Is Your 'From' Address Triggering Spam Filters?

15 years ago

I always wondered about some of the unusual email names from
the spam people. Now it makes sense.

But, I do get emails from xxxyglgidlaggd@whatever.com. I never
imagined it was from you, John.

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Lloyd Buchinski

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Zeus66

I'm a pretty thorough guy

And I enjoy that.

So I guess you changed your middle name and you are now johnaschwartz@gmail.com? That'll learn them to mess with you.

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Zach Crawley

15 years ago

Thanks for the info. Lucky mine only has 3 consonants in a row ..

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Bill Farnham 15 years ago

Originally Posted by zachcrawley

Thanks for the info. Lucky mine only has 3 consonants in a row ..

chcr...My math skills suck...

John,

Change your last name to Smith. Those emails always go through...

~Bill
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- Zach Crawley 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Bill Farnham
  
  chcr...My math skills suck...
  
  John,
  
  Change you last name to Smith. Those emails always go through...
  
  ~Bill
  
  haha. Got me there, I forgot R was one. :rolleyes:
  
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- Istvan Horvath 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Bill Farnham
  
  Change your last name to Smith.
  
  A better option would be Black.
  
  John B. Black - and only 5 consonants
  
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  Bill Farnham 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath
  
  A better option would be Black.
  
  John B. Black - and only 5 consonants
  
  Istvan,
  
  An even better one would be Bald, n'est-ce pas?
  
  John B. Bald - and only 4 consonants
  
  ~Bill
  
  (Luv ya Zeus )
  
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Coach Louisa

15 years ago

Very interesting. Let us know how it goes after you "fix" it.
Thanks for sharing!

Louisa

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Zeus66

15 years ago

Just an update from the Spam Assassin Wiki page that explains how this risk factor is triggered: Rules/FROM_LOCAL_NOVOWEL - Spamassassin Wiki

It has to be at least 7 consecutive consonants in the portion of your email address before the @ sign (localpart). Mine just happened to be exactly 7. Lucky me!

John

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entry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Zeus66

Well, I learned something today...

A lot of my emails to my opt-in list were ending up in spam folders. These are emails sent through Constant Contact and also Aweber. I'm a pretty thorough guy when it comes to figuring out causes, and I learned something that might affect some of you (not many, but possibly some), so I'm passing it along.

One of the spam triggers is having too many consecutive consonants in your 'From' and/or 'Reply To' email addresses in the header of your outgoing emails. Seems this is a common tactic used by spammers who make up bogus email addresses. They use things like: xxxyglgidlaggd@whatever.com

Well, lucky me. My name is John Schwartz and my email is: johnbschwartz@gmail.com. See all those consonants in a row? Yep. It was making my outgoing emails a lot more likely to trip spam filters.

D'oh!

So, I've fixed that problem. Haven't tested to see if it makes any difference, but I figured it might apply to some of you guys and gals, so wanted to pass it along.

Happy Trails!

John

So does that mean we have to make our aweber emails NOT xxxyglgidlaggd@whatever.com?

or xyentry34astw@aweber.com?

a} Where do we change this 'from' address, on our aweber lists?
is it on the LIST settings?

b} and if we include a NON spammy address, how about
Support@UrLName.com?

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iSoftware 15 years ago

Moral of the story?
1. we all need to be more proactive about gettign whitelisted
2. build a mobile list to avoid spam filters - lol

nice tip though....
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Zeus66

15 years ago

Originally Posted by entry

So does that mean we have to make our aweber emails NOT xxxyglgidlaggd@whatever.com?

or xyentry34astw@aweber.com?

a} Where do we change this 'from' address, on our aweber lists?
is it on the LIST settings?

b} and if we include a NON spammy address, how about
Support@UrLName.com?

It's pretty clear. You do NOT want any 'From' or 'Reply To' address you use to have 7 or more consecutive consonants before the @ sign.

xyentry34astw does not count because there are not 7 or more consecutive consonants.

The other questions are all answerable within your Aweber account. Learn how it works.

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entry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Zeus66

It's pretty clear. You do NOT want any 'From' or 'Reply To' address you use to have 7 or more consecutive consonants before the @ sign.

xyentry34astw does not count because there are not 7 or more consecutive consonants.

The other questions are all answerable within your Aweber account. Learn how it works.

so Support@UrLName.com? is ok,

as Support = 7 letters. right ?

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Michael Shook 15 years ago

Originally Posted by entry

so Support@UrLName.com? is ok,

as Support = 7 letters. right ?

Don't use the word 'support" unless you are actually giving support.

The OP was about consonants in a row.

