I Need Help/Advice PLEASE!!

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I am in serious need of a steady income. I currently have a self help/life coaching website/business which is taking time to build and not working out very well. I would prefer to kick my internet marketing into high gear instead of getting a JOB but will do what I must.

In order to do that though, I need money and cash flow. So I have an idea that I need advice on to see if it is worth the effort and time or not.

Here is the idea.

Every week I would release a 45 - 60 minute audio with a workbook related to the topic of the week. The workbook would add extra content and information as well as exercises designed to help people develop a deeper understanding of the topic.

That would be 4 audio and workbook programs a month so to speak, a total of at least 3 hours of audio if not more.

If I were to offer it to people on the forum as a WSO for $37 and offer PLR for only those on the warrior forum, is this something that people would be interested in as a monthly subscription.

If not, what would I have to do in order to make it more valuable.

Topics would include:
1. Goal setting and helping with the right mindset for success.
2. Business development related topics.
3. Internet marketing strategies and topics.

Basically it would be geared toward success, success mindedness, business development, and the like.

Also, would people on the forum be willing/interested in selling the monthly subscription for 50 - 75% of a $47 a month subscription to people.

So the questions and advice I need would be as follows:
1. Would people on the forum pay $37 for something like this monthly if I gave PLR rights to only those on the forum to do with it as they please.
2. If not, what would have to be added in order to provide enough value for people to be interested in purchasing the monthly subscription including lowering the price or adding more material even if that means 2 - 3 programs a week.
3. Would people be interested in selling the program as an affiliate if I were to offer an affiliate program to the general public for $47 a month but that would NOT include private label rights.

this is one idea I would really like some advice and help with as I would enjoy putting together a weekly program for people that is geared toward helping them be more successful and move closer toward what they want in their lives in terms of finances and business.

In order for me to really make this work and grow it into something even bigger, I would need 100 subscribers from the forum alone at $37 a month which would be $3700 a month income.

At 75% commission on a $47 a month subscription would mean $35.25 for the affiliate each month leaving $11.75 for me which would mean that I need at least 250 subscribers all affiliate sales a month in order to create enough cash flow to survive and invest in additional websites for a long term business and income.

Please help, also hoping no one steals my idea before I get enough feedback to make a decision but the level of integrity of this forum allows me to feel comfortable that my idea is safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author ricoramiro
    With the kinds of commissions you're offering why not give Clickbank a try. I just made a sale on a monthly commission product and every time that person pays his monthly fees I'll get money.

    Besides, with Clickbank you'll have people who are professional affiliates selling your product for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      I currently have a self help/life coaching website/business
      I Need Help/Advice PLEASE!!
      also hoping no one steals my idea before I get enough feedback to make a decision but the level of integrity of this forum allows me to feel comfortable that my idea is safe.

      So, let me get this straight. You are in the "self help" business but you have no idea how to help yourself?

      Also, if you are worried about someone stealing an idea, well - lol. I wouldn't be too worried about that if I were you. It's a big wide web out there. If you are concerned about putting something out there on the web in a giant room full of strangers then maybe you should not have put it out there. But again, I don't see anything here to be afraid to put on the table. None of it is really anything new in this particular case. Just food for thought in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author Spencer Jones
    Nobody can tell for sure if it'll work or not work. The thing to do is boldly go ahead and do it. This is something that many in the internet marketing niche lack and one of the major cause of failure... Just do it and you'll know... If it works you got your plan working... If not... try plan B...

    Wishing all success
    Dr.Spencer Jones
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
    As suggested I would put it in Clickbank but don't leave out Click2sell.eu and of course paydotcom.com they all have affiliates selling for you.
    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author tomokun
      Considering that honesty is the best policy, you may want to think twice about selling a product as an expert when you're NOT an expert. (E.G. experts are getting paid for their information.)

      However, there is nothing wrong with say giving away a Free WSO with good content and building a list which you use to market other products.

      There is nothing wrong in you giving out paid content which you ARE a bona-fide expert in.

