Autoblogs, still recommended?

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Hi i plan to start a few Autoblogs. Because of the duplicate Content i think that Google might see a problem or so..

Do you recommend to still add an Autoblog via Google Webmaster tools and also monetize via adsense?

Thank in Advance
#autoblogs #recommended
  • Profile picture of the author WebRank1
    I have sold a few autoblogs on Flippa in the past and I still have a few.
    You should try one or two, see how it goes. I would strongly recommend a niche that has a high CPC throughout most of its related keywords because you will almost certainly attract less traffic and thus less clicks.
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    • Profile picture of the author athanne
      Good advice
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    • Profile picture of the author aaronco
      Originally Posted by WebRank1 View Post

      I have sold a few autoblogs on Flippa in the past and I still have a few.
      You should try one or two, see how it goes. I would strongly recommend a niche that has a high CPC throughout most of its related keywords because you will almost certainly attract less traffic and thus less clicks.

      How old where your autoblogs before you sold them on Flippa?
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      • Profile picture of the author Ghansson
        Originally Posted by aaronco View Post

        How old where your autoblogs before you sold them on Flippa?

        I'd like to know this as well. I have a few autoblogs which get decent traffic and I'm thinking about selling them
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  • Profile picture of the author xMarkPro
    Considering the changes Google is making to its algorithms, I'd say it's probably a waste of time and energy. Probably best have one or two blogs, and concentrating on quality.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      Some people still have them up and running. A lot of them got cracked down on during the last update. Many of the EMD's are already owned by other people.

      It is still possible to have an "autoblog" but overall the ones that seem to be doing better, are the ones that have original content and are really autoposted blogs. The ones filled by scraped content are kind of yesterday's news.

      In general IMO, you will probably have to do as much work or more to get them ranked as if you spent some time picking out good keywords and writing original content.
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      • Profile picture of the author pdrs
        Originally Posted by JMichaelZ View Post


        It is still possilbe to have an "autoblog" but overall the ones that seem to be doing better, are the ones that have original content and are really autoposted blogs. The ones filled by scraped content are kind of yesterday's news.
        I agree with this. My best sites are all setup so that they automatically drip out content over the course of a couple months but it's all original content that I just schedule.

        This means I spend a few hours setting it all up and then just leave it be for a couple of months. Also using some automatic bookmarking and RSS plugins (webtrafficgenius ftw!) helps to provide some steady backlinking to the site and seems to help things over all.

        I set 10 or so up this way and then check back in a month or two to see which ones are doing well and which ones aren't and then focus in on promoting the winners.

        Rinse, repeat.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Autoblogs still recommended?

    When were they ever recommended?
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberSorcerer
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      Autoblogs still recommended?

      When were they ever recommended?
      I actually have an quite large autoblog network built. But the WP plugin I'm using to manage the network is from a course I took called "Epic Traffic Systems"

      Keith Baxter is the one who covered autoblogging in the course and Joey Smith covered "Social Media" and John Shugart handled "Paid Advertising and Media Buys".

      The software works pretty good but the biggest thing to make it succeed is how you set everything up. You'll need a good host that can offer you class A,B, and C IP's and a few other things such has having CPanel X3 which is what the software works with. But it can be customized if you know how.

      Anyway, just my 2 cents on the subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    Don't waste your time even setting one up. You'll get little to no traffic at it because its all crap duplicate content. Be unique! Be yourself!
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberSorcerer
      Originally Posted by SeanSupplee View Post

      Don't waste your time even setting one up. You'll get little to no traffic at it because its all crap duplicate content. Be unique! Be yourself!
      Just because you can't get it to work, doesn't mean that it is crap?
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    • Profile picture of the author guzie
      Originally Posted by SeanSupplee View Post

      Don't waste your time even setting one up. You'll get little to no traffic at it because its all crap duplicate content. Be unique! Be yourself!
      You are soooo right Sean. Most folks want the easy way. But in reality there is no easy way. Just plain old fashioned hard work. Being yourself makes the process must easier.

      Just my thoughts on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author abigailmarketing
      Originally Posted by SeanSupplee View Post

      Don't waste your time even setting one up. You'll get little to no traffic at it because its all crap duplicate content. Be unique! Be yourself!
      I agree. You'll be sorry in the end if your website will be banned due to duplicate content.
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  • Profile picture of the author g36
    Autoblog + spun content, the content would be unique in the eye of search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
    Many opinions about autoblogging are often presented as fact instead of opinion, especially by the autoblog haters of the forum and many of them come from those that have failed at it.

    Are autoblogs still viable, even after the latest Google update...yes
    Is it as easy as many think it is...no

    There is a lot of valuable info here on the forum about autoblogging, there are also more than enough "opinions" about it to last a lifetime...do a search, read the many threads here about it and decide for yourself.

    Best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author klein risley
    Autoblogs are definitely something that you have to scale up to be successful with. Not all of them will make money. If you want to make big money, it is better to create your own content.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Katsoudas
    It also has a lot to do with what's the right business model for you.

    Some people make money with authority blogging and autoblogging.

    Some people don't make money with authority blogging or autoblogging.

    Same goes for affiliate marketing or product creation. Adsense and Amazon. Text and Video. You name it.

    You need to know your strengths and weaknesses - only then can you decide what is more likely to work for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    Still I earn with autoblogs. Make more quality backlinks and add some unique articles monthly. Then you get decent traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author paintbrush4u
    My take on Auto Blogs..... this is a timing based strategy...
    For the most part the auto-blog market is going to be gone soon... how ever...
    there are certain wys you can monetize them...and no i am not
    talking about adsense type income either....


    what do you plan to with the auto blogs/
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    • Profile picture of the author thebalance
      Originally Posted by paintbrush4u View Post

      My take on Auto Blogs..... this is a timing based strategy...
      For the most part the auto-blog market is going to be gone soon... how ever...
      there are certain wys you can monetize them...and no i am not
      talking about adsense type income either....


      what do you plan to with the auto blogs/
      Firstly i want to say thank you for all the answers.

      How would you monetize them? I think Adsense isn't too good for Autoblogs. What are other ways? Cpa might work.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronywilliam
    Keeping in mind the changes google is making, i wont reccomend you for autoblogs Rather you should make 2 or 3 blogs and concentrate on the quality and uniqueness of the blogs
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  • Profile picture of the author brobdingnagian
    I've had 1000 autoblogs going since December 2010 and all they bring is the weak sauce.....
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  • Profile picture of the author fated82
    I build autoblogs but I monetize it differently....I sell therm on flippa and I can fletch $70 - $100 a site for a 2 hours worth of work....

