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13 years ago

Chris,

If you post an article, it's almost guaranteed to be deleted. A lot of your posts look like articles.

If you start a thread with a video, especially one of your own, it's almost guaranteed to be deleted. We're not going to watch every video someone wants to post to see if it's promotional or not.

Hint: The discussion sections are not intended for advertising. That's not limited to "Hey, buy my stuff" types of posts.

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Jill Carpenter

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger

(500+ posts is nothing to sneeze at)

Achoo!

If I never had a post deleted here I very well could have over 10,000 posts. lol

I've made up for it over on skype.

Being a war room member, having lots of posts, being helpful, etc really doesn't guarantee you anything.

ps: I have learned to take questions like this one or things that might be questionable to do over to the help desk first if I think it is something important enough.

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Okay. Here we go again...

Do not ask about deleted threads at the help desk, unless they're paid ads.

The odds are very good that someone else deleted the thread, and Thomas doesn't need to be getting into pointless debates and arguments about what was or was not deleted/moved/targeted by the orbital nuclear spam decimator.

Thank you for your attention. We now return you to the regularly scheduled mayhem.

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Chris The Traffic Blogger

13 years ago

Thanks guys for clearing that up. Still very disappointed that some well thought out posts were deleted simply because they "looked like something else." Oh well I'll work on marketing my posts better I guess... which is ironic.

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Chris,

I'll work on marketing my posts better I guess

As long as you think about it that way, you're going to keep having problems.

Why not take a wild leap of faith and try using the discussion sections for something like, oh... discussion, rather than self-promotion? Ya never know. It could work.

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Michael Mayo

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Chris,As long as you think about it that way, you're going to keep having problems.

Why not take a wild leap of faith and try using the discussion sections for something like, oh... discussion, rather than self-promotion? Ya never know. It could work.

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Jill Carpenter 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Do not ask about deleted threads at the help desk, unless they're paid ads.

LOL, I heard that.

Maybe I should have been more clear about my mention of contacting the help desk. I meant that if you are planning to post something which you think is important and you want to get some opinion on if it might come across as an article or self promotional or if you are wondering if a cause or something in your signature might be borderline allowed then one might consider passing it by the help desk before posting it.

For example, posts that are asking people to donate money for a particular cause. I would never assume I could put that type of thread here in the main forum without passing it by someone.

Anything else in general I find here (such as useful posts that may get deleted for some silly reason) I either copy and stash it away somewhere else or realize it may not always be there - as I just don't have room on my hard drive for every bit of useful information I come across and not nearly enough time in my life span to go back and read it all. :p

Let it be known, that I fully agree with Paul that one should not run to the help desk every time a post is deleted.

Now, if I were to come back tomorrow and every post I ever made here had been deleted, well, I might have to contact the help desk on that particular matter.
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- Paul Myers 13 years ago
  
  Jill,
  
  Now, if I were to come back tomorrow and every post I ever made here had been deleted, well, I might have to contact the help desk on that particular matter.
  
  [chuckle] Barring a screw-up by a mod, that's unlikely to happen. And yes, I have personally made that exact screw-up myself. It was quite embarrassing.
  
  Hint: Don't respond to a post and then report it as spam. You're too close to the button for nukage...
  
  A good cause? Yeah. You should ask first. Unless it's for a well-established member, or to promote sending money to an established charity to help in a major emergency, it's unlikely to be allowed.
  
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  Tina Golden 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Paul Myers
  
  Jill,[chuckle]
  Hint: Don't respond to a post and then report it as spam. You're too close to the button for nukage...
  
  Boy, did I learn THAT the hard way! Two accidental bans and Paul gave me this handy bit of advice, thank goodness.
  
  The first time it happened, I freaked out...lol. Hit poor Thomas at the Help Desk and then when I found I couldn't even get back to the Help Desk, I hit up Paul.
  
  Still lost a huge chunk of posts the second time but that's okay. We all know post count really doesn't mean diddly squat, anyway.
  
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Chris The Traffic Blogger

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Chris,As long as you think about it that way, you're going to keep having problems.

Why not take a wild leap of faith and try using the discussion sections for something like, oh... discussion, rather than self-promotion? Ya never know. It could work.

Paul

I was inferring that ironically I have to market my posts as discussion when I in fact meant them as discussion already.

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LB 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger

I was inferring that ironically I have to market my posts as discussion when I in fact meant them as discussion already.

Your posts look like articles. You can use the WF blogs for those if you want.

