by Sylent
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I have been trying very hard with IM, and sadly, I have been failing. I am hiring some one who KNOWS what they are doing, can provide some sort of proof that they really know how to make money online.

Sadly right now I have about $25 to my name. I have a host, and right now one domain on it. The way I would like to pay you is by giving you X amounts of the profit I make while you help me get going.

WHAT I AM NOT LOOKING FOR!
-People selling me there wso's. (the reason I lost most my money not making any profit)
-Some one who can really spend some one on one time with a noobie over skype/aim/yahoo messenger or whatever you prefer.


If anyone can help me and would be willing to do this please let me know.


Right now my ultimate goal is to make $100 profit a day. And I understand fully that work will be needed. I will put hours in a day for the method. I am not just choosing anyone for this. I really want to work with some one who doesn't just want money, but who actually wants to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    There's a fundamental flaw in your proposal.

    Anyone who knows how to make money online is....
    making money online. They don't need to take a
    huge risk by helping someone who is an unknown
    quantity.

    In my experience, unless the "mentee" is willing to
    put something on the table and shoulder at least
    some of the risk, they are unlikely to follow through
    on their obligations.

    Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule.

    BUT... you'd have to demonstrate that you were
    willing to follow instructions, put in a lot of hard
    work and consistently meet agreed targets before
    I would even consider an offer of help.

    The ball is in your court.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylent
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      There's a fundamental flaw in your proposal.

      Anyone who knows how to make money online is....
      making money online. They don't need to take a
      huge risk by helping someone who is an unknown
      quantity.

      In my experience, unless the "mentee" is willing to
      put something on the table and shoulder at least
      some of the risk, they are unlikely to follow through
      on their obligations.

      Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule.

      BUT... you'd have to demonstrate that you were
      willing to follow instructions, put in a lot of hard
      work and consistently meet agreed targets before
      I would even consider an offer of help.

      The ball is in your court.

      John
      I would be working insanely hard. I don't know exactly what to do anymore with the stage I am at. I have lost a lot of money from promises from WSO's. I really don't want to quit IM, I just want to understand it and learn how to succeed. Working at home on my computer would be a dream come true for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Originally Posted by Sylent View Post

        I really don't want to quit IM, I just want to understand it and learn how to succeed.
        Well, IM is just marketing on the internet. You can market or sell what ever you want to sell (within legal means).

        Maybe you can narrow down what it is you don't understand?

        I have lost a lot of money from promises from WSO's
        Can you tell me how many WSO's total, and tell me did you actually implement them to their fullest extent? Did you contact the sellers when you had an issue? Is it really the fault of the WSO's?

        Sorry if I sound harsh here, but I don't seem to have this kind of luck with my personal purchases in that particular area. If I do have an issue, someone is contacted and things are resolved.

        I hate to see that particular forum bashed on like it is all bad and like nothing in there works.

        What promises were not fufilled? Not looking for any names, but perhaps you can reference what you have purchased (ie a guide on backlinking or affiliate marketing) without discussing product names or people, and give me a clue as to what is not working.
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      • Profile picture of the author Margo Tuul
        But why you are losing money? It's because you buy WSO after WSO and don't take any action. Spending time here in forum is not good for you, if you are already struggling. It's very hard to stay focused, if you see new products coming out...all promising to make you tons of money.

        Yes, most of them work...but it all takes time and effort. If you run from 1 product to another, then you leave no time for testing.

        Also if you know that WSO's costs money and people spend a lot there...why not creating your own WSO? You think it's so hard? No!

        Start out with market research. As you know already...Warrior Forum WSO is "make money online" ...mostly. So start searching in niche forums. Look for common problems, why people struggle. Research, research, research. And then you know exactly what people are looking for. And you will create your own WSO.

        Hot topics for WSO:

        Make xxx in x days
        Backlinks
        SEO (software + guides)
        Traffic (almost any kind)
        Blogging (autoblogs + niche blogs)
        CPA
        PPC
        Offline clients

        Or just look for popular WSO's. What is hot and selling fast.


        You said that you have bought tons of WSO...So i think you already know a lot too... Creating WSO is easy. Just research and provide a solution.


        You can also do affiliate marketing. Start with JVNP and promote upcoming product launches. Low competition for buying keywords....hit first page in few days. Let gurus do all email marketing...you dominate search engines. Spending $20 to get 10,000 profile links or blog comments to your niche sites ranks it 1st very fast.
        PS! Don't spend money on different products. Just invest this money, get backlinks, hire someone to write articles or to create videos.