    Having said that, I don't recommend running auto blog network especially if you are considering implementing adsense or affiliate marketing.... You simply have alot of difficulty generating enough traffic to make your time worth while....
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    Seems like an easy enough concept, you setup a hosting account, something the search engines like to index and do some keyword research then setup an auto blogging product, and for a time it did work ok, however over the past three years I have been developing autoblogs, I spent a lot of money buying auto blogging products.

    I cannot name them all, but I think I invested somewhere in the neighborhood of about 350.00 in software products and all of them claimed that I could get great traffic and make money with them, ...

    One of the products, (that is still popular here) got two of my websites banned in google and it took two years to reverse the damage that was done to that domain name, cost of the wordpress auto blogging plugin $145.00

    (thanks for that)

    It was then that I really seriously began to ask questions about what was going on with Google, this was two years ago...

    Long before all the changes that have happened since.

    I now own a lot of mostly useless software with the exception of
    one of these auto blogging products, they all failed to live up to the hype
    presented right here on this forum.

    Several are still being sold today, and warriors are recommending how great it is, but if you use it, you will most likely pay a high price and you will not make any money, in fact you will loose the price you paid for this product not to mention all the time and effort you spent in developing the website and the "just south of trash the plugin produces"

    The offending auto blogging plugin I found to be the worse one was also the highest priced when I purchased it the price was 145.00 (warrior special price) now it is $120 for the advanced version.

    After repeated attempts at getting the thing to actually work right, I asked for help on the support forum and got excuses, after excuses yes I paid for that software, the reason I am telling you this story is two fold, that you not make the same mistakes that I made and that you learn what I learned in two years of making said same mistakes.

    So I am not going to name the offending software vendor here as it is not permitted and off topic as well, but I want to communicate my experiences with auto blogging, and what I learned about the process of auto blogging as well as the solution at least to a degree to the problems I encountered.

    Auto blogging by itself is a waste of your time and effort and your money.


    The one way I found to become somewhat profitable was to not rely on the auto blogging process, because auto blogging leaves a trail of destruction every where it is used, the search engines see it and you may for a short time see some results but over all you are going to pay a huge price
    once the search engines figure out what you are doing, which trust me
    is only a matter of time.

    I had meant to keep this short, but when you spend as much time and money as I have spent on developing auto blogs then you have to understand why I feel so strongly about this topic.

    To keep this brief as possible, I found that auto blogging alone was a horrible business model that fails every time it is used period. Yes you may have some average success for a time, but in the end the result will not be what you wanted, I do not care how many people say different, this is the truth, I am not selling anything here so anyone that comes along telling about how much great gobs of money they are making is a pure unadulterated liar.

    Period...


    They have a dog in the hunt or they are friends with a dog in the hunt just ignore them they are a waste of your time and efforts.

    Now there is a way to manage your content in such a way as to avoid the penalty of being perceived as a content scraper or content farm, or other low value low quality content snare, as the now famous "panda smanda" google garbage distribution system will tell you

    You have to have unique content, not borrowed not duplicated not even remotely ambiguous, You simply must have a solid good mix of content, you can have advertising, yes you can have videos from youtube, you can have content from other sources as long as it is a good mix of original high value keyword relevant content fall below unpublished levels of original high value content and you will pay a price.

    I have had some success and yes even made some money, using this method, and it involves some work on your part, sorry but that is just the way it is, you cannot wave a magic wand, you cannot buy magic beans, there is no glass slipper and sadly no free lunch...

    Those things are just purely for suckers, (dont be a sucker) because if you are here then you have made it past the gauntlet of so called guru trash mongers, who prey on the weak among us instead of providing real solutions to real problems.

    So, that is it in a nut shell, create real original content, by either producing your own content, and or re-writing PLR content, and mixing it up on your blog or website, with advertising, and yes you can use plugins to do that too, but with all seriousness beware of the Auto blogging demons, they are real and it will wreck your domain and your time and your money and suck the life out of your will to survive in this very challenging environment.

    Even though I have made some money doing this it does take effort and sadly there are some that just do not want to do anything, they will never be successful until they find that out for themselves, if you are reading this and you are truly interested in moving beyond the vicious cycle of buying products that fail you (yes I know its a novel concept, but products fail you, not the other way around) and if you have hope that you can somehow find the key to the kingdom then you are probably ready to begin creating high value content for real readers that also hope to find content that is of value to them.

    I could literally write a book on this topic and may do it someday but for now I just wanted to share the last three years of auto blogging efforts that I have personally done, using 17 auto blogging software products, and 45 domain names and yes I turned all that time and effort into a product which I will not mention here since that would be a self serving post and that is not what I wanted to do, If you are interested just read my blog and you will find links easy enough to follow.

    Trust me, there is no magic bean... There is no real auto blogging software that works the way they claim that it works, it is all fake and it is a waste of your time, and it is just to get you to buy yet another product that will in the end fail you, and it is not just because google suddenly changed the way they decided to do business, it is simply that people recognize a website with real content from a website with generated content, it is really just that simple.

    Learn from the mistakes that others make it can save you a lot of time and effort and yes money...
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    • Profile picture of the author franamico
      I own a few autoblogs.
      Altogether, they made me a few sales but, even after a year, they still get little traffic.
      If you are planning to experiment with autoblogs, I would recommend plugins that allow you to easily enter a master synonym list that you have personally created.
      Also, get a plugin called Auto Traffic Nirvana. It automatically creates backlinks, linking to high PR sites and automatically syndacates to RSS aggregators.

      I use an utoblogging platform called power autoblog. Excellent software and customer support.

      Good Luck!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      over the past three years I have been developing autoblogs, I spent a lot of money buying auto blogging products.
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post


      I cannot name them all, but I think I invested somewhere in the neighborhood of about 350.00 in software products and all of them claimed that I could get great traffic and make money with them, ...


      All in all...$350 is NOT a lot of money to spend on IM related products. I'm sorry but that can easily be done purchasing a few products like Senuke, AMR, MNF and Mkt Sam...etc.

      Also, I would imagine that not all of the money you spent was solely on and only used for autoblogs. It's possible but I doubt you ONLY used those products for autoblogging. Take MKT Sam for example, can you use it for autoblogging...sure, but is that the only thing it's good for...certainly not and if you purchased products like these for autoblogging then I highly doubt you ONLY used them for that purpose.

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      I now own a lot of mostly useless software with the exception of
      one of these auto blogging products, they all failed to live up to the hype
      presented right here on this forum.

      Several are still being sold today, and warriors are recommending how great it is, but if you use it, you will most likely pay a high price and you will not make any money, in fact you will loose the price you paid for this product not to mention all the time and effort you spent in developing the website and the "just south of trash the plugin produces"

      The offending auto blogging plugin I found to be the worse one was also the highest priced when I purchased it the price was 145.00 (warrior special price) now it is $120 for the advanced version.


