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15 years ago

My opinion isn't going to be nice, so if you are sensitive, then you might want to look away.

If you have been at it for over two years and have yet to make a single dime, then you need to take a step back and evaluate your flaws. Yes, I said flaws. You obviously have some.

You say that you have spent over a grand on lessons. Great, but what have you done with these lessons? I'm willing to bet that you have read them and then moved on to the next.

You biggest flaws are most likely a lack of attention and lack of commitment to a single method.

I have no idea what lessons that you've bought, but you need to be thinking basics. Go through your library and see if you have anything that teaches you a single method. Read it, watch it, whatever... then act. Put everything else aside and work on one method at a time.

If you cannot do this, then stick to your day job.

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Dennis K 15 years ago

Thanks for reply. Well i have been buying a guide, reading it, trying it, failing it and then move on to the next. The problem is that i am always one step back in terms of time. All information is outdated or old and so many people did it that it no longer works. Perhaps someone could direct me to a proper guide for me to start with? One that actually works (if applied correctly from my behalf of course) Thanks
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LegitIncomes

15 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

My opinion isn't going to be nice, so if you are sensitive, then you might want to look away.

If you have been at it for over two years and have yet to make a single dime, then you need to take a step back and evaluate your flaws. Yes, I said flaws. You obviously have some.

You say that you have spent over a grand on lessons. Great, but what have you done with these lessons? I'm willing to bet that you have read them and then moved on to the next.

You biggest flaws are most likely a lack of attention and lack of commitment to a single method.

I have no idea what lessons that you've bought, but you need to be thinking basics. Go through your library and see if you have anything that teaches you a single method. Read it, watch it, whatever... then act. Put everything else aside and work on one method at a time.

If you cannot do this, then stick to your day job.

I completely agree. The OP obviously has all the information they need to be successful, it's just a matter of getting down to work, focusing, not giving up, etc...

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15 years ago

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Dennis K

15 years ago

Interesting..So i need to start again from 0. What guide/method do you recommend for me to start with?

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DireStraits 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Xellero

Interesting..So i need to start again from 0. What guide/method do you recommend for me to start with?

Forget "guides", Xellero. If you've been buying "how to make money online" products at the rate you imply, then you likely already know all you need to know (even if you don't know it!) about the individual elements that make up a successful, workable online marketing strategy. You're just lacking focus, I think.

Decide on what kinds of products you want to promote: digital (e.g. Clickbank products) or physical (e.g. Amazon products)?

You need to make this decision because your entire strategy will typically differ depending on what sort of products you're promoting. Mine does, at least.

Pick one, and then I will devise a basic strategy for you. Simples.
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scrofford 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Xellero

Interesting..So i need to start again from 0. What guide/method do you recommend for me to start with?

STOP BUYING GUIDES AND METHODS LOL! You ALREADY know what to do! Just do it bro! You have the knowledge and now you just need to put together a plan and take the action necessary!
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Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Xellero

Hello everyone. I've been into internet marketing for over 2 years now and i didn't make a SINGLE CENT online. I have bought the first 4 pages from clickbank on E-business and E-marketing and NOTHING worked. Mostly rewritten and old/outdated information that i have already learned. I have tried buying domains , do some SEO, write articles, use facebook( fan pages, buy ads ) use Adwords, Adsense tried free traffic , paid traffic CPA and many more.

I have spent over 1000$ on training and software with the hope that one day i could make some money online but it didn't happen. I live in a country where the average income per month is 250$ and i always wished to buy those things that i couldn't afford.

On my journey i learned (above intermediate) Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, Design/Web Design, Web Language( CSS HTML PHP ) , i am an expert with Photoshop and i can make good looking websites fairly easy.

I just want to be an affiliate marketer and i never did 1 single sale. I tried guitar niche, make money niche and fitness niche. Getting on first page on Google is way to hard and time consuming as well as creating my own product.

After more than 2 long years, I feel that i should quit..How you guys started? How did you make your first sale as an affiliate? How did you build your list? Anything that could help me it would be great.