        Too complicated? Be a "middleman". Start searching around for people looking for website design. Small businesses for example. Local newspapers, Craiglist or other advertising sites. Contact and say that you will do it. Your price is $500 for example. Half first and half when job is done. Payment with Paypal, so both are safe. Don't know how to create a website? How hard is to hire someone here in WF to do it for $50? Or $100. That's $400 in profit. You can even charge $2000 for it. I've done it and it works. They don't know that we have awesome place here where you can get things done for nothing. Oh...what about if he asks some samples or your previous work? No problem...get some samples from here and show. Later make sure you hire the same guy.


        There's lots of ways to earn money....but it's easier to say "i can't", "i don't know how", "show me", "do it for me".

        PS! Stop wasting your money buying WSO. Spend this money, so you will get it back. Improve your business...invest this money.


        Best,

        Margo

        Originally Posted by Sylent View Post

        I would be working insanely hard. I don't know exactly what to do anymore with the stage I am at. I have lost a lot of money from promises from WSO's. I really don't want to quit IM, I just want to understand it and learn how to succeed. Working at home on my computer would be a dream come true for me.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
          Originally Posted by Margo Tuul View Post

          .why not creating your own WSO? You think it's so hard? No!
          Yep, this is where you lost me.

          The WSO forum is so misunderstood IMO.

          It is a forum for marketing products that other marketers can use.

          Why one would assume that this person would decide to sell in the MMO niche baffles me. Especially when they are straight up saying they have not made any money online.

          Selling a WSO is not a universal answer.

          I know you mean well, but I've been around for a while, and when there is an influx of people with no real business behind them to start who just start slapping up offers it greatly cheapens that particular forum.

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          • Profile picture of the author DR's Fynest
            Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

            Yep, this is where you lost me.

            The WSO forum is so misunderstood IMO.

            It is a forum for marketing products that other marketers can use.

            Why one would assume that this person would decide to sell in the MMO niche baffles me. Especially when they are straight up saying they have not made any money online.

            Selling a WSO is not a universal answer.

            I know you mean well, but I've been around for a while, and when there is an influx of people with no real business behind them to start who just start slapping up offers it greatly cheapens that particular forum.


            Couldn't agree more Jill

            It seems a lot of people just see it as a "make quick money" place where as long as you have a WSO up, you will sell. It may produce a few sales sure, but it will make it obvious to those who buy a sub-par product that the product owner lacks any real experience.



            To the original poster, I believe John Taylor has made you a good offer.

            One way you can repay him back is offering to do some work for him. Can you write articles? Would you be able to build backlinks for him if he showed you how?

            By showing him you are willing to put in work in exchange for guidance and assistance developing a plan of attack, it's more likely for him (or anyone else for that matter) to accept your request.

            Like he said, ball is in your court. How bad do you want it is up to you
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  • Profile picture of the author Leonsroarteam
    I know what you are going through. It's difficult if you don't have anybody properly guiding you. If you visit my website I'll show you what I'm talking about. After all, shouldn't education be free? Thats what I think anyways
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylent
    Well I only bought 3 WSO's and also a course else were (mobile monopoly) that is were I lost most my money as all his plans failed very bad for me,

    I also got another WSO here that promised at least $100 a day, I have spent quite a lot on getting backlinks, a lot of time on advertising, and the site I made from the guide hasn't even gotten me a penny yet. I'm just looking for some one who can help me out personally. Help me out with sure ways that don't require me to spend a lot of money to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author leadmonster
    Message me and we shall get busy. Hint Software, Software, backlinks, keywords and lots of writing..all these warriors here have great points. You need to soak up what they say and take action for that $100 a day or even $50 a day up be possible.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Here's the problem:

      The site "not making a penny" is perhaps the same "my first site" that you purchased and needed help uploading one week ago? It takes time to get a site to profit - and one week is nothing.

      While you are asking for a mentor here you are browsing the "newbie friendly - guaranteed income" WSOs at the moment.

      You seem willing to work - but you need to get real and learn the basics and you haven't done that.

      why not creating your own WSO
      Worst recommendation I've seen on the WF for some time.

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      • Profile picture of the author Sylent
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        You seem willing to work - but you need to get real and learn the basics and you haven't done that.
        What exactly are the basics?
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Some basics are listed below but the focus will change depending on HOW you work online. Affiliate marketers will need to do different tasks than adsense publishers. Product creation involves launches and promotion that's different from selling affiliate products.

          You need ONE method or ONE proven (not a "great idea" but a full step by step process by someone who is already successful) method and you need to keep going to the end and give it time to start working.

          If you try to do it all or do a little of this and some of that - you end up more confused. You don't have to know it all - just enough to get started and then learn enough to go to the next step.

          niche research
          keyword research
          evaluating competition
          building a site or wp blog and adding content to it over time
          onsite and offsite SEO techniques
          writing good content
          building a responsive list

          There are many small details to learn in each of the above. You can't go far without some knowledge of the work involved in building a business and creating a presence online.

          You can hire someone to do backlinks - but you need to know how to do them as well and what links will help and which are useless. And you need to understand links don't show up immediately.