      I'm pretty sure the plugin your referring to is one of (if not THE) most popular autoblogging plugins/programs on the market today and unfortunately I agree 100%...it's reputation for posting unrelated content and content that's poor quality doesn't seem to outweigh it's appeal. I can only attribute that to people not doing their "homework" before purchasing it.
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      Auto blogging by itself is a waste of your time and effort and your money.


      The one way I found to become somewhat profitable was to not rely on the auto blogging process, because auto blogging leaves a trail of destruction every where it is used, the search engines see it and you may for a short time see some results but over all you are going to pay a huge price
      once the search engines figure out what you are doing, which trust me
      is only a matter of time.


      I don’t think those of us that have had success with it would agree with you...and there are several of us here as well as many other forums.

      It does appear as though you did try and obviously had no luck with autoblogging but if it were actually a waste of time, effort and money (as you claim it is) then how do you explain the fact that there are several others who have had success with autoblogging who aren’t selling their own related products? I guess all those people just got lucky…is that it?

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post


      To keep this brief as possible, I found that auto blogging alone was a horrible business model that fails every time it is used period.


      This is another example of someone posting their own experience as though it were THE only possible outcome for everyone else. It's a shame you didn't have better luck with it but it's not fair to say that any method (autoblogging or otherwise) will "fail every time it is used period" simply because you failed with it. If it really did "fail every time its used" then no one would do it...food for thought.

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      I am not selling anything here so anyone that comes along telling about how much great gobs of money they are making is a pure unadulterated liar.
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post


      Period...


      They have a dog in the hunt or they are friends with a dog in the hunt just ignore them they are a waste of your time and efforts.


      You say you’re not selling anything yet you later go on to say if someone is interested in your product then they can go to your blog and find the links...

      Sounds to me like you DO have a "dog in the hunt"; just your dog is your product, your way to either autoblog or your way to advertise a product that will supposedly help those that have failed with Autoblogging…either way it’s funny your using Autoblogging to promote your product.

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      You simply must have a solid good mix of content, you can have advertising, yes you can have videos from youtube, you can have content from other sources as long as it is a good mix of original high value keyword relevant content


      This is exactly what many autobloggers are doing today, those that I know that are successful with it anyway...


      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post


      I could literally write a book on this topic and may do it someday but for now I just wanted to share the last three years of auto blogging efforts that I have personally done, using 17 auto blogging software products, and 45 domain names and yes I turned all that time and effort into a product which I will not mention here since that would be a self serving post and that is not what I wanted to do, If you are interested just read my blog and you will find links easy enough to follow.


      A couple of things strike me funny here...

      1. You say you spent 3 years trying to make autoblogging work and purchased 17 related products and tried them on 45 domain names...

      Did you ever stop to think that you either tried too many approaches over too short a period of time - 17 products over 3 years means you tried a new product about every other month which in most cases wouldn’t be long enough to truly see if a product is going to work or not...least most decent AB products anyway.

      2. 45 domains? Honestly that’s not that many, yes it's more than 3 or 4 but in the world of autoblogging it’s a drop in the bucket. Now mix that with using 17 different products spread across those 45 domains and I think you can see how that could spell disaster.

      3. Finally...you mention your own product that you created from what sounds like your failures with autoblogging but can also be interpreted as your version of it. You spend the majority of your post talking trash about autoblogging yet say that you created your own product, either because of autoblogging or to help you with it...little confusing there but it's still funny you manage to slip that little tid bit in while condemning others (those you say only make money selling AB related products).

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      Trust me, there is no magic bean...


      This is about the only thing I can say I agree with you on.

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      There is no real auto blogging software that works the way they claim that it works, it is all fake and it is a waste of your time


      Now is this statement really true or was that just your experience with the products you tried?

      What I mean is are you absolutely sure that the products themselves don't work as advertised or is it the dream you bought into (by buying the products) that didn’t work?

      I don't mean to come off as a jerk but if the products themselves deliver what they say they will and you simply couldn't figure out how to implement the capabilities of the products to make as much money as the inventor (or others who have used them) then is it really fair to say the product didn’t deliver and that they are fake and a waste of time?

      I would agree that some AB related products are seriously hyped beyond belief...which should be a good indicator to stay away from them and not to buy (literally in some cases) into the hype.


      In the end you can't blame a product or IM method (in this case autoblogging) for your failures, especially if there are others (and in this case many others) who have made it work for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Autoblogs were once recommended by others?

    Don't listen to those people ever again... :p
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  • Profile picture of the author karlandrew
    probably not the best time to do that.. after the panda update,they're right on saying you'd just waste your time..

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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Sharp
    Autoblogs? Not bad! I still use this autoblogging and it's quite effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nickolie0990
    nope, not unless you plan on selling them to somebody else. Just is worth the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
    It's interesting to me that there are so many people here who post against autoblogging as if they know for sure it's no longer a valid form of IM (or worse yet, that it never was). I realize that the autoblogging of the past rapidly gained a bad name and in some cases rightfully so but what many don’t seem to realize is that those of us who do it successfully today don’t follow the same methods that many associate with the name.

    Also, many of the posters here keep citing the latest Google update as though that were the end all be all, final death to the dreaded autoblog...

    If you were to actually talk to some successful autobloggers here on the forum you would learn that the algo update actually helped many autoblogs with higher rankings in the SERPs which has resulted in more traffic...leading to increased earnings.

    So...I'm sorry to burst the autoblog hater bubble but the reality is that autoblogging (done right) isn't going anywhere any time soon. However, if it somehow makes you feel better to continue to doubt then please continue to do so, less competition is always better for those of us who know the possibilities.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Rsberg View Post

      It's interesting to me that there are so many people here who post against autoblogging as if they know for sure it's no longer a valid form of IM (or worse yet, that it never was). I realize that the autoblogging of the past rapidly gained a bad name and in some cases rightfully so but what many don’t seem to realize is that those of us who do it successfully today don’t follow the same methods that many associate with the name.

      Also, many of the posters here keep citing the latest Google update as though that were the end all be all, final death to the dreaded autoblog...

      If you were to actually talk to some successful autobloggers here on the forum you would learn that the algo update actually helped many autoblogs with higher rankings in the SERPs which has resulted in more traffic...leading to increased earnings.

      So...I'm sorry to burst the autoblog hater bubble but the reality is that autoblogging (done right) isn't going anywhere any time soon. However, if it somehow makes you feel better to continue to doubt then please continue to do so, less competition is always better for those of us who know the possibilities.

      I can hate autoblogs all day long, but I have to acknowledge that I know people who have seen an uptick in traffic since Panda.

      Not everyone mind you, but a lot of autoblogs won with Panda.

