Do you worry about giving your niche ideas away to article writing services?

by thedog
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Hi guys, well, like the title says... do you ever worry about giving your niche ideas away, when you hire article writers?

Am I being paranoid again?
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Most people you outsource articles to, aren't in a position to make moves on their own. Of course there are exceptions but you are probably pretty safe. It is no different than submitting the article and someone finding it. Your niches aren't safe whether you outsource or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ralf Skirr
    No, I would not worry about that.

    Most niches are far from being a secret anyway. Plus the people writing for an article writing service aren't the ones who seriously want to build their own niche business in most cases.

    You can't stop building your business just to keep secrets. A business not build is not worth much, even if the idea was gold.

    Ralf
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    • Profile picture of the author SuResearcher
      Yes, you are being paranoid

      You are willing to put in the time and effort to test if that niche idea turns out to be profitable. Some ideas are home runs right away, some take a little tweaking and testing and some are just duds.

      Generally speaking your article writers are not willing to put in the effort to get backlinks, test conversion rates, etc. And if they do decide they like your niche idea, all it means is that you just got another competitor. Get competitive and out market him.

      If you are still worried, you could spread your articles across different writers. This way no one person/company knows all the niches that you work in.
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  • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
    Anyone can steal your niche idea when your site goes live. Random internet surfers, competitors, even those who buy your products. But as someone else said, ideas without muscle are fairly useless.

    As a writer I can pretty much guarantee that most writers are too busy writing to steal ideas.
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    • Profile picture of the author ECMartin
      Uhm, even if you wrote the articles yourself, how were you going to build a business around the niche if noone was supposed to find out what the niche is?
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  • Profile picture of the author PLR Basket
    Anyways, giving your niche away to one writer or service is not enough to saturate it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      If "discussion history" here is anything by which to judge, most people will tell you not to worry about it, or even that you're being paranoid, on the grounds that writing services aren't marketers and are unlikely to choose to compete with you.

      However, in my very short time running an article-writing service for internet marketers, in 2008/9, I twice had clients to whom exactly this had happened in the past.

      I think it's a very realistic and legitimate concern, and one it would be naive entirely to ignore.
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      • Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        If "discussion history" here is anything by which to judge, most people will tell you not to worry about it, or even that you're being paranoid, on the grounds that writing services aren't marketers and are unlikely to choose to compete with you.

        However, in my very short time running an article-writing service for internet marketers, in 2008/9, I twice had clients to whom exactly this had happened in the past.

        I think it's a very realistic and legitimate concern, and one it would be naive entirely to ignore.
        I agree, but with perhaps a slightly different view. I wouldn't worry about the writer themselves using the information in the future (after-all, it's only one person). What I would worry about is them using this information to sell people niches, or write PLR based on my obscure niches that others wouldn't know about.

        The above is highly unlikely, but not impossible, though, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

          @ John,

          You're a brilliant man and you have good taste!

          RoD
          That's what I keep telling people... :p
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    I don't think most article writers will offer stiff competition. That said, I do wonder about it sometimes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    Which is all the more reason to find a writer that you trust and stick with him/her.

    This is the totally unbiased opinion of an article writer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    It's quite unlikely this would happen to you, but I wouldn't say it will never happen. For myself, I am too busy creating content to even think about stealing your ideas. Once the articles are out, they go straight into my client folder and I never look at them again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    Chameleon, you forgot to add this part in:

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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by thedog View Post

    Hi guys, well, like the title says... do you ever worry about giving your niche ideas away, when you hire article writers?

    Am I being paranoid again?
    Nope. I never worry about it. Even if they are good marketers. Why? Because I come from a place of abundance and believe there's plenty to go around. People steal ideas. That's never going to change. If you focus on your core business and take care of what's going to grow your business, more competition isn't going to bother you. I stick by what the late Cory Rudl preached over and over again:

    "Take care of your customers and the competition will take care of themselves."

    I've had many people copy my products, my websites, my sales copy, yet they very seldom know how to put ALL the pieces together to really make it work and convert well because they are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes. Do I monitor it, yes? But do I worry about it? Heck no.

    If a writer that I hire wants to dive into a niche that I'm in, hey, more power to them. Have at it and good luck, I tell them. Maybe we can JV together.......heheheh. It wouldn't be the first time or the last.

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Dog, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...

      With that out of the way, I'd go with Rod's answer.
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  • Profile picture of the author dhanediesil
    Originally Posted by thedog View Post

    Hi guys, well, like the title says... do you ever worry about giving your niche ideas away, when you hire article writers?

    Am I being paranoid again?
    TheDog

    Yes you are.

    Remember: the more you share, the more successful you will be.