          Finding a niche where people are looking for info or products is crucial but many newbies jump into the "how to make money niche" and are quickly disappointed.

          I can see you are motivated and willing to work and I hate to see someone jumping from one make money-easy-WSO to the next because it won't work. That said, there are some really good WSOs once you know what path you are going to take.

          Think of IM as a process -because that's how you get to profit.

          kay
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  • Profile picture of the author buffstical
    Banned
    I also need avery good mentor
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  • Profile picture of the author ayma
    I do not have a WSO to offer you, but I can certainly help you establish a reputable, profit making business if you are up for it.

    But you will have to work for it.

    As someone pointed out, education should be free.
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  • Profile picture of the author sfmmentor
    Stylent,

    All newbies would love to make money quickly but you are being unrealistic.
    Stop looking for the so called magic formula and start by investing in yourself ie start learning, become an expert at a certain strategy and then move on to the next one ie SEO, article writing, ezines etc...etc the list goes on....then you are in a position to brand yourself.
    Once you start getting respect for knowing all the tips etc on how to market online people will start to want to listen to you and read your comments etc you can then give some value to your community eg. Facebook My Space etc then you are in a position to start building lists, leads of people that will want to look at what you might have to offer.....you must form relationships with people and earn respect. This will take time. Without a good list you will find it hard to make real money

    I hope this helps and I wish you the very best
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  • Profile picture of the author UltimateSolutions
    Hello Sylent, I can imagine that you must be pretty confused with all the information provided from other warrior members and the WSOs' that you have received.
    Sometimes it can all be intimidating at times as well. Believe me when I say money can be made online regardless of the products, information, or services that you offer.
    There are no short cuts or secrets to making money online. However, you will receive information, WSO's that can be deceiving at times. People will do anything if they feel it would be beneficial to themselves.

    I have been in your shoes and understand how frustrating it can all be. You do have a hosting account so you are off to a good start already.

    One of your main concerns is getting your sites indexed. There are so many factors when it comes to getting indexed it is not funny.
    #1 keywords or key phrases.
    #2 finding your competition who they are and how popular are they. There are many sites that offer tools to find out who they are and how many backlinks they have. Sylent, Always keep in mind as rule of thumb. New sites do not get indexed straight away.
    Believe it or not the sites age does have a significant role in the search engines. Sometimes it can take six months and up to a year to get indexed.
    In the meantime if you would like me to take a look at your site and offer some tips I would be glad to do so. I would mainly be looking at your source code for keywords and Meta tags.

    If you would like some more information regarding your post send me a PM


    P.S Kay King, Would be a good choice! She pretty much hit the nail on the head. However, There are many very good sources to buy Niche sites (Complete) all you would need is a $10
    keyword or should i say subject based keyword or keyphrase URl. Niche Sites are $17.00 to $35.00
    See: CashCow: http://www.warriorforum.com/members/cashcow.html or her site http://www.nicheplrarticlepacks.com

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Mike -

      I have no problem with buying sites - but I think you have to know something about sites before you take that path.

      Buying a site isn't wise if you don't know how to change it, add to it to update it, etc - but it can be a great way to add to your site inventory.

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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    before you get a mentor ask the most important thing.

    Am i ready to take action on what my mentor will bring to the table.

    I have coached and mentored people and even some in here. But only one has taken my word and done something with it. Infact one of his first lauches bought in over 5k. WHY?

    well he pulled out his finger and stoped whining and actually did something with his time.

    Built a list, wham, got jv partners wham, got 3 videos together without my help wham

    launch day came and WHAM...5k. Not bad at all. But he took massive action. So Like i said, before you start looking around for the mentor to the be all and end all to your problems are you ready to take massive action, and not give up.

    I think the answer for at least 95% of people is a big FAT NO im afriad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paulwilson123
    Hi Guys

    A lot of good replys....

    My advice is to:

    1. step back,
    2. take a deep breath,
    3. get your mindset right i.e I will be succesful with my online business,
    4. search for mentors online (The Warrior Forum)
    5. e mail them some questions, ask on the WF if anybody has heard of them and take it from there!

    Sometimes you can get to a point where you feel mentally exhausted and you have information overload!

    Trust me we all go through this!

    keep at it and it will happen!

    Best of luck
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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
      I would say to OP Sylent & Bufftical, that you should spend some months perusing the forum first. I'm going to make a cautious assumption that (judging by both your "join" dates) you've only been here a few days.

      There was a recent post from someone - a "newb" (I'll post the URL if I can find it again) who'd spent a couple of years just reading this forum; observing, taking notes, and ACTING upon what they'd read. Then they joined the forum, to express thanks for being able to capitalize on all they'd learned!

      Can either of YOU say that you've been doing all that during the last couple of years?
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    You have not failed you just have not found out what works yet
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