Questions For The Writers

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So far almost all of my writing as been for Textbroker. I generally like how the site works. I like having so many options to pick from and always having something available to write. Their pay is rather low though... and I would deal with it if they had more constant business. Currently there is almost nothing up that I can write. (I was rated a 3 when I signed up do to my lack of comma knowledge, which I have been trying my best to learn about since.) I have thought about putting an ad up here in Warriors For Hire but am currently unable to as my Paypal account got locked a few days ago. I am still waiting for them to look into my fraud claim.

So I'm wondering, how do you guys market yourself and find jobs? Personally I have had no luck with Elance and Odesk. I was thinking about making a website to advertise my services once my Paypal is unlocked and I can buy a new domain though I have never actually seen a writer's website to know about the best way to put one together.

Any suggestions would be very helpful. Currently my goal is to find a way to earn $100 per week. That would be enough to easily pay the extra household expenses not currently covered. I'm hoping through writing that won't be too difficult.
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  • Profile picture of the author MissLauraCatella
    Hi Amanda,

    I've used Textbroker too, it's nice to have as an option to earn a quick buck.

    Demand Studios pays a pretty high flat rate per article, $15/400 words or so. You've got to submit a resume and writing sample. Be sure to tailor an author's resume for them, a solid sample, and you should be accepted within 1-2 days.

    You can definitely offer your services through your own website and here on the Warrior Forum. Set up a pricing structure you're comfortable with, bulk packaging may work well for you.

    You can also earn on your writing for yourself. Develop your own product, book and sell it through your own site or here on the WF. You can also write up article packages and sell the Private Label Rights so others can fix them to their liking then use them. You can also create your own blog on any topic you like and earn through affiliate marketing or selling ad space. These are more long term strategies but when seen through, are the most profitable.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
    Hi, there is a lot of changes in the freelance world due to Google's update and such. You can make money as a writer, but you have to market yourself. I have a website that I put up to market myself as a professional writer (freelancewritingprofessional.com). Also, start thinking of yourself as a professional writer. I will give you more info in a PM if you like. But start thinking about a website - the biggest deal is to market, network, network, and network. You may have to start off slowly to build up your portfolio, etc. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Honestly I've never written a resume of any kind. How exactly do you tailor one towards writing?

    I do have a website I'm working on with a friend, that one in my sig for work at home mothers. I will be writing for it along with two friends of mine who are mothers. We plan on doing product reviews later to make money from affiliate marketing.

    And I would really appreciate that Julie. I'm finding I really enjoy writing. I would love to make a career out of it. It wasn't until recently I realized it was actually possible to make very much money from writing outside of novels.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      Honestly I've never written a resume of any kind. How exactly do you tailor one towards writing?

      I do have a website I'm working on with a friend, that one in my sig for work at home mothers. I will be writing for it along with two friends of mine who are mothers. We plan on doing product reviews later to make money from affiliate marketing.

      And I would really appreciate that Julie. I'm finding I really enjoy writing. I would love to make a career out of it. It wasn't until recently I realized it was actually possible to make very much money from writing outside of novels.
      I just sent you a PM. Most people will not want a resume, but samples instead. But, there are lots of examples for writing resumes out there if you do a search. There are freelance writers that make a real living, but most of them write for real clients willing to pay $35 plus for a 400 word article. There is a section here on Offline marketing - which is another route to consider.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissLauraCatella
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      Honestly I've never written a resume of any kind.
      For Demand Studios, tailor an objective specific to writing content for DS, which can leverage your X years of online writing experience.

      Then list your experience with TextBroker and any other online content writing. You'd also include any work published under your own name. Detail the topics in which you're most proficient. Also, note any skills that you have that you can write about.