      So the questions are, what won and what lost, and more importantly, why did some win and some lose?

      I have heard a lot of theories, but theories are only that until which time a suggestion can be applied across the entire spectrum. Until we see a theory that can be verified globally, we still don't know anything more than we did before doing the exercise.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        I can hate autoblogs all day long, but I have to acknowledge that I know people who have seen an uptick in traffic since Panda.

        Not everyone mind you, but a lot of autoblogs won with Panda.

        So the questions are, what won and what lost, and more importantly, why did some win and some lose?

        I have heard a lot of theories, but theories are only that until which time a suggestion can be applied across the entire spectrum. Until we see a theory that can be verified globally, we still don't know anything more than we did before doing the exercise.
        This is very true and if my post somehow came across as though EVERY autoblog had seen an increase in traffic, SERPS..etc then I apologize, that was not my intent.

        I wont call your a hater TPW, you havent been as active in your anti-autoblogging posting that many have been here and your posts (for the most part) have been more along the lines of duscussion rather than out right claiming one thing or another. I respect that and am glad you can at least acknowledge that there are differences in the autoblogging world.

        As far as what won, what lost and as you correctly state more importantly why...a few of us autobloggers have been talking about that and I am sure several are studying it. The only thing that seems to be somewhat (notice I said somewhat) concrete is that the autoblogs that add value are winning (big duhhhh moment there). I think the question in that is how is the value being added, some do it differently but in the end there is certainly a difference from what many think of as auotblogging.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Rsberg View Post

          As far as what won, what lost and as you correctly state more importantly why...a few of us autobloggers have been talking about that and I am sure several are studying it. The only thing that seems to be somewhat (notice I said somewhat) concrete is that the autoblogs that add value are winning (big duhhhh moment there). I think the question in that is how is the value being added, some do it differently but in the end there is certainly a difference from what many think of as auotblogging.

          There is another angle to this which also annoys people.

          Yes, EZA took a 90% hit in Google rankings, but not all of the survivors in Google's SERPs were "high quality" articles...

          I know people who write crap articles, and they still rank on page one Google with their articles on EZA.

          There is something in Google's algorithm that says, "these pages win, and these pages lose."

          But more interesting to me is that "content quality" does not seem to be the measuring stick. "Content quality" appears to have been the intent of Panda, but not the algorithmic solution.

          I have a theory, but I need to test it, before I talk about it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            There is something in Google's algorithm that says, "these pages win, and these pages lose."

            But more interesting to me is that "content quality" does not seem to be the measuring stick. "Content quality" appears to have been the intent of Panda, but not the algorithmic solution.
            Yeah...that seems to be the BIG question. What is it that makes one thing OK and another not. I'm not sure that it would be possible for Google (or anyone else for that matter) to create programming that could objectively detect "quality" and accurately determine what is or is not adding value with quality content.

            It would be interesting to know what Google uses to make these determinations...then again, who wouldnt want to know that...lol

            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            I have a theory, but I need to test it, before I talk about it.
            I would love to hear about it sometime when your ready to let the cat out of the bag...
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    • Profile picture of the author blogginvixen
      Originally Posted by Rsberg View Post


      If you were to actually talk to some successful autobloggers here on the forum you would learn that the algo update actually helped many autoblogs with higher rankings in the SERPs which has resulted in more traffic...leading to increased earnings.
      My sentiments exactly! While I no longer own any autoblogs (since sold them off almost 2 years ago), I can say that they certainly are NOT dead. In fact, I've seen them dominate SERPS since this last Panda update by pushing more authoritative domains out of the way.

      Does that mean I'm going to go out and build an army of them?!? Absolutely not, but instead of asking the question here if they work, OP, why don't you build one and test things for yourself? I mean if 50 people said 'No' they don't work, does that mean you're going to move on to something else without at least testing things for yourself?

      ...if it fails, at least you took it upon yourself to reach your own conclusion.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by blogginvixen View Post

        My sentiments exactly! While I no longer own any autoblogs (since sold them off almost 2 years ago), I can say that they certainly are NOT dead. In fact, I've seen them dominate SERPS since this last Panda update by pushing more authoritative domains out of the way.

        Does that mean I'm going to go out and build an army of them?!? Absolutely not, but instead of asking the question here if they work, OP, why don't you build one and test things for yourself? I mean if 50 people said 'No' they don't work, does that mean you're going to move on to something else without at least testing things for yourself?

        ...if it fails, at least you took it upon yourself to reach your own conclusion.
        Too many people here seem to want to take the easy way out - instead of testing things and coming to a conclusion for themselves, they choose to rely on second hand experience and opinions - no wonder we see so many people complaining about internet marketing and how everything is 'dead'!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    @Rsberg I sure hope your not offended, looks like someone struck a nerve, but I am more than willing to show my cards, I would really love to see your successfully implemented auto blogs,

    here is one of my auto blogs

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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      @Rsberg I sure hope your not offended, looks like someone struck a nerve, but I am more than willing to show my cards, I would really love to see your successfully implemented auto blogs,
      Tim,

      I'm not offended...just tired of all the anti autoblog talk this forum seems to produce, especially when I know it is quite viable. No offense intended but have you ever noticed that the majority of people who talk trash about it are the ones who failed at it? I can understand the writers talking trash if they had had some content stolen or published without permission but someone who fails at it just doesnt make sense to me...sorry.

      As far as sharing info is concerned I'm afraid I wont do that. You can say what you will about that but I had a bad experience not long ago doing that and have decided not to do it any more. I went out of my way to help someone here on the forum (after they approached me) and it ended with me getting screwed...sorry but I wont go there again. Besides, stats, visits, page impressions...etc etc are (IMO) not any different than income claims...too easy to be faked and I dont put a lot of stock in that sort of info unless its from someone I know and trust.

      Your welcome to your opinions but the thing that bothers me is that they are just that...opinions, and in many cases the people that post them (like your post) often try to pass them off as the gospel when the opposite can easily be said as well.

      There are far too many successful autobloggers right here on this forum to say that autoblogging as a whole is worthless, a waist of time, not a viable method of IM..etc etc
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    Ok I get it, your unhappy sure If I were autoblogging alone I would be unhappy too, but I contend that you do not have to be alone, and in fact my successes were with a combination of technogies, you want to argue about what you think are opinions ok sure but that is really off topic here, the topic at hand is this Autoblogs, still recommended?

    The best thing in this forum is to add some value to a thread it does no one any good to sit here and argue, so lets move along past the stumbling blocks that so easily seem to find their way into conversations here and lets do something positive.

    What I have posted I can back up 100 percent, while your position conveniently requires no proof, of anything you have posted. I am not sure how to take that but in the tradition of the warrior forum, which by the way I have been here on and off since 1999.