Thank you very much.

You've done a lot more than a lot of newbs. You've learned some valuable skills. Change your focus. Not a success at affiliate marketing? Who cares?

Sell services. There's plenty of people who need help with Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, Design/Web Design, Web Language( CSS HTML PHP ), and Photoshop. There's Fiverr for some quick cash, there's Warriors for Hire section here on WF, many freelance sites.

Since you can build and design sites, there's also website flipping.

Don't be married to affiliate marketing. It's only one way to make money online.

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MrDay

15 years ago

It sounds like you know quite a bit, you should capitalize on your skills and products you already own.

Have you ever thought about offering a service and getting paid instantly?

I don't think affiliate marketing is really that hard, it just takes the right skills and mindset. Duhh, that was really helpful.

I don't really know what to tell you that you probably haven't already heard.

I made my first sale affiliate marketing probably within the first few weeks of starting.

I found a problem, then chose a CB product that solved the problem. I created a FREE blogger blog and made a simple landing page. Then started promoting it with article marketing, social media and etc...

The sales started to roll in, not just one or two, I made thousands, literally.

I've been basically using that same model ever since.

-Just Find a problem, offer a solution, and show it to the right audience. It's really that basic.

I didn't buy any ebooks on internet marketing, but I did get some guidance from the good ol "bum marketing method".

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by MrDay

It sounds like you know quite a bit, you should capitalize on your skills and products you already own.

Have you ever thought about offering a service and getting paid instantly?

This is what I was thinking. OP, you say you learned all those platform and coding skills along the way, hop over to the Warrior for Hire section and convert those skills into a profitable business.

It costs $20 to place an ad and that ad can pay for itself many times over if you're good enough.

Good luck!

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scrofford

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Xellero

Hello everyone. I've been into internet marketing for over 2 years now and i didn't make a SINGLE CENT online. I have bought the first 4 pages from clickbank on E-business and E-marketing and NOTHING worked. Mostly rewritten and old/outdated information that i have already learned. I have tried buying domains , do some SEO, write articles, use facebook( fan pages, buy ads ) use Adwords, Adsense tried free traffic , paid traffic CPA and many more.

I have spent over 1000$ on training and software with the hope that one day i could make some money online but it didn't happen. I live in a country where the average income per month is 250$ and i always wished to buy those things that i couldn't afford.

On my journey i learned (above intermediate) Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, Design/Web Design, Web Language( CSS HTML PHP ) , i am an expert with Photoshop and i can make good looking websites fairly easy.

I just want to be an affiliate marketer and i never did 1 single sale. I tried guitar niche, make money niche and fitness niche. Getting on first page on Google is way to hard and time consuming as well as creating my own product.

After more than 2 long years, I feel that i should quit..How you guys started? How did you make your first sale as an affiliate? How did you build your list? Anything that could help me it would be great.

Thank you very much.

It really sounds like you have a focus issue. Hear me through. I think it's great you've learned all of these things and they can help you. I think the first thing you need to do though is quit jumping around all over the place and decide on exactly what it is you are going to do to make money.

Quit buying the guides and decide today to take action. I've had the same problem before and it's all about focus and then actually doing what you know you need to do. There's no secret to it. Just decide and take the skills you have and implement them.

I understand where you are coming from and have felt the exact same way. Take some time to go clear your head and then get busy. It takes work but you can do it! I hope this encourages you!

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LB

15 years ago

It sounds like you are trying to hit a long-distance target with a shotgun.

When you finally reach it, you are too spread out to do any damage and now your shoulder's sore.

Quit trying to "MAKE MONEY."

Instead, find a real market need or want and fill it while researching how you can profit from doing so.

The world does not care that you want to "MAKE MONEY".

The market is selfish.
The market wants their dreams fulfilled.
The market wants their hopes encouraged.
The market wants their pain to end.
The market wants to know, "what's in it for ME?"

Stop trying to "MAKE MONEY", instead figure out how you can fill a market need and get paid for it.

The market does not care how much money you make, but they will happily pay for products and services that fulfill their needs and wants.

