Lol I clicked wrong... option 2 obviously.

I didn't vote because neither option applies. I've been self employed for many years so I don't need foundations and I don't buy into push button hype. I buy stuff to learn specific skills I don't have or think I could do better.

It seems like your poll targets newbies??

Oz, why in the world would anyone without some form of thinking impediment choose option 1?

I voted for #2
but I want to own #1 haha

Someone mind quoting and replying (or PM) to this question:

why do some of these marketing firms (software) have low page rank lol?

While option number 2 is what I would BUY its not what I want. I want option number ONE. I want push-button profits. Literally I want to be able to push a button and watch money fall out of the sky. We can all be dreamers once in awhile.

Oh and I want Video proof of this button too. Until that happens I'll stick to option number TWO.

The cool thing about building a solid business with option 2 is that eventually you'll be able to transfer massive amounts of money to your bank account with the "push of a button." Strange how thats works huh?!

Long term growth is certainly the better option in this case. Given the volatile nature if the internet marketing world, it's even more imperative that we learn methods to establish a solid business model.

Some are.
Some aren't.

To be honest, I would never create a bull**** product; even if I know I can make a bunch of cash out of it. I'm simply not that guy; I've only created two products, both systems that I truly use to make money.

Are you serious?

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We love to overhype but we aren't liars as making money online is possible no?

I would not buy a product that promises success at the click of a button, because I do not believe such a thing is possible. While we can build a business that gets us to the point where we can just punch button or two and money comes out the other end, I do not believe we can start there.

Well, before I explain, I would suggest reviewing my warrior forum sign up date; as I'm rather new to the whole IM world. And I feel that enough people have said similar to what I'm thinking... but my concern as you've worded your poll, is that, promises can be broken

I used to work at Subway. I'm sure you guys are more than familiar with this fast food chain. What was their claim to fame for a really long time? Some dude ate Subway and lost hundred of pounds!

What the commercials don't tell you though is that the guy featured in those commercials actually WALKED to and from the Subway several MILES from his home.

Hmmmm... so would that make Subway shameless liars or can you just consider that hype?

According to several interviews with the marketing directors, Subway itself was extremely leery about promoting their sandwiches that way. Sales have nearly doubled for Subway ever since and its consistently listed as one of the "healthier" fast food joints in America--a perception that after working there is laughably not all that accurate.

I liked your question here. Sorry if I am offending or doing anything wrong, I am totally knew to the marketing scene. Was trying to see where I could post a question here. Would you mind answering this - what do you think of Xtreme Traffic Arbitrage? Seems this is the most important factor (driving traffic, or getting an opt in list) and I was wondering what some warriors thought about the program. Your advice would be much appreciated

Lost here - Jackie W:confused:

Sorry, I misunderstood your question. If you're going to be selling the product then you definitely need to go for what your audience is wanting. Especially, if you intend to make money on your product. Dan Brock is right! The chances of you making any real money are slim to none if try to sell them something that requires work. Most people are looking for the quick fix. No matter what market you're in. They want results fast. Good luck.

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To answer the question of the thread, no, I wouldn't say Internet marketers are a bunch of liars. There have been and will always be more than a few that give the industry a bad name and a worse reputation. The problem has always been in identifying and differentiating between the two.

As to the current poll question - it seems in my estimation that what most people are looking for is "A product that will show you how to build a solid foundation for your business ... at the click of a button" ... IE. A combination of the two.

I would say that option 2, (if you have been roaming about the IM industry long enough) is my logical way to go.

However, option 1 is for A. the very newbie, B. the not-so newbie who is desperate in making a miracle to put some food on the table after being shattered by the previous push-button scam and having to explain to the dear loved one where the money went... and / or refusing to believe that they are failures (proof of $$$$s - so it must be true), and / or has a purchasing addiction. Then there is C. The one who knows it, goes through the forums to read/post/questions etc., about the latest product that has come out.... Yah, all scam, bla, bla, bla... but still goes out and makes the purchase in the hopes that it must be 'the' secret key.

I mean, even here... How many times have we bought the 'best of the best' WSO and quickly breezed through the whole project, nodded, agreed, said 'd**n good work man, glad I got it' and it is still sitting on one of many archived files? to be looked at later...

So... I believe you have not been lied to.

In all honesty, it is basically the conflict between thinking with the heart or reasoning with the brain. 'We know option 1 will not make us rich in the long term, but we do it and do not want anyone to know because our brains tell us that option 2 is the obvious one! So, truthfully then... when asked in the survey, would you say Option 1 or Option 2? Duh?! 2 obviously :-)(Yes, there is work with the latter, but that is anoher issue in itself)

De pressa e bem nao ha' quem - No-one can do it fast and well
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i think there are some good marketers out there that can see an easy buck and go for it.

But then again there are great marketerst that really want to help and change peoples lives.

now that is cool, forget the rest. work hard and help people and become a good marketer, and a reputable one and the money and the right people will come to you .

Well, it depends on how you phrase your question. If you actually meant:

'A product that is guaranteed to bring success at the click of a button.'

instead of

'A product that promises success at the click of a button.'

I would take A.

That's because promises are often broken.

Well, I said that, but I would probably take 'a product that promises success at the click of a button' anyways, regardless of whether I'm new or I'm an expert.

Why?

Firstly, regardless of my current experience, the first option sounds much easier. I would take that over the other one no matter what just because it sounds easier and because I can only afford one.