      The best thing you can do is to find out what people want, and then give it to them. Don't spend time you don't have on creating a product that you have no idea if people will want. Look at the forums, look at what's selling, and you'll have a better idea of what people are looking for.

      THAT's the best place to start down your path to money.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Originally Posted by degcommunications View Post

    At 75% commission on a $47 a month subscription would mean $35.25 for the affiliate each month leaving $11.75 for me which would mean that I need at least 250 subscribers all affiliate sales a month in order to create enough cash flow to survive and invest in additional websites for a long term business and income.
    You are forgetting that Clickbank takes their 2.5% plus $1 off the top, BEFORE you and the affiliate split the rest 75%/25%. Which means that you will only end up with about $10.60 for each sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author craighawkins
    It sounds like your over complicating things to me. You would be better of creating your products first and testing them in the market place, that's before you even think about affiliation. The problem is, that it is really difficult to be detached from your own ideas, and what you may think is the next great idea since sliced bread, may not seem that way to others. And the fact is that whether a product will fly or not, is revealed in the numbers... the numbers never lie.

    That's not to put a downer on what you are doing... I admire your enthusiasm. But have you done any number crunching, to see if what you are offering is feasible. It would be sad if you put all that effort in and at the end of it nobody was buying.

    Also, and this is following up on what someone else already mentioned... you said: "Basically it would be geared toward success" ...You have already said what you are doing is "not working out very well" ...I would personally feel very uncomfortable trying to teach success principles to others... unless I had achieved some of that success myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author degcommunications
    Wow, great feedback. I know how to help myself, just because I am asking for advice doesn't mean I don't. What I am looking for so to speak is market testing. Is this is a product that people would be willing to get involved with.

    What I lack isn't the self help knowledge, somehow you guys all missed that.

    What I lack is the ability to gather tons of affiliates quickly.

    Before I spent the $20 to post it as a WSO I wanted to test the idea and see what kind of feedback I got. If everyone said it sucked and they wouldn't be willing to pay for it then I would keep moving. If the feedback was even a little bit warm, I would be willing to give it a shot.

    What I don't want is to spend 10 hours a week making the product for 3 people.

    That's where I need the help. I am or would be considered an expert in the self help area. It's the marketing the website and building a client list quickly that I need some work on so here I am.

    So instead of attacking me and my expertize, could we give some honest feedback about the idea.

    I am taking action, this is it, and it's called testing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Hi degcommunications,

      I read your thread with ambivalent feelings. It's hard to give exact answer.

      Apart from this...

      As you know, making money online is demand and supply issue.

      Do you have a subscriber list? What type is your audience? Are you know their real wants? Are you able to deliver / over deliver?

      Value is relative for people. Which is suitable to one man, it is not certain that the other is also pleased with that.

      But, only testing will show you the right way. So, your action is laudable. Carry on!

      Many successes,

      Sandor
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    • Profile picture of the author ngilli
      This is just my opinion here, maybe THIS forum is not the one that would be interested in this type of product or membership. There are probably lots of forums with people that need this product/membership.
      I think you may have asked the wrong question so you did not get the responses you were looking for.
      Perhaps asking for help with marketing such a product as though you had already created it (even though you haven't) would have gotten you the answers you were looking for.
      Try asking on self-help related forums if anyone would be interested. See what type of answers you get and perhaps you could do a survey of the responders to see which direction to go.
      Hope this helps you in some way.
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  • Profile picture of the author monsternet
    Best thing is to just go out and do it. Nobody can say whether it will work or not. I can't even tell you, with all the years I have been online, and the 8 figure companies I have consulted. The audience is who will tell you, and they will tell you quick.

    I would personally use ClickBank to launch it.

    To find out if it will work or not is to simply go after it. Focus on nothing more than getting traffic to it and converting that traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author degcommunications
    Clickbank is where I would start. I already have an account there that I need to get back up and running and since I have already paid the fee for the account my plan is to use Clickbank.

    Does anyone have any advice to building a list of affiliates fairly quickly.

    What I mean by not working is that I am not making enough sales/money to pay the bills right now so what I am after is a main product/service which would be the weekly audio/workbook program to promote.