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jgant

15 years ago

Originally Posted by LB

It sounds like you are trying to hit a long-distance target with a shotgun.

When you finally reach it, you are too spread out to do any damage and now your shoulder's sore.

Quit trying to "MAKE MONEY."

Instead, find a real market need or want and fill it while researching how you can profit from doing so.

The world does not care that you want to "MAKE MONEY".

The market is selfish.
The market wants their dreams fulfilled.
The market wants their hopes encouraged.
The market wants their pain to end.
The market wants to know, "what's in it for ME?"

Stop trying to "MAKE MONEY", instead figure out how you can fill a market need and get paid for it.

The market does not care how much money you make, but they will happily pay for products and services that fulfill their needs and wants.

The quote above is fantastic advice (as is many other posts in this thread). My biggest money-making site is the site I offer the most information including tutorials, informative articles, and in-depth reviews. Sure, I have some pre-sales pages throughout the site, but the site offers much, much more.

Analyze your buying habits for the guides you've bought and non IM products online you've purchased. Go back to them. Which sites did you find helpful to help your buying decisions? If those sites sold you, chances are they're good sites; something you could use as an example.

When I started analyzing the sites I subscribed to and purchased through, I discovered they were sites that were extremely helpful and thorough. They didn't reek of selling; instead they were all about answering my questions.

Once I analyzed the sites I liked as a consumer, I had some blueprints to follow. At the end of the day it's all about the advice in the quote above.

The trouble is it can't be done overnight. You don't create a killer site overnight, but you can write a killer post in a day. Then another killer post the next day. Promote (SEO, guest blog posts, social media - whatever gets targeted traffic) those posts on day 3. Rinse and repeat. Build trust with your readers. Then write a killer review of a product/service you use, that works, and you like related to your topic. Promote that post like crazy.

Don't forget to research buying keywords for each post, especially your pre-sales page. Direct your visitors via internal links throughout your site to your pre-selling page.

Write, publish, promote (i.e. backlinks, article marketing, bookmarking, social media) ... rinse and repeat.

Don't forget to write quality. Write the best articles in your niche. Write the best and most helpful reviews in your niche. Give, give, give and in time, ONCE YOU GET TRAFFIC, you can get a sale.

It's not about quantity of posts, but quality. Customers prefer 1 quality, informative article/review over 50 garbage articles. Edit relentlessly. Give it your all. Don't worry about word count - just inform to the maximum. Your readers will love you and you'll build trust. Once a reader trusts your recommendation, you can make a sale. Just don't betray that trust - recommend top-notch stuff.

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B.Smit

15 years ago

Originally Posted by LB

It sounds like you are trying to hit a long-distance target with a shotgun.

When you finally reach it, you are too spread out to do any damage and now your shoulder's sore.

Quit trying to "MAKE MONEY."

Instead, find a real market need or want and fill it while researching how you can profit from doing so.

The world does not care that you want to "MAKE MONEY".

The market is selfish.
The market wants their dreams fulfilled.
The market wants their hopes encouraged.
The market wants their pain to end.
The market wants to know, "what's in it for ME?"

Stop trying to "MAKE MONEY", instead figure out how you can fill a market need and get paid for it.

The market does not care how much money you make, but they will happily pay for products and services that fulfill their needs and wants.

Thanks, LB, for saying word for word exactly what I wanted to add to the discussion.

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Dennis K

15 years ago

Thank you all for replies..it seems that all i need is a coach that is already making money online and who can guide me in the right way. All available PM me to discuss the pricing. Already found 1.

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Michael Truong

15 years ago

You don't need a coach xellero... because you have the methods to make money already.

A couch will not teach you how to apply yourself. You really need to slow down with the information buying and start doing more.

You have skills as a web developer now. Why not create a business model around it? I'm sure that there are many start up businesses around your area that are seeking expertise like yours. Why not start a website making business?

It is quite competitive but you can do most of your marketing OFFLINE which is where lots of people are still looking.

Just think outside the box and begin to apply yourself... you will definately make money if you take affirmative action.