    At the end of the day, people are lazy, so you can GIVE any of these writers you're working with your best idea, and if you gave it to 10, more than like 1, or maybe .5 of a person would try to implement it.

    Ultimately, there's nothing new under the sun but the faces walking the face of the Earth.

    So whatever your idea is, I'm willing to go out on a limb and bet someone has already did it, or thought about it. Whether they took action is the key.

    Boom!

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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Thanks guys... I'm just a little protective when I find a super hot niche.

      I guess, while it's possible, it's best to just get on with it and not worry about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        Thanks guys... I'm just a little protective when I find a super hot niche.

        I guess, while it's possible, it's best to just get on with it and not worry about it.
        Here's something else to think about. If you look at anyone having success online, in virtually every niche, they ARE being copied in one way, shape, or form. I look at Double Your Dating as one good example. I've seen dozens upon dozens of people copy their original squeeze page (and many wonder why it doesn't convert like it used to ha ha), even in 2011.

        So yes, definitely get on with it. You certainly want to monitor things like copyright and trademark infringement (or even patents if you have one or a patent-pending), but you don't want to be so "paranoid" that it will keep you from taking any meaningful action.

        @ John,

        You're a brilliant man and you have good taste!

        RoD
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  • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
    From the perspective of a writer, I wouldn't worry. From the perspective of a marketer, I'd only worry a little.

    If you're writing for cash, you're probably writing about three or four different topics every day. Heck, I've written about three very different things today (reminds me of a certain quote about six impossible things before breakfast ), and I'm switching gears for the fourth right now.

    You also are focused on short-term cash: research, write, get paid. Even for long-term cash, the process is this: do the research, write the articles, get paid, get good results for the client, get a referral or repeat business.

    This business model doesn't allow you to "snipe" niches. You don't have the time to build competing sites, figure out what their method is, copy it, promote it, and blah, blah, blah...

    There are exceptions, but it isn't the norm.

    If you're truly worried, give them a slightly different keyword or niche and customize it.

    For instance, if you're getting them to write about a certain brand of hearing aids, just tell them to write about behind-the-ear hearing aids, or Siemens hearing aids. Get the article back, replace "behind-the-ear" or "Siemens" with "Oticon" and you're off to the races.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jermaine Tabor
    Your site is going to be found most likely by some marketer unless you
    are doing sniper sites with no links.

    It's just a matter of when. If you're getting links there on someone
    elses site.

    Just go hard and turn out more quality content if you're paranoid.

    Of course outsource this from different sources.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosGotMoves
    Looks like you got plenty of great responses but I asked a similar question and was concerned about this very issue. It never prevented me from outsourcing work but I in my eyes it was similar to feeding your idea to a house cat or a lion. It's one thing to have IMers come across your site by chance and another to send your ideas, articles, and backlinking strategy directly to them. However, the overall response has been not to worry about, so I won't.

    But heres a link to it:

    Stealing a Niche Idea
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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
    My opinion - don't worry about it.

    I occasionally sign NDA agreements when I work with clients, but I am already in business for myself. I have no desire to go out and copy other people's work - freelancers aren't all the same...

    Don't be paranoid. If it happens, it happens. It's a compromise you have to be willing to accept!

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  • Profile picture of the author omk
    Not really. People are always focused on what they're doing.
    For example, a cake baker is more interested in how to sell more cakes, not how to sell more cake mixers. So cake bakers and cake mixer salesmen would be able to survive and help each other. While a cup cake guy would always pose a more immediate threat to a cake baker because he could easily learn how to bake cakes and steal the cake baker's clients, LOL

    Article writers, as a general rule are so focused on writing articles and growing that business that they don't have time to focus on anything else.
    Usually what happens is that when they move on to something else in internet marketing, they will also stop trying to write for others and just write for themselves.
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    • Profile picture of the author ewriter
      As a content provider, my clients' projects are their property. The value of my service is in crafting a tangible product to their specifications. While I can't speak for all writers, those with whom I associate take pride in client satisfaction, which means respecting boundaries. I wouldn't worry too much about having your ideas taken when you outsource.

      Another reassurance: The success or failure of an idea is largely dependent on the implementation. It's rarely the idea itself that succeeds or fails, but the skill you apply along the way. Even if someone tried to use one of your ideas, they don't possess the same savvy and marketing knowledge you possess. Ideas are abundant, but you are one of a kind.

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  • Profile picture of the author Affillionaire
    One thing I like to do is if it is a very competitive market or the product will be competitive, then hurry up and grab the .com, .net, or .org domain name then buy the content that way you have the domain name that holds more weight + the article.

    If they steal your ideas or rewrite or spin your content then that's ok. Because you'll already have what they need but can't have. That's the "keyword" domain.
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