"
    everyone is always too stuck on marketing niches. However I have multiple untapped niche sites that make about $5-$10 a day
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  • Profile picture of the author bnwebm
    I literally find niches every day. One of my more profitable Adsense sites was created when I was at a friends' house. They had an apron front sink, which I loved and well, what can I say, i'm a keyword freak. When I got home, I plugged "apron sink" into my niche finder software and found several great long-tailed keyphrases. Made a few sites, wrote content for them, added Adsense and have made hundreds without touching them in nearly a year.
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  • Niche marketing is either fine tuning a subject, object or idea. Keep in mind the current economic climate and baby boomer desire for health, wealth and longevity, it's not hard to find something unique.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Lamb
    As a physical product affiliate, I like to go to the mall and find cool stuff. I often see things that I would never have thought of myself and jot them down in a note pad.

    I like to promote things that women tend to buy more often than men (though not exclusively). In general, women seem to feel more free to make spontaneous buying decisions than men.

    Plus, there are always pretty girls at the mall. It motivates me to get out and do "research".
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  • Profile picture of the author marcuslim
    Choose one that is at the intersection of profit, your passion and your skills. Meaning it has to be profitable, it's good if you actually have an interest in it, and also have some expertise in it. So choosing something just because you love doing it is not enough - people need to want it too. On the flip side, it helps a lot too if you are interested in what you are doing as it is usually easier to keep sustaining something if you are interested in the subject.

    For niche ideas, go to clickbank and check out what people are selling. Another good source for ideas is amazon and dummies.com
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
    I don't necessarily care about passion or all that BS... I just care about finding products to promote which will make me money.

    For physical products, along with what everyone else already mentioned, here's one that doesn't get talked about much: Google shopping.

    Just go there and you have 25 random products listed in front of you under "A few of the items recently found with Google Product Search".

    I look at each one, see if one catches my eye, then click on it to quickly see the price range they're going for, so I can get a rough idea of the type of commission I could make with it (high, low, medium, both, etc). Then I click on the "web" tab to get web results and quickly get a rough snapshot of what kind of competition there is, if there are AdWords ads, etc. I also type the same product name from scratch to see what Google suggests and get more ideas (I've built successful businesses which make 3-4 figures monthly based on this simple technique alone).

    Sometimes I'll just get turned off right there and go on to the next one... however If I proceed from that point, then I plug the keyword into the Google keyword tool to get more ideas, as well as further drill into the demand for that particular product(s).

    From there it's just doing everything else, a little bit more research, purchasing a keyword rich domain, setting up a website, ranking it and promoting products.

    When I'm done, I just hit "reload" on the Google shopping page and get a brand new set of 25 products recently found with Google shopping.

    Sometimes I end up doing niche research that way all night and when the sunlight starts coming through the window I'm like oh sh*t what did I do all night.

    Of course, you need to save any good keywords/ideas you come across during this process so you can work on them later.

    Other sources are eBay Pulse, Amazon (drill deep into individual categories and view bestsellers), Clickbank (though not as much for me anymore, I focus more on physical products these days), and just any type of large established shopping website. Remember, all these businesses have done the research and they have their websites set-up with the categories/products etc that they do for a reason... dissect them, do your own keyword research, and find winners.

    Also just pay attention everywhere you go... every single thing out there is a niche idea screaming at you... from those sexy shorts that hot chick is wearing, to those cool shades you saw someone wearing, to that weird hat, to that big-as* ashtray for smokers outside many buildings, to the floor you're walking on, to just about anything. It's only limited to your imagination.

    I understand many people struggle to find niches but I feel like I've got more niches than I know what to do with... I'm about to start giving some away...lol.

    EDIT: here's another great one: http://popular.ebay.com/
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by Ian Varnava View Post

      I don't necessarily care about passion or all that BS... I just care about finding products to promote which will make me money.

      You have no passion for outdoor bbq grills? You're inhuman...

      But seriously, do you mainly promote physical products? Ever
      do anything from CB?

      Thanks,


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      • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
        Originally Posted by KenThompson View Post

        You have no passion for outdoor bbq grills? You're inhuman...

        But seriously, do you mainly promote physical products? Ever
        do anything from CB?

        Thanks,


        Ken
        Hiya Ken... Lol that's funny you mention bbq grills. I was just researching some last night since 'tis the season!! I had my own grill out on my balcony yesterday (that's how we BBQ in NYC, on balconies if you have one).

        I did the digital products thing for the last few years, even had a few of my own that did fairly well, and I'm still making (mostly) passive income from those entities... but my focus in 2011 has been strictly physical products. I discovered the Datafeedr plugin and went kind of crazy with it building niche sites with content, ranking them, and then adding an affiliate store.

        Many niches you can push both physical and digital products if you play it smart... such as parenting... you can sell baby products as well as baby games/educational software/eBooks etc. I'm working on something like that right now as I fool around on WF.
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    • Profile picture of the author Meharis
      Originally Posted by Ian Varnava View Post


      It's only limited to your imagination.

      I understand many people struggle to find niches but I feel like I've got more niches than I know what to do with... I'm about to start giving some away...lol.
      Thank you Ivan Varnava,
      I do exactly the same but with Domain Names.
      Now that I'm thinking of it, I may start doing it with KW.
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      • Profile picture of the author Piper Anderson
        I like to use Google Shopping to see what's been selling well recently, then check to see if that product is popular on Amazon.com, if it sells for more than $100, if it has a decent number of good reviews, etc. Then, I use Micro Niche Finder to help me find 5 to 10 good highly searched, low competition keywords in that niche to target for a website. The keywords are usually product-related, and may even be specific model numbers for different versions or brands of that type of product.