    I will add value to this thread by doing more than just posting opinions that require no proof, you see the issue here and the topic here is this Autoblogs, still recommended and I have to say that I can prove better than most people here that Autoblogging alone is a failure.

    Let break out some educational tools here and do some good, being unhappy really never does anyone any real good.

    Failure refers to the state or condition of not meeting a desirable or intended objective, and may be viewed as the opposite of success
    I set out to make some money using auto blogging, I have some money so its not a big deal to me I like to support the warrior forum, by buying WSOs I have purchased tons of stuff over the years, and most of them are great products.

    DLguard, RAP, even back in the day, the MJFP, do you know what the MJFP is?

    My position is this, and I can back it up because I documented my experiences as part of a development cycle, I did that for one reason and one reason alone, I wanted to be able to say this is what I did this is what my results are, and for the record I am still documenting this experiment.

    If I can save some fellow warriors time and money then I am going to do that.

    I think it is good to share your experiences it is what makes us a better people.
    It is really all about helping each other out, if I can provide value to others who come after me then perhaps some of those clients will become more successful because they will have taken the time to learn from my experiences.

    So, here is what I did I setup several blogs, some of them I leave alone and do nothing, others I update from time to time, in the world of science and that is what we want to do here is to provide proof of what constitutes reasonable effort, we call this a control experiment, the control are the websites where autoblogging is used with no outside intervention.

    Then I have some sites where I use a somewhat different plugin which I like better than some of the other more automatic (content scrapers, video posters, ect)

    Then there is a third group where I only post original material, and the website is developed to fit into a niche, I followed a set procedure of developing these sites because I wanted to be able to help warriors do the same thing, and yes sadly it requires some work to do but in every single instance the websites where I use original material and I follow an applied approach of steps, those websites are far more successful than the auto blogging websites, which is what this topic is all about, So I say it again, Autoblogging Alone is just not a good way to do business.

    It takes more than just an automatic posting content scraping plugins to produce real world success, the very idea that you can "make money while you sleep with this great autoblogging plugin" is just sad, because it is deceptive, in its statement.
    You cannot do nothing and expect to receive everything, but that is what a lot of people are trying to sell that same old yes "tired excuse" is just not going to cut the mustard any longer.

    By the way I also have some websites where I use a combination of technologies and my results are mush better, than just autoblogging alone.

    Hence the title of my original post in the first place.

    So to answer the question of the OP, which is why we are here today, the answer is No, I can prove it, by reason of what any reasonable person could expect when putting forth a reasonable effort as defined by the FTC guides.
    You see, soon you will not be able to just post something you will have to back it up, I am happy that it is still a free world at least for now but eventually anything you say in a public forum might one day be used against you, just consider that for a moment, the prevailing corporate opinion here is that legally the IM world is the wild wild west of the Internet with hucksters and shucksters, on every street corner barking, to the world, Hurry Hurry Hurry, come and see the beaded lady and the man of great girth.

    Those days are about to end and I am preparing for that by documenting everything I do, you should be doing that too, because soon if you do not have proof of what you say, you could face criminal charges, yes even jail time.

    So while right now you can conveniently make open ended statements, eventually you will have to make good on your claims.

    over the next few weeks I will be releasing a new product that can work with autoblogging to enhance and build up a better website using technology but the over all goal is to move away from autoblogging, and to produce results that can be repeated with a reasonable effort, if you want to use autoblogging go for it, but if you want real results why not create real value for what you sell to warriors.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      Ok I get it, your unhappy sure If I were autoblogging alone I would be unhappy too, but I contend that you do not have to be alone, and in fact my successes were with a combination of technogies, you want to argue about what you think are opinions ok sure but that is really off topic here, the topic at hand is this Autoblogs, still recommended?


      I never said I was Autoblogging alone, most experienced marketers know that diversification is key to success…never put all your eggs into one basket

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post


      What I have posted I can back up 100 percent, while your position conveniently requires no proof, of anything you have posted. I am not sure how to take that but in the tradition of the warrior forum, which by the way I have been here on and off since 1999.
      As I said, I don’t care what your thoughts are as far as my not posting so called “proof”…those cards are often over played here and in the end aren’t proof of anything.

      Congratulations on being here for a long time…I guess that makes your thoughts and opinions more valuable than mine or anyone else whom you seem to outrank by being here longer. You seem to put a lot of value on that...given that we could also approach it another way...

      Youve been here since 2006 (over 5 years) and have been "thanked" 148 times in 91 posts out of 1700+ postings. Many think that is an indicator of how helpful someone is or how helpful the info they post is...its a guage so to speek.

      I have only been on this forum for about a year and have been thanked 244 times in 151 posts out of 855 total postings. Now I personally dont put a lot of stock in these numbes but since you seem to want to play that game one could easily say that my contributions here have been more helpful (as a whole) than yours...so does the fact that youve been here longer really mean anything...I doubt it.

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      I will add value to this thread by doing more than just posting opinions that require no proof, you see the issue here and the topic here is this Autoblogs, still recommended and I have to say that I can prove better than most people here that Autoblogging alone is a failure.


      Interesting that you now say that autoblgging alone is a failure when your original post said nothing of combining it with other method. Your original post simply said Autoblogging would lead to failure and now your adding to your statement to try to somehow make it more acceptable.

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      Let break out some educational tools here and do some good, being unhappy really never does anyone any real good.


      You like being a bit of a smartass don’t you…



      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      It is really all about helping each other out, if I can provide value to others who come after me then perhaps some of those clients will become more successful because they will have taken the time to learn from my experiences.
      And that’s great…you are right, this forum should be about helping others. Where I take issue with your “help” is that you try to make your experiences as though that is the only possible outcome by using Autoblogging. Many of the haters here in the forum do the same thing yet ignore several people here who have had success with Autoblogging. There are more than one successful WSOs related to Autoblogging and I’m not just talking about selling plugins either. There are a few mentoring/coaching programs here that teach improved methods to Autoblogging and many of the students have already seen success…so when I see something like that and I know other autobloggers who have success with it and then I see posts like yours where its outright claimed to be worthless, waste of time, etc etc it sort of rubs me the wrong way.


      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      By the way I also have some websites where I use a combination of technologies and my results are mush better, than just autoblogging alone.


      I guess you missed the part where I said that what you described was in fact what many successful autobloggers (myself included) are doing today as far as how they approach Autoblogging…

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post



      You see, soon you will not be able to just post something you will have to back it up, I am happy that it is still a free world at least for now but eventually anything you say in a public forum might one day be used against you, just consider that for a moment, the prevailing corporate opinion here is that legally the IM world is the wild wild west of the Internet with hucksters and shucksters, on every street corner barking, to the world, Hurry Hurry Hurry, come and see the beaded lady and the man of great girth.