The reason their are so many spam from addresses with all those consonants in a row is because there are so many more consonants in English than ther are vowels. The auto text generators pick relatively randomly and so they wind up picking consonants more often in the long run.
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Michael Shook

15 years ago

Originally Posted by entry

So does that mean we have to make our aweber emails NOT xxxyglgidlaggd@whatever.com?

or xyentry34astw@aweber.com?

a} Where do we change this 'from' address, on our aweber lists?
is it on the LIST settings?

b} and if we include a NON spammy address, how about
Support@UrLName.com?

List settings on the first screen.

IMO if you are doing anything except sending emails about support, for instance if you are trying to sell something to your list subscribers, don't use "support" as your from address or your name in the from field.

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entry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JMichaelZ

List settings on the first screen.

IMO if you are doing anything except sending emails about support, for instance if you are trying to sell something to your list subscribers, don't use "support" as your from address or your name in the from field.

Is including 'support' seen as a spam email address, by the filters atal?

or it is just that, if you Dont offer support, but you have it in the email, then it looks odd?

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Richard Van

15 years ago

Originally Posted by entry

Is including 'support' seen as a spam email address, by the filters atal?

or it is just that, if you Dont offer support, but you have it in the email, then it looks odd?

Entry,

This is about having 7 of the following letters, which are consonants, all consecutively before the @ part of your email address.

B, C, D, F, G, H, J, K, L, M, N, P, Q, R, S, T, V, X, Z

So if you had bcdfghj@, you would need to change this.

I think you're over thinking the support issue.

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Frank Donovan

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Zeus66

One of the spam triggers is having too many consecutive consonants in your 'From' and/or 'Reply To' email addresses in the header of your outgoing emails. Seems this is a common tactic used by spammers who make up bogus email addresses. They use things like: xxxyglgidlaggd@whatever.com

This might explain why there are so few successful email marketers from Wales.

Fraaaaaank

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Zeus66

15 years ago

FOLLOW UP...

OK, sent my first email today after fixing this problem, and I can safely report that my emails were definitely being spam filtered before. The floodgates have opened today. WOO HOO!

So, to recap...

1. Slap your parents around if they gave you a name with too few vowels.

2. Be sure your email address doesn't have 7 or more consonants in a row before the @ sign or you'll trip Gmail's spam filter (at least... could be the same at other providers too).

3. Don't hate me because bald is beautiful.

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Frank Donovan

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Zeus66

So, to recap...

1. Slap your parents around if they gave you a name with too few vowels.

2. Be sure your email address doesn't have 7 or more consonants in a row before the @ sign or you'll trip Gmail's spam filter (at least... could be the same at other providers too).

3. Don't hate me because bald is beautiful.

Good advice.

And, if you must correspond with Superman villains, add Mr Mxyzptlk to your whitelist.

Frank

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entry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Zeus66

FOLLOW UP...

OK, sent my first email today after fixing this problem, and I can safely report that my emails were definitely being spam filtered before. The floodgates have opened today. WOO HOO!

So, to recap...

1. Slap your parents around if they gave you a name with too few vowels.

2. Be sure your email address doesn't have 7 or more consonants in a row before the @ sign or you'll trip Gmail's spam filter (at least... could be the same at other providers too).

3. Don't hate me because bald is beautiful.

so no 7 consonants in a row,

But the gurus emails which are getting in our spam Gmail folders, they dont have 7 consonants, so where are they going wrong?

{besides gmails filters getting tougher},?

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Zeus66

15 years ago

Originally Posted by entry

so no 7 consonants in a row,

But the gurus emails which are getting in our spam Gmail folders, they dont have 7 consonants, so where are they going wrong?

{besides gmails filters getting tougher},?

There are a ton of "rules" that are coded into the various spam detection software programs. They get "smarter" all the time, too. What words you use in your subject line and in the body of the email have a lot to do with it. For example, the other day I tripped a spam checker at my autoresponder because I mentioned in the body of the email that the product I was promoting that day has a money back guarantee. The phrase "money back guarantee" was flagged as commonly use by spammers. That's just one example of many that you can inadvertently put in an email to cause problems.

I changed money back guarantee to refund guarantee, by the way, and it was fine. Go figure.

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Eric Lorence

15 years ago

I imagine the "@gmail" part doesn't help much either, I would use a private domain addy for business - more professional IMO.

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ShayB 15 years ago

And....posting this since it looks like it might be needed for some.... :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonant#Letters
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celente

15 years ago

Hey thanks for brining this up, and timely too, as one of my ar software hosts has just reminded me of the same thing.

might have to check this.

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Derek Soto

15 years ago

you just may have increased my delivery rate by leaps and bounds, thanks!

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