by true900 Banned
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Hello there. Im in internet marketing for a quite long now, i know some ways to make money, im reading this forum, i know some stuff, etc. So im not really a beginner anymore here. I have tryed quite some methods to make money online, bought many wso's, and havent made any money yet. Now im pretty much out of money, and everything I would really like to make money online, but i just cant seem to make any money. So what would you guys suggest?
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  • Profile picture of the author SasaIlic
    STOP buying WSO's and pick just ONE method. One method only and concentrate on making money. Don't over think, just do it. Most of the methods on this forum works, pick and start working.


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  • Profile picture of the author HowieM
    Originally Posted by true900 View Post

    Hello there. Im in internet marketing for a quite long now, i know some ways to make money, im reading this forum, i know some stuff, etc. So im not really a beginner anymore here. I have tryed quite some methods to make money online, bought many wso's, and havent made any money yet. Now im pretty much out of money, and everything I would really like to make money online, but i just cant seem to make any money. So what would you guys suggest?
    If you don't want to invest anything (not that you really have to to start out) I suggest Fiverr. A few hundred a month if you do alright.

    And don't feel bad about buying so many WSO's. It took my 3rd one till I had a light bulb go off. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      You cannot make money online.

      You have to earn it.

      Think about what you can do to earn money. Then, write down your options and pick one.
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      • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
        The answer is here:
        http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...ml#post3825459

        The main problem with working for money is the results. They will never be more than mediocre if you keep trying to turn money into a reason when that's not what it is. You have to work for results if you want to make any real money because that's what it is. Money is a result, not a reason.

        Everyone who works for money is working for nothing. Look around and you'll see the results if you ignore the words of hope and don't listen to any more promises of a better tomorrow.
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        • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
          Originally Posted by HowieM View Post

          If you don't want to invest anything (not that you really have to to start out) I suggest Fiverr. A few hundred a month if you do alright.

          And don't feel bad about buying so many WSO's. It took my 3rd one till I had a light bulb go off. :rolleyes:
          OMG THREE, like only 3? I'm scared of you...good grief I must have 33 at least but whose counting? Anyway, I've got a challenging idea for you if you've got the drive to get what you want. What's up with all the "I can't" anyway. There's no such thing and if you think money is in your way, it's not anymore.

          You don't need any money but you do need time and money can't buy time. Time can be a problem if you never stick to one thing because it's taking too long to work. WHAT exactly do you need? I've got more tools and resources than you can imagine so just name it. You said you do graphics, right? Well, guess what? I just remembered this site: www.productioncarcare.com

          It needs to be fixed up and products added. If you can do that, I've got about 2,000 customers that I can email a grand re-opening notice to and they will buy and you will get paid too. Do you know of any automotive related products that would make a car detailers job easier to do? Find something like that and the commission is all yours. The accessories like tools, brushes, hoses, chamois, buffers and stuff, not the chemical products [we manufacture those] www.productioncarcare.net is the other site until this one is fixed so there you have it. Problem Solved.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    Pull back and look at the big picture you have gotten yourself into. Go back and look at those WSO's and see what is truly doable at your level and what you will need to look into again when you have more experience.

    Focus. Stop spending money on shiny new things. Do you have a website and a hosting account? Do you know anything about niche selection? Can you provide a service that is in demand right here in the forum? If not can you resell a service that someone else can provide for you? I'll need a bit more specific information to provide you with a more specific answer.

    One of the best ways to start generating income online is to find a niche that is experiencing a problem and offer the market a solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author true900
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    Yes lastly i have been trying with SEO, but i couldnt rank my website to top 100 for easy low competition keyword i was like oO....also there is no problem i can do some thinfs, but i cant sell that...i can do graphics but i cant find buyers....
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    • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
      Originally Posted by true900 View Post

      Yes lastly i have been trying with SEO, but i couldnt rank my website to top 100 for easy low competition keyword i was like oO....also there is no problem i can do some thinfs, but i cant sell that...i can do graphics but i cant find buyers....
      What was the keyword (you can PM if you want)? I remember when I first started I thought the keyword I chose was going to be super easy--turned out to be a bitch to rank. I didn't understand competition levels and I would assume maybe that is whats going on here.

      Also what kind of link building did you do? Did the site have unique content, spun content, or PLR content?