The last time I read one of your posts I thought, "did he rip this from somewhere?". I actually googled it, and found it on your blog.

Posting blog articles here also gets them deleted.

We all have had posts deleted, it's not personal.

Just talk to people.
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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Chris,

I was inferring that ironically I have to market my posts as discussion when I in fact meant them as discussion already.

[sigh]

If it really is discussion, you won't need to market it as such. People will know. And no amount of marketing is going to make an article or video look like discussion. The more you try, the less folks will listen.

Tina,

I nuked all of a guy's posts accidentally. As soon as I realized what I'd done, I reversed the ban and emailed him an apology and explanation. We fixed the "Thanks" count, so folks could see he'd been active and helpful, but the posts were just gone.

The gentleman was quite forgiving. Thankfully, I've only made that particular mistake once.

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mattlaclear

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Chris,[sigh]

If it really is discussion, you won't need to market it as such. People will know. And no amount of marketing is going to make an article or video look like discussion. The more you try, the less folks will listen.

Tina,

I nuked all of a guy's posts accidentally. As soon as I realized what I'd done, I reversed the ban and emailed him an apology and explanation. We fixed the "Thanks" count, so folks could see he'd been active and helpful, but the posts were just gone.

The gentleman was quite forgiving. Thankfully, I've only made that particular mistake once.

Paul

Ouch...I think I would lay down and cry if that happened to our wso threads.

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Matt,

Ouch...I think I would lay down and cry if that happened to our wso threads.

Ummm. Yeah. Might be a good idea to save copies occasionally, so you have the testimonials.

Seriously, that's a good plan even knowing that it's much less likely for anyone to make that mistake now than it was when I made it. There are other things that could happen. Servers crash, etc.

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mattlaclear

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Matt,Ummm. Yeah. Might be a good idea to save copies occasionally, so you have the testimonials.

Seriously, that's a good plan even knowing that it's much less likely for anyone to make that mistake now than it was when I made it. There are other things that could happen. Servers crash, etc.

Paul

I do save the testimonials every week so good to go there. I also save the sales copy of the op's after I post them too. Good idea for folks running wso's to do this too.

BTW...I don't know how you mods don't end up banning more people than you do. It's the same things being complained about over and over again.

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Matt,

BTW...I don't know how you mods don't end up banning more people than you do. It's the same things being complained about over and over again.

But not usually the same people. A mod wouldn't last long here if they couldn't grasp the notion that new people will tend to have the same questions and concerns as they come in. We're always getting lots of new people into the place.

We've heard it a thousand times. To them it's an original thought.

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Michael Mayo

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Matt,But not usually the same people. A mod wouldn't last long here if they couldn't grasp the notion that new people will tend to have the same questions and concerns as they come in. We're always getting lots of new people into the place.

We've heard it a thousand times. To them it's an original thought.

Paul

When I see a question that's been asked many times before I try to help
the poster by locating prior related threads and then place the links in my
reply to the OP.

There are more than enough negative posts/threads already littering the
forum so why add to them by replying "That question has been asked
10000 times before, Use the search feature".

Life is to short to waste time slapping people around for no good reason.
(except for Trolls, scammers and spammers) Then it's open season!

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Matt,

Heck I'm a war room member and have been paying close to $5k a month in bumps for several months now and I still get some of the threads I post deleted. So your 500+ posts really do not play into the equation whatsoever. Anything self promotional is going to get nuked very quickly.

Thank you!

We can tell people that all week long, but a chunk of folks are convinced that we give extra play to people who spend money here. The folks who buy ads know that doesn't enter into it. (Well, most of them know it. The rest figure it out soon enough.)

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Steven Wagenheim 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger

" Oh well I'll work on marketing my posts better I guess... which is ironic.

That's your problem Chris...mindset.

The members at this forum are here to help each other. The marketing is
for the paid sections such as WSO, Classifieds, etc.

Once you get that, you'll be fine.

Unfortunately, some people never get it.
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Richard Van 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

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Paul

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NikkiDelgado

13 years ago

Hi Chris,
Know where you´re coming from I have had some posts deleted in the past too. Ones that I thought were interesting and relevant discussion threads but were deleted. Oh well!
I still love this discussion forum and enjoy posting and responding here.
Just keep at it and I have found its always useful to use the search term because your discussion or thread might have already been posted. This saves time and effort, and the risk of your thread being deleted

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mattlaclear

13 years ago

Heck I'm a war room member and have been paying close to $5k a month in bumps for several months now and I still get some of the threads I post deleted. So your 500+ posts really do not play into the equation whatsoever. Anything self promotional is going to get nuked very quickly.
But isn't it counter productive to what you are attempting to accomplish here to post a whining thread like this one? I would think so.

