Confused - Clickbank and paydotcom - do people really buy this stuff?

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Dear Warriors!

Newbie and first post, so please be gentle! Fantastic forum and great advice. Only read a fraction of the articles and so much more to learn!

Have tried loads of ways of generating money online but have been unsuccesful to date - online shops, premium rate chat numbers (actually generated over $1000 a month in calls but only broke even after marketing costs) and affiliate marketing.

Now moving onto the next project and want to consider promoting Clickbank and Paydotcom products via articles with links to blogs and websites etc.

However, have spent several hours looking through Clickbank and Paydotcom and, to me, it just seems like page after page of mindless junk. Cheesey, tacky sales pages (that have me reaching for the back button before the page has even finished loading), mindless get rich quick schemes for earning $1m a year, ways of losing 2 stone in 24 hours and ways of treating illnesses with holistic methods that have no scientific or medical basis (very very scary and completely and utterly unethical!).

Do people really spend their hard earned cash on this junk? Are there any sites with quality information products to promote?

Have also spent many an hour looking for ebooks (resale rights/PLR etc) to sell via my own websites. But once again, every package that I have (been silly enough) to buy has been complete and utter rubbish (with the exception of WSO "The Newbie Blueprint" which was actually very good). Anyone know where I can get any decent ebooks to sell?

Am I missing something here? If you're convincing enough is it really possible to sell this tripe? Why would people spend $60 on an unprofesssional ebook written by someone they have never heard of when that can buy something 1000 times better from Amazon for a fraction of the cost?

Thanks,

Andy
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  • Hi Andy,

    Do people really buy this stuff - oh yeah. Clickbank processes 20,000 or more orders a day.

    As for why they pay for ebooks vs. Amazon books, I think a lot of it has to do with getting instant gratification and the market for many of these ebooks are people who are searching for the next great thing.

    One man's crap is another man's treasure essentially.

    That said, there are a lot of diamonds in the rough if you look for them - and if you can't find what you like there is always the option of making one of your own or outsourcing to get it done.

    CS
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    • The fact is that most of the products in the clickbank database are crap but some are real gems, if you know what I mean. It's up to you to find out the good ones.

      Oh, and welcome to the forums
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    • Well clickbank seems to be favoured for sellers it is 50 dollars for a seller account , i beleive amazon is 125 dollars to get started and paydotcom is absolutely free and some argue that paydotcom has a better affiliate tracking system , but if your going for a place i would suggest clickbank as they have 100k affiliates you can leverage
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  • Hi Andy
    welcome to the warrior forums


    To you it maybe mindless junk, but to people who are interested in these products it means one thing and that is "hope". They are buying hope and will most likely never use or even read the product. If something made you feel better about your life or about your body, for $49,99 + tax() , would you pay that much? Yes you would.

    I am promoting dating ebook. LOTS of sales. Every day sales. People love dating material as well as "how to make money online" stuff, also, "how to lose weight". Probably 3 hottest products on the market.


    Hope this helps
    Best regards
    Alexander
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    • Funny, sometimes I buy one of those 'mindless junk' just to beat stress!

      I actually feel better after spending the money, believe it or not!

      Of course, I mostly buy from the wso section.
  • Andy, it sounds like not alot has been working for you lately. Your saying you have spent lots of money on marketing but only broke even. Not good bro.

    Have you tried selling anything on ebay before? Thats a good way of getting your product in front of lots of hungry customers with a credit card in their hand literally ready to buy!

    I would reccomend trying it if you have not already.

  • You can never be sure if a product is crap until you've read and used it yourself.

    Avoid jumping to conclusions unless you're sure... and one reliable way to verify their quality (if you don't want to buy them) is to read reviews of those products.

    Be careful and open-minded when reading reviews though, as some could get biased just to make some sales.
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    • I've bought a lot of good products from both ClickBank and PayDotCom. So saying all of it is junk is a little unfair. And the fact that the sales letter might look a little loud and flashy often has nothing to do with the quality of the product. Really, the only way to know whether a product is garbage or not is to buy it and judge for yourself.
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  • Hi Andy. The answer to your question is "yes" - ppl
    will buy anything. However, if you feel that CB & PDC
    products are junkie, you can either develop your own
    digital data or establish an account with aff networks
    such as CJ or SAS and promote "real" stuff.
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    • You're having a bit of elitist attitude looking down all these products. You are not your target audience. Remember that. If everything is "rubbish" write your own info product and sell it.
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  • Hi Andy,

    Great question to ask for your first post.

    Eventually, you are going to clear your doubts and move on beyond a newbie mindset.

    For clickbank and paydotcom, since you have not bought any, I feel it is too early to label all of them as "mindless junk".

    Perhaps you have "tried" many ways to make money online, may I ask what exactly did you do and what the conversions are and whether you did seek advice from someone who is successful and fine tune your methods.

    Many Warriors here have been making money online but their successes sure don't happen overnight.

    Most have persevere for many years and fine tune their methods till they work and are bringing them lots of passive income month;ly, some 5 figures while others 6 figures.

    For others who say IM does not work, most likely they "tried" it (not do whatever it takes) or they just keep on buying IM products, read a few pages and chuck it somewhere to collect cyber dust.

    Cheers,
    John
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    • Andy,

      I agree. Most of the products are terrible. But not all.

      In my niche, there are maybe 20 ebooks that I've found so far. I'd say 17 of them are terrible. Three are good - mine and two others.

      I usually go by testimonials, but I know way too many people who make those up. It's not something I personally can stomach doing, but I know a lot of successful marketers who DO do it.

      However, for me, getting those kinds of testimonials is just awesome. The ones where people tell you how much you have improved their lives. It reaffirms to me that my product is good and is making a difference.

      One thing I have found is to check who is advertising on PPC networks - those are the products that are profitable and convert well. Also check to see how long they have been around.

      If a site has been around a fair while and is still advertising on PPC networks (or anything that costs money, really) then they are likely to be a good bet.

      -Dan
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  • I don't know if this will help you but I threw up a directy with a bunch of ebooks, many of which have resell rights for another warrior this week past.

    You or any other warrior may download them as you see fit.

    The link to the directory is;
    htttp://www.componga.com/Nowak

    Let me know how it turns out and I will probably remove the directory next week to save on hositing space.
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    • To add on to what Andy Fletcher said,

      There are various Marketing Techniques we use and this affects the sales too.

      Marketing can be simply from:
      1. PPC campaign
      2. SEO
      3. Article marketing
      4. Social traffic
      5. Forums marketing
      6. Ad swap
      7. JVs
      8. Email marketing through list building

      And the more Targeted the customers are, the more sales you will get.

      John
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  • Hey Andy,

    First of all, I'm glad you liked my e-book and that it was the exception!

    Now, the truth is, those things in CB and Paydotcom sell.

    And some are actually pretty good. The thing with those sales letters is that it has basically become a standard in the industry, but sometimes there are really good products hidden behind them.

    I'll send you a PM with a few suggestions.

    Best of luck,

    Daniel Molano
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    • There's a lot of junk in the bookstore too. Ugly covers, boring writing, and wrong information. Anytime you have a huge repository like a bookstore or clickbank, there's bound to be some junk.

      On the other hand, just because you see it as 'tripe' doesn't make it tripe. I feel the same way about most of the 'graphic novels' on the market today. I think they're awful. But that's big business too.

      Like others here have said, you have to find the gems among the stones.

      But you don't have to sell anything from Clickbank, ever. There are thousands of other products with affiliate programs.

      Best of luck,
      Honey
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