      And if you are looking for those interested in buying graphics, hit up the Warrior for Hire and Classifieds section. You'll find many others providing those services--and they wouldn't be in there if there was no demand.
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    Build your own mailing list, create your own product
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  • Profile picture of the author true900
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    Well yes but i cant even afford to invest in war room membership at the momment to post my work
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Hargreave
    Hi True.

    I have no doubts this situation is very...frustrating for you. Believe me son I don't think there is one person here on the forum that has not been in your shoes including myself. Rest assured that we are here to help, and I'd like to share a couple of methods that I have taught that seemed to remove that financial mental block you seem to have. I invite anyone else that may be having similar issues to follow along in the exercise as well.

    The good news is judging by what you have posted. Is that you have all the tools you need in front of you. The difficult parts is over I promise you. I want you to go through the steps I am about to list here, don't skip anything. If you get stuck I want you to condition yourself to focus on the step until you find a solution. Since I am not with you I will trust in good faith that you do this.

    Step One:

    First I'd like to ask you to get yourself a sheet of paper, loose leaf if possible.This paper is going to give you a direction to follow in your financial life.

    At the top of this sheet I would like you to write Financial Goals & today's date. Now I want you to write at least 5 financial goals you would like to achieve in the next 30, 60, or 90 days. The choice is your on the amount of time but I won't allow you to go any further than 90 days.

    The 5 goals MUST be clear, exact, in the first person, and positive. For readers sake I will use the following example:

    I earn $4,500 by June 1st ,2011

    Lets take a closer look into this statement so that no mistakes are made here. The word "I" is followed by an action in this case "earn". Never write in the tense that signifies wanting. For example:

    I would like to have $4,500 in the next month.

    There is a large mental factor between the two statements, the first statement will gear the brain in to achieving the goal, while the latter is nothing more than a pleasant thought.

    Step Two

    Out of the 5 goals you have just written, I want you to pick the one that would have the biggest impact on your life if it was accomplished in 24 hours time. Circle it now if you would.

    Step Three

    On the back of that piece of paper. I want you to write down the goal in the form of a open ended question. For example:

    How can I earn $4,500 by June 1st ,2011?

    Why is this important you might ask. Well when you ask yourself an open ended question your brain begins to analyze the question in more detail and helps you build an archive of answers. Which is key to the next step. A question you do not want to ask is something such as:

    How can I earn $4,500 in the next month at my job?

    This close ended question automatically limits the brain's ability to properly anatomize the goal. It may seem like common sense not to do this but unfortunately the majority people do and I have corrected a handful of students whom to this day still do it.

    Step Four

    Once you have the proper question written down, write down a list of answers your come up with. No less that 20 no more than 25 answers.

    Why is this important. As I stated before, and open ended question will force the brain to come up with an archive of possible answers. However the draw back is, many of those possibilities are forgotten with in the first 7 seconds of it's inception. It's important to write the possibilities down as best you can so that you can come back to them when you finish the list.

    Step Five


    After you have complied your list it's time to get started and act on what you have written. In most cases the list will start from the most obvious choices to things you never truly thought about before. Select which options you want and act daily. Never think about "what if's" simply follow the directions you have written down in front of you.

    I've been teaching this method for years and I have yet to see this not work for anyone. So I encourage you to get started immediately if you'd like to see a dramatic change in the next few days. Best of luck to you son.
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  • Profile picture of the author true900
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    The problem is i cant get any traffic to my offers/websites. I have some ebooks online, i can do some services, etc. but i cant find people who will buy that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Hargreave
      Originally Posted by true900 View Post

      The problem is i cant get any traffic to my offers/websites. I have some ebooks online, i can do some services, etc. but i cant find people who will buy that.
      What are you doing exactly to get visitors to your website? Maybe I can help you fine tune your efforts.
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      • Profile picture of the author true900
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        Originally Posted by Jacob Hargreave View Post

        What are you doing exactly to get visitors to your website? Maybe I can help you fine tune your efforts.
        Well the very good thing to me is SEO, so im trying to rank on google, but i cant get even in top 100 for a phrase im targeting :S But other way of getting people to buy your product...hmm i dont know any cool.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jacob Hargreave
          My apologies True for the slow reply, if you wouldn't mind telling me this target phrase I can probably help you find phrases that have low competition and moderate monthly searches.