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joseph despariak

15 years ago

Xelloro,

Here is a good plan for you to follow if you really want to make money online.
First, do not buy any more info products and secondly, stop trying to be an affiliate of someone's product.

I found in 2009 when I started marketing online that the only and best way to make money was to create my own product.

I wrote a "how to" book on a niche and promoted that book using various methods, that one book has generated over $20,000 in sales since 2009 and still today I make sales on it.

You can easily do the same and here is a way that may help you.

You stated in your OP that "i am an expert with Photoshop"
You should work on an eBook on "how to use photoshop"

Since you already know the ins and outs, an inexpensive simple guide to teach how to use photoshop could be a small goldmine.

Set your book up in an easy to use format, using something like openoffice to write it as a PDF. You could have someone edit it or even spruce it up for a small fee.
Then you can list the book for sale on a site like LuLu or clickbank. Target your book price to around $9.95 or so to make it an easy buy decision for people even on the fence or a limited budget.
Build your blog or website to offer free tips on how to use photoshop with a link to your book's salespage.

Essentially, you will use your knowledge of photoshop to teach.
Additionally, you can offer free lessons via email and build an opt-in list to later sell to those that joined your list.

You have the knowledge to undertake this project and with the right motivation, you could easily generate the $250per month you desire.

You can build your blogs and articles to direct traffic using the related keywords and phrases from "how to use photoshop". The best keyword tool to use would be Google.

I realize this is a short synopsis of what you can do, and I am more than happy to help you with any additional points or questions you may have.

Best to you,
Joe

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InternetMarketingIQ

15 years ago

Clearly you are NOT marketing.

Marketing involved defining a market and then figuring out what to do with the market you define.

If you have no idea who your customer is and what they want you won't ever sell anything except for some random luck.

What you have NOT learned so far is this... it's not about you, it's about them. When you figure that out things will start to fall into place.

Not everyone is good at this... in fact most people will never make enough money to support themselves. Figure out what you are good at and go do that.

Just because you want to be in the NBA... doesn't mean you have the talent to make it no matter how hard you practice.

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Kim Phoenix

15 years ago

I agree that you do not necessarily need a coach. If you already know how to make sites, then you are farther ahead than most people. As another person says, affiliate marketing is one aspect of making money online. I have several niche blogs, some of which make better money than others. To get on the first page of google, you need to build backlinks and make the search engines see your information as valuable. I only use unique content (I rewrite PLR), I write articles and submit them to article directories like Ezine Articles and Isnare (I also use Unique Article Wizard - I hire someone otherwise it's a high monthly fee that you don't need to invest in right now), I do social bookmarking, submit RSS feeds, and doing all of this can get you moving up in the ranks of Google. You need to create master content. In other words, don't just set up one page and call that your site. Use Wordpress as it is well-liked by Google. Put Google Adsense on your sites to make some money. I personally like being an affiliate of Amazon. People seem to know Amazon, and buy from there.
I'd suggest that if you know how to design websites, etc, that you head on over to Fiverr.com and set up some gigs. You will make some money that way too. And start creating a list of customers that may purchase more from you later. I hope that helps you. Make a plan, and stay focused on one thing at a time.

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Doug Wakefield 15 years ago

You have a focus issue.

I wrestle the same demons. They are vicious.

I have been successful in quite a few ways, but never really had things take off until recently. Now that I have chosen an area to work around, things are becoming much easier... and my lack of focus time has given me a huge cache of information to create products around.
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Daniel Harper

15 years ago

Here's my advice:

Identify your strongest skill set -- your area of competence if you will -- and focus on that and nothing else.

It's tought to get anywhere being a jack of all trades. You say you're good at building webpages? Do that and ONLY that. Forget affiliate marketing. Help affiliate marketers build web pages by selling them your services.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Harper

Here's my advice:

Identify your strongest skill set -- your area of competence if you will -- and focus on that and nothing else.