      Your resume for DS need not exceed one page. I really like DS because the pay is great compared to most other article writing. And once you get a feel for the DS system, you'll earn much faster. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Would you suggest having an online writing portfolio, a text one to email, or both? I've had people say that building one online is best, others say to include all your information in the body of an email, and others say to put together a packet of some kind in pdf form and attach it.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Thanks, that actually helps a lot to see your website. Gives me more of an idea of what I would need to try and put together.
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  • Profile picture of the author jayshankard
    AmandaT, as you are from US, the best company or opportunity for you is to write for yahoo content network, they pay big and they have a lot of work for everyone on their network. With some trial and error you could be earning as average as $100 for one article of 2000 to 4000 words. It will take time for you to reach there but yahoo gives you all the time and help for it. Yahoo name is enough for the fact, but they provide bulk work for everyone on their network, you have the option to check other peoples work (people who are earning $100 per article) and learn and copy their methods. You can spend your whole life with them and make a very good earning to support your lifestyle.

    But they pay for US residents only, other country residents can write for them but won't get paid (exceptions may be found).
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    • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
      Originally Posted by jayshankard View Post

      AmandaT, as you are from US, the best company or opportunity for you is to write for yahoo content network, they pay big and they have a lot of work for everyone on their network. With some trial and error you could be earning as average as $100 for one article of 2000 to 4000 words. It will take time for you to reach there but yahoo gives you all the time and help for it. Yahoo name is enough for the fact, but they provide bulk work for everyone on their network, you have the option to check other peoples work (people who are earning $100 per article) and learn and copy their methods. You can spend your whole life with them and make a very good earning to support your lifestyle.

      But they pay for US residents only, other country residents can write for them but won't get paid (exceptions may be found).
      Interesting - I have never heard of this.. ?? Anyone else?
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Never heard of yahoo content network...

    I'll definitely look into DS and getting my own website set up once I can afford a new domain. Thanks for your help. Any more suggestions is always very helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    I should check out DS myself....

    I've mainly used the Warriors for Hire section. I admit the pay isnt anywhere near $15/400 words though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kecia
    I also agree with creating a resume and applying to Demand Studios. If you have been with Textbroker for at least a few months, you should have the credentials to get hired on with Demand. Be sure to give a good writing sample, and it helps if it's a "How to" formatted article similar to what you would find on eHow.com (which is owned by Demand). Be sure to state your Textbroker experience as well as any you have writing for private clients. Also include any education you have with writing, such as a college English class.

    Also, there is Constant Content. This site allows you to publish your articles and decide how much you want to charge for them. There is a section of requests from other users on the site that can help guide you on which topics are more likely than others to sell.

    It is also a good idea to have an online portfolio offering your services and samples. If you set it up with Wordpress, you can have a testimonial page where your clients can leave their feedback regarding working with you. It would be like submitting comments, but you would be asking for their experiences with you so potential clients could see how happy others have been with your work. Also, provide 2-3 samples of the different kinds of writing you can do, whether it be blog posts, articles, etc. Post sample content in a variety of niches so clients can see you can write about a number of subjects.

    Once your portfolio is up, add a link to it in your signature here and become active on the forum, particularly in threads that discuss articles and other content. You can also find private clients on

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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Any suggestions for setting up an online portfolio without my own domain? I do plan on buying one but until they unfreeze my paypal I can't buy another one. Really wishing I had gotten it when I bought my first one and my hosting. >_<
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      Any suggestions for setting up an online portfolio without my own domain? I do plan on buying one but until they unfreeze my paypal I can't buy another one. Really wishing I had gotten it when I bought my first one and my hosting. >_<
      Did you try calling. there seems to be alot paypal freezing lately. It happen to me on a big launch...and just called them and now everything is back and fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    I'm okay with it. I took web design classes in school... but it was mostly html and I'm getting the hang of wordpress. Thanks for all of the advice!
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Ya, I called. I had to file a fraud report, they said that I had an account when I was 16 that was -$800.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Finally got the paypal thing figured out and bought writingbyamanda.com... I have wordpress on it now since I've been learning to use it. Would just using html work better for something like this? I know how to use html and use dreamweaver and stuch. Otherwise I need to pick a good theme for wordpress.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kecia
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      Finally got the paypal thing figured out and bought writingbyamanda.com... I have wordpress on it now since I've been learning to use it. Would just using html work better for something like this? I know how to use html and use dreamweaver and stuch. Otherwise I need to pick a good theme for wordpress.
      Wordpress is excellent for a portfolio site due to its simplicity. Just create pages such as "About" "Samples" "Services" "Testimonials" and "Contact."