          If you have not already I want you to try and find phrases that have roughly 1,000 - 1,500 search results when you do your research. I find it a bit easier to get to the first page of Google this way.

          Although some may argue that it might not be enough traffic for their tastes, if you have 3 to 5 different keyword phrases that have low competition and moderate amounts of searches monthly I think you will see a increase in sales and traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    You really shouldn't be spending money on offers, tools, or Gurus until you're somewhat established and knowledgeable yourself. Otherwise you're just going to be throwing money away. You can find pretty much everything you need on forums or spread across various articles. Just make a solid business plan, say a 12-week campaign, and follow it closely. You WILL see results.
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  • Profile picture of the author true900
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    Hey there Jacob. Nono, dont be, im glad to see a reply My current keyword gets arround 1000 monthly searchers. The competition seemd to be pretty weak too :S Well my website is kinda optimized for only 1 keyword (URL, keywords, articles...). So if i would go for new keywords id most likely create new website(s).
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Hargreave
      The friendly boys and girls down at the "lab" so to speak gave me a basic run down of the keyword and possible alternatives and will try to update me further on their findings. To save time I think i'll just paste the full report here.

      Mr. Hargreave ,the initial keyword sent is off the charts (you can see for yourself here) we took the liberty of giving you a list of less competitive key word phrases you can try. The market is very saturated so there wasn't much we could fine, we will update you on anything else we find.

      "Webtraffic" About 1,210,000 results monthly
      "Web traffic" About 10,700,000 results monthly
      "webtraffic tips" About 1,750 results monthly -recommended
      "targeted webtraffic" About 5,680 results monthly -tough but do able.

      Thanks,

      Albert


      Hopefully this initial report will help you a bit more.
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  • Profile picture of the author true900
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    Hey, thanks for anwser. But i really dont understand that. The keyword i sent you was has really low competition (low and week). Also thanks for getting me those additional keywords, will check arround.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Hargreave
      Originally Posted by true900 View Post

      Hey, thanks for anwser. But i really dont understand that. The keyword i sent you was has really low competition (low and week). Also thanks for getting me those additional keywords, will check arround.
      Hi True,

      How exactly did you ascertain the key word you are using is low competition, in addition to that question what is you definition of low competition numbers wise?

      The numbers we came up with on this end show that your keyword is in all actuality extremely high in competitive standards. Here is how we ascertain our high and low scores when we find a keyword that we would like to rank in.

      Search engine results must be 1,000 to 1,500 results. This results in quick indexing and almost guarantee's being on the first page of Google search results.

      Anything over the 5,000 mark is extremely difficult to get your site placed anywhere near the front page of google. The results of the keyword you gave me was well over one million. Which would indeed explain why you have not been seeing results.
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      • Profile picture of the author true900
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        Originally Posted by Jacob Hargreave View Post

        Hi True,

        How exactly did you ascertain the key word you are using is low competition, in addition to that question what is you definition of low competition numbers wise?

        The numbers we came up with on this end show that your keyword is in all actuality extremely high in competitive standards. Here is how we ascertain our high and low scores when we find a keyword that we would like to rank in.

        Search engine results must be 1,000 to 1,500 results. This results in quick indexing and almost guarantee's being on the first page of Google search results.

        Anything over the 5,000 mark is extremely difficult to get your site placed anywhere near the front page of google. The results of the keyword you gave me was well over one million. Which would indeed explain why you have not been seeing results.
        Hi there. Ohh well i was looking how many searches there are for keywords. I was reading, that it doesnt matter THAT MUCH number of websites competing, but the strength of top websites. Also i dont know where you get your information. When i tipe webtraffic tips (wich you recommended me) i get About 14,100,000 results, and for my keyword i get less than 1 mil.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jacob Hargreave
          Originally Posted by true900 View Post

          Hi there. Ohh well i was looking how many searches there are for keywords. I was reading, that it doesnt matter THAT MUCH number of websites competing, but the strength of top websites. Also i dont know where you get your information. When i tipe webtraffic tips (wich you recommended me) i get About 14,100,000 results, and for my keyword i get less than 1 mil.
          Very strange indeed. I looked at the information myself and the number of searches is extremely high, where as yesterday it was no more than 1,500 searches. It seems like this niche is becoming overly popular and competitive but not to worry there are ways around this set back.