    Obviously it's a difficult question to answer as you don't know me or the product or the quality of either myself or the product but let's assume both are high quality.

    Is this something you would promote as an affiliate?

    Would the commission be high enough for anyone to want to promote it and is it the type of product that is worth $47 a month to the general public?

    It might be a better product for self help forums however, my intention would be to gear it toward success not just self help.

    So it would include topics such as system development for your business, outsourcing how to, why, where etc...

    What mindset is necessary for success and how to develop that mindset.

    Why marketing is about understanding who your market is, where to find them, and exactly what to say to them.

    How to gather the demographics of your market such as age, sex, income, marital status, number of kids, typical profession, etc..

    I want to make it about more than self help and this is just a preliminary stage for me to gather some information, advice, and any other information I can about the idea in order to get a feel for whether or not it's even worth the time and effort.

    Of course I know that it's impossible to tell without actually taking it to the market and letting the numbers know however, be that as it may, the people here are a great group of people who know what they are talking about and 99% of the time are of extremely high integrity, honesty, and of a high degree of morals. More so than any other site I have found especially within the internet marketing world which is why this is always the place I come back to in order to learn and have especially lately been really digging into and learning from. Also why I paid to be a part of the paid areas of the forum.

    So I thought I would start here and get feedback from all of you first.

    So here are the exact questions I would like answered and I hope this is more clear.

    1. Considering I gave out samples and those as well as the product were of very high quality with great feedback and remarks from people, would you promote this type of product as an affiliate?

    2. How can I go about gathering a large number of good affiliates in as short a period of time as possible?

    3. Would you as an internet marketer pay $37 a month for 3 - 4 hours of audio and 4 reports or ebooks related to those specific topics related to business development and success including everything from the mindset to goal setting to actually tracking and quantifying the results you are getting and exactly how to go about improving those results. I would also include Private Label Rights only for people within the warrior forum to do with each weeks material whatever they wished which would not be included for the general public.

    Hopefully this helps clarify what I am after.

    Sorry if I wasn't very clear or if my intention wasn't very easy to understand.
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    • Profile picture of the author ResearchDiva
      Here are a couple of suggestions that may help you focus:

      Affiliates like to promote products that are presented well. That means a good video salespage (check out the website for James Wedmore - he's very good at this), lead capturing on the sales page, and followup. Your affiliates are going to want to know that once they make the efforts to get a potential buyer to your product, that you will do you part to continue to promote to the lead. Make sense?

      You could have a great product/idea, but if it is packaged poorly nobody will take the time to give it a spin.

      Take a look at the top seller in Clickbank. See what kind of support the product creators offer in the way of banners, salespages, email followups, etc.

      Another possibility is to put up a blog in your field of expertise and start becoming visable as the expert. This can help you build your own list as well.

      PLR can be a good way to get your product out there if delivered properly.

      Finally, focus on your service first. I know that jumping to the numbers and how much you need to make to pay the bills is a motivation, but if you provide a good product and get the right packaging and marketing, then the money will follow.

      Hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    You say you're in the self help/life coaching business. A couple of people have pointed out that you're not really able to help yourself. You insist you know the stuff and are just asking for advice. I'm not buying that but here's a question for you.

    In your capacity as a life coach, say someone in your exact situation showed up one day as a client and told you the story you laid out here. What would you tell them? That your plan is a good one and to go ahead with it? Or would you suck it up and tell them (you) to get things under control by taking a paying job until you can actually get yourself in the position to deliver legitimate advice to others? That's the real question.

    If you're familiar with the personal development field perhaps you've heard of Harv Eker. He's a bit of a hardass at times but sometimes that's what people need. Harv says, (in high volume) YOU SAY YOU KNOW IT? YOU DON'T KNOW IT UNTIL YOU LIVE IT. This is his answer when someone in one of his seminars sighs because they've heard a particular principle before.

    Sure, they've heard it before but have never really embraced it. Sound familiar? Not here to bust your chops, bud, but this applies to all of us at one time or another and now it's your turn. Get the job. Good luck
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