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Open Net

13 years ago

I've had posts deleted here in recent days, and I'm brand new. Doesn't really make me feel like much of a part of the community. My posts were questions, which is what I thought discussion boards were for. I went back to read a response and the whole thing was gone. Is server storage space that much of an issue these days?

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Istvan Horvath

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Open Net

I've had posts deleted here in recent days, and I'm brand new. Doesn't really make me feel like much of a part of the community. My posts were questions, which is what I thought discussion boards were for. I went back to read a response and the whole thing was gone. Is server storage space that much of an issue these days?

Most likely you posted them in the wrong (sub)forum and they were moved.
You may find this useful:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...appearing.html

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mattlaclear 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

Most likely you posted them in the wrong (sub)forum and they were moved.
You may find this useful:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...appearing.html

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Open Net

I've had posts deleted here in recent days, and I'm brand new. Doesn't really make me feel like much of a part of the community.

You're not yet. Did you think that just creating an account got you the same standing as someone who's been contributing here for ages?

You're New Guy. And that's okay. We all were at some point. Even Allen.

That's got little to do with the posts in question, though. Check to make sure they weren't just moved. If they were in the wrong section, they'll have been moved or deleted.

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Open Net

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

You're not yet. Did you think that just creating an account got you the same standing as someone who's been contributing here for ages?

You're New Guy. And that's okay. We all were at some point. Even Allen.

That's got little to do with the posts in question, though. Check to make sure they weren't just moved. If they were in the wrong section, they'll have been moved or deleted.

Paul

Signing up doesn't get me into the community, but if my "newb" posts are deleted repeatedly, how on earth can I develop any sort of reputation or relationship with all of you? If newbie questions are deleted within a half hour, then that implies that you need to bring fresh, new ideas to the table in order to post here. Since I'm new, I'm still trying to find my way. Deleting my questions (this one was about being sandboxed, something that can be traumatic to new IMers) doesn't really make me feel like my "stupid" questions are welcomed here.

There is a wealth of knowledge to be gained here, and that's why I stick around and appreciate what exists here...but I shouldn't have to hesitate to post when I have a question because I don't want to waste my time and have it deleted. IM is hard enough to be belittled by delete-happy mods.

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Paul Myers 13 years ago

I shouldn't have to hesitate to post when I have a question because I don't want to waste my time and have it deleted.

Then put it in the correct section of the forum. That's not difficult, and I don't think it's an outrageous request to make. For the record, we're actually more likely to delete wrong-section posts by senior people than new folks, simply because the senior folks have less excuse.

Sandboxing is an SEO question. Goes in the SEO section.

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- Richard Van 13 years ago
  
  Paul Myers - Hint: Don't respond to a post and then report it as spam. You're too close to the button for nukage...
  
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  I'm very guilty of telling people (twice today I believe) to read the rules regarding affiliate links, then reporting them.
  
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  Istvan Horvath 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Richard Van
  
  I'm very guilty of telling people (twice today I believe) to read the rules regarding affiliate links, then reporting them.
  
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  Richard Van 13 years ago
  
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Zabrina

13 years ago

I've had threads deleted in the last couple of days... and I've definitely paid at least a couple hundred dollars to this forum, between various WSO's, bumps, War Room membership, image sig, all that fun stuff. And I've also got over 500 posts (some of them helpful, I hope).

Thread deletion: it just happens. When it happens to me, I take a deep breath and walk away from WF for a day or so (because I like to pretend I have a calm, even temper, and it shows when I'm out of sorts...

). Then, I think about what could have made it look like a nuke-worthy thread, and generally it will come to me. Finally, I try to avoid creating similar threads in the future.

I think it's a learning process just like that for most of us. Try what I just said next time it happens... 'cause there will be a next time for pretty much every one of us. :p

One more tip I just thought of -- if you're having a lot of trouble, try disabling your sig in your first posts and/or removing your sig altogether for a short time. Having a sig too closely related to your topic sends up rouge pennants.

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Marvin Johnston

13 years ago

If I've had posts deleted, I don't remember them as I just don't pay attention to that type of thing. Maybe one thread got deleted that turned out to be a duplicate of one that had already started ... I think

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I am constantly amazed at the excellent job the mods do, and they do it without a public explosion ... they have the patience of Job!

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