It's tought to get anywhere being a jack of all trades. You say you're good at building webpages? Do that and ONLY that. Forget affiliate marketing. Help affiliate marketers build web pages by selling them your services.

Then learn how they want things set up and for what reason, and use that information to help you build your own affiliate sites later on.

No different than offering your services as a writer to marketers. Get paid to learn how to do things the right way.

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15 years ago

Find something you love doing. Teaching people how to make money when your not making money is false. What are your hobbies? flying, fly fishing, people watching, skipping rocks, painting, cooking? Invest your time into something you enjoy doing and you will find more success than you can believe.

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williamrs

15 years ago

When you're a beginner, the more things you do the less money you make.

The "secret" to make money online is simple: master one system. You don't need to buy tons of products and try all of the methods and traffic sources out there. Just choose something that you're comfortable with and stick with it.

For example, you said you've tried Facebook Ads, so let me ask you a few questions:

1. How many campaign have you run?

2. Have you tried to promote CPA offers?

3. If so, what type of offers?

4. Have you tried to capture leads and use autoresponder series?

5. Have you tried international markets? (they can be a lot easier)

And I could ask a lot more questions like these...

You should never think that you will read a report, implement the method and make money in the next day. There is a always a learning curve and the only way to eliminate it is by learning from the practice.

So stop jumping from one system to another and put your focus on something. Try it for one week, and if you don't make money, try it for one month. Still no profits? So try it for 6 months! Just don't lose your focus, because if you change the system you will be just starting everything over again.

Understand this: every failure teaches you something and makes your learning curve shorter, so don't be afraid of failing, be afraid of not trying again.

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Jill Carpenter

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Xellero

Thank you all for replies..it seems that all i need is a coach that is already making money online and who can guide me in the right way. All available PM me to discuss the pricing. Already found 1.

No, coaching is the last thing you need IMO.

Originally Posted by Xellero

How you guys started? How did you make your first sale as an affiliate? How did you build your list? Anything that could help me it would be great.

Thank you very much.

How I did it and how you do it may be 2 completely different stories.

I made my first affiliate commission within 3-4 days of getting a website up. Not trying to rub anything in, just pointing out that you are making things more difficult then they have to be.

What is perhaps harder to do is create a long term sustainable business that you can grow.

So, here is my question to you. Where is your actual business plan? Can you send me a copy of that? Would you have any idea of what that looks like?

Because the business plan comes before the marketing plan.

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krjewellers

15 years ago

You need to start making money to support you internet affiliate marketing
habit. It's not as easy as some would make it seem in my opinion, or else
we'd all be rich, and I wouldn't be trying to get you on the right path.

Make money while you're looking for the home run. Sell services as you have
acquired some skills. Also, I would recommend selling things on eBay. I can't
believe I said it, but that is about the surest thing on the internet. If you can't
make a profit on eBay, give it up altogether. I'm joking, but that's true.

I've had affiliate success with Insurance Lead Generation and Amazon. You need
to know your SEO as you may not be able to make a profit with PPC. All depends,
but I use SEO to make the lead to convert to cash. Hope this gives you some
ideas. Never quit -- keep your chin up and your head down.

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JRCarson

15 years ago

Just do it.

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ElizabethAdams

15 years ago

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Hello, Xellero ...

I just want to be an affiliate marketer and i never did 1 single sale.
I tried guitar niche, make money niche and fitness niche. Getting on
first page on Google is way to hard and time consuming as well as
creating my own product.

Most people don't know what they want.
They just know that what they got ain't it.

You, however, do know what you want.
You want to be an affiliate marketer.

It's a worthy goal!

Your only problem is, it's over there on the other side of an abyss
called "The Way Things Should Be," and you're over here on this side
called "The Way Things Are Now," and you haven't been able to leap
across this abyss in a single bound like Superman, so you've come in
here to ask where we all got our wings, so you go can get some, too.

It's a fair question!

And the answer is so simple you'll be surprised you didn't think of it yourself.

You have to build a bridge *backwards* from "The Way Things Should Be"
to "The Way Things Are Now" ... and then you just follow the steps across.

Kapeesh?