      Use the Contact Form 7 plugin to easily create a form for your contact page. You can search for it in your WP admin under the Plugins section.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      Finally got the paypal thing figured out and bought writingbyamanda.com... I have wordpress on it now since I've been learning to use it. Would just using html work better for something like this? I know how to use html and use dreamweaver and stuch. Otherwise I need to pick a good theme for wordpress.
      Good job on getting your site up! I would get a theme. There are plenty of free ones or premium ones available. I use Thesis on most of mine, but there are good themes that are free. You may want to start there. It is good that you hot your own domain though! You are on your way now!
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  • Profile picture of the author sweetria
    hai... is the standard of demand studios too high?
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    I checked it out. The way it works is there is a small assignment board of articles you can get instant pay for. It is rather small. Other than that you can submit articles on almost anything and send them in. They will decide if they want to pay you anything up front, or they may decide to pay you depending on page views. The average for that is $1/1000 page views and you will receive that as long as the article is posted online and getting views.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      I checked it out. The way it works is there is a small assignment board of articles you can get instant pay for. It is rather small. Other than that you can submit articles on almost anything and send them in. They will decide if they want to pay you anything up front, or they may decide to pay you depending on page views. The average for that is $1/1000 page views and you will receive that as long as the article is posted online and getting views.
      Don't waste your time. DS is a pain too for the little pay. I wrote for them, but then they just got ridiculous with silly editing. I mainly just have decent residual from them. $15 an article is NOT a lot of money for what they require. Maybe in the IM world - but as I mentioned in the PM, look at yourself as a professional. I get paid double that and I don't have to "prove" myself with a test, etc. Fiverr is a good way to market yourself even though you are waaaaay under paid. It is more of a way to market yourself.

      Lastly, seek out mentors, other writers who make a decent living.

      You have to remember, people are making money somehow off your writing - no product without content - so why shouldn't you get paid for the significant part of the end product? Email me if you want to chat more. I gave you a couple of my writing sites !
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        We have to step back and fully understand the business models we are engaging ourselves in. As for DS, like you had said, they will pay a writer $15 for a piece of content, however, that same piece of content will earn hundreds of dollars over its lifetime when monetized with affiliate links and Google Adsense.

        Unless fiverr is needed to develop a thread of 'social proof', it would be very difficult for a writer to sustain themselves just by doing $5 gigs.

        Originally Posted by Julie McElroy View Post

        Don't waste your time. DS is a pain too for the little pay. I wrote for them, but then they just got ridiculous with silly editing. I mainly just have decent residual from them. $15 an article is NOT a lot of money for what they require. Maybe in the IM world - but as I mentioned in the PM, look at yourself as a professional. I get paid double that and I don't have to "prove" myself with a test, etc. Fiverr is a good way to market yourself even though you are waaaaay under paid. It is more of a way to market yourself.

        Lastly, seek out mentors, other writers who make a decent living.

        You have to remember, people are making money somehow off your writing - no product without content - so why shouldn't you get paid for the significant part of the end product? Email me if you want to chat more. I gave you a couple of my writing sites !
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  • Profile picture of the author shafiqkamal
    Hi,

    Great tips from the warriors here. I'm not really a good writer but I'm finding ways to improve my writing and make my content to have much more flavour. Usually I would write a content with simple words so that readers will not have a hard time reading it.

    However, I would like to take my writing to a higher level. Any writers can recommend me or share some tips on how to improve my writing skills? Ebooks? Courses? Tips?


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    • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
      Originally Posted by shafiqkamal View Post

      Hi,

      Great tips from the warriors here. I'm not really a good writer but I'm finding ways to improve my writing and make my content to have much more flavour. Usually I would write a content with simple words so that readers will not have a hard time reading it.

      However, I would like to take my writing to a higher level. Any writers can recommend me or share some tips on how to improve my writing skills? Ebooks? Courses? Tips?