        If I'm going for a Clickbank review site, I use cbengine.com to see what's selling well on Clickbank, and then use Micro Niche Finder to help me find good keywords to target.

        If I'm going for an Adsense site, I go for informational niches that I know pay out well in CPC, such as insurance, real estate, health, money, etc., then look for 5 to 10 keywords with a CPC of $1 or more, that are highly searched with low competition, and that have an exact keyword match domain name available in .com, .net, .org, or in a pinch, .info. And yes, I use Micro Niche Finder for this, too. As you can probably tell, I like that particular tool.

        I've recently started experimenting with Market Samurai, and I like that tool a lot, too, but I'm still new to it and learning about all of the amazing things it does. I'm impressed so far, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author erange
    ...stick with things you enjoy. In my experience, individuals that seek a "lucrative" niche just because it's "lucrative"...don't stick around too long. If you could care less about online video games...don't spend all of your time researching, writing and developing plans around online video games. That's called a miserable job.

    On the other-hand, if you enjoy racquetball...and you could spend some time researching racquetball stuff, writing some articles, learning some stuff, etc. Making some extra cash along the way will be fun. It won't even seem like work.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
      Originally Posted by hellingent View Post

      ...stick with things you enjoy. In my experience, individuals that seek a "lucrative" niche just because it's "lucrative"...don't stick around too long. If you could care less about online video games...don't spend all of your time researching, writing and developing plans around online video games. That's called a miserable job.

      On the other-hand, if you enjoy racquetball...and you could spend some time researching racquetball stuff, writing some articles, learning some stuff, etc. Making some extra cash along the way will be fun. It won't even seem like work.

      To Your Success,
      But what if you don't enjoy anything?? :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
        Originally Posted by Ian Varnava View Post

        But what if you don't enjoy anything?? :confused:
        As Ed Dale once said, learn to love the process .

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      • Profile picture of the author theultimate1
        Originally Posted by Ian Varnava View Post

        But what if you don't enjoy anything?? :confused:
        That's my case. I enjoy only money and well... s3x
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  • Profile picture of the author erange
    Ian,

    I understand you're all about the cashflow. Why else would any of us be doing this, right? We do need to find profitable "lucrative" niches. I get it. I'm just sayin' that you can find profitable niches on things you enjoy and make it a much more pleasurable experience - especially for the newbies struggling with how this all works.

    If you like coffee...maybe it's high-end coffee makers, import beans, etc. Use Google Shopping like you mentioned. See what's out there for coffee.

    To Your Success,
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    • Profile picture of the author stanleytapp
      Nice forum post. I always choose to have the niche I like at that particular time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
      Originally Posted by hellingent View Post

      Ian,

      I understand you're all about the cashflow. Why else would any of us be doing this, right? We do need to find profitable "lucrative" niches. I get it. I'm just sayin' that you can find profitable niches on things you enjoy and make it a much more pleasurable experience - especially for the newbies struggling with how this all works.

      If you like coffee...maybe it's high-end coffee makers, import beans, etc. Use Google Shopping like you mentioned. See what's out there for coffee.

      To Your Success,
      Absolutely Randall... I was just kind of joking.. I don't go for niches which are COMPLETELY un-appealing to me. When I'm doing my niche research, as I said, I stop at ones which 'catch my eye', and then take it from there. Catching my eye means which at least interest me at some level. There are some which are very lucrative, such as certain jewelry and stuff, but which I find to be utterly boring, and everytime I come across a niche like that... I say to myself "man there's so much money here, let me just set something up with this". Then as I start doing the research and going through the motions, I can't stand it so I just forget about it...lol.

      So, yes, it's not just 'completely' about the cash-flow for me, I do have to have at least some level of interest in pursuing the niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author erange
    ...with that said, you kinda stumped me for what you should pursue if you don't like anything. Maybe it's a website about nothing? ;-) Seinfeld made a lot of money with that one!
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  • Profile picture of the author niravmehta
    I build my own software products. Haven't ventured into typical info products yet, neither CB stuff. I just feel a lot more comfortable with my own products.

    Here's how I would select a niche.

    - What's a problem that's bugging me? Would a lot of others have the same problem? Will they pay for a solution to it?
    - Are there enough competitors already or will I be the first entrant?
    - Can I piggy back on someone else? So that marketing becomes easier. (we built activeCollab and Basecamp extensions first - this gave great leverage)
    - Do I know enough about this market?
    - What can I charge? Will it be profitable?
    - How much time will I have to invest in this?


    I actually keep a notebook and scribble any new ideas that come along. I keep watching for the latest developments or opportunities and write it down in the notebook. Only a fraction of these ideas would be feasible / worth pursuing. Profitability and marketability will be key factors in short listing an idea.

    Money, Health and Relationships will be evergreen topics. But the niche that I am focusing is productivity. All my products revolve around saving time / making things easier / taking away pain in doing some task.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author BenBrandes
    Amazon, magazines, book stores, word of mouth, hot topics, software. I then go deeper using wonder wheel and google keyword tool.

    Usually stick to something related to the top 3 paying industries - health, money and relationships.
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