      Those days are about to end and I am preparing for that by documenting everything I do, you should be doing that too, because soon if you do not have proof of what you say, you could face criminal charges, yes even jail time.
      You say these things as though you know I (or anyone else for that matter) aren’t capable of “backing up” what we say. What you seem to miss is that I don’t feel as though I have to with YOU. You are not some authority figure that I (or anyone else) has to appease.

      I do document many of the things I do, especially the things I have done over the last few years to learn to change my approach concerning Autoblogging. As I said though…I don’t have to prove anything to you.

      Also, one MAJOR difference between you and I (at least for now) is that I am not trying to sell anyone anything…you are and you tried doing it by dogging auotblogging so you could sell your solution to the autoblogging problem. You did it subtly but you still did it.

      As a matter of fact I feel a sales pitch coming on any minute…

      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      over the next few weeks I will be releasing a new product that can work with autoblogging to enhance and build up a better website using technology but the over all goal is to move away from autoblogging, and to produce results that can be repeated with a reasonable effort, if you want to use autoblogging go for it, but if you want real results why not create real value for what you sell to warriors.
      And as I predicted…there it was.

      That’s one of the oldest tricks in the book and a staple to any marketing and I applaud you for the effort. Find a controversial topic that’s related to your product, make a few posts you are sure will garner some attention and then subtly slip in that you have a product that will solve all the Autoblogging worlds woes…congratulations…well done.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I think they are the newest shiney object and will get either banned or just die out.

    Not sure thought, my crystal ball is not working well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      I think they are the newest shiney object and will get either banned or just die out.



      I wouldn’t call them the “new shiney object”, autoblogging has been around quite a while. I will say though that the changes in how autoblogging is done today as compared to before are somewhat new...but I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing either.

      I'm impressed celente...

      That’s a very reserved post compared to the many "discussions" you and I have had over several autoblogging threads.
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  • Profile picture of the author royljestr
    LOL...it's funny that some people say don't waste your time, and I guess I agree because there will be less competition for those of us that are making money with adsense on autoblogs!

    If you really think about it Google is nothing more than an autoblog scraping content off the web, organizing it and presenting it as it's own!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    @Rsberg obviously all you want to do is argue, and for the record you are the only person here who first mentioned hate as if it were part of this discussion which sir it is not.

    Post number 11, 31, 36, 39, you use the word hate or a version thereof, while no one else uses the word hate in the way you used it, except TPW which did not use the word in a foul way but only expressed his right to do as he pleased so I take no umbrage from his use of the word but you sir are a different matter entirely.

    Are you so unhappy that you just cannot have a rational discussion?
    I will not sit here and argue and split hairs, about semantics,
    (look that up if you need to) but what I am going to do is this

    I challenge you sir to a duel of websites and thus give you the opportunity to prove what you say about auto-blogging is correct.
    I will also have the opportunity to show what I can do with everything but Autoblogging.

    We will pick some keywords and pick some new domain names, lets say two each and they will be built from scratch, Brand new domain names, Brand new keywords pulled down from the antithesis of the Ethernet.

    You will have two websites and I will have two websites and we will both have three months to generate as much traffic and as much revenue as we can generate.

    You use Autoblogging to generate your revenue I will use everything but autoblogging and at the end of three months whom ever has the highest verifiable traffic statistics, whom ever has the most sales revenue and revenue from sales of products of the two websites will be declared the winner.

    Then people can judge for themselves who is more correct in what they believe to be true.

    So what say you? Are you all talk and no action? are you a man? or are you a mouse?
    Will you accept the gauntlet or even more likely will you retire from the field of battle tail between legs.

    In the tradition of the days of old when two gentlemen had a disagreement (and I use that word loosely today,) and the disagreement could not be settled by words alone they took to other means of settling the dispute, while today this is technically illegal, however, we can do as the old saying goes, and still break no laws in the offing.

    It is time to put up or shut up, )

    I Declare the time for the ranting and the raving and the hating to be over and the time for empty words is finished, now it is time for action.

    What say you, do you have the guts to put up or will you just shut up. . .
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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      @Rsberg obviously all you want to do is argue, and for the record you are the only person here who first mentioned hate as if it were part of this discussion which sir it is not.

      Post number 11, 31, 36, 39, you use the word hate or a version thereof, while no one else uses the word hate in the way you used it, except TPW which did not use the word in a foul way but only expressed his right to do as he pleased so I take no umbrage from his use of the word but you sir are a different matter entirely.

      I will not sit here and argue and split hairs, about semantics,
      (look that up if you need to) but what I am going to do is this

      I will also have the opportunity to show what I can do with everything but Autoblogging.

      We will pick some keywords and pick some new domain names, lets say two each and they will be built from scratch, Brand new domain names, Brand new keywords pulled down from the antithesis of the Ethernet.

      You will have two websites and I will have two websites and we will both have three months to generate as much traffic and as much revenue as we can generate.

      You use Autoblogging to generate your revenue I will use everything but autoblogging and at the end of three months whom ever has the highest verifiable traffic statistics, whom ever has the most sales revenue and revenue from sales of products of the two websites will be declared the winner.

      Then people can judge for themselves who is more correct in what they believe to be true.

      Will you accept the gauntlet or even more likely will you retire from the field of battle tail between legs.

      In the tradition of the days of old when two gentlemen had a disagreement (and I use that word loosely today,) and the disagreement could not be settled by words alone they took to other means of settling the dispute, while today this is technically illegal, however, we can do as the old saying goes, and still break no laws in the offing.

      It is time to put up or shut up, )

      I Declare the time for the ranting and the raving and the hating to be over and the time for empty words is finished, now it is time for action.

      What say you, do you have the guts to put up or will you just shut up. . .
      Dude...you really are a bit of an ass arent you...

      First you post quotes that arent even part of this discussion/thread

      Secondly you put up what you refer to as a "gauntlent" but the problem with that proposition is that you are comparing apples and oranges.

      Thirdly you just have a crappy attitude in general and come off as you are better than others...sorry sir but you are not!

      I never said you or anyone else couldnt make money with other forms of IM. In fact I said that diversification is key in the IM world...so your challenge is a bit funny to me.

      Once again, I have nothing...I repeat NOTHING...to prove to someone like you!

      Im glad you make money in other areas of IM, I honestly am...I simply pointed out that money can be made with autoblogs too. Also, one other problem with your challenge that most wouldnt see...the amount of work put into the different types of sites. We all know that money can be made with sites liek your talking about but what is rarely talked about is the work required to make them and the money they make...

      Like I said...apples and oranges.

      If you have something of value to add to the thread then great but if all you want to do is continue to argue and change the subject everytime you are stimied then I suggest you move on to another thread and attempt to quietly promote your upcoming product there....