          What I would recommend now is a selection of different keywords and phrases under the same niche. For example instead of "web traffic" we might use "website visitors" ,etc. Try to reword your phrases and keywords so that they still fit under your niche.
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          • Profile picture of the author true900
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            Originally Posted by Jacob Hargreave View Post

            Very strange indeed. I looked at the information myself and the number of searches is extremely high, where as yesterday it was no more than 1,500 searches. It seems like this niche is becoming overly popular and competitive but not to worry there are ways around this set back.

            What I would recommend now is a selection of different keywords and phrases under the same niche. For example instead of "web traffic" we might use "website visitors" ,etc. Try to reword your phrases and keywords so that they still fit under your niche.
            But i already have a domain name purchased, and no money for a new one. Also there are a few people told me that the keyword i am going for shouldnt be too hard to rank.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jacob Hargreave
              Originally Posted by true900 View Post

              But i already have a domain name purchased, and no money for a new one.
              Your domain wont be a major factor at all. So no worries on buying a new one. Nothing wrong with using different key words to get yourself noticed a little easier. Essentially its the same niche just worded differently when it comes to your articles, blogs, etc.
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              • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
                Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

                Just realize that everything you need you can get free free to start outside of hosting and a domain. Don't go buying anything you do not need until you get started. Then you can look into outsourcing things you are not good at. Personally I am no good at getting traffic so once I sell more articles I will likely pay someone to help me with that. For now I'm working hard and using methods I found by reading things here and asking for advice.
                Absolutely agree with one exception. FREE hosting is available for the asking. Anyone want some? I am looking for people with an owners mindset with NO MONEY - FLAT, FREAKIN BROKE but NOT as anyone's joke. I've been around real business owners all my life - seriously - it seems like forever. BUT . . . .

                NOT a single one of them ever had any money for the first few years, some 10 long years but NOW? Three decades later? Ask me where they are now. YOU already know HOW if you don't have any money and you're not afraid to admit it, risk it and ask for help because you know you need it - everyone does. EVERYONE.

                But only those who ask, receive. But don't get FREE twisted. NOTHING is ever free - priceless, yes. FREE? NO. You'll pay with your time and that's definitely NOT free. Those who won't trade resources for TIME, don't want or need your time. Why? No long term plans would be my first guess so where does that leave you? Hmm...

                Makes you wonder why every company in the World trades money for time - aka hiring employees. When you start a business online, why does everyone agree to pay with both time AND money? That price is so high, only about 5% can afford it. Making money is only a problem until you understand what money is and is not. Choose the answer: What is money? . . . a result or . . . a reason.
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                • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                  Originally Posted by true900 View Post

                  So what would you guys suggest?
                  I would suggest you stop asking about this month after month after month.

                  I would suggest you read your old posts with answers you've been given before.

                  I would suggest you stop flip flopping all over the place, believing something doesn't work when you have not fully implemented and given things nearly enough time to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Just realize that everything you need you can get free free to start outside of hosting and a domain. Don't go buying anything you do not need until you get started. Then you can look into outsourcing things you are not good at. Personally I am no good at getting traffic so once I sell more articles I will likely pay someone to help me with that. For now I'm working hard and using methods I found by reading things here and asking for advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    Originally Posted by true900 View Post

    Hello there. Im in internet marketing for a quite long now, i know some ways to make money, im reading this forum, i know some stuff, etc. So im not really a beginner anymore here. I have tryed quite some methods to make money online, bought many wso's, and havent made any money yet. Now im pretty much out of money, and everything I would really like to make money online, but i just cant seem to make any money. So what would you guys suggest?
    1) you really are not going to see results if you keep coming here crying about how many wso you have bought.

    2) Take actions

    3) Take action

    4) tack action.


    I use to be stuck in 1) many years ago, until i actually got off my fat arse and follow the person that gave me step 2) , 3) and 4)

    is it sinking in yet! LOL.

    oh and here is another one I posted a thread a few days ago

    5) stick to one thing and stop jumping around.

    Might be just waisting my breath,

    but I do wish you all the best.
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