      Regards,
      Shafiq
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    That DS idea sounds interesting, although $15 is borderline for me. What volume is to expect in case someone gets accepted....eg. how much can i write/realistically make with them?
    (I can write high quality content FAST...but only one or two articles/week would not be worth it)
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Marshall
      Hey Amanda...I have been reading through this thread here. I have a long running thread in the Warriors For Hire section for writing services. You can get a little more money for your work here than you can at Textbroker.

      I haven't seen anyone mention this method I'm about to share with you. Go to allofcraigs.com. This site lets you search every city on Craigslist. Search for postings on Craigslist of people looking for writers for writing projects. I would contact the people who have just posted their ads first. I am planning to do this tomorrow myself as I am home for a few weeks.

      There are always people on Craigslist looking for writers. If you are a good writer, you should be able to find work there, and you can probably get paid more than you would at Textbroker.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kecia
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      That DS idea sounds interesting, although $15 is borderline for me. What volume is to expect in case someone gets accepted....eg. how much can i write/realistically make with them?
      (I can write high quality content FAST...but only one or two articles/week would not be worth it)
      There are many writers there that write 10-15 articles a day. You have to be one that can write about car mechanics, home improvement, computer hardware, and any other off the wall topic. Plus, the titles you can write about are VERY unorganized, so don't expect to easily find something suitable to write about in 5 minutes. Although they have categories, you will find titles about the above subjects in the Health and Fitness category every day.

      Your articles will pass through copy editors before you can get paid. Many writers stopped writing there (myself included) because the assumptions/beliefs/demands of the editors vary so much, and you never know who will be editing your article every day. It's not worth the hassle to get one of the those dreaded editors who expects you to rewrite the entire article over, even when the other 50 you submitted went through just fine.

      If you learn their styles, don't mind search for about an hour to find topics, and can write about virtually anything, you can make some nice money with them. DS is really one of those places that you either love or hate.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Thank you for the information. I think my plan for now is to get my website ready so I have it to send to people, then I will have for when I email people about prospective jobs on craigslist or other sites. Once I get a little more money I would love to post up on Warriors for Hire as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
    I'm another one who is meh about DS. In theory you should be able to write 6 articles a day and get $100 and they pay twice a week, right?

    But what people are saying about finding a topic is absolutely right. When 'how to fix cooling rods on an Epsilon 2485i mini-refrigerator' and 'how to configure an Audi8's key system' in the 'home and family' section, it's hard to wade through and find one you can write in a reasonable amount of time. They title based on keywords, not on what makes sense.

    They start beginners out with only ehow articles it seems, so you have to find 'tools/ingredients/things you'll need' for every article. If you're writing an article on 'how to communicate with your dad' that can get messy because then you've got the editors to deal with.

    I have not even made $30 bucks there because it was simply too time consuming for what the pay is. I keep thinking to try it again....maybe today lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author meetmanan
    You can achieve you goal but just you need to concentrate on quality service with some of review copies like giveaway to check your work. Then they come to know about your quality work and may place orders. It takes too much patience to get client but after you get you need to manage relationship to get into future deals.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Lots of great help guys, thanks! In the end I have a few sites I'm signed up for. Textbroker, I'm signing up for DemandStudios, and I'm on ConstantContent. That should keep me busy between finding my own clients. I have my own website set up and as soon as it is approved my Warriors for Hire thread will be up!
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    • Profile picture of the author MissLauraCatella
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      Lots of great help guys, thanks! In the end I have a few sites I'm signed up for. Textbroker, I'm signing up for DemandStudios, and I'm on ConstantContent. That should keep me busy between finding my own clients. I have my own website set up and as soon as it is approved my Warriors for Hire thread will be up!
      Excellent!! You will be VERY busy. Now pay attention to what earns you the most and makes you the happiest, and scale that up as much as you can. Congrats on all of the action you've taken, it should serve as a nice inspiration to other writers.
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  • Profile picture of the author contentwriter1205
    If you want to open a service website, you can open a Joomla site. It has meta keyword facilities, and your site will be automatically ranked in google. I'm sure you'll get some gigs out of that. People like professional business sites than individual freelancers, as they think they are reliable.
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