      Best of luck with all you do!
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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      What is it exactly that Tim Franklin and Rsberg are arguing about?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    He wants to argue about words I want to take action, his words are empty while mine are full of promise, he uses foul language in his rants, while I attempt to prove what I have said, obviously he is not going to take up the challenge because he cannot, he wants to argue, he wants to call people names, but when it comes down to taking action he makes excuses,

    He keeps baking up and backing up, but here is his chance to prove to everyone here that I am as wrong as he says that I am, come on sir where is your bait?

    You call me an Ass, does that not give me the right to call you out?

    put up or shut up sir it is really just that simple, if you cannot build a website I will help you, if you cannot create an auto blog I will help you, I will put what I have said to the test, I have licenses for every major product concerning autoblogging if you do not have a license I will provide you with one.

    come on where are the apples and oranges in that?

    What I believe is that you are all talk and no action which is why you are not doing anything but name calling and ranting, about injustices, come on man stand up and be counted among the men.
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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      Well it's a beautiful day and I'm about to "take action" by going outside to relax a bit. Maybe you two should do the same.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      He wants to argue about words I want to take action, his words are empty while mine are full of promise, he uses foul language in his rants, while I attempt to prove what I have said, obviously he is not going to take up the challenge because he cannot, he wants to argue, he wants to call people names, but when it comes down to taking action he makes excuses,
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      He keeps baking up and backing up, but here is his chance to prove to everyone here that I am as wrong as he says that I am, come on sir where is your bait?

      You call me an Ass, does that not give me the right to call you out?

      put up or shut up sir it is really just that simple, if you cannot build a website I will help you, if you cannot create an auto blog I will help you, I will put what I have said to the test, I have licenses for every major product concerning autoblogging if you do not have a license I will provide you with one.

      come on where are the apples and oranges in that?

      What I believe is that you are all talk and no action which is why you are not doing anything but name calling and ranting, about injustices, come on man stand up and be counted among the men.

      Tim,

      No one is backing out of anything, your challenge isn’t fair and you know it. You want to try to compare apples to oranges by building an autoblog and comparing it to a regular blog. There are so many things wrong with that comparison that it boggles me that you’d even begin to think it was an equal comparison. Maybe the simple fact that you do think it is equal is a good indication as to why you failed with autoblogging in the first place...you obviously lack the ability to discern the differences between the two.

      Also and most importantly I never said you (or anyone else) couldn’t make a site from scratch and make money. I simply said that money could be made with autoblogging as well...that’s where you can’t seem to grasp the conversation.

      You harped on me to stay on point with regards to what this thread is about yet you now want to take it in a different direction with some weak comparison of two entirely different approaches to IM as though they were entirely equal...when it’s obvious they aren’t.

      You somehow feel as though you are better than me by issuing this challenge and my not playing your silly game somehow also makes you better than me (or any other autoblogger for that matter)...this and the way you are so damn smug and pompous is why I call you an ass...sorry but I call it like I see it and you are one!

      You are the kind of guy that likes to talk trash and then when your confronted you quickly change the subject when you realize you can’t hang with the original line of discussion. Now you are attempting to make me out the bad guy when I won’t accept your silly challenge and then try to turn this around as though it is me who is afraid of something. Seriously dude...you need to find another hobby. You have the nerve to ask me if I need your help building a website, are you serious...it's that kind of thing and the way you are talking to me why I call you an ass...and you only continue to back that assessment up with your continued smart aleck attitude.

      Honestly Tim...you aren't worth my time or anyone elses here for that matter. I'm sure you will somehow try to turn that around and make some smart ass comment about it in some way but I don’t feel like wasting any more time on you today...as mojo said, its a beautiful day today and I'm going to enjoy it without you.

      You speak of adding value to this thread yet you haven’t done so for several posts now and in fact I probably haven’t either except to point out exactly what kind of person you are which may do others some good in the future if they read this.

      You think you "called me out" simply by issuing your challenge but in fact all you did was prove my point more about your attitude with the way you did it.

      This is the last time I reply to you or your silly accusations...as I said earlier...I have nothing to prove to you, you mean absolutely NOTHING to me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    I called your bluff, you came into the thread using words like hate, and haters, you criticized everything with no proof of why you feel the way you do, what did you expect would happen?

    I called your bluff because you were rude and you talk about things you know nothing about, so I called you out, now your self righteous, go figure, have a nice day buddy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
    The ones that are still doing good use custom templates, software, and paid unique content - in other words they invested a whole lot more than a few hundred - or few thousand for that matter. Their sites have unique software, structural, and navigational footprints ...

    By "auto" meaning ... and usually misunderstood - a system where posting is handled usually thru one central location, and with software, to efficiently add content (premium - unique, and usually "paid") on a regular basis. As opposed to physically logging into each blog admin every day.

    Not - an entire site scraped from twitter or StackOverflow ..
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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

      a system where posting is handled usually thru one central location, and with software, to efficiently add content (premium - unique, and usually "paid") on a regular basis. As opposed to physically logging into each blog admin every day.

      Not - an entire site scraped from twitter or StackOverflow ..
      This is actually very similar to the software I use except it also pulls content from other sources such as article directories, YouTube, Yahoo Answers, Amazon...etc etc. I mix in my own unique content with the content pulled from other sources and present it in a way thats unique and fresh. Even though my sites have unique content on them they also have "scraped" content as well (the majority of the content on them is scraped) and are largly automated...which is why I still consider them autoblogs.

      And no...my system isn't for sale...yet, so this isn't a pre-sale sales pitch or an invitation for a bunch of PMs asking about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author jbo
        Autoblogs are not dead, people only say that is because their perception of what an autoblog is is incorrect. All the people who market autoblog products try to sell you on the takes 10 minutes to set up and then you will start making money.

        You still need to do keywords research, set up the blog with a nice theme and the correct plugins and then do SEO work on it. It is not a 10 minutes thing it takes months to set them up properly to generate decent income.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    Eric you have touched on the very theme for why the average users fails at using the Autoblogging tools that are frequently sold, they want to believe that you do not have to do anything to gain revenue.

    It is not really their fault, because they are led down that path by marketers who are trying to sell a product, that was and is still my objection to the "autoblogging" business model,

    What you are suggesting is a custom website with unique content which will out perform auto blogging every time in every situation, because as you mentioned when you leave behind a pattern that search engines can identify you with then you risk being sandboxed by search engines, (usually only google, but that is enough)

    What I "discovered" during my experiments was when you develop custom content and you develop custom pages, and you put forth some effort it really makes a huge difference, that is what makes a website a success versus a "set it and forget it" type business model, which is no longer effective, even google agrees so you are in good company,
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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      Eric you have touched on the very theme for why the average users fails at using the Autoblogging tools that are frequently sold, they want to believe that you do not have to do anything to gain revenue.

