The difference between "newbie" and "smart beginner"

by Jose Anajero 18 replies
May I share with you an interesting discussion started by Eric Walker in the Better Networker on the difference between a "newbie" and "smart beginner".

Eric's post resonates with me 100% because I used the term "smart beginners" when I put up my exercise blog "Internet Entrepreneurship for Smart Beginners" during my free intern program with Terry Dean few months ago. I don't know where I got it but I just felt that's how best to describe that sub-group of beginners I wanted to reach out. It feels great that a leader like Eric is now using the same term. And now am sharing with you.

Many gurus do not recognize that many of us beginners are simply inexperienced in business and marketing but not dumb.The few who respect our intelligence earn our trust instantly.

Are you a "newbie" or a "smart beginner"?

Thanks.

Jose
#main internet marketing discussion forum #difference #newbie #smart beginner
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  • Profile picture of the author T.I.M.
    Jose, spot on man! Thanks for posting this as I was a "newbie" & tried a few things (quick cash unsuccessfully) but do have sales/marketing experience (straight commission) for most of my adult life.

    I thought the internet was different but am soon realizing it's all the same thing. 1 super salespeople can only sell so much but 10 mediocre salespeople combined will out sell that star most days of the week...

    This "Smart Beginner" term is where I'm at & my vision. Not quick cash but a sustainable business..... A lot of work at first but an automated system at the back end.

    This was spot on to re-enforce my beliefs as stronger.

    Thanks again for posting this, Jose.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
    Originally Posted by Jose Anajero View Post

    Many gurus do not recognize that many of us beginners are simply inexperienced in business and marketing but not dumb.The few who respect our intelligence earn our trust instantly.
    Call yourself whatever you want, but "newbie" does not mean "dumb." It means "beginner" or "novice." Look it up.

    newbie definition | Dictionary.com
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  • Profile picture of the author Texas_Guns
    How about we just coin a new
    phrase here and see if it
    catches on?

    How about, "sminnerbie"?

    It has a ring to it. And I'm
    sure the domain name is
    available for someone to
    create a huge blog and
    brand with!

    If that word doesn't do it
    for you, how's "smartubie"?

    Ahhh... Now that's the ticket.

    No, I'm not a newbie! I'm
    a Smartubie!
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    • Profile picture of the author T.I.M.
      Yes this is def. a great discussion... No one should be defined by a term.

      Chris, great point!

      LOL Texas for creating some new phrases & buzzwords...

      However I do like the way Erik breaks it down in a sense to what some do & others do....

      Good show, gentlemen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    Bumblebie?

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    • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
      Yeh and I've been around for years but I don't want to be called a "guru" either.

      I don't think it's worth worrying about what people call you or what you think people call you.

      Ultimately you're here to learn how to make money or help others do the same regardless of how much experience you have.

      And we all have unique experience...they guy who's been involved in internet marketing for a week can often come up with some fantastically profitable insights and ideas.

      And the guy who's been doing it for over a decade often forgets the process the newer guy has to go through to start making a real income.

      The perception of both groups is skewed and misleading.

      We all learn from each other and we all have a whole lot to learn.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author danhughes
    While I totally understand that it can seem insulting, it's a marketing technique with two big benfits.

    1) Saying something is SO simple a 'newbie' could do it will make the 'smart beginner' feel like they have the upper hand and are _sure_ to be successful, lol!
    2) There are a HUGE number of people that feel 95% of what you can find in the Warrior Forum (or anywhere else) is very confusing.
    3) <== Unadvertised Bonus Opinion!! Creating a product that can bring success to this market is super easy. I have sold (and had very happy customers) a $7 report on how to post YouTube videos and get them on your website.

    That being said, if you make the "Smart Beginner" your USP you could be onto something!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    I wouldn't call anyone who starts a mildly controversial
    thread which has a high degree of relevance to the
    link in his signature either a newbie or a beginner.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Jose Anajero
      Thanks so much CuzinTim, Chris, Texas Guns, Will, danhughes, Andrew and John for taking the time to join in the conversation. I really enjoyed it and learned so much from all of you.

      Jose
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      lol

      Nope, I call them forum marketers

      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      I wouldn't call anyone who starts a mildly controversial
      thread which has a high degree of relevance to the
      link in his signature either a newbie or a beginner.

      John
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    • Profile picture of the author NewbiesDiary
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      I wouldn't call anyone who starts a mildly controversial
      thread which has a high degree of relevance to the
      link in his signature either a newbie or a beginner.

      John
      Good Call

      Have to say I'm more than proud to be a newbie - though I might shed the term soon!

      It doesn't really matter what you call yourself - just take action
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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    As with any trade, there is some term for the beginner.

    Novice
    Apprentice
    Freshman
    Padawan (couldn't resist)

    even Beginner. Not a put down, but a starting point.

    Thanks,

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
    Oh please - whether your called a newbie or a "smart beginner" it's all the same - you still have to put your time in.

    Instead of having preference for a certain term just do your work and soon enough you will move up the rungs of the ladder.

    Personally I would rather be called whatever term and get the right information from the right person then maybe be coddled and have my ego soothed and get perhaps not as good training or understanding.

    And as far as being a pledge in a fraternity I was GLAD to be a pledge since I attained a status that had to be earned and was chosen to be one of the few to become an exclusive member of an organization that others were excluded from being a part of.
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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        I am a newbie because I have not been here long, but I am not a newbie in the sense that I am making good money.

        The term doesn't bother me a bit, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Stanley
    maaswhole, you have the best username i've seen yet! Why not 'masshole'? hahaha!
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  • Profile picture of the author thatgirlJ
    I have always hated the term newbie
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