And the way you do that is, you repeatedly ask yourself a pair of questions
until you get "Yes!" for an answer.

Like so:

Q I want to be an affiliate marketer. Can I do that tomorrow?

A No.

Q What has to happen before that can happen?

A Well, let's see ... I would have to be receiving lots of commission checks
from lots of merchants/vendors of products/services.

Q Can I do that tomorrow?

A No.

Q What has to happen before than can happen?

A Well, let's see ... lots of prospective customers that I send to these
merchants/vendors of products/services would have to buy something.

Q Can I make that happen tomorrow?

A No.

Q What has to happen before that can happen?

A Well, let's see ... about twenty times more people than prospective customers
would have to visit a webpage of mine that had something on it they wanted,
because everybody knows that, on average, only 2 visitors out of 100 will buy.

Q Is that something I can make happen tomorrow?

A No.

Q What has to happen before that can happen?

A Well, let's see ... a whole lot of people would have to be searching for a solution
to a problem they have, like not having anybody to go out with, or not having
enough money to spend, or not having a figure like a fashion model, or not
having a reliable way of getting rid of slugs and snails in their garden ...

Q Is that something I can do tomorrow?
Can I find a whole lot of people looking for a solution to a problem they have?

A Yes!

I could go to Magazines.com and look at all the magazines that have been created
for people who love to garden (and want to get rid of slugs and snails), or who have
hobbies like golf, or electric trains, or scrapbooking (and are ready to spend all the
extra money they have on their hobby), on the theory that nobody in their right mind
would go to the trouble of starting and maintaining a magazine, if there weren't a
whole lot of people who would be interested in reading it, because magazines
aren't really about hobbies anymore than newspapers are really about news.
What they're *really* about is *advertising*.

Xellero, an *audience* is the first plank in your "bridge" across the abyss
that's between you and your goal.

Once you have an audience of real, flesh-and-blood people searching for a solution
to a problem they have, then in order to lay down the next plank in your bridge,
all you have to do is go where they are. Offline, you would get a mailing list.
Online, you would simply go to Google and type in "gardening + forums"
and then join, listen and learn. Find out what their interests are ...
their problems ... maybe you can solve one of them ...

Xellero, it's an age-old truth, that we tend to buy from people we know and trust.
And the way people get to know us online is through the information we share.
Nobody takes an advertising-love pill at night before they go to sleep so that they
can wake up the next morning and go to Google and soak up the advertisements.

Rather, we go online to find information and friends and fellowship.

We are, first and foremost, *people* who are interested in something ...
who have hopes and dreams we long to fulfull ...

For proof of this, go to MyGoals. com, or 43Things.com ...

We will gladly -- joyously! -- shell out money to someone we trust
for something we crave ...

We are not a "market" ... we are not even a "niche market" ...

We are flesh-and-blood human beings who will give you the shirt off our backs
and help you in any way we can ...

We'll gobble up all your delicious hamburgers and french fries and beg for more!

Especially when we're hungry!

If you look into your heart and examine your own buying behavior,
you will see that this is true ...

You are a person ... a person who has a problem he hasn't been able to solve,
maybe, but still a person ...

And whoever sold you those thousands of dollars worth of products on
how to make money online understood you better than you understand yourself,
because they got you to part with your money in exchange for their solution!

Think of it this way:

We all have a side of ourselves that loves to buy things.

And then we have a side of ourselves that needs to sell things.
Like sell our kids on the idea of cleaning up their rooms.
Or our spouses on buying a new car.
Or ourselves on selling!

And effective selling *always* begins with a picture in your mind
of the person you are selling *to* ...

And the more detailed that picture is, the better the job of selling you'll do.
You'll be able to crawl right inside that person's head and persuade them to buy!

Today!

May I make a suggestion?

Go to your local bookstore and browse through the magazine racks.
Marvel at how many different "audiences" they serve.

Pick one.

Then get online and find a forum where that audience hangs out.

Listen.

See if you can spot a problem that people in that audience share.