The second option sounds harder. It's just my common sense to go with what's easier.

I mean... "Build a foundation"? It doesn't even sound fun.

It doesn't have anything to do with how experienced I am or not. Who doesn't want an easier solution to an existing problem if it actually exists? And who wants to do boring stuff?

Just hearing the word 'business' actually gives me a lot of negative connotations. Such as wearing formal suits, glasses, and sitting in front of a table the whole day while answering emails and the phone.

I like to think of it more as simply a 'road to success'. More fun, and has a zing to it.

Even if I were as well off as Bill Gates, I would still go with the first option.

Why?

Because, I'm so well off and have enough money already. Why would I want to spend more time building a solid foundation for another business or even growing my existing business?

Been there, done that... It wasn't as fun as I expected... I'm glad I don't have to sit in that Microsoft building anymore. It wasn't very cozy.

I'd like to try something new. That push-button money sounds interesting...

Of course, the question is asking what I would do if I could only afford one. That assumes that I am not as well-off as Bill Gates... I must be nearly dead broke.

In such case, I would still buy the first product.

Why?

Because it seems like some easy money. I don't care whether it's long-term or sustainable, or whatever. I just want some money now and fast. The long-term can wait.

The reason is because I know very well that in order to increase the amount of money you have, you need some money to invest.

I can't do that, since I'm dead broke and I can only invest in one product.

So I'll purchase the first product with what little money I have, and earn some quick and easy cash. Doesn't matter if it just works for a month or two.

Take the cash I earned from the first product, and now that I have some extra coin, I'll then go and buy the second product.

And with the extra short-term money that I got, I'll outsource what I learn in the second product, and I'll then keep on looking for more products that work like the first one.

I don't care what anyone says. No matter how you look at it, this is all about the money...

However, let's look at it this way...

If I could only afford one, and I bought the second product, and that product told me that in order to build a solid foundation for a business, I would need to purchase some web hosting...

Darn... I would be so messed up. I just spent my last dollar buying 'a product that will show you how to build a solid foundation for your business', and that product goes on to tell me to buy something else with money that I don't have.

What do I do now? I really should have gone with the first product, earned some cash and used it to buy the second product. I would then have some cash left over to buy the tools recommended in the second product. Sigh...

Please Oz, make us a push-button money tool that guarantees success! :O

It seems everything these days are "Make a million a week with the click of a button!"
TOTAL BS! I have spent hours/weeks/months/YEARS figuring out how the online world works and trust me there is no get rich quick method out there.

The problem I have with these blueprint sites, is that some of them don't offer what they say in their sales pitch! Or some promise the world for $97, so you decide "hell yeah that sounds good" and buy it, only to discover that after paying $97 you have to pay another $279 to actually GET what they advertised.

People like this I will never buy from and will never have a good word to say about.

Internet Marketing the way I've learnt it is all about HONESTY and INTEGRITY. So yes, 98% of the marketers out there are liars. Do your research PROPERLY before buying, dont just read a review or two because these reviews are usually written by the creators themselves

Yes, all Internet Marketers are shameless liars...

(I just lied).

All the very best, Allen

definitely!! especially such scam services as directory submission and alike..

Oz,

I can see where you're coming from (or going to in your OP.

From what I've seen, 99% will select the 2nd option, and 99% will buy the first one.

Here's something I need to know before I answer the poll.

In this hypothetical situation do the products in your poll do what they say they do? because it would totally change my answer.

If I was given a choice between something where I can push a button and make oodles of cash (and it would work), or between spending money on building a sustainable business I would pick the push button solution each and every time, and I would push that sucker as much as I could until it broke.

Let's face it, with all that cash I'm producing by pushing the button I could invest in making a sustainable business as well.

However, my logical, sane side knows that no such push button solution exists - or if it does the person who invented it would be sat there pushing the button as hard as he/she can and wouldn't be selling it to anyone.

So, if we are talking in terms of reality I would vote for something that helps me build a sustainable business.

The whole thing reminds me of the ancient Greek "liar paradox"...

Oz,
You are digging into something that has confounded me for many years. About 2 years ago I finally got on the right track and things started to make sense. Let's take your poll. Overwhelming, people are going to vote for #2 and buy #1. For a long time, I thought people were lying when asked a direct question. I was stumped as to why they can't just answer a simple questions truthfully so I could create a product that's exactly what they want.
It kind of sounds like that's where you are at now. First, the people are not intentionally telling lies at the polls. It's a very complex subject, and I'll tell you who helped me understand exactly what is going on. Read Blair Warren's work, the forbidden keys something or another. Google it and it will come right up. The answers you seek are there. Be prepared to be shocked, and the easy thing will be to dismiss his findings as false. They are however, true. Painful, but true. I'll give you one little hint and that all I'm going to say. There is an old saying that sums it up, "the truer the fewer"

When I started some time back, I purchased into hypes that promised one click pushbutton success formula/ blueprint, not that it does not work but still required lot of hard work. Since then, I purchased many tutorials to built my foundation. I now outsource most of the nitty gritty whenever possible. The secret of IM is there is no secret but through sheer hard work anybody may succeed.

Anything one chooses to do online will require work.

I do believe it's entirely possible to structure highly effective sales copy that doesn't even remotely flirt with the grey line between truth and falsehood. I've made thousands, in the IM/MMO niche, without ever even using a monetary figure in my product sales copy.

It CAN be done.