      It is not really their fault, because they are led down that path by marketers who are trying to sell a product, that was and is still my objection to the "autoblogging" business model,

      What you are suggesting is a custom website with unique content which will out perform auto blogging every time in every situation, because as you mentioned when you leave behind a pattern that search engines can identify you with then you risk being sandboxed by search engines, (usually only google, but that is enough)

      What I "discovered" during my experiments was when you develop custom content and you develop custom pages, and you put forth some effort it really makes a huge difference, that is what makes a website a success versus a "set it and forget it" type business model, which is no longer effective, even google agrees so you are in good company,
      See now....

      We actually agree here and this is one of the points I wanted to make in our previous discussion before we got side tracked.

      Many of the autobloggers I know use custom programs to auto post content which does cut down on or change their blogs trackable footprint. I do as well and have found that mixing unique content with "scraped" content from multiple sources (not a fan of that term to be honest since it implies theft to some extent) makes for a unique way of presenting grouped content...unique or otherwise.

      This is the direction many of us think autoblogging is headed and the way it will evolve in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author esquiree
    Some people thinks it works some not. better try it out by yourself and see the result.
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  • Profile picture of the author rbrtst
    A good friend of mine owns dozens of autoblogs. They do work, but the time/effort he put into them tweaking over and over to make them effective was ridiculous. You might have better luck, but I'd say for him they haven't been worth it. He was trying to build a formula to scale up and has had some success (a few hundred a month in revenue). I'll put my vote in for creating a high quality site with high quality content and stay away from autoblogging.
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  • Profile picture of the author bontiguell
    The autoblog I set up has not provided me with much success at all. I think Autoblogs is just a lazy way to marketing, and if you want to be lazy it means less money. Original content will give you more success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shana_Adam
    Googles ultimate goal is to clear up all the content spam that is clogging up the results. If they are not shy about going after the big players by making an example of them, then its only a matter of time when all smaller websites on their radar are permanently banned and dropped - remember that they also log the ips of where the website content is coming from to make sure robots are not at play.

    Best to go back to basics - is there any other option?


    I really hate websites that waste my time with junk on them - websites that offer good content I happily stay and read 6-10 more articles because Im intrested and curious to see what else they can offer me and thats what its all about.

    Also I bookmark the websites for future use.

    I think the IM culture is one of mass hypnosis - people are hypnotised to their screens and as most sales copy uses unconcious sales signals that screams buy buy buy - the next thing you know you have bought the lastest wso and have no idea if you just had an out of body experience because you promised you would never buy another wso untill you have made use of the 100 you already have.

    Alot of products and services are marketed to people's most desperate needs emotionally.

    This forum is about helping people in both the good and bad, alot of people come here looking for guidance help and friendship at times when they are desperate so looking out for others is a must.
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  • Profile picture of the author shystar
    Because of autoblogs, I am finally starting to make consistent money. It's not a 'put up an autoblog and sit and watch it make money'. You still need to work, but it definitely works and makes my life much easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
    Originally Posted by thebalance View Post

    Hi i plan to start a few Autoblogs. Because of the duplicate Content i think that Google might see a problem or so..

    Do you recommend to still add an Autoblog via Google Webmaster tools and also monetize via adsense?

    Thank in Advance
    Outside the box? Hell yeah... but adsense is not outside the box. Let's say you're running a raffle, or fundraiser for a limited time, say 3 months, its perfectly useful to throw out a large autoblog farm with links pointing back. When the fundraiser is over, point traffic to a relevant squeeze page (to be notified of next raffle/fundraiser, etc).

    From there, it's really up to you as a marketer to work the leads into other venues like becoming facebook fans and getting out the word. The good thing about that is that you got these people from keyword targeted blogs so if they pimp you on any social media sites, it's going to be targeted leads talking to their friend network in their own targeted words...

    I never think in terms of one step... always synergies.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    It's not recommended per Google's Panda update, but some still claim autoblogs are still getting ranked decently well, but in the long run it wouldn't be a good idea
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    I wouldn't think so due to the new google/panda update ...sorry.
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  • Profile picture of the author GetMoreTraffic
    Yeah, definitely keep well away from autoblogs...

    ...so that there is more money for me My autoblogs are rocking away, with search traffic growing rapidly since the Panda update, and everything looking rosy.

    It's all about strategy. If you just throw up yet another junk autoblog, you are asking to get little traffic and zero sales. But it you think about how you can create a quality site that actually adds value, your blogs will rock. And so will your bank balance.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    dont do it, Why not create a real blog with your own thoughts and do not steal other people stuff.

    Makes sense doesnt it. Auto blogs are just the latest way to spam the internet. Great isnt it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      dont do it, Why not create a real blog with your own thoughts and do not steal other people stuff.


      Why is it that you always insist on saying that autoblogs steal other peoples content? We have been round and round about this and I know I'm not the only one who would tell you that not every autoblogger is stealing content. In fact I would venture to say that those who are stealing won’t be doing it much longer and their numbers aren’t as high as people like you think they are. It simply isn't done that way anymore celente...there are far too many sources of quality content (that's legal to use) to focus on posting other peoples content without permission.

      It's obvious you're against autoblogging but at least post a valid complaint instead of something that isn’t really done that much anymore (like it was a few years ago when autoblogging was more popular, approached differently and done with less safisticated tools)...which leads to my next point.

      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      Auto blogs are just the latest way to spam the internet. Great isnt it.


      Saying they are the "latest" way to spam the internet implies that they are new and we all know that’s not the truth...far from it actually. The fact is that is only your opinion because you don’t like autoblogging.

      Successful autobloggers aren't spamming anything, they’re building quality sites that Google keeps sending more and more traffic to (yes…even post Panda). I'm sorry if that upsets you but it's the truth. You don’t have to like it but you should at very least acknowledge that there is a big difference between what you think of as autoblogging (and regularly attack) and what many of us are actually doing today.
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    • Profile picture of the author aaronco
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      dont do it, Why not create a real blog with your own thoughts and do not steal other people stuff.

      Makes sense doesnt it. Auto blogs are just the latest way to spam the internet. Great isnt it.
      Yea...thats the ONE reason why I haven't started an autoblog yet....it just doesnt seem right...I feel like Im creating clutter rather than original value
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  • Profile picture of the author aaronco
    Been thinking about autoblogging for a while now...do they build backlinks? Im new at this...
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  • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
    SPRAY AND PRAY, FOLKS.... you could probably throw a ton of barely spun PLR out there on the web and get lucky with some of it but at least make SOME effort to find out how to not be a total bull in a china shop...
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