Next:

Come back in here. Say you've selected your audience,
visited their hangout, listened to their conversations,
identified a problem they seem to have, and now you'd
like some suggestions on what to do next toward the
accomplishment of your immediate goal of earning
$100 a day in affiliate commissions.

This is a *specific* question that many experienced marketers here
would be much more likely to answer than the one you have asked,
which is so general as to be almost impossible to answer.

I sincerely hope this helps you, Xellero.

Regards, Elizabeth ...

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eric w 15 years ago

What country are you in? If it's the USA or Canada, I can help you starting tomorrow

You don't pay me a dime.

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WishLucky

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Xellero

Hello everyone. I've been into internet marketing for over 2 years now and i didn't make a SINGLE CENT online. I have bought the first 4 pages from clickbank on E-business and E-marketing and NOTHING worked. Mostly rewritten and old/outdated information that i have already learned. I have tried buying domains , do some SEO, write articles, use facebook( fan pages, buy ads ) use Adwords, Adsense tried free traffic , paid traffic CPA and many more.

I have spent over 1000$ on training and software with the hope that one day i could make some money online but it didn't happen. I live in a country where the average income per month is 250$ and i always wished to buy those things that i couldn't afford.

On my journey i learned (above intermediate) Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, Design/Web Design, Web Language( CSS HTML PHP ) , i am an expert with Photoshop and i can make good looking websites fairly easy.

I just want to be an affiliate marketer and i never did 1 single sale. I tried guitar niche, make money niche and fitness niche. Getting on first page on Google is way to hard and time consuming as well as creating my own product.

After more than 2 long years, I feel that i should quit..How you guys started? How did you make your first sale as an affiliate? How did you build your list? Anything that could help me it would be great.

Thank you very much.

It's sound like a biggest bull*hit

2 years in online marketing, spent over $1k, expert in photoshop but got zero (maybe less) income?
I'm noob, I just played with autoblog, fiverr and some reseller services

but I can collect over $500 per month :p. What's wrong with you dude?

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boybogets

15 years ago

You can go to freelancers site you can earn more than affiliate marketing does you can bid for projects. You have a lot of skills man

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15 years ago

Hi:

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I make my first dollar on eBay.

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corsleymaxwell

15 years ago

I'm with Brian... back to basic. I think your consistency was lost.

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Ben_Doyle

15 years ago

I'm new to this IM thing too and have yet to make make money.

BUT.....

I am concentrating on 1 thing at a time. You are trying so many different things, your head is spinning. It sounds like you're not giving yoursef enought time to take try these things out properly.

Do one thing, do it right and i'm sure you will make some money.

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Gary336

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ben_Doyle

I'm new to this IM thing too and have yet to make make money.

BUT.....

I am concentrating on 1 thing at a time. You are trying so many different things, your head is spinning. It sounds like you're not giving yoursef enought time to take try these things out properly.

Do one thing, do it right and i'm sure you will make some money.

I am in the same boat and it is difficult sometimes to avoid buying into every promise made by clickbank product launches, but the key is focus. you are in the Warrior Forums, so really you have all the help and knowledge you could need at your fingertips. Take one of the simple to follow plans laid out by other members in this thread. Concentrate on doing each step, one at a time until completed and do not spend any more money on guides or software until you see a profit. Then do it again.

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Dennis K 15 years ago

First i want to thank you all for your replies and advices. The Photoshop ebook ideea is pretty good and i will definitely will try that. Put up a nice design website and see from there.

Does anyone know a place where i can start doing websites? (plus hosting would be great as i can be an affiliate for my webhosting ) Maybe the client gives me the theme and what he wants and i just go by his rules.

Thanks again.
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EarnBig

15 years ago

Wow, this is a surprising thread.. I'm amazed with your experience you haven't made ANY money online - gob smacked!

If it helps I can assist you.. (a quick fix) I currently need people to find high quality graphics which you may already have (see below). And if you have commercial work like GFX, illustrations and themes, I can help you sell them and find you people who will promote them.. PM me if you like..

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omk

15 years ago

You could try and create your own product. Sometimes people ignore special training or education they have. That type of stuff could be just the ticket to creating a great info product. Just think about what you like to do. Do you have any hobbies? Do some thinking for a day or two. You may come up with a great idea for an info product or a guide that you could sell. Remember, this has to be something that you know how to do. You must have more knowledge or experience in this than the average person. Just 5 or 10 percent more knowledge about something could qualify you to teach others. The offline area, for example is a great place for this. The average person or business owner knows nothing about SEO and SEM.

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EarnBig

15 years ago

Post your profile like mine here:
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Create your own portfolio here:
http://www.earner.net/portfolios/

Look out for projects here:
http://www.earner.net/projects/

To give you an example of the work available - I've just landed a project for $2,500

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celente

15 years ago

you need to focus and just stick to one thing.

Not doing this is one of the main reasons why people perish online.

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Claire Sharp

15 years ago

I think you are not focused on one thing. You did a lot of things. You should focus on one niche. Stop purchasing programs.

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MJWight

15 years ago

Focus on one business plan only

The keys are

Time - spend time on actually doing things to build your business, blogging, article marketing, commenting on blogs, forums
Focus - concentrate only on one plan til you have monetised it - dont go chasing other shiny objects
Action - do the tasks you are instructed to do in your guides etc - if you dont know how - find out - take the initiative and seek out the answer yourself.

A mentor is a good idea but they can only teach you how to fish - you will have to doing the fishing yourself or else you will catch nothing

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g36

15 years ago

Sometimes I find it hard to believe if someone is not making a cent after years. When I first started making money online, I got money in the first month, but it was only $20.

Photoshop ebook idea is great. You can also create html, php, css ebook too if you like. I think you can create your ebook and put it on clickbank and launch it in this forum

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coalminer

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Xellero

Getting on first page on Google is way to hard and time consuming as well as creating my own product.

You need to get out of that mindset... Its not hard or too time consuming...
Even if it was...Work for it man!

Peace
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renangll

15 years ago

I feel for you man. It is very frustrating, especially when everyone else seems to be making money. But the truth is that most people don't make any money online.

If you are willing to go offline to sell an online product, I have a B2B product that can help you generate attractive monthly residual income. Feel free to contact me for details.

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JamesGw

15 years ago

Don't spend money on training or software. Just do things manually and learn the basics. IM really isn't that hard at all. It just takes determination.

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uebomoyi

15 years ago

This sounds just like my story, believe me I know precisely the mindset your in. It use to drive me insane. I was a serial refunder of both good and bad clickbank products. Sure, I tried out some of the methods that were in the "make money programs" but I didn't follow through thoroughly all the way.

I would always do this type of half effort or go 3/4 of the way. I could never seal the deal, and then I woke up. I researched and found out several internet marketers have all had this experience. I'm not even going to say I'm an expert or anything now, but I am going to say that my mindset is fixed.

Before my mindset was "I want money now" and I think that's the problem you have. Perhaps you could research EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) and then that could set you free subconsciously to be in a mindstate of receiving money.

I've taken quite a few programs where I learned that you can subconsciously block out money from ever entering your life which is what I think you've done. It happened to me too and it's the worst, but now I'm free from that mindset.

Also, I'm not promoting this program but if you type into Google, "Wealth Trigger" and visit the website and just read the sales page, you'll discover that there are memory cells in the brain which block you from receiving money unconsciously.

I purchased the program and received a lot of insight, but I don't really think you should purchase it. The sales page has enough essential information.

I hope you make your first sale soon but one valuable thing I learned in this whole internet marketing game is that you can't make the same mistake I did in terms of going into it "wanting" to make money the next day or in a few hours.

That "want" mindset is very detrimental and you will continue wanting unless you figure out what it realistically takes to make money online.

If you'd like a program to follow, I highly suggest you navigate around this warrior forum or make a google search for Gavin Stephenson: What can you do in the next 7 days.--- I'm taking the program now and it's amazingly easy and simple and pro-active. I hope this